 As you've been saying, are we welcome to WPC TV? You are an ambassador, a roving ambassador, ambassador-large for His Majesty the King of Morocco. And you're going to be talking about the state of the world. So let me narrow that down. What do you think the state of the world with President Trump is at the moment? Well, actually, you know, this wrap-up session is a real challenge, as you know, because you really have to say in eight minutes almost what has been said across the conference for three days. It seems to me that among the big trends I was just mentioning, the uncertainties of the world and the extreme speed are the two main challenges for global governance. And I think that Mr. Trump's behavior is not helping. On the contrary, it's making worse. And so global governance has to face these challenges because he's trying to lessen down the role of the federal state within and trying to undo, not trying, he's undoing the trade agreements with his partners, NAFTA and so forth, as you know, released it. And the partners from what we heard or across the conference are extremely worried about this because the impact is huge, not only within America, but as well outside, for Korea, for Canada, for Mexico, it's even worse. So the developing countries are really worried. We don't, there is no visibility. But one assumes that President Trump will not see it that way and will say, well, it's America first, make America great again. How will this policy of his actually affect Americans? Well, I suppose that Americans are really not happy about this state. We can see it from sort of rebellion and the caricature that are really mushrooming across America because beyond the slogan, how can you make America again while you are shrinking it? This is a real paradox. And he's not aware of that because he just wants to have it his own way. When he wants to denounce the treaties, he wants bigger stakes for America and bigger roles for America. But it just shows that he is not accustomed to bargaining and to diplomatic bargaining. This is not business. You cannot have it. The winner doesn't take it all. Well, a final question then. I mean, people talk about the adults in the room, i.e. the generals and minutiae and Tillerson and so on. Is there ability to, I'm not sure if control is the right word, but to influence Donald Trump likely to last or do you foresee things getting worse from the next term or point of view? Well, I think it's very difficult for an outsider. American politics are always extremely delicate because you always have the competition within and between the administrations and between the Pentagon and the State Department and so forth and National Security Council, too many actors. And normally the president has to listen to everybody and then he takes the trade-offs and he makes decisions and he is the one who has the final say. But now he just wants to have the final say on his own, sometimes not even on Twitter, which is really absolutely incredible. How can you in 140 words explain the complexity? And I should say even the over complexity of the world. Do you think he will learn? I have no idea how the things is going to evolve because unfortunately my fear is that there will be a whole change in the whole of the American approach and that even if he disappears from the scene, there are some of the behaviors which might still be with us. And this is very frightening. We have a frightening and challenging environment to help us. Lisa, Ben Salah, thank you very much indeed. Well, thank you.