 case. It's Peter Rosenberg and Chris Carlin. How are you, man? Good. How you guys doing? Pretty good. Let's start out real quick with what was, I guess, the trending topic out of Thursday's game, which was you and your quarterback showing some, being demonstrative, let's say, on the sideline. I'll just say this. When you took the job, did you realize that every sort of moment like that on a New York sideline is a bigger deal than anywhere else? Yeah, I think I had a decent idea, but obviously you learn a lot as you go through the steps of this job. And in the moment, like, how quickly do you realize, oh wait, we're kind of yelling in front of everybody. I'm gonna be hearing about this for probably a week or so. Yeah, especially since we weren't even yelling at each other. That's the worst part, is we were actually both upset about the same thing and it was something that happened outside of what he did. Yeah, Adam, when you look at Sam now in a game like that, where do you put him in terms of his development? I know you've talked about him improving and the things that we don't necessarily see, but where do you put him in terms of his process of becoming a star NFL quarterback? Well, he's made huge strides as the season's gone on this last, the first half that he played in this last game was really, really good. You know, he had a one bad error there at the end, which was an interception, which I know he wishes he could have back. You know, the second half, we were a little too up and down. You know, we were a little bit all over the place, but for the majority of the season, I mean, he keeps doing something within that game that he hadn't done the week before. So that when we go back and watch these things and we talked through them just kind of the way that he's thinking through stuff has really been something that gets everybody excited. Okay, so when it's the things that we don't see, give us an example of the things that we don't see where he has really gotten better. Well, just controlling the line of streamage checking the place versus certain blitzes like this last game he got to some stuff that he had never done before. You know, he saw it come in, you know, probably a couple of these third down conversions that we had in this last game were because of him changing the play at the line of streamage because he saw the defense and he he got us out of a bad play and into a good one. And to me, those that's a that's a big step considering before we weren't quite getting to that point where it was more coming back to the sideline and man, I wish I went to this now now he's doing it, which is that's exciting for me because now it's your calm plays and you're trying to give him the right stuff. But if it's not good, he's getting to something different. Is that kind of more a case of your system that he's getting used to versus what he had last year? And how much does that factor into when you look at a guy's development? Here's a guy that in two years has worked with two different systems offensively? Yeah, I mean, really, if you think about it three and three years, you count if you count. Yeah, so I mean, he's had a lot of lot of different he's had a lot of change. And I do think with the three weeks he had to spend away from here wasn't ideal for him. I felt like we were really kind of heading in the right direction. And then he had to go away and was kind of we had to press pause for a second to kind of get him back in his rhythm. And now I feel like every week he's coming in, he's coming in with ideas, he's coming in with thoughts before we even meet where he's telling me, Hey, I'm thinking this isn't this if we get these looks or if you call something on third down, I'm going to get to this or you know, this is my other option. And he's really, he's telling me a lot of times of what he's thinking before we even get there. He Sam came to our party on Friday and was great, took pictures of people hung out. He seems to be such an unusually mature and sweet kid. Does he really stand sort of stand out amongst other young players you've known him this Lee? I would say yes, I don't I don't think I've been around a guy his age before that says mature as he is. And he like just how much he cares about other people where he wants them to have success. And he always puts himself last. And that's there's something to be said about him. In that aspect, I mean, he really does care about he wants all his guys to have success. And he's not he never talks about his own stats. He never talks about anything with himself. It's always about somebody else. Adam Gates with this is Adam Gates report here on the Michael K show. You said the other day there is going to be a point where he is going to be a really good player. How far away is that? You know, it's hard to put a timetable on. I just if I just keep seeing the strides that that you need to make to become a really good player. And, you know, some weeks it's it's three or four things in one game. And then once some weeks it'll be one, you know, but I just feel like if we keep trending in the direction that we're trending, which is I just don't have I have no doubt that that's going to happen because he works so hard. He puts so much time in when he's outside of this building. And it's just another, you know, off season and training camp. I think he's just going to be so much better than he was in your one of this system. Leveon Bell fresh out of the bowling alley back onto the field and looked more like the Leveon Bell that we expect to see. What was what was different for Leveon in Baltimore? No, that was good, by the way. Thank you. That was that was good. I mean, come on, we gotta make it slick. It's a 251 for God's sake. I'm just impressed under the radar there. I just, you know, I felt like the offense line did a great job. One getting those guys covered up. It's something that we talk about all the time where that's where it starts. We always talk about let's get our guys to the second level. And Leveon, that's been on what we've been trying to do all year is just get them to the safeties. Like see what happens if we can get him to run through an arm tackle at the linebacker spot, give him the second level. That happened a little bit more. I think he did a really good job of taking what they gave us to where instead of trying to make this spectacular play, he knew a four and five yards for us right now is really good because we needed to stay ahead of the sticks. That was a big point of emphasis for us going in this game. We wanted to occupy the ball. We wanted to keep their offense off the field. That was something that we did in the first half. We didn't quite do in the second. There are people who speculate that Leveon does not have a long-term future with the Jets. How important do you think Leveon could be to this team moving forward? I love what he brings to the table. I really think that we haven't maximized all his talents quite yet. I mean, it's just we got kind of caught in a weird situation at the beginning of the season where we were counting on him to really just kind of grind out the game and occupy the ball and keep his head at the sticks. Teams started loading up the box. I think he took a lot of shots early in the season, which kind of probably didn't feel great for him and probably slowed him down a little bit. But we've had some games where you see him juiced up and he's feeling good and he's able to hit those holes and we open those things up and we get him involved in the passing game. We've had some good games with him. We just got to get to the point where I'm calling it well enough to where he can be consistent and we can get him into rhythm early in the end of the game. Adam, it felt like when you look at his history of Pittsburgh and the type of running back he has, he's always been a very patient guy and then kind of explodes and it felt like the other night was kind of the first time this year that we saw him in that running style. Is that fair to say, had he been running the ball or approaching the run game a little bit differently, maybe not as patient just to try to fit in before this? I think it's just trying to figure out because we've had some moving pieces up front. I think he's just been trying to figure out who he's working with and how it all kind of ties together. I think that's the positive thing about him practicing the way he does is he's trying to get in that rhythm. You know he's trying to figure out like all right how they're going to block this, how's this going to look and you're trying to get the right look on scout team. It's always it's always a little more difficult when you're playing a 3-4 team and they played a little different than you know a 4-3 team and kind of how the guys you know are they too gap and you know you're trying to get those looks in practice you don't always get always get that but I think he's getting a better feel especially here towards the end of the season of how these guys are doing things and and he's either adjusting or he's kind of tailoring his running style to kind of what how our guys are blocking some stuff. Last one on him have you ever bowled a 251? No. Not even close. Not even close. Now is he that talented a dude that wouldn't surprise you that he was actually that good a bowler? That wouldn't surprise me. So speaking of unbelievable talent one thing Sam talked about was the frustration last week that things started good against the Ravens but Lamar Jackson's in a place right now where Sam basically said you know every time they got off the field you guys got off the field without points he almost knew he'd be coming back in the game with in a bigger hole because that's how good that Ravens offense is right now. How good is it up close and what can you do to really slow them down? Yeah it's tough it's it's I mean when you watch him play play live I think the only comparison I can even think of is probably like my second year in the league I saw Michael Vick play and watching him throw on the ball the way he could throw the ball in the way that he can make guys miss and just kind of how scary his speed was up it up close when you saw him turn the corner and guys were just not that they're struggling to catch him and he looks like he's not even running you know I think what Mars is the game looks slow for him right now you know he's playing fast and then just everybody else is just at a different speed you know they're a gear behind and you know it's tough you got to find a way to try to find an incompletion try to find a zero or negative play there and you know try to get off the field to where and then on offense you gotta when that happens you got a you got to counter it and you got to find a way to put the ball in the end zone. Yeah Sam said the same thing you basically just have to keep scoring I mean the one thing I see coach and I'm curious because you're a quarterback guru is that Vic had a bigger arm right he had an absolute monster arm but Lamar at this point appears to have a little bit more discipline with how he uses his arm and and where he puts the football would you say that's true because I don't Michael Vic never had a completion percentage like the kind Lamar Jackson has right now it's hard for me to really compare in that aspect of it I mean I was I was 23 24 years old when I saw him play live so I mean it seems like an eternity ago I would I mean Lamar looks looks good you know throwing the ball especially down the field I mean he's he's hitting those shots I mean when everybody's trying to stop the run and then he's getting those opportunities where he's throwing a post or a corner out whatever it is I mean he's hitting those things you know whether it's tight coverage the guy's wide open he's just not missing those big plays so we're we've actually been having some fun today talking quarterbacks with how good Breeze is and his numbers now we've been comparing Breeze and Rogers first of all just coaching against Drew Breeze you obviously coached Peyton Manning had tremendous success with him where do you put Drew Breeze in the all-time great conversation at this point I mean he's up there it's hard to it's hard to like number of those guys I just know when you're around them they're it's impressive to be around I mean 29 and 30 is ridiculous I mean just to just even think about how he's talking about how he wish you would have completed that one one pass that he missed I mean it's just it's unbelievable to even to be close to that is there a stat that you as a quarterback guy would have put above all else for people like us who are you know we don't know it as intimately as you do but we talk about stats all the time is there one that you put above all else when you're evaluating a quarterback I mean I always look at third down and red zone those are the two those are two areas where if a guy's is successful quarterback on third down and he's throwing touchdown passes in the red zone or his team's getting in the end zone you know in the red zone those are those are two areas that you can't really mask on you know with all the analytic stuff you know you either get to conversion or you don't a lot of people are calling us up right now and basically saying ah you can't put Drew Breeze in this we were comparing Breeze and Rogers and a lot of people calling up going you can't compare Breeze and Rogers because Breeze plays in the dome how much now obviously you coach Peyton when he was in Denver but most of his success came in Indianapolis how much of a factor is that or is that just something us yo-yo fans talk about I think every every situation is different I mean I think three years I was with Peyton like those were you know two of those three years were were ridiculous numbers for him and he played majority of games outside so I mean his best season ever was when he was in Denver you know statistically so I mean it's it's it's hard to say hey how big of a difference does that make I mean it's I think it is impressive that when you're in Green Bay and you have the kind of numbers that farve and Aaron Rogers have had it's you know they played in plenty of bad weather games considering that they got to go to Chicago you know obviously they got to play indoors at Minnesota and in Detroit but I mean they're playing a lot of outdoor games in bad weather so you were talking about the 2013 5400 yard 55 touchdown 10 pick season for Peyton yeah that must have been fun yeah I would it's crazy to even think back of we were at a point where I think he was even something like 25 touchdowns no picks or something just something crazy Adam Gates with us Pittsburgh this week Steelers defense what have you seen as far as what you have to go after an attack here in you know preparing for a game like this their defense is playing really well right now I'm sure you guys watch the game the other night and you can see the problems they give obviously they they're at their two outside pass rushes are really good I mean you know TG Watts playing them but it's as good as anybody in the NFL right now I think their interior guys up front are very tough tough match up for everybody and we know that's where really everything's gonna start start and stop is how we handle their front and then you know on the back end making Fitzpatrick's you know he's benefiting for with how those guys up front are playing how the corners playing he's been able to be real aggressive and you know having as many interceptions as he has this year is you know that's going to be something that we got to account for is it their system that has allowed him to have that kind of success this quickly I don't know it's probably a little bit of the system but that's who he is I mean that was the whole reason why he was drafted was because the ball just finds him yeah you know it just I mean it was always like that in practice it was I remember like the first three weeks he was there was like once a day is some ball would get tipped up and he'd be there picking it off hey coach good luck this weekend and I'm not going to talk to you so Merry Christmas thanks for everything this year we appreciate it all right guys appreciate it thanks coach thank you