 Really really don't like to call people either dumb or stupid or ignorant or evil or wicked. I Really don't I try to avoid it as much as possible But guys there are actually absolutely sometimes where Even as harsh as they are those descriptions are warranted So I'm looking at some stuff on YouTube just pops up and I see a lady who I actually admire She's a hero. I think that her her her doctrine could probably be better. I believe she's a Catholic so that goes without saying but She is without question a hero a heroine When it comes to the fight for babies being alive some of you all may have seen the video She has an organization called the students for life. She's the president of it, and I absolutely love her I love her defense. I love her going back and forth and just presenting the arguments correctly She doesn't from a from a from a Bible base or faith-based approach as well, but also just a logical understanding a scientific understanding and so she gets a lot of pushback People target her but she gives it just as good as anyone can can give it And so I want to just give it play a clip that I was that I saw of her on CNN and then I want to deal with this guy who just I've had issues with this guy before and You know you let it kind of go but in this case I really think that he needs to be called out So let's just play a little bit of her of her name is Kristen Hawk Hawkins I'm sorry and her dialogue on CNN then we'll jump into it So now predicting that a child poverty that the rate of that is going to go up many of these states that are now Baining abortion do not have paid family leave. They do not have the extended Medicaid for after giving you know Women who give birth So if you could explain a little bit more about how you're going to fight for these Disadvantaged women who wanted to get an abortion. They couldn't because of the state they live in and their children who are growing up in Poverty, it's a fact the abortion industry and what we hear on campus is all the time That tells women that abortion is a simple solution to all their problems when the fact we believe in helping those who suffer Not eliminating somebody who may potentially suffer and I think you help suffering you help alleviate the suffering You don't say well We're gonna solve that by just prescribing abortion because abortion doesn't end Poverty abortion doesn't take her out of that abusive relationship that she finds herself in well first of all I hear what you're saying, but the reality is I Think it's nearly half a million kids end up in foster care And I don't know how many of those were kids that you know, the mother wanted to abort and came from a disadvantaged home But the reality is you say say that you're working on this But so many kids still end up abused neglect in the broken foster care system And the reality is the governments in these states do not have the resources on the books Such as paid family leave such as the extended Medicaid to help with these situations Talk about those policies But the question is is the solution to children in foster care to kill them No one would argue in our society that because a child's in foster care Therefore their life is unworthy of living and that's the point that we're making in the pro-life now So her point is as you heard her say this are we saying that the solution to a Child having a troubled life going to foster care things like that is the solution to kill them Well, you would think that if you put it like that if you phrase it like that that a lot of people say well No, but nowadays the answer for some of them is yeah. Yeah, the answer is yeah Let's kill them because then he being here is Infringing on my lifestyle. It's making it harder for me That's what's happening and as she said earlier abortion does not end or cure The things that the family or the parent in many cases the mother is going to go through poverty being abused and things like that Or even the case of rape and incest and granted It's a horrible thing But you are but but the the pain of it does not go away after there is an abortion As a matter of fact all it does is compound the hurt the tragedy and again We're talking about someone who is just as valuable Who had nothing to do with the situation in circumstances? Surrounding as a matter of fact, let's just be honest a lot of us if our situation Situations circumstances determine whether we should be Aborted or allowed to live many of us if we're using some of these standards that they're using many of us would not have been here now Thankfully for me. I was born before Roe v. Way was enacted, but there are some folks up that came along after and Because their parents had since or for whatever reason they weren't aborted It's only people again, and I know it's kind of kind of silly to say but it's also true It's only people who who who who not been aborted who are for abortion That's a hundred percent across the board So and I know if we were just so if there was some way to poll or to ask these babies These babies if they would like to live regardless of irrespective of what's gonna happen to them in the future They would like a shot. They would like a chance, but you got some people who are just absolutely wicked And that's just what it is. It is what it is guys Some things you just cannot sugarcoat it it'd be one thing if somebody was for abortion But they would they were for abortion out of ages and there are some people out there who Who are for abortion or okay with other people having it because they haven't really thought it through You know a lot of us kind of be a lot of us are kind of absent minded about it Not sure what the procedure is we're thinking that maybe is just a clump of sales But again, I'm a clump of sales you what you really are is a clump of dirt You're a clump of dirt that had life breathed into you by God the life that's in you is by God But after that your dirt you came from dirt you and you're going back to dirt And so forget the fact that your clump of sales know your clump of dirt put together about about a dollar's worth of dirt And then God has given you life allowed life to flow in you and you think that yours is so superior That the life of this unborn child doesn't matter Doesn't matter just for this it's amazing who you partner with you people are literally partnering with the devil and I get it I get it. You don't think so, but when you start listening to it I'm gonna go to some of the some of their arguments They have really some of the dumbest arguments and this person is supposed to be a doctor has his doctorate but clearly Getting your doctorate or getting your masters or teaching that make you smart You have been able to read some books and to copy what you've written and given answers back by writing them out and some sort of thesis or dissertation But it doesn't know if I the fact that you might be stupid. I think this guy again hard harsh words But yeah, you're gonna see why I say that he is two things Cuz I wrestled back and forth was he was he just wicked and evil or was he stupid or was he dumb? We're gonna find out that it's both. We're gonna find out that it's both But listen to one of his one of his arguments here Because we talk about that a child is alive and there are these different stages in life the zygote when the sperm and the egg meet and then a zygote is formed and Then now the zygote is alive and in the next stage in their life is fetus the next stage is infant then toddler and so forth These so being a fetus is not a bad thing being a fetus is not a negative term It's just a part of the the human development part of the stage at one point in time. We were teenagers at one point in time We were we were pre-teen and so forth. We were we were toddlers. We were infants. We were This is not even that complicated, but I want you all to listen to his his His his line of questioning his reasoning And I'm gonna start with that with one of the dumbest things that he can say and then we'll get to his Understanding of the Bible because he calls himself a Christian, which we're gonna find out clearly that that's wrong Science Focus magazine dealt with this question on the fundamental level of what life is what science defines Life as and the question was posed directly to the researchers. Do you consider? sperm to be life and yeah You caught that right he said do you consider sperm to be life? So now we're questioning life the life of a human being and Asking if we value all life. Well, then what about sperm? Answer is yes. It's alive. Just as any other cell in the male body Since it can have life outside of the body sperm is independent single-cell organism But differing in local motion and lifestyle. It has a different property there, but it is considered life now I always wonder People that believe that life begins at conception and if you're utilizing a scientific basis for that Doesn't the sperm count as well or not? No, the sperm does not count because the sperm is part of the father As I said before it's parts versus whole and sperm and egg unite a unique genetic Creation has come into being with its own genetic code The sperm has the DNA of the father because it's part of the father The egg has the DNA of the mother because it's part of the mother now. Do you believe that? Life and we're talking about the function of the soul. You're crazy now. Let's let's kind of deal with this She dealt with this but there's more to it The makeup of an actual human being what we consider to be life There are a lot of things that are living that have in other words They're there are living cells in them That is not what we mean by life at all And the fact of the matter is a sperm is not independent Sperm outside the body cannot cannot live does not serve does not survive Okay, so secondly it has the same DNA of the father of the male But when joined with the egg it forms a brand new and distinct DNA Unlike the fathers unlike the mothers as well as this sperm does not develop It's not like one day sperm the next thing is something else It's not like the the little chart of the man that male in evolution. That's not what so it's a silly argument It's a it it really is a stupid argument and makes me wonder Okay, is that indicative of his understanding and his mentality or is he trying to be just deceptive to be funny? I get being kind of a journalist though He's not a journalist But I get trying to be a journalist and asking questions that maybe you wouldn't ask or think of but maybe somebody else would I get that but he's a proponent of this and then he makes his thing Let me let me back this up just a little bit because I want you to hear what he calls himself Life and we're talking about the function of the soul you're a Christian woman. I'm a Christian man No, you're not That part is abundantly clear. He is not a Christian and when you hear some of his biblical understanding It's going to be pretty evident. I believe that we have a soul. You believe that with me Correct, I believe that okay. Do you believe that a soul is inside of that body at conception or not? I do believe that We know that 95% of biologists say that at the moment of fertilization when sperm and egg unite that a distinct Human being has has become into existence and there's no other point In a moment's pregnancy where you can point to to say well That would be a moment when the human becomes a human with a vow now her point is Because he said he's trying to figure out or question probe the issue Since you have to have a soul in you at what point does does the baby having a soul in them? What at what point does the baby get a soul in them? No, we find out later that he didn't believe that a baby has a sight that a an unborn baby has a soul He doesn't believe that her point is nothing changes Biologically about that about that baby where the bit when the baby is inside or outside of the uterus Nothing has changed about that baby. There's nothing different now has the baby develop Well, sure and the baby's going to continue develop even into adulthood. I've got a 24-year-old who's still developing I've got a 16-year-old who's still developing I've got a grandson out there who they would call a club of sales on the outside of the womb running around I don't know if you all can hear him, but it's hard to get it's hard to get my little grandson to be quiet He doesn't pay attention, but he's still life. That's what we're talking about and when did he develop his soul? When was this all given to him again? Biologically speaking, which is what a lot of these folks are gonna listen to nothing is different about him biologically Then then on the inside. Yeah, he's developed his eyes are actually I think his eyes are exactly same I'm not sure on that part But his motor functions his motor skills things about his body's understanding well that increases as a matter of fact When you go from 30 to 40 40 to 50 50 to 60 your understanding increases So your love of cognizant cognition develops as well, of course that sometimes you it seems like it might be retreating But that's a whole other story, but the point is There is nothing to determine that we can determine when a person has a soul That is not science can't figure that out science can't measure that and he if you pulled him and asked him When does the baby this infant this this this fetus? When does he or she get a soul? So Africa dabbler as soon as he comes out of the out of out of the birth canal then God grants him a soul Is is that what we're saying? This is why I think you're either stupid or you're or you're just a evil and again It might be both because after a point in time of playing the devil's advocate. You're really just a devil After playing his advocate what you really are is you're letting us know that you're really on his team That's what's happening here The line of questioning is is ridiculous listen to this line of question that he brings up If you believe life begins at conception when a child is born, why are they zero days zero years old? That's actually in Asia. That's not true. I know that's not true in Asia They believe life begins at conception, but in the United States of America that life begins at conception Why is it that no one in the pro-life movement? You all have people that represent you in Congress Why have they not proposed and passed legislation to that that's his argument now Well, since you guys believe that life begins it begins at conception. Why not just start measuring people's age from that time? really serious and This is where you just I Don't want to say shut up, but shut up. That's just it's just it's just not even smart to even ask a question That's not even smart to even ask that question We're we measure someone by their birthday. We know we know Exactly when a person's born now it is sometimes difficult to tell exactly when a person has conceived That is not always an exact science But what is exact is when the person is born? Either through a vaginal birth through a c-section So that part we can measure. It's a and it has nothing to do with the argument here now Because he is so far to the left and because he has even not only sold out God He calls himself a Christian, but so fine You're a sellout to the to the Christian community, but God will deal with you on that part But you want he wants to be so super pro-black and if you ever just watch a little bit of what he's talking about You sold out the black community too. You are Really one of the worst kinds of black people if being black is so important and you espouse that black lives matter Well, the fact of the matter is that more blacks are killed at the hand of a surgeon then at the end of a gun You have a problem with guns, of course I take it back you don't have a problem with guns killing black people if the person that shot the other black person Was a black person themselves. You have a problem with it being a white cop. That's the problem that you have But you don't have a problem with another black person because another black person either a knife fight Any sort of murder you don't have a problem with that at least not as vocally and You certainly don't think that black lives matter if if they die at the hands of a surgeon Now you don't have a problem with that at all, but he is going to say something And I think his arguments gets dumber and dumber. I want to you know what? Let me say it in a way that he can understand it stupider and stupider He makes this argument now on the face of the argument. It looks like huh that make You might have a pointer listen to this argument that he makes about abortion rates and again since he's a since he's a card Caring member of the Democratic Party since he loves him some Joe Biden bring back Barat bring back Clinton Which Clinton any Clinton he loves a Democratic Party. So listen to this argument. Would you be shocked if I told you? That the sharpest decline of abortion rates in America only take place under Democratic presidents and policies Would you be shocked hear that no, I've heard that rumor now Just as what he's saying apparently there's something When Democrats are present that causes abortions to go down We're gonna look at the chart that he's talking about and we're gonna examine this You know a little closer to see if he's just being disingenuous or he's just not thinking it could be both Before I think I think that's very interesting because you good you give me the facts Okay from 1981 to 1980 now we're talking about Reagan abortion rates hovered around 23 to 24 per 1,000 women aged between 15 to 44 Ending at 24 per 1,000 in 1989 under George H. W. Bush 1989 to 1993 abortion rates failed from 23 To from 24 to 23 per every 1,000 women So you saw a very very small decline now I want you guys to kind of pay attention what he's saying and even see how would you argue? How would you counter this argument because there is some truth to what he's saying? I'm gonna show you why it's absolutely Diabolical in his in his approach or it could be stupid. It could just be he just doesn't know any better Bill Clinton comes in 1993 to 2001 it failed from that 23 number under George H. W. Bush And it went to 16.2 per 1,000 women Then George W. Bush gets in it remains at 16 It does not decrease under him whatsoever and then President Barack Obama steps in 2009 to do 2017 it then plunge from 15 to 11.6 Under his presidency So it sounds like to me if you and this is all collective data This is that policy would you say is responsible for that doctor? I'm gonna give it all I'm gonna give all of them now Again, there's some truth to the abortion rates declining Gonna go over that in a second But he says it's true since it's true. He wants to give the reason rationale for why The Democrats can take responsibility For these rates declining to you But I want to make sure people know what to check me out at go to cdc.gov and check out the data now The policies that are connected cause an effect relationship Is the fact that Democrats actually fund programs that are not only provide significant education to women who are seeking? Information about their sexual reproductive rights and abilities, but now Regina Lowry, you are absolutely correct You are absolutely correct and we're gonna go over those factors in just in just a second now He's not gonna want to listen these factors, but I and I would love someone say hey, hey Rashad Brother Richie Dr. Richie. There's this guy that is just really lambasting you and maybe you ought to talk to him I would love to because his little I see I love the arrogance on his part because I can do this I remember I said that see in prison We have this happen all the time And so the goal is to not just have a friendly conversation The goal is to have a conversation and make you wish you never talked to me ever that way when you see me You shut up and so I would love to have it's not gonna happen It's not gonna happen because he's gonna step into an area that he knows nothing about that is about the Bible and God But again Regina, we're gonna cover that in just a second We're gonna go cover all the issues all the factors that go into what he's talking about and how what he's talking about really isn't true It also provides opportunity for women who would like to bring it to fruition fully to have a full birth They have some dynamics in our social safety nets in order to do so. I'm a foster child I was a foster kid. Okay, the foster program history. Well, maybe we should have killed you then Listen to you guys ration now because you were fostered kid. We should have killed you I You were a drain and a strain on society and the foster program the state had to cover that Now obviously I don't mean that but you mean that for other people and so listen what he's saying he is saying It's a again, it's a dumb argument. It's a dumb argument. You're saying that the reason for abortion rates decreasing Was because of these programs. So let's see if I get just get you straight. Dr. Ritchie Some woman is pregnant She's contemplating abortion, but she thinks in her head. Hmm because in my state they have good foster programs I'm going to go ahead and carry this baby full term But because there is no it may be another state or another under another presidency They don't have good foster programs. They don't have good programs to take care of this child If I would I give up for adoption or what have you since they don't have these good programs I'll go ahead and kill them That literally left your mouth dr. Ritchie Wherever you got your doctor from I wish they would revoke it that that you You at some point in time you have to just stop trying to make points for your side and just say okay I'm wrong. They're wrong and just leave it at that At some point time now, you don't have to do that intellectually Logically on earth, but when you come before God You're not gonna get a chance to retract those statements You're gonna own them and you're gonna have to give account for that and you'll deal with that and you'll suffer as Accordingly I wish you wouldn't I wish you would repent and lean on to God's way rather than you on it But you know what? Listen, you do what you want to do But I want to pull up this chart and I want you all to see what I see. I'm gonna walk with the same chart by the way What she says about she goes on say about CDC and this is true the chart that he's the step that he's talking about is These reporting to the CDC the problem with this is that Not all abortions are reported to the CDC for example, California. The most popular state is not required They don't they don't their abortions aren't always report to the CDC They're not required to and since they're not required to how often do you think they will? So we don't have a true true measurement We don't know again, California is not reporting their other states They don't have to either but there's something even more to it than that look at this chart This is a chart of of abort the abortion rates in America. Now. Obviously it peaked up under it grew the fastest Under a Democratic President from 73 to 80, right? Well, I take it back not not totally from Democratic president But for some of the time if it was from a Democratic president, right? It's just kicking it just took off I'm not gonna give them. I'm not gonna harp on them too much because of that because hey It's just now starting abortions a new thing. It's new toy and folk start taking advantage of it So I won't hold the Democratic Democratic presidents over and who presided over the the Our country at that time. I won't hold them accountable for that. But let's go back to this I want y'all to see something though So we're looking at it and we see That from and I need better glasses that from roughly 81 So throughout the 80s we have all Republican presidents to the end of the 80s We have a little bit of a decline a decrease around 92 93 94 spikes back up to a high 95 96 and then we do start seeing some slight decreases and We see and we do see a greater decrease from around the 2006 on down a little bit so He is correct now a couple of things they need to be taken into account and This is what you were getting to Regina Everyone doesn't go in to solve their their problem with this pregnancy by abortion nowadays today They have these what these IUDs these implants and so forth to help to help prevent pregnancy. We've got those and so What also he should have talked about is the pregnancy rate has decreased in America Hmm. So excuse me So if the amount of pregnancies if they have decreased Then guess what also is going to decrease the abortion rate You've got the morning after pill I remember when are you 486 was a was a huge thing and and banning it was was on the table, but you've got That as an issue, but something else though and This is now. Maybe he just didn't know that or consider that maybe But this is what he should have considered. Let's go back and look at the chart again when you look at these rates of decreases and We see this this this dramatic decrease beginning to take place 9495 Can anyone tell us what's happening 9495? Y'all do remember a guy named Newt Gingrich and The contract with America you remember Republicans coming into power into the house The long time that that the Republicans dominated and control the house Name the president that has ever enacted a bill Name one name one president that has ever enacted a bill Can anybody can we think of one president in the history of America that has ever enacted a bill a law? None not one you know why because that's not what presidents do Presidents can sign a bill in the law, but they don't bring a bill they don't bring a bill before Congress a bill Nowadays is going to initiate either in the house or Senate so Who held Congress is what you ought to look at Mr. Ritchie That's what and he didn't do that Because if he would have done that he was all the greatest decreases in abortion rates happen under Republican Congress Republican Congress control Now I'm not giving any of them credit. That's not what I'm saying But if you're gonna make this this the specious argument this goofy argument and give Democrats credit well, then you got to give the Republican Congress and Senate credit as well, don't you? But he won't do that. He won't do that. Why because again, not only is he not as bright as he lets on to be And I'm being insulting that's fine, but this this is because of what he's advocating Babies being destroyed and not just it's not like they're given that it's not like they're just giving the babies an oxygen mask and Putting them to sleep with some gas. No or or inserting something in them and cause them to go to sleep and never wake. No an abortion for a baby is a violent act That you wouldn't even want a puppy to go through we're talking about limbs Literally being pulled out just yanked. Yeah, I don't be too graphic But it's a horrific way to die For a full grown man Let alone for an infant who screams when the probe goes inside and touches the baby the baby literally runs The baby feels it One of the things that she was talking about and we may get to it where she talks about even the Cleveland Clinic Where the doctors have to put the babies under some sort of special sort of anesthesiology and Aesthetic so the baby didn't feel pain when they're performing surgery on the infant the the fetus for spina bifida things like that and so The baby certainly does have feeling and then what you do is like a partial birth abortion You put the baby in breach, which is also dangerous to the mother and Then bring the baby halfway and not even halfway out the majority out Make an incision at the base of the skull Puncture it and insert a tube and suck the contents of the brain out and then collapse the brain skull collapse the skull Yeah, yeah, that's why I call you evil. That's why I call you wicked It's not that you don't know this is that you don't care about it. That's what makes you evil and wicked That's it sir now. I Want to go to his biblical Explanations for this this is where it gets so This is where it gets really really weird and bad if part of it is laughable because It's like my friend brother Can I call you brother Richie brother? You know not not Christian brother because that you're not But you know, I'm assuming you might be from a black mother and a black father. I'm assuming that But you know folks identify all kind of ways so maybe your parents don't identify as your parents anymore I don't know but I do know this Your attempt Your attempt to explain the Bible is absolutely hilarious, but it's also sick sinister diabolic Whatever you want to call it, but also stupid. Oh It's it's it's that also now. I want you all to hear his explanation He is going to talk about abortion in the Bible now. I will say this Kristen is not a Bible scholar. She and then she was not I don't think she was prepared for this How he put it is it's kind of shocking. I know it took her if through or for a loop because he actually even started laughing But him working his way through the scriptures and he does so arrogantly he does so in a way that yeah, you didn't know this, huh? You Christian, but let's listen. What does the Bible say about abortions? So does the Bible say about abortion the Bible talks a lot about killing and murder there really wasn't like Planned Parenthood clinics back Sure, they had abortions. So what does the Bible say about abortions? Okay. Now first of all, they did not have abortions back then Abortion is the intentional act of terminating a pregnancy That ability was not around at that time. Okay, so that's let's just let's just be clear About murder What does the Bible say about abortions? Do you know I know the Bible says about murder and that is exactly what? Abortion is sir. It's the bring it to your attention violent taking of an innocent human life. That is in fact murder. Okay not according to the Bible and now Elliot said yeah, his his smugness really makes him unlikable, but listen, I like his smugness I like his smugness and his arrogance because he's the kind of person first Well, he's got a person to get beat up. Let's just call it what it is. He's a kind of person I know I know and it's someone would punch him. I'm not advocating for that That's not what I'm saying. But I like his smugness because that way when you put it back on him What does this muggers do? It'll make him run and shut up but Listen Let's continue since he says he knows what the Bible says and we're gonna go and look at the scriptures I'm gonna give it to you straight. Okay. I'm gonna give to you and I expect you to read it When you get a moment to open up your book Yeah, yeah, I said that I expect you I expect you to go ahead go and read it when you get a moment to go ahead and open up your book Because you haven't been doing it. You haven't been reading your Bible. You you don't know anything about this Bible. You horrible Mean evil and I'm pretty sure he's calling her a white Christian I'm pretty sure he's calling her all kind of white devil names, right? You know that's in his heart you know that is in his heart because if you just heard some of the other things that he said you know, that's what he's thinking and I Think he's probably think you're white Christians probably make me sick. I'm not now. This is just me I'm adding a little a little color to it, but You know what just him I would love you know what I'll try to make the effort But I don't think he comes on to other people's channels He rather you come on to there and cuz what he's doing what he does When she's talking to him if you go back and watch, you know what athletes I'm gonna go ahead and provide a link to this this happened some some months ago I'll provide a link and she complains about him muting Her microphone when she's trying to talk and so that's the kind of guy you don't really want to go to his channel Out of over 600 laws Given by Moses the mosaic laws Not one dealt with abortion not one it does deal with Miss carriage Well, wait a second. You literally just said there's abortion in the Bible But now you said oh, I should just say you say it didn't deal with it. You're saying abortion was there Okay, I get what you're saying. Let's see if this is true though You're saying it was there, but the Bible didn't care or didn't deal with it. All right I got I got you doctor. I got your doctor I but doesn't say wait a minute. I'm gonna ask you a question child and Her fruit depart drive and hurt a woman with a child went as a result of that according to the Bible Okay, and I'm going to give it to you straight. Okay, and I expect you to read it when you get a moment to open up your book out of over 600 laws Given by Moses the mosaic laws Not one dealt with abortion not one it does deal with Miss carriage. So let me give you another example If a woman has a Miss carriage as a now, let's know Y'all listen to it. You might even want to get your Bible out now I'm gonna put it on the screen and we're gonna see that this guy is both stupid and wicked We're gonna see that not he's ignorant and you know what? I'm sorry I'm sorry. I can see mom. I can see my mama right now getting upset with me or my grandmother getting upset with me They're both in heaven, but I can see them getting upset me for calling somebody stupid. I shouldn't call them stupid Now I'm thinking it. I'm thinking it, but I'm not I'm sorry. I apologize. I'll just call him ignorant Let's just let it Sunday. I'll be I'll be a little bit more godly Also, you're just ignorant, but we're gonna pull the Bible out. We're gonna look at what he's what he's quoted and It's not that he's ignorant when you see this. It's not that he's ignorant. It's that he's being wicked. He's being willful result of a fight According to the mosaic law according to the Moses law the man who caused the death of the fetus Can not be charged with murder But can be fined a civil penalty you don't believe me go to exodus 22 Exodus 21 22. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I repented of my I just repented of my repenting. I Just repented of my repenting and okay. All right. Yeah Sorry mama, sorry grandma. Yeah, this guy's stupid. I'm sorry Repentant of my repenting of calling him stupid because he is he just is it says clearly if men strive and hurt a woman with a child They pregnant woman so that her fruit depart from her is a miscarriage and No additional mischievous follows That person the mosaic law finished. We I thought you liked the Bible I thought you liked the Bible. Okay. Okay We're gonna see if you like the Bible clearly you didn't read it clearly you not kill I thought you like the Bible ma'am. I'm reading the Bible. I thought you liked it. You don't like the Bible now Keep going. No, thank you. I appreciate that. So here's what the scripture says if a man's strive and hurt a woman with a child and Her fruit depart from her He shall surely be punished according to the woman's husband He shall pay as the judge determines a civil payment now The Bible orders death If the Bible orders death for murders, that's what the Bible says the Bible says if you murder somebody They have to die. That's your death penalty stand in the scripture. Now y'all catch what he's saying If someone causes a miscarriage Then it's a civil fine But now if a person murders another human being of another adult or a person alive out of the womb Then then that didn't murder is prescribed. That's what he's saying That's what the Bible says about murder, but the Bible doesn't say wait a minute. I'm gonna ask you a question That's not are you pro death penalty then sir ma'am? I'm gonna ask you a question You want to see what you're trying to do and I will answer that question in a moment I'm gonna ask you a direct question if the abortion of a fetus is murder and It's based on your biblical standard of your faith Why is it that your Bible contradicts you and says if a man fights a woman Christian wouldn't be also your Bible sir ma'am if a man I don't believe life begins that conception I have no problem. So he doesn't believe life begins a conception. That's okay So just to make sure we got that out there. He didn't believe that life begins at conception. Let's keep going I'm here. So if a if a man, ma'am, I'm gonna ask you the question Come on now. You're gonna get this train of truth Life begins exception. You cannot choose to believe What I choose to believe now What he just said is true. I'm gonna believe what I choose to believe I'm gonna I'm gonna believe what I choose. Thank you for being honest. No matter what thank you I'm gonna show you why he's being intentionally deceptive Scripture it tells you that if a man Fights a woman kills the baby inside of her or the fetus whatever you choose to call it The Bible says it is not murder because the penalty for murder in scripture is death If the fetus is miscarry has a miscarriage If the woman has a miscarriage and the fetus departs from the woman according to the Bible There's a civil penalty did the by now monkey moves Just hold up hold tight brother hold tight because we're getting ready to go to the Bible And I just want y'all to see how ignorant and how deceptive he is So we're gonna address his issue and it's just it's just laughable. We'll get it wrong. I Got a verse for him to you believe in the Bible Are you going to answer the question or not ma'am? Yeah, until I think I don't actually believe in mosaic a lot like I eat shellfish And I actually don't believe when I read the scripture madam And I knew well before this in about new years ago that the scripture does not treat a fetus as a Human being all right now. He's arrogantly speaking. He's he's read this a long time ago He knew a long he knew a long time ago that the scriptures do not treat a fetus like a human matter of fact Let me write this down. I've got too many points But I want to get the main point and this issue that he said a fetus in the Bible is not I want to write this is not treated like a human being. Let me continue. I already knew that you didn't I did Thou shall not kill that's actually what abortion is right and according to the scripture The fetus that is killed sir because intent is different there It says okay now Let's get to it. Let's get to it. I want to address two points I want to address the last point that a fetus in the Bible is not treated like the human being We'll dress address that last in a glaring an obvious example of how wrong he is how ignorant he is But let's deal with the passage that he brought up he brought up exes 21 22 He says that if two men are fighting and let's say they strike a woman accidentally And she has a miscarriage then the the family is taken care of civilly But there is no there's no punishment of murder. Let's go to the passage and actually read what it says Dr. Richie, I hope you're paying attention I know you don't own a Bible or if you do you don't open it But I want you to listen look at this one this on a computer So you don't even have you don't you have to turn the pages You don't have to find exes and actually manually turn it You can just watch the smart Christian channel and look at us for a few your passes that you brought up Let's look at it. It says in Exodus 21 22 you all y'all see this It says when a man strives together and hit a pregnant woman when men do so so that her child comes out By the way, the word right here is the Hebrew word yelling Which means a child a baby a little child comes out, but there is look what it says no harm When the child comes out and there is no harm The one who hit her shall surely be fine as the woman's husband shall impose on him So the first part is if the baby comes out the baby is born, but the baby is not harmed Not a miscarriage where there's a death, but the baby is born. There is no harm But let's see what happens if the baby is harmed. There's a death Let's let's keep reading in the very same passage He says as the woman's husband shall impose on him and he shall pay as the judge determines But somebody look at hey, let's do it like they do it in the charismatic church. Somebody say but Look at your neighbor and say but but verse 23 if there is harm Uh-oh Then you shall pay life for life eye for eye tooth for tooth hand for hand burn for burn wound for wound stripe for stripe Dr. Richie you just lied to us You lied to us You lied to us because clearly if you to open your Bible and you would saw what you did You would have saw that the first portion you talked about was not a baby dying You call that abortion you call five. Let's call it what you called it. You call it abortion in Chapter 22 I mean verse 22 the baby doesn't die. That's not abortion in verse 23 If the baby dies you call it abortion. What's the penalty murder? What's the penalty doc Richie it's murder It's murder So either you are either you are that ignorant to go from 22 to verse 23 or You're that wicked and didn't want anyone to see verse 23 because typically when a person and it's just for you guys When someone throws out a scripture and acting as though they they know it Their hope is that you don't read along with them That's the hope which is why we always put on the screen And so you end up taking their word for and they act as though like he did in a smug arrogant fashion that he knows exactly what He's talking about want you to know that so that that way you won't Dare to doubt that what he is reading from is accurate. That's what he's doing But he clearly either intentionally or unintentionally Misled us or at least misled her and anyone else is listening. How many folks were listening to this guy thought yeah That's true and probably went somewhere and said the Bible doesn't even say so Because he goes on to say that the Bible does not treat a Fetus, which is the an early stage of human development does not treat a fetus Like a human being y'all can I beg to differ can I beg to differ and can I beg to do so with the Bible? Let's go to the New Testament. Let's go to Luke chapter 1. You all remember this story in Luke chapter 1 This is when Mary goes to see her cousin Elizabeth Look at verse 41 and when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary the baby the fetus I guess which is called the the brothels That's called the baby the infant inside of her leaped in her womb And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit and she exclaimed with a loud cry Blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of your womb? So it seems to me now matter Let's keep reading. I'm sorry and why is this granted to me that the mother of my Lord to come to me for behold When the sound of your greeting came to my ears the baby in my womb leaped for joy do dead or unalive fetuses clumps of matter leap for joy like that doc Richie Rashad Ray Ray Is that what you say and I wrote it down a fetus is not treated like a human in the Bible Well, who does the leaping for joy who leaps for joy human beings do Human beings do inside the and and it's called a baby It's called an infant See you are an evil person. I pray that you repent and that you do turn But in the meantime should you never do so? When you let folks know that you are an evil diabolical ignoramus Yes, you are and I say so not to hurt your feelings but to say whether folks from your Foolishness I heard I saw somebody in the in the chats called a tomfoolery. Yeah, that's what it's as well It's tomfoolery You are how the commercial go you are a walking travesty a sham and a mockery you are a travesty Mockery that's what you are a Travis shamockery now It gets better It gets better His ignorance of the Bible his evil knows no bounds and so let's hear the last thing and we'll go ahead and close on this I want to play something else that he says You know the Adam and Eve story, right? Yeah, I'm not sure you do but go ahead. Okay. Well, you can test me In there and we're going to test you we are absolutely going to test you story God first created Adam Adam was a biological entity Adam had the biology of life But Adam was not living until something happened to Adam. What happened to Adam that made him living According to the Bible now y'all make sure y'all follow this guy because he's a doctor the good the good revan Dr. Ritchie is trying to tell us about Adam and his life Adam was not alive. No according to the Bible. He did not become a living soul until what I mean These arguments are getting kind of ridiculous sir. Like why what does the scripture say? It speaks to how God breathed life into Adam this soul. That's Adam did not become a living Soul He wasn't walking this earth dead Okay, Adam did not become a living soul until God breathed into Adam the breath of life But Adam was already in existence as a biological entity. You can argue that life Present father. It's distinctly different. Adam was created by them. I'm gonna finish my point needed as an embryo I'm gonna finish my point according to scripture Adam did not become a living soul until God breathed into him the breath of life and thus Adam became Well, that tells me that the living soul dynamic was connected to a respiratory function That Adam did not become a living soul until Adam had a respiratory function. Okay, fine Let's go with that name the infant name the fetus that doesn't has a respiratory function to it name one Name the fetus that does not have because you do realize doc, mr. Richie that every fetus needs oxygen. What respiratory function is attached to that? Well, the mother's breathing The mother's breathing in now. Also, it's a silly argument because was Adam a baby was Adam an infant I don't I don't think so and ever since Adam had life in him Ever since Adam had life in him according to the same book in Genesis that he and his wife would produce After his own kind and so if Adam was alive and Eve was alive And they produced a baby that baby even in them is alive And oh by the way that baby's respiratory function is though while it's in them is Functioning off of the mother Their respiratory system is still developing and they're still breathing. There's there's oxygen still going to that baby So what's your point, sir other than the fact that you are not that smart other You I Almost want to say that you ought to subscribe to the smart Christian channel. I think I think you ought to See being a smart Christian is not that we know it all it's not that It's not that we are so smart No, it's that we know where we're wrong and we're humble enough to admit so you sir like you said earlier You're gonna believe what you want to believe True words have never been spoken You are a sham Put upon the black race You know back in the day when there was when there was overt racism Now we can we're not gonna discuss how much racism exists by the way There will always be racism guys, but back in the day where it was just rough being black I don't know. I don't know how old this this this fella is. I really don't I don't know if he's my age younger. I'm not sure But when there's overt racism One of those racist folks would have patted you on your head and said you were credit to your race Because you're doing what that what a lot of them would have wanted you to do and that is to make sure that as many blacks never saw the light of day Now it's not just blacks that are being aborted whites are to Hispanics are to there's a reason why the birth rate amongst black people in America is flat We're not having babies Why? Well, could it be that almost or somewhere around 20 million black babies have been killed now you take your slave trade matter of fact do this Take the slave trade and you take the holocaust put them together and that's still an equate to how many black folks have been Been aborted and then you also take the number of blacks that were lynched in the south Still an equate to it You don't care about black people you do the bidding of people who don't like black people Now I don't I'm not gonna get too political Though I see why people do get political about this because enacting policies to get rid of this is what what's needed and Unfortunately, there is no policy to eliminate stupidity ignorance willful ignorance wickedness I Take that back. I'm wrong. I'm wrong. There is a policy Now it's not enacted by the White House or Congress, but there's a policy in place to deal with sinful people like yourself People who believe it's okay to shed innocent blood. That's by the way with what the what the word the Hebrew word for it means is shedding innocent blood and Then the very passage that you went to to refute believers Nullified your point as a matter of fact proved our point and then you lied with the stats You are not a good person If you were a white person you wouldn't be a good person since you seem to love white folks who want to see black babies die You wouldn't be a good person Margaret Singer you and her deserve a plot a burial plot beside each other you do Since you are doing her bidding which is to eliminate as many black people as possible And to make this assumption that you and even the lady the people at CNN do Because when you say that we talk about these babies and a lot of them are black and they are going to be in foster care What are you saying? Are you saying that all black that black folks are sending their kids to fight and what? What do you think about the black the black community? Not a lot Not a lot and so guys I would love I'll reach out to him I will I will reach out to him and see if I can get him to come on I will do so. I know the response I think I think I'll get a response that I get from some of the other folks that I've reached out to and asked him to come on But it ain't gonna happen, which is fine, which is fine I'll let him continue to carry the water for the young Turks channel. I think it's what it is young Turks And you know enrich himself and do his whatever it is. He's doing But at some point in time mr. Richie doc you are going to give an account not for your ignorance But for your wickedness amen