 Welcome to the ITU studio in Geneva where we're here for the future network cards symposium and I'm here with Russ Shields who is from Rode DB. Russ, welcome to the studio. Thank you. Now let me start off by talking a little bit about something that's being talked about very much here at the future network cards symposium is intelligent transport. What's the biggest topic of conversations you think intelligent transport at the moment? Well there's actually many but if I had to pick one it is how are we going to get to automated vehicles? When, how, what are the limitations, how is it going to evolve? Many many different pieces and number of which were covered in the symposium today. And what's the status of the standards of development for intelligent transport systems? What are the key challenges to be overcome in this arena? Challenges actually are there too many standards and that we're trying very hard to harmonize the standards because they've been built by different parts and different industries and are being brought together in this combination of automotive and communications so we have a major effort to try to actually harmonize, eliminate, assimilate different standards that are trying to address the same thing. And what about the future of mobility? What are your predictions for the future of mobility? How are regulators thinking about it, industry players thinking about it and what should we expect as consumers? Expect almost anything as a consumer because we don't know yet. We are learning and it's a continual evolution and one of the interesting things for out of the last few weeks people have suddenly come to be aware that a shared vehicle may not be safe and that one of the new efforts in WHO was here this morning as part of the discussion will be how do we sanitize a shared vehicle between uses because the evolution of what people are now suddenly being aware of where they were not says we have another challenge and another need which will get solved over time but it's another piece of a complicated puzzle that goes into the mobility services piece. So we're talking about the passengers on buses, trains, taxis, etc being exposed to the coronavirus. Yeah and even more the whole aim that we're trying to do with the mobility as a service is really at some point get to a automated electric vehicle that will be it will take you where you want in place of the taxi or your private car and we're gonna have to make people comfortable that when they get in it that whatever is left from the previous person is not there and that that extends as we're doing looking at shuttles and stuff we're going to have a population that is much more aware. And that wouldn't have been the topic of conversation a year ago if we'd been talking about this then would it? No it was it was honestly had not been thought about by the ITS world and now it is a major subject of consideration because it's now becomes an important thing and we've already started to see in some countries reduction in uses of taxis and Uber and other things because people are worried about what was in that vehicle before them so. Well talking about what was in in a certain vehicle or what was what was happening before this symposium has been going now for a number of years now I know that you've been a regular attendee here I wanted to ask you what's the value of this symposium to you and and the wider intelligent transport community? Well this is our 15th year and has always been one of the really top forums for bringing together senior level people and the ability for ITU with UNECE together to bring together the regulators and the industry people for a tremendous dialogue about what each side needs to do working with the other and I think there's no other forum that is similar. Well thank you very much for taking the time and energy and effort and I'm sure it wasn't easy to get here but thanks very much indeed for joining us and and hopefully we'll catch up with you again soon. Thank you. Thank you.