 I missed that. I am very much missing. I am very much missing that occasion there. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Hi, how are you ma'am? I am fine. How are you? Yes, yes. I am fine ma'am. Thank you so much for inviting, you attended this lecture. Yeah, welcome. We are Looks good. Yes, hope so. So now uncle is watching. So now uncle is watching. Yes, you can start, it is 11 am positive picture. day is integrated approach in science and technology for sustainable future. Marking this occasion, we have organized today's online talk and a poster competition among the learners of our university. Now I request our Prof. Jyoti Rakhazi, HENDIC director H.C.B. School of Science and Technology, to give her welcome address. Thank you, Navankur. And a very good morning to all of you. Honorable B.S.A.K. K.H. HENDIC State Open University. Our invited speaker, Prof. Madhu Jyoti Bora from Gauhati University. Our teachers and non-teasing staff of KKH HENDIC State Open University, the learners and officers of KK HENDIC State Open University and research scholars and other invited guests to this occasion. Greetings of the National Science Day 2022. So now I have to give an introductory note why this National Science Day is celebrated. National Science Day is celebrated every year to commemorate the discovery of Raman Effect by Sir C.B. Raman in 1928. On this day of that year, this discovery of Raman Effect was recognized. And in 1930, he got Nobel Prize for this Nobel winning discovery Raman Effect. And he was the first Indian to get Nobel Prize and not only the first Indian but also the first Nobel laureate from Asian countries. And that discovery is not only important only from the context of the content but also very much inspiring because he has completed, he has carried out all the study in an Indian environment and in the infrastructure available in the Indian institute where he has carried out the work. It was in the institute of what we call Indian Association of Conservation of Science, where he carried out his research. So it is so inspiring for the coming generation that in that era where the infrastructure were not very much sufficient but in that condition he put work on such a work which was Nobel Prize winning level. So it is that National Science Day is celebrated every year from our government of India to inspire particularly for the coming generation such that they can discover their potential and such that they can contribute to the immense development of the science and technology and also to let them know what the recent developments are going on in science and technology and also to how to improve life by using science and technology measurements. So this year the team, as Nabankur has already stated that it is integrated approach in science and technology for sustainable development. And it is actually rightly chosen topic and here also we have invited our professor Madhujya Prasad Bharat, from physics department of Devon Gohan University. He has also chosen a very broad topic such that he can touch upon very much very grassroots level innovations which can contribute to sustainable development for a sustainable future. And we are very happy to say that from the Rannachandra Punea School of Science and Technology this is the first time we are organizing national science day. Although Rannachandra Punea School of Science and Technology was established now with the establishment of the Rannachandra Punea School of Science and Technology but it is still not a major school it is still developing and we are happy to again let you know who are not aware about Rannachandra Punea he was a physicist and he was the third high-sensor of Gohan University and according to his name our school is named as Rannachandra Punea School of Science and Technology and as we are teaching science day for the first time so we have chosen a physicist from the same department such that he will enlighten us on this occasion. And on this occasion we have also organized an online poster competition which will be announced in the results also. Now I welcome you all to this auspicious occasion of National Science Day and welcome again. Thank you. Navankur. Thank you madam. Now I request our Honourable High-sensor KK Hendricks of Rannachandra Punea School of Science and Technology to make his inaugural speech. Thank you Dr. Navankur Bhattap. This is a good speaker. Prof. Madhuj Joprakhar Bhora Director of Rannachandra Punea School of Science and Technology Prof. Jyotirakha Gokwe Hondikoi colleagues in KK Hendricks State of University and their participants. Prof. Jyotirakha Gokwe Hondikoi whereas Dr. Navankur Bhattap has already talked about the background of National Science Day. It's a very important day. And on this occasion greetings to all of you and very happy to note that the University of KK Hendricks School of Science and Technology has also organized a poster competition befitting the occasion and hope it will be able to sensitize the participants and spread the message along the society. It has already been briefed about the significance of that day and it has been mentioned the theme of this particular day in this year has been about the integration and integration approach and integrated approach to science and technology and sustainability at the grassroots. The innovations at the grassroots level so being a professor of management to some extent I know about some kinds of developments in IIM Ahmadabad as well as in IIT Guwahati there is this grassroots level innovation network and all these things are very important to spread the benefits to the society the benefits of science and technology we all know that science is a systematic study which is done through methods like observation, experimentation and it studies the entities it studies the the natural environment it studies the physical environment and structure, behavior of our natural as well as physical world it is basically the application application orientation of science for the practical purpose so this science and technology coupled with innovation we can afford to have the multiplier effects in the society and that's where we should all strive for and on this particular day this has been chosen as the theme of innovation innovation and integration somewhere rather we need to establish the convergence somewhere rather we have to establish the synergistic effects those multiplier effects so I hope that today's lecture by Prof. Madhushar Prof. Guwahati will enlighten us about the integration of science, technology, innovation towards sustainability all of the day in our ecosystem for our sustainability and that has been well reflected in the sustainable development goals as well the thing is that how can we leave the maximum benefits from science and technology to channelize the innovations towards the larger benefits towards the societal benefits I hope that this webinar would be able to address all these issues and with this look forward to the lecture of Prof. Madhushar Prof. Guwahati Thank you Dr. Navakur Bhattan Thank you sir I now take the privilege to introduce today's speaker and immediate physicist Prof. Madhushar P. Bhora He is a professor in physics and director IQSE Guwahati University He is also the coordinator of ISRO Regional Academic Centre for Space, GU and Naudeloc officer IUMSU His main area of research is plasma and astrophysics and non-linear dynamics He got prestigious Commonwealth Academic Staff Fellowship from the Commonwealth Commission UK in 2013 and he also got two-time teacher award from Jet Propulsion Lab NASA in the year 2006 and 2008 in his recent assignments We don't further delay May I now request Prof. Bhora to deliver his talk Sir I think you are on mute I am so sorry It has been a practice of muting to avoid disturbances Thank you Dr. Pathak and thank you very much for this kind introduction Of course I am not that deserving I feel very privileged to address this I am the Honourable Vice-Centralor of KK Handing State Open University Director of Hiddendorf School of Prof. Jyotire Khazi Handing who has been my classmate in Juhad Sevi College and also August invited guest and eminent personalities First of all I can share my screen I hope everybody can see this screen Is it okay? Yes sir it is even Okay fine As we have already it has been mentioned that the title of the talk Innovation of the Grassroots So how is it possible So I might a little bit let down to everybody because here of course I am a physicist but I am not going to really explore a kind of technologies which can give price to innovation of grass roots but let us address these How is it possible? Whether the innovations that have been made in the grassroot level are they really I mean they are innovations no doubt but whether they can really are sustainable in the long future because the team of today's Science Day talk Science Day team is national it is determined as an integrated approach in science and technology for a sustainable future Now definitely all these things are very very important If you look at the word of the teams the integrated approach how our approach can be integrated as well as science and technology for a sustainable future and innovation is a part of that because we have to innovate to have a sustainable future but then we also have to know why is it important and how is the opportunity that we have right now before us who can actually lead us to this sustainable future So I am just trying to blend my talk along with the innovations at the grassroot level what kind of innovations that we can do and also I am trying to maintain the sustainable future and why the sustainable future is needed and why it is a burning question of the day and how everything we can integrate together in the present system so that as a country we can go forward with a little introduction I will start by giving you the green realities of today's picture and that is actually the climate change which is actually now all over the media everywhere it is affecting us in a daily life I mean we are seeing the climate change before your eyes earlier 20 years ago it was like a we didn't know about that but now it is a start to reality and we are actually seeing the effect of climate change I will just take you today just to let the mood going I am just going to take you to a time lapse a movie it is actually the ice cover in North Atlantic over the last 35 years around 1984 till around 2019 as you can see this is the ice cover it is a form by real data and I will quick forward the movie 2013 or something like that you can visibly see the ice cover and this was somewhere in 1988 and this is sometimes now in 2013 and you can see that by 2019 or so the ice may be completely gone and that is a stark reality with this green picture I had to bring this picture into my mind because I cannot stay a day without thinking about this climate change and all the effects that it is going to have and why this sustainable future is in our burning equation now with this I am just going to bring you to the topic of today's importance of the national science this is a national science and the association of cultivation science is Calcutta very rudimentary set up and for which he has been awarded a Nobel Prize in 1930 � Fuel �igeదిజనీ. круп�ూచాmentation� some kuin గటవతుపెలావపెలా కిడిగానూట towel. ఇరీ НАVAL LAW wonderful Bangal Bos 他涂�나ముముకరె sous me k完成 fireplanü d stinky నesi- disso T నినచా ియా�感覺 తరాణ౔ం ఆరంతిసౕతనేత్ . వకూత్పాతుంพకాస్స్వకిస్ ! భాాల compliant. నిలాచా時, సస్ది తిగాధరం తంరుత్రం lol చ్రనసి సత్సని. తతరివంవాలమడకూతఫత్తసిఆల్రారూత్ంజలికనా. మా సా సిసాలా and న౰కమాలా సిటక ఇలాలారూతి మ౩వర్ారా. కమాలాలా. పనిమలి దానోమయపోకకలి. నినిగ colabor డిలావకోిను మానారం చియనిందిస్లిలా చానాకంతాటింతియంయరారలలి. కాకిషిలారకింతిం .. మానికిత౿సింగని . మమినినాటాటియాని . and what Raman has observed. So this is considered as a molecule. So this is a molecule, it's representing a molecule. So you can think about in a water molecule like a two hydrogens and one oxygen. I'm not saying that it is a water molecule but it's just a molecule. And when Raman signed a laser onto this molecule actually normally what we observed, normally we observed a scattering. that means the deviation of the light from the molecule, which always happens, and that actually why do we see the blue color of the sky, red color of the sky in the evening and the morning, that's called reddish catering. But what Raman has observed is starting to different, what he has observed that when he actually introduced the shiny laser on the molecule, he observed the frequencies of the light turning to blue and red. So these are now, and in physics we call it anti stocks Raman catering, where actually frequencies are more, that means it's going to the blue and that means if you shine a green laser on the molecule, then you might observe a blue laser coming out of that, and also red laser, which actually stocks Raman catering. So this is the seemingly this is we physics we call it in coherent scattering, and seemingly this is a very like, it looks like a very, very scientific topic, not used to common people, you know, but but the thing is that this is now in the next slide I will show you what is the application of that actually. Raman has discovered this by this original which is actually in the museum of indirect association of cultivation of science, and for which actually he has been awarded the Nobel Prize in 1930. And this is a setup with which he got the Nobel Prize, which is a look like it made up of wooden, and I believe there's a metal, and it's a spectrograph and he took, you know, camera and which took days to develop, not just like today digital. And then he has the, he has the neck and he has the urge to do something new and discover something, which actually gave him the Nobel Prize and we are all proud of this fact. Now coming about to the application, there are a lot many applications but I'm not going to describe all this things I'm just, I'm just say that, you know, in a slide that this is the Raman spectrometer which is now Prof. Handik and other people who are related to chemistry and physics will know that this is almost an indispensable instrument in any physics or chemistry research laboratory. We cannot do without it because we use this Raman effect to detect the molecular structure now which is very, very essential for material research, like a graphene and all kind of things and other kind of which is actually the call of the present day, because we need a renewable technologist in the future. So Raman effect is a now, it's actually diagnostic tool, Raman effect is being used to determine the structure of the molecule, which is essential when development of the new material, whatever you do innovations discovery. It's an essential tool. All of us, all the universities have this spectrometer in some form in our laboratory, we also have, and I believe in Deeprugar as well as in KK Handik is of course is still develop a scientific stream, but all other universities, they have this Raman spectrometer. So, as you can see at discovery, Nobel winning discovery, which is made to this wide spectrum application, which has been actually essential for physics and chemistry research in nowadays. Well, so now, let me, I have divided my talk into two parts in the part one and part two, and part one is introspection, which is actually I'm just going to let you know why and why this year science day team, and how we realize that why this team has been Susan, why this particular team, I mean, like for the, if there are students who are joining, then they will wonder that why particular this team has been Susan, why it is at the forefront. So, coming back to that, I'm trying to say that it's time to ponder now. So, we need to think, we have done lot many years of 100 years of science, 6700 years of science we have done from the industrial area, maybe around 1000 or so. And it's time to think about it, I have taken this picture from a poem, actually by Kuram Nazmi, and I just thought that it's a good sculpture time to ponder. And let us think that whether it has given us any talk to a disaster, has science given us what we wanted. So, we asked the question ourselves about that. Do we have an inclusive development? Inclusivity means development of all, which is of course a sustainable development goal, which we'll talk about a little bit about in the coming slides. So, do we have an inclusive development? I mean, we have to think that we have done so many years of science in India, particularly 75 years of science and technology. We have got lot many IITs now, initially they were five, but now it's tens of IITs, hundreds of NITs, and hundreds of universities, hundreds of technology institutes. So, whether we have an inclusive development, whether the people at all level are developed, whether it is gender, including the women and men, we have to think about it. Has science given us sustainability? Now, sustainability means that is it sustainable? For example, all of us may think that electric vehicles are very good for the future, because they don't pollute. But have we ever thought that is it sustainable? I mean, like, whether the batteries which are used in electric vehicle are charged, I mean, I'm charging the electric battery of my electric vehicle by in my electricity board, which has been powered by a coal-driving plant. So, is it sustainable? Definitely it's not sustainable. That means our technology are contradicting themselves. So, is it, it is not sustainable? I will see in a moment what are the dangers of unsustainability. Are we all happy and satisfied? Now, that's a very philosophical question, but the thing is that it brings to the next slide, we are all, are we all happy? Happiness is a kind of very, very good index to see that whether we are satisfied with the development, definitely we are not happy. Everywhere there's a pollution, air and water, depleting greenery. Okay, I think in India, Assam is the only state which has got an increasing green coverage, north-east, I think. So, that's a good news, but everywhere in the world, the water, air, polluting, depleting greenery, then global warming and climate change is looming large on us, which is actually a drive-in theme of the science thing. Poboti, we are hunger everywhere. Okay, waste management. Now, this is a burning problem everywhere in the cities and the campuses, everywhere. There's a problem in the sea. I mean, these are all increasing energy demands. Every one of us need electricity now for our mobile phones, for our heaters, for our ACs. The number of AC has tripled or maybe quadrupled in recent years because of chip technologies and everybody wants to be under air-conditioned hours. But it has put out a lot of increased demands. Chocking roads and cities, we have, you know, don't have to go out, you just have to go out to the KK Hendrick building and come to the ZS road. You will see that and everywhere this is in Deeprugar. I mean, because I'm mentioning Deeprugar because people from Deeprugar are joining here and you can see everywhere this demand summit, like, you know, depleting natural resources. Natural resources are depleting day by day and the listies and the pandemic, basic health service. Now, we don't have to remind you the basic health services, the crisis of the basic health services in this country as well as the global world in the recent pandemic. We are all in the suffer. In fact, the result of this online meeting is a pandemic, which has been now going on for more than two years in India. Quality education for all. Do we have a quality education for all? I'm happy that the KK Hendrick University is a one step further to bring affordable education to the doorstep of our students. So this is a step toward quality education, but did it, I mean, are we doing enough for that? And the list is still incomplete. There's a whole stop. We can, every one of these, we can have a seminar, a full one week seminar on every topic of this. So we have to think about that. So now, what is sustainable development? Now, I'll be, I'll be failing in my duty if I'm not talk about it because this is the science team. And also this is the goals that we are working toward. In fact, whole of our education system is actually inclined to this. Actually, your new education policy 2020 has been aligned so much with the sustainable development goal that nowadays in universities are instructed to actually put emphasis on that. I mean, one month before, I think we have, we have been asked to attend the sustainable development goal seminars webinar, which has been actually organized by the central government. Okay. And we saw there, some of those who participated, we saw there how universities are gearing up to educate the students to meet the sustainable development goals. It is for sure that, for example, take the case of Gohan University. Now, I cannot, I cannot make anything. It seems that to have a sustainable development goal by myself, what we can do, we can educate these students. That's what we are doing. And that's our business. That's what we want to do. Now, talking about the sustainable development goals, they have been actually set up in the 2015 by UN. Okay, there are 17 goals. If you, if you look at the 17 goals, everybody knows that they have been adopted 17 goals in 2015. And these are the goals which are no poverty. Are we there? Zero hunger, we are not there. Good health, quality education, gender equality, we are not there. We are far from there. Clean water, it's a dream. You know, available clean energy, it's a dream. You know, you can look at the, you can look at the, all these issues, all the, all these things of what we have, what we have seen. Recycling, responsible, citizenship, climate action, life below water, we are not doing anything. Life and life and land, peace and justice, partnership for goals. Now, peace and justice, I mean, people will laugh if we talk about peace and justice at this moment in the very event that Russia is invading Ukraine. All of us, a lot of 124 as many students has stranded there. Now, we talk about all these goals, UN has actually talked about all these goals in 2015 and they thought that 2013 will be the nice year to look forward to fulfillment of these goals. But have we really seen that? I mean, if you look at all the 17 goals, you will see that no poverty, no, we are far away from that. Zero hunger, far away from that. Good health, far away from that. Quality education, yes. Quality education, we are taking the right step. It is still, it is still a far cry, but we are taking a right step through the national education policy equality education. Gender equality, no. Clean water and sanitation, no. Automobile and clean energy, no. This, I mean, decent work and economic growth, it may be, some countries are already maybe, maybe toward that. Industry, innovation, yes, we have that track. Recycle, I mean, reduce inequalities, no. Sustainable cities, no. Responsible consumption and production and this. Looking at my slides, it's a little bit small. No. Climate protection, no. Life below water, no. Life in the land, no. Peace injustice, no. Partnership for the goals. To the extent. So you can see that almost only about 10% of the 17 goals, we are doing something. Otherwise, we are not doing anything. So this is, this is what I represent. Okay. So now the estates are driven by climate change. I know that I'm coming to the second part of the innovation. Little bit talk about that. Disestates are driven by climate change. And as we, let us talk about the green realities of the, of the, of the climate change. Now this is the actually what you can see a thermometer in front of your eyes, which is actually talking about the temperature increase. So if you look at the temperature increase in the pre industrial area, the temperature increase was zero. No, no increase in temperature. It's the climate action tracking data, which I have borrowed and November update on the very recent last barely four months or five months. And this is what we are right now. Our atmosphere has already warmed by 1.2 degree. So this is what is the Paris agreement goal in Paris agreement goal, people have put a deadline, I mean, in limit as 1.5 degree because beyond 1.5 degree, the art is going to see catastrophic climate change. I mean, there will be a lot of different of flood, you know, like, you know, drought and all kinds of things are going to scenes but where we are right. Now the places in targets, right now the government is giving. Now it is actually set to 2.1 degree centigrade increase present places in targets. If we talk about the 2030 targets, if we think about the 2030 we have to achieve that it is been going further 2.4 degree Celsius increase in temperature. And if we policies and action present policies and action if we talk about that across the world, the universe or the government, what are the actions they're taking right into the India. It is actually set to pose for a 2.7 degree centigrade increase. Now we are nowhere near equal. We have come down to 1.5 degree. So this is the seriousness, which is actually now posing question for the existence of the humanities. Now, if you know, think about the global green houses emission on this. I mean, if you just correlate that, then you can see that the pre-perish agreement if we go on the pre-perish agreement, it is going to 2000 by 2100. We are going far above. If we talk about the current policies, it is coming down. If we talk about the pledge, that means what we have recently in COP26, what we have the countries have placed or India has placed by 2017 will be zero net, net zero emission. Now, if we talk about this business, then this is what we are reaching. But this is what ideally we should do. That means it is 100% almost 90% certain that we are going to increase the temperature by more than 2 degrees Celsius by 2100. That is for sure. Because our place is only giving rise to that. These are the projections. Okay, think about where do we stand as a country because that's where the innovation will come. Where do we stand as a country? As a country, we are now the fourth polluter. After China, US, European Union, India stands at the port and then Russia. Earlier, 20 years ago, US was the greatest polluter, but US has already cut the emissions because they have already done a lot of modifications. They are now less reliant on fossil fuels, coal, for example. But China is the biggest polluter, then of course US, then EU, then India is the fourth global polluter. Right now, this is the India's transport emission scenario. So, if I go on to the current policies, we are going, our curve is turning upwards. This is what innovative urban planning. We are shifting from one technology to another. Improve efficiency, the blue color, the slight green electrification and alternative fuels here in 2015. So, our innovations are needed in this area where we have to do. So, I'll talk about the grassroots innovations in a little bit and I will ask the negative question. Whether our grassroots innovations are sustainable, that's what I'm going to ask. So, my talk is like opposite of itself. I mean, I'm talking about the grassroots innovations, but then I'm asking whether these innovations are enough. So, I'll tell you that. Okay, now this is the CO2 emission by India. As you can see that these are stepped graph, that means oil is from here to here, natural gas is from here to here. Coal, we are now actually burning a lot of coal's coal fire plant to produce our electricity. Our electricity are not sustainable. Our electricity development is not sustainable. We are charging our batteries with the coal fired electricity. So, that is not sustainable at all. So, we are now high on to the coal. Now, in COP26, if you remember, if you have attended those, I mean, like if you have seen those meetings, then people are telling that if please cut down the coal, but in India we cannot. Because if we cut down the coal, then our development index will come down to zero. Because we are heavily dependent on coal. Of course, India is doing a lot of things like solar park. I'll talk in a little bit about that. So, these are the things. Now, where is the research needed? Now, this is where we would like our research to be directed. Let me talk about that a little bit. Now, this is ACS largest solar park in Rewa. It is actually sprayed across something like, I think, Okay, I'll tell you about that. Now, this is the problem with the solar panels. Now, why do we need the research? The problem with the solar panels is that efficiency. It is not very efficient. Efficient in the sense that the mechanism might be efficient, but the overall yield per kilowatt hour, you know, that's not efficient. It is only about slightly less than even 23 percent. That means if we talk about the solar plant, which is generating electricity, and the nighttime it cannot generate, then in the daytime also you have to clean it and also the rainy season it cannot generate. If you talk about all these things that efficiency comes down to 23 percent only, which is highly inefficient in a sense. So, this is the latest technology indeed. Now, if you talk about the problem with dirt and cleaning, including grass coverage, okay? And then if you talk about that, then I'll take you back to the solar park in Rewa. This is ACS largest. It is spread over and 4,000 across of land and about 3,000 football fields. You can see from as long as your eye can see, these are all solar panels, okay? These are all solar panels. And if I zoom onto the solar panel, then you can see that this is actually made up of each panel, which have to be cleaned regularly and manually by person. So, we might have a innovation there. But the thing is that one can clean about 20 panels a day and gets around 9,000 per month. So, that's it. And you can count the number of panels. Even in one, even in one such composite panels, I might have around hundreds or 200 panels. And they can clean only about 20 panels like this and you can see the picture and how long it takes about. So, it's already in the news that people are being paid less because of its labor intensity. You'll have to cut the grass. You'll have to clean it because otherwise there'll be dirt. And if there's a dirt, then sunlight will be reflected and efficiency will come down, right? So, these are the cleanings. So, these are the cleanings. Like you can see the picture of this. Now, this is already issues. Rain issues and it's an issue. And what because these are issues. Then, of course, we talk about the spectacular pollution. Now, particular pollution is one of the biggest pollution in every country. And if we talk about the vehicular, then the pollution level, if you can see that the highest pollution is by internal combustion engine, that the petrol engines, then they're a little bit less by the diesel engine because diesel engine actually keep price to carbon dioxide, which can be trapped. But the carbon monoxide is given by internal combustion engine that is gasoline, which actually vehicle runs on petrol. Then, of course, the most efficient vehicle is fuel cell. So, we need our research in this area where we can have a fuel cell vehicles, okay? So, then, of course, we have got a battery technology. The battery technology is actually need to be charging the batteries from renewable source. Now, if I charge my battery with the non-renewable source, I mean, like from a coal fire plant electricity, then, of course, I'm not, if my technologies are not sustainable, green technology for manufacturing batteries, efficient recycling batteries, we don't have any national policy right now to recycle the batteries, okay? So, that we need very much because this is the material inside the batteries are reusable and is also toxic for the environment. So, we need those policies right now. So, we talked about our responsibility now. What are our responsibilities? Now, here, of course, I'm going to a little bit of self-advertise. Because I believe is that something, when you suggest something, it is better to do something on your own. Of course, I'm not doing anything great, but the thing is that there is a change. So, educate, educate and educate. So, we have to educate our people, our educate our students, how to have a climate-responsible behaviour, how to have a sustainable behaviour and how to do something that is sustainable behaviour and how to direct our research to achieve those goals. So, if we talk about our responsibilities, changing our mindset and attitude at fast, not much time late, we have now reuse, reduce and recycle. Now, that's the motto we have to bring to the level of school education. Reuse, reduce and recycle. So, we have to think about how to make sure that our country is doing great on here. We know that every time we see a rag picker, we actually tend to undermine those people who are picking rags, but we should be grateful because they are doing a great job in using recycling material. All of my plastic, all my Coca-Cola, Pepsi bottles are being taken up by those people and they recycle. So, we actually should be grateful to them. We have to do a climate-appropriate behaviour, whatever little that we can do in our day-to-day life. Use bicycle wherever possible. So, here of course I am going to because I have, in the last pandemic actually we have, I have tried to change my behaviour. So, this is my bicycle. I am actually going into the campus using the bicycle whenever it is possible, whenever it doesn't rain, whenever there is not much, I have to take in my backpack. Bicycle-appropriate behaviour. Take a long cloth bag to shop. It's not very difficult. I mean, I can see that my colleagues, my colleagues from Gohat University when I go to nearby shops, nearby area, they never go with a bag. Everybody of us rely on the plastic bags that we have been, five, six plastic bags sometimes. So, it's not very difficult. We have to make a little bit of change. These are actually innovations that we have to do. Take cloth bag to shops. I mean, everybody of us have a car. So, put some couple of bags in the car diki so that whenever I need to buy something, I can use this instead of the plastic bags. I really hate it. I do keep those bags, but I might request to all of you and all my students or if they are listening to use this behaviour because these are climate friendly behaviour. Then of course, segregated garbage at home. Now, segregation of waste is a national policy. You know that Gohat is the biggest municipal city in Assam and every day we have got a garbage collection from our home by the municipality and when I asked them whether the garbage is segregated, they said no. They are all going to dump it at one place and then use manual labour to segregate those things. So, this is what our administration is, it is a national policy that we must segregate waste and then so that it will be easier for recycling. Then of course, you can use retrofit your home and electrical board to smart control for optimum electricity. Here the innovation can happen. In fact, I have this is a picture that I have taken this morning one of the module that I have retrofitted in my university provided quarter inside the electricity panel board I have pitted this this is for optimum use of the control of the electricity setting so that it can automatically switch on at night and morning and automatically switch off. Whenever there is a sunrise, it will be automatically switched off. So we can all, our campuses would be retrofitted with this kind of device which is basically an innovation which is basically should be because there are lots of start-up which are actually selling this unit so that we can buy it on Flipkart and it takes just a few minutes to install those things and I think all the campuses including KK Handik University Gohanthi University, Debrugge University every university should install those sensors and retrofitting in their classrooms so that whenever the class is over the lights and fans and everything is automatically stopped. Similarly, at night sensor by switching lights and fans this is actually a sensor I have put in my home so that my outside lights there are four or five lights LED lights which are automatically switched off by when the sun rises there so this sensor cost about 300 rupees I think 250 or something you can buy it from Amazon and just put it on there in the switch in the daylight and connect your any electrical engineer any electrical electrical person or yourself can do it and this kind of things would be here and I am not calling it innovation but one should try to adopt this behavior so as to save electricity and like that so these are the some advanced with disposal system these are something like a plasma pyrolysis system which is actually plasma pyrolysis generates a huge amount of heat to decompose the waste material which actually gives rise to I mean like normally if we burn it normally we burn normally in our incinerators we burn and all these gases which actually release carbon dioxide carbon monoxide do that at least but this is a very clean plan it doesn't give rise to anything except hydrogen and oxygen so this is what it's a call of the day in the in the medical colleges hospitals municipalities big campuses like ours we should have this kind of system at the system now of course I am coming to the last second part of my talk now which is also have an innovation what we can do and part 2 and I am calling it part 2 and why I am calling it innovation because this is a kind of policy this is a kind of opportunity for all of us which is before us and where things are doable I mean it's not something we are talking just out of that we have to talk and we are talking so it is doable and it is the opportunity before us it is for us to grab this opportunity and transform our educational system so that our students are able to innovate at the grassroots land so that's the purpose of the NEP and let me talk about because I will be failing in my duty if I don't talk about that so grassroots innovations if I talk about now the theme of this topic now what do we understand what do we understand by grassroots innovations we have got certain images before our eyes now whenever the grassroots innovations comes to our mind the names of Uddhav Perali and so comes to our mind because he is an innovator great innovator you know with all kind of things now these are some of the pictures of the grassroots innovation like a tricycle tractor a tractor engine being fitted in the in a tricycle frame look element so you make a tractor out of that it's a low cost okay that's why it's innovation if we talk about the these are something like climbing device that goes on to the and they are climbing on to the coconut tree similarly this is something like a fertilizer you know which are innovation if I go back to this if I ask myself this is sustainable equation whether this is innovation right this is innovation for the people of the village but whether this is sustainable enough it is sustainable because what is the emission level of this vehicle what is the fuel consumption of this vehicle it's still branch on either gasoline or in diesel what is the emission of this vehicle so this is an innovation I have great respect for this it's a low cost innovation but is it sustainable I don't think so there are innovations which we have innovated which people have called so called innovations there are innovations in their right their own right that is true but I don't think they are sustainable they are still using electricity so if I talk about if I talk about a paddy tracer like you know there are innovations which are actually invented by people like Uddhav Thakari Uddhav Thakari he is in I think Upper Assam so I have made once he is a great person so he invented all these things but whether they are sustainable do we do we not need electricity I mean this is my personal view so it is sustainable if I implant I mean if I can run it on sustainable energy sources I can run my vehicle run my paddy tracer run my climber on solar powered energy for example then it is sustainable so most of the innovation that is happening at the grass root level are actually not sustainable that's what is my observation of course there are sustainable innovations no doubt but most of the innovations are not sustainable in the long run because it requires electricity so if we talk about innovation now what is an innovation now innovation if we quickly look at the innovation it actually is interdisciplinary innovation is interdisciplinary innovation cannot be a single discipline that is for sure now if we talk about our NEP now NEP is a policy actually it is aligned with the sustainable development goals equal access to quality and pre primary education equal access to affordable technical and vocational education increase in the number of people with relevant skills for financial success eliminate discriminatory education universal literacy and numeracy so this is what actually this is what actually the NEP is aligning now if we talk about this this is the timeline it is of course everybody knows that I am displaying this school education and right now we are actually in this professional standard for teachers and then of course universal literacy by 25-26 remember that this is one of the goals of the UN 17 goals sustainable development goals because we have to educate unless we educate people cannot realize what is sustainable sustainable development system has to be conducive enough so that people can innovate now people the innovation is not built into our system think about our system right now for example innovation and NEP think about our system right now suppose one of the student goes to take a chemistry honors and then then goes on to do and then go to a teaching or in college or university and then produce a couple of PhDs and ultimately retires okay what innovations have been done nothing nothing in the sense that because we are not including myself we are not actually allowed to think away from our destined path of education if I am studying physics I have to study physics if I am starting astrophysics I have to study astrophysics nothing else our course curricula doesn't allow you to take something that is not in the press sky format in fact when we are in class 12 I think professor will remember that when we are in class 12 we call royal combination PCM physics chemistry mathematics something like still I think I find it in some quarters they are called royal combination PCM physics chemistry mathematics or something like that it's not like this we think that by studying physics chemistry mathematics we are being great but it's not our curricula doesn't allow you to take me take me take me a course on let us say something like entrepreneurship will my will my course honors course in physics take a allow me to take a course on entrepreneurship the course on management course on something like new course no it is not allowed because this we are not we are being programmed to think on a single line and in single line innovation cannot happen okay so let's do the definitions for the sake of completion innovation is an action required to create new ideas process and products which were implemented lead to positive effective changes while invention requires the creation of the new ideas process of production innovation moves one step further it requires implementation of the inventive act that means I don't have to just think about idea I'll have to go to one step further and then implement this idea this is where actually our educational system like universities and colleges life innovation also implies the value system which seeks to derive a positive outcome or from the inventive act that means if I tomorrow invent a weapon of mass destruction let us say I make a very cheap rifle which can kill people and that's definitely the invention but that is not the innovation innovation cannot be used for detrimental for destructive purpose so it is not innovation so innovation has to be a positive outcome now if we talk about how to be innovative then if we these are all of course textbook lines that all educational institutions should constitute startups technology incubation center and current student so on discourse learning the NEP provides ample opportunity for all of this that's why the national education policy is so important to us because it is now having a it is not having a opportunity for us to define our curriculum in such a way that our students is exposed to different ideas at different level and also there's a flexibility so I'll talk about this in a little while but this is where I am telling that the innovation can be brought to the grassroot level because if I don't educate my school children how can they be innovative after they are going to postgraduate level it's not possible it has to be a mindset that's why we said that mindset has to be changed so it has to be imbibed into the childhood in the child like in the school education itself we should implant all this idea and NEP gives us that opportunity right now and we should not waste this opportunity and everybody of ours including KKH, State Open University Rohan University and all the universities of the country should implement there are a couple of challenges of course but whenever there is a new things comes the challenges are bound to be there and right now our system is not planning I don't have to go beyond think about the appointment the process of appointment of college teachers now in Assam does it encourage innovations no if a student come if an applicant comes to me in a college interview that yes I have invented this are you going to appoint me 99% is in your BSE or MSE on your class 12 because we award those marks on the basis of this and we appoint on the basis of that so how our education system will be corrected with that so our education system right now encourage road learning encourage these marks which mean nothing after some time we appoint Eastern Producers on the basis of those marks which actually doesn't mean anything so this is what actually we are doing right now now of course the innovations comes to me don't take me that I am advertising for Sony but let me bring you this popular serial which most of you might have observed or seen the Sharptank India so what they are doing in Sony leave they have actually brought some young entrepreneurs into the college Shark those who have not seen it then if I have innovative idea I will go in front of them present my idea and then they will buy my idea and they will provide me finance of course I am not telling that this is sustainable this is not sustainable in the sense that because I am not concerned to any sustainability while the innovation but my point is that why I am bringing this because many people have seen this Shark Tank India many people have seen because this is the first ever show conducted in Indian soil in America of course they already have this Shark Tank but many people have seen so my point is that what is the take-away slice from this show what we have learned from this show what we have learned is that innovation is inherently interdisciplinary so that means if you observe in certain if you remember certain episodes people who those ideas which have been financed by the sharks in the Shark Tank episode you will observe that almost 99% of these ideas were interdisciplinary couple of 3-4 persons got together and they have invented something and one if one is from engineering background one is from management background one is from engineering background one is from science background one is from maybe humanities background they all actually got together then invented something so what we have learned is that innovation is inherently interdisciplinary that means it has to be interdisciplinary and NMP national education policy 2020 provides as a way to implement that in a great way so my earnest appeal to all the members of the academic community is to that don't take the NMP in a light way go on study in depth what it is offering and then try to implement it in a real sense in our schools and colleges and universities so that innovation becomes grassroots so that's what my meaning actually innovation has to be on the grassroots level I tomorrow cannot expect that once some person in some remote will suddenly come up with an innovation right now innovation is that state right now innovation is that state if you consider 90% of innovation and that says some people have inherent zeal and inherent interest in innovation so they go and find something for their purpose but again we have to think twice that before inventing whether this is sustainable so that has to be built into the and that education will come when this is implanted in the education system at the school level so innovation sustainability and interdisciplinary these three things has to be embedded in our curricula whatever curricula we are going to make tomorrow maybe it's a physics honours maybe it's a chemistry honours maybe it's a zoology botany honours it has to be imbibed to that so our duty is to design that okay so let me talk about so I'm coming close to my end of the talk multi-discipline inter-discipline studies are inbuilt in NEP multiple exits students can exit at different times at different levels sous subject from a basket it is now a students call what she wants to study our duty as academicians is to see that the education is meaningful if the education that I provide cannot improve one's life my education is meaningless the focus is now on the student rather than on the educator so that's what now so I will I give my all the courses and let the students sous from this and make their course and my duty is to see that the course becomes useful that means it is environment friendly it is sustainable and it gives a good life because that is also one of the goal of the sustainable development goal equality life I'll have to elimination of poverty and hunger quality life it's a right to right for everybody so my education has to be geared on to the doubt similarly now it brings to almost the end of my talk now I'm bringing this person because only about a week ago I heard about this person in BBC because I do a morning walk in my university campus and then I listen to the BBC world news and that they talked about the person called says it is is a celebrated author and is a professor at York University in Canada I think Alberta Canada so this person why I brought this person this person has been an inspiration when I when I heard about his life story it is nothing but inspiring it is nothing but magical at 19 he was thrown out by his grandfather out of his house because his father was a drug addict he went away there were three brothers his mother already was nowhere to be found and he was raised by his grandfather and he went to have drugs and he ran for a treat maybe out of the house so he has been homeless so till the age of 32 this person has been homeless lived on streets even went to jail because he deliberately went to jail because he has some injury he has no money to treat so he said if I commit a crime and go to jail then I will be treated I will be given free foods so he went to jail and after that in jail he has been introduced to education as late as 32 and then he went on to study then he became a professor now think that if this is the case in present education system this kind of person will be straight forward thrown out as a wastage because our education system will not allow this kind of person to enter into the education system and have an education at the age of 32 let alone appointing him as a professor at the university so it is purely I mean like inspired so that brings to the end of my talk thank you so much for a patient hearing I don't know where I did the justice to my talk justice to the team but my point is a kind of little bit oxymoron or maybe self-contradicting because I just wanted to tell the innovation at the grassroots must be also sustainable which is not at present thank you so much for your kind presence and attention thank you sir we will have interactions which have after few time before that as I have already mentioned that we also had an poster competition on this e-book so now I will direct from them what should we do announcement of the okay actually my video is not working perhaps may be my video is not working anyway so thank you Madhu Jho I am calling you by name because you are my classmate so it is before going to this poster competition results I must thank Madhu Jho for giving us such an interesting talk it is a long time after I have heard you and after the college days we meet each other not for any type of academy discourse but today it was what we call sensitizing we may be also involved in discussion again in future also particularly as you have taken this innovation point you have related to any bit so I think my colleagues are also benefited and I request all my colleagues who have some queries to take for discussion with Prof. Bara but before that I am going to announce the results of this poster making competition we had an online poster making competition and the specifications have already been circulated and we are so happy that we have got a good number of contributions we have got total of 18 posters and they were from various disciplines actually we also expected that it should come from various disciplines because science is not bound to be only the sphere of the science students because business science should be a way of life and we are so happy that our learners have participated and although I cannot say that all are very high quality and for that actually we are responsible because we have not trained our students directly because we do not have that opportunity also but I hope that this is the beginning and we will be training our students face to face to face this type of competitions in future because I hope I consider this the beginning and now this is time to announce the result so I first announce the and for this the winners they will get certificates and prize money also and for the third prize the winner is Ms. Pionka Dekar enrollment number is 2100 3165 she is from BA third semester and this is her poster and we have already announced the team as the renewable energy resources for sustainable future and congratulations Pionka and I request all of you to give her a big hand is she present Pionka are you present you can give your video appearance if you are present I think she is not present Navankur may be may be congratulations Pionka but still I have 2 points is it is she there so okay so I think we should give her a big hand for this but anyway we have suggested that her name the participants name should be there at the bottom on the right hand side on the poster but she has missed to it missed to put that second prize goes to Ashiyana Azmin Hussein she is from MA education and her enrollment number is 2100 2100 congratulations Ashiyana is Ashiyana present there she is also not present but anyway congratulations and give her a big hand please applause for her performance we will be sending we will give them the certificates and the prize money for the third prize it was 1,000 and for the second prize it is 1,500 and the first prize goes to Bisnu Saikya from MSCIT and his enrollment number is 2171 0004 congratulations Bisnu Saikya is he present so he can give his video appearance if present no anyway congratulations Bisnu and all the other participants and for the first prize there will be 2,000 as prize money and the certificate so I request all the prize winners to meet me after after sometime it may be today or even after that so we will be arranging to give those this certificate and prize money and after this announcement I must thank the judges and I must tell you that we have chosen judges from different fields Professor Jayanta Sarma from Mass Communication has very meticulously evaluated and Dr. Sanjeev who are from School of Humanities he also has taken time for evaluating this and particularly we have asked Sanjeev for looking for artistic feedback because he hello hello hello hello hello my video is not working actually hello so Sanjeev Bora has also contributed and from School of Science and Technology Redeep had worked with the judges and thank you for all the judges for taking this pain for the evaluation and congratulations to all the winners and now I request now and for to continue and I request our colleagues to if they have any queries regarding the talk and to have discussion with our precious person Professor Bora thank you madam now the house is open for discussion and if he has any query may write in the sandbox or you can unmute yourself Navanku, am I audible yes madam thank you sir it has been a wonderful experience to hear from you and we are really grateful that you are here today in our midst so it's not a query actually some ideas are coming to my mind and I have some few thoughts and sir we our university technical is for the common people and those people who are the untribulished group they come to our university and sir when we talk of the sustainable development concerning science am I happening to a work today so can we do something our university is small and still in the growing stage but we can do something small drops droplets of water make the big ocean so I think we can go that way say suppose we have we have a few thousands of learners and from what you have said if you can sensitize them little by little in through some way of competition or some way of talks or we have high adopted village we can take those we can take that targeted group also can we do something like that so that if we start from our university little by little say we take our learners or our village people in what way we can you have told a lot of problems there that we are facing today waste of energy or overuse of energy then the carbon emission is always there and we are very much concerned about future even our sons and daughters they are very much concerned when trees being cut down they are home also they are very much agitated why father is doing this why he is like that so nowadays the children are very much concerned so can we do something he was there so mam mother is also there and you can come to our village sometimes you can come to university sometimes definitely I have visited your university so yeah can we do something like that we can start from something little no sir start video thank you Dr. Fokan see I must congratulate Jyotirekha and the other related officials this itself is that you have organized this self this self is an innovation so innovation need not be always a ground shattering discovery innovation need not be something something very very out of the box and something which is already existing if we can make use of this in a sustainable way and that itself is an innovation I think this is the first time that KK Handy State University is organizing National Science Day or if I am not wrong is it yes this is the first time we are organizing yes okay so so it self is an innovation so it is self is sustainable what you have demonstrated through this through this online poster competition and the national science they talk and all plethora programs that you have already done an innovation your method is sustainable your method is sustainable because it is online I am not burning any fossil fuel I am not travelling in my car to your university to deliver this talk so this is itself is a sustainable this self is an innovation it is nothing sort of innovation that an open university targeting on humanities and arts subject is actually organizing a science day and in an online way that itself is an innovation so innovation comes this way so I think you can make a great contribution why not I mean like you will be more expert I mean like you will be expert than me because now that is the national education policies for everybody so why I am focusing on the national education policies that it is an opportunity for all of us to grab so because here we can make a difference earlier we cannot make a difference we have all the kind of CCAs the syllabus committee committee of syllabus, community of courses but we keep on on the technology to tag we are basically confined to the confined to the that the UCC given that is there on me but now we are free to do something on our own depending on our local needs you can actually have it so for example in Gohani University we have got community colleges in community colleges we have got vocational courses like a free series and all kind of things so I don't think I don't think why KKH open university cannot do it it is very much doable you have already adopted five villages so you can keep on visiting those villages and then try to I don't have any magic when to tell you that okay this is the innovation that one should do but no we have to we have to teach our children to think that's what we are not doing we are not doing in school education remember what the school education we are teaching in school education we are teaching students to memorize we are teaching students to copy from the internet wherever there is a project which to be submitted to the school at least after 8, 9 or 7 level what we do or we guide the student to copy the material from the internet put it as your own matter and present it and no of them gets prize so that's what we are doing that is not innovation we are teaching our students to copy not to innovate so innovation comes that you have to make something something out of the box and something which is not there so we have to teach our students how to think we don't encourage our students to think go by the examination mark why can't we promote the student on the basis of my interaction with the student if I find the student is innovative enough why can't I promote that and that's why I have flashed the picture there is a tristle in my last slide because this person till the age of 32 this person is a homeless and drug addict can you imagine that he just went to jail can you imagine that somebody is appointing him as a student professor do you imagine that your university my university and any university appoint somebody with criminal record no, we will not because our mind state is that if somebody has gone to jail then this person cannot be a good person anyway we need a police verification before appointing somebody so our educational system our appointment system cannot is not stable our environment we have to make it so I think you can make a difference why not any small anything can make a difference you only need a mindset and you have to think differently that's it thank you so much thank you Madhuri sir and at this point I am happy to share with you Professor Nibha that Professor Madhuri Jyopi he is the director of the course committee of our BST I am associated with you he is already associated with our university and so he will keep on coming to the university and sometimes we may have even further discussion so thank you so much for the interaction sure there is no further query there is no further query Rikna, Navangul yes Rikna, Navangul really I am very impressed listening a very thought-provoking lecture on innovations at the grassroots level Professor Madhuri Jyopi sir basically I am from a philosophy background that's why a thinking comes to my mind sir a science a science talks of the physics means what is and it does not deal with what is not seen means it does not talk of anything about metaphysics so sir then how will science talk of the future events like what is to be in 2030 that is my thinking basically the example is like so that the present war between Ukraine and Russia so science as giving means science Russia is using these ballistic missiles and destroying the Ukrainians but science is not talk about or not totally deals about what is to be after the bad effects ballistic missile that launching in Ukraine so sir what is your view in this regard let me remind you that for example if you talk about the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki this is actually the theoretical idea was Einstein's idea and Einstein is the greatest innovator and the greatest thinker of our time and on the planet itself so Albert Einstein have the theoretical idea of that how a mass could be converted to a refugee and then this has been put to use in the Manhattan project in the US and then it has been in the Hiroshima and Nagasaki or boom to the nuclear besides now the question is that why did science allow such a heinous crime to be committed first of all the first and foremost priority of a scientist is the inquisitiveness science try to explore the unknowns for example I am an astrophysicist I do plaza physics I do astrophysics, I do study stars now you know why I am studying stars I mean it's not giving me anything I make it to utilize something that they do it in daily need but the thing is that it is something called inquisitiveness which is inherent to the human brain and it's what drives the mankind so the human being is driving I mean the inquisitiveness is driving the mankind so I can say that the nuclear technology which has been used to destroy human is being used also to power the power plant nuclear power plant so that's a spin-off in the nuclear research so it is the people it is the politicians who decide how it to use it science doesn't distinguish between these two in fact every weapons of mass destruction is the invention of science but the point is that science is not asking you to use science doesn't give you the license science only says that it can be done so it is for us the humans to decide we should use in the good for people or it is for the bad so that is for us to decide so as you are telling that we are as a science how can we talk about the future because we cannot see the future if I go into the metaphysics realm so what I understand is that the science is a logical stream that means I always predict my predictions on the basis of so all this climate change all the temperature change all these are logical these are not something that I like that's why I am talking it is always based on the calculation that have been done using science model that prehistoric the temperature is like this then it will go to this level or go to this level or go to that level depending on what we do so it is always supported by logic so that's why it is always based on logic but science cannot predict the mind science cannot predict the mind one month before we didn't know that Russia would invade Ukraine it was not certain but some quarters people have already analysing that they will say they would security invade Ukraine so if you ask on that level science cannot predict that future simply because it is not based on logic human minds do not work on logic human minds work on I mean like you know not on logic but emotions we function on emotions we love somebody not because this person is beautiful not because the person is attractive we love somebody because this is the way my mind asks me to do so anything that is not logic cannot be controlled by science so if tomorrow whether somebody will attack us or not that science cannot control because it is not based on logic there is no logic why Russia has invaded Ukraine so I don't know where I have answered your question my point is that if there is a logic and science can definitely predict and also it is not the duty of science to dictate terms and conditions where to use it where not to use it so we science have invented nuclear technology it can be used for a destructive purpose as well as it can be used for a constructive purpose some countries are using for a destructive purpose some countries are using for a constructive purpose it is as simple as that but we have to educate people to get it used in the formative way not in the deconstructive way I don't know where I have answered your question limited knowledge this is what I can see thank you sir now I request my colleague Dr.Untara Mahantabhurva to offer the formal photo thanks good morning to all present in the program it's my privilege to offer the photo thanks and acknowledge the contribution of those who worked hard to make the event successful hi Untara Mahantabhurva on behalf of the School of Science and Technology of the University extend my sincere thanks to our Honourable Vice-Chancellor Professor Nipendra Narayan-Sarmasar for his support and guidance to make the event possible I extend my gratitude to our resource person Professor Madhu Jopi Borak for accepting our invitation to give the opportunity to hear his thoughts your thoughts have enlightened our minds and shown a new path you gave deep insight into the topic and revealed some interesting facts I would like to offer my sincere thanks the authority of giving all supports to conduct the program I would also like to thank our Director Professor Jyoti Rekha Ji Handic Madam for her encouragement and giving the opportunity to organize the event next I would like to thank all the participants, research scholars faculty members officers and non-teaching staff who are present in this forum I would like to thank our learners who participated in the online poster making competition and helped to make the program a grand success next I sincerely thank to all the judges of this competition for sparing their valuable time and dedication made it possible for us to reward the learners for their creative efforts last but not the least I would like to thank technical staff for giving us this platform where we could hold this talk once again I thank one and all wholeheartedly thank you thank you so much thank you thank you so I think we can leave right yes ma'am can I end yes you can ma'am