 Now that you know that fish are dragged out of the ocean and suffocated and gutted, and you pay for that to happen, you've kind of got blood in your hands consciously now, until you decide to change. Virtually, yeah. We're filming for a documentary. What's the documentary? Do you want to be in it? Yeah. Okay. Oh. So... Am I in it now? Yeah. So basically, we're going around, we're asking people like... There you go. Do you eat fish? Yeah. Okay. Oh, I'm not a big fish fan, but yeah. You do eat it. Look, okay, I just want to ask you a question. Like, if I was to pour a shmakko, like a doggy tree, on the end of a hook, all right, and wait for a dog to come and grab that shmakko, and then hook them in the face, and then drag them over there to the ocean and drown them in it, and then gut them with a fishing knife, and then serve them up as dog sushimi, what would you think about that? Would you think I was a bit of a psychopath? Uh, personally, I wouldn't like it, but everyone to their own, you know. As long as it's not really, like... Would you do it? No, I wouldn't personally do it. Okay, what if I paid that person to do that to the dog? Would you think that I was a bit responsible for it? Yeah, if you pay for it, yeah. Okay. So why do you pay people to do that to fish? Oh, yeah, I'm responsible for that, yeah. Just fish tastes good. I do feel bad, but like, it just tastes so good. Do you think, like, because you get a little bit of pleasure out of something, it justifies doing that to the fish? No, not at all. Okay. But I probably still do it. I do feel... You do things that you're morally against a lot? Yeah. Why is that? You know, humans have a weird brain thing. Yeah, they do. Yeah. Do you think, like, a lot of humans are just hypocrites? My sister's vegetarian, actually, because she believes in that. Oh, really? Yeah. My mum is too. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, I'm not a vegetarian. Do you know what, I guess what I am? I guess it's not a vegetarian. Are you a pest? No, wait, a pest can eat fish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I don't believe animals should be used and abused at all. Oh, okay, so any... A vegan. A vegan. Yeah, vegan, yeah. My friend is vegan. Is he or she? She. She literally eats salad every day. I don't eat salad. I eat vegan burgers every day. Wait, is Oreos a vegan? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that, I was like, no way. That's insane. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Invest in Oreos. Yeah, yeah, we will. I guess right now, like, now that you know that fish are dragged out of the ocean and suffocated and gutted, and you pay for that to happen. Yeah. Every time you pay for that to happen, you've kind of got blood on your hands consciously now until you decide to change. Virtually, yeah. Yeah. And you do have a choice right now. No one's forcing you to do that. Oh, definitely. It is my choice. Yeah. And it's a f***ed up choice. Yeah, you can eat plant foods and be a vegan. Plants don't taste like it. What plants are you eating? You gonna be out vegan cheese beyond burgers? Oh, I've heard about the beyond burgers. Vegan ice cream. What do you mean? Plants are amazing. Vegan ice creams are amazing. Do you don't like pasta? Do you eat pasta? Yeah. Do you like pasta? Yeah. I thought plants don't taste good. Pastas vegan? Yeah, but that's a lot of carbs, you know. I'm getting the gut in there. Which one is it? You don't want to be an animal abuser? You want to abuse the animals? You don't like carbs? Which one is it? You know, oh, s***. See, we come up, you know what you should be? Not a vegetarian. Excusatarian. Yeah, that's probably what I am. Excusatarian. I, you know, well, actually, yeah. No, it's not that I make excuses, more that I should do it. Yeah. You don't think about it when you do it, that's all. Yeah. But hopefully now you do. Yeah. I do see those protests where they have the, they display the videos of what happens. Yeah. Behind the scenes, I'm like, s***. Well, have you seen Dominion? Is that a... Dominion? Oh, let me just get your, let me just get you to watch. If you, if you get anything out of this, this whole entire interaction, you should just watch Dominion. This is land animals. This is, they left cameras in farms and, and slaughterhouses all across Australia. So you get to see what you, what you're paying for here. Oh. And you know the dog analogy with the hook? Yeah. You know, you get to see exactly what you pay for here. And then this is sea spiracy. This is to do with sea animals. How do you source the thing? What's the paper? We cut down the entire Amazon for it. No, I, no. Can't you down trees and then replanting them? No, no, no. Trees aren't sentient beings. I thought you were going to go down that truck. No, no, no. No, no, no. I was just... No, no. This is just a pay-and-flip from a local print shop. Anyway, it's a little guide for you. Anyway, everything that you need to not abuse the animals anymore is in here. So if you ever want to make that choice, the power is here, the knowledge. And all you have to do is like, you know, act like you care about animal abuse and not, you know... High or like... Be in contradiction. Like... Don't think about it next time. You're saying against animal cruelty that you pay for it? You know what I mean? S**t. Yeah. Like, you know, I'm far out. Yeah, okay. How old are you, brother? 18. 18. I look young, but... Well, you're old enough to drink, mate. So you're old enough to know right from wrong. S**t. Have a good one. No worries, brother. Thank you. Take care, mate. It's all good. Have a good one. Good chat, mate. They feel pain and suffered. Can you study? Yeah, of course I did. S**t. They do. You can get a vegan burger. You can find vegan food. Pretty easy. Look pretty privileged here. You're not starving and having to hunt or anything like that. So you can make that choice, but when you don't make that choice, you're choosing to abuse animals. Yeah, I guess.