 I'm gonna call the shabuigan common council committee of the whole meeting of Wednesday October 12th 2011 to order Will we let's do the roll call, please? Here Here Excuse Present let's all stand for the pleasure To the flight of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands Indivisible with liberty and justice for all before we get into tonight's agenda president Thank you It is with decidedly mixed emotions that this evening I announced my resignation as all the person effective this Friday the good news is it's because it's Goes along with my chosen career path having graduated with my master's degree in public administration This past December. I've been offered and I've accepted the position as village administrator clerk treasurer in Edgar, Wisconsin and to begin my duties there on Monday Bitter sweet moment though because obviously there's still work left to be done in my hometown the town that born and raised in and Love and To a large degree feel Sad that we're not leaving work undone here, but No, I thank you all and it's been a pleasure working with you all and All I ask is that you keep moving the city forward. Thank you Thank you, Harry. Good luck in your new position Next on the agenda. We have number four approval of the minutes from 9 21 2011 Second have a motion and a second to approve the minutes from 9 21 11 any discussion all in favor Post chair votes I Next we have a public forum and agenda items anybody wish to speak at the public forum tonight anybody wish to speak and For a third time anybody wish to speak Nobody for public forum Chairman's comments. I have none Next we have items for discussion and possible recommendation of the common counsel Agenda item number seven discussion and possible action regarding the city of Sheboygan's 20-year comprehensive plan update presentation by Vanda wall and associate consultants I'm gonna call on Chad Pelle check to introduce our guests Thank you chairman This is the result this presentation tonight The first one is the result of a nine-month planning process on the city's comprehensive plan update the last time the city developed a comprehensive plan was in 2000 and that plan a lot of the recommendations brought forth and that plan have actually Successfully been completed. So it was looked at as moving forward we need to kind of have a 20-year vision on our Smart growth initiatives land use process moving forward and at that stage We had applied for a grant through the Wisconsin Department of Administration For seventy thousand dollars was awarded and we're matching that with some city funds And we did a process to bring on a consultant You guys had approved the contract with Vanda well and associates who has done a lot of planning work for the city over the past 20 years So what they're going to do tonight is go through a presentation. This is we're treating this as a last kind of public participation Part of the plan under the state statute were required to have so many public participation events And after this there's they're going to go through a detailed process of how the city will be approving an ordinance and a resolution and Getting this thing as an official document guiding the future for the 20 next 20 years So we have Jolina Presti and Jessica, and I can't say your last name There you go With us they they're actually the two planners that worked on this plan we had developed a steering committee that was a lot of local residents and Particular business leaders and moved and had them at the table for a number of events to help us Guide the development of the plan. So I had provided to all the older persons a Executive summary of the plan I the documents too large for me to email But you can go to their website and look at it in more detail going forward Well, so what I'm going to do is let them go through the plan hit the high points And then if there's specific questions afterwards, we'll be happy to discuss them So without further ado, I'll turn it over to Jolina to start with Good evening everyone Well, thank you again for having us here tonight as Chad said the purpose of this meeting is to provide a Opportunity for public input and to present the plan to the council. So you're not seeing it for the first time When it comes before you as we go through the formal adoption process It is Chad mentioned also we have our company has a long history in Sheboygan We actually wrote the your current plan that was adopted in in 2000 And we've also been working on redevelopment efforts here in the city since the 1990s So we're really excited to continue our work here and and really move things forward. Oh I'm sorry. Go back Jolina. You were so on top of things. Here we go. Okay So tonight I'm just going to briefly cover the purpose of the plan The process that we went through to develop it Jolina is going to talk about some key recommendations And then I'll describe the process that we're going to go through to adopt it So what is a comprehensive plan? In 2000 the state passed legislation that said that every community in Wisconsin Had to have a comprehensive plan that included nine required elements And they cover everything from land use economic development and transportation Really runs the gamut of all the topics that a city needs to address The city as I mentioned the city adopted its current plan in 2000 And the state requires communities to update their plan every ten years. So this counts as that update process and obviously every about every ten years is is a good opportunity to Look at the recommendations that were in the plan make sure they still reflect the direction that the community wants to take So that's that's the process that they were going through right now As far as the timeline we started this project back in January We had a kickoff meeting as Chad mentioned We did form a steering committee to help with the planning process It was really a diverse group of folks representing a really a range of Groups including the arts community neighborhood organizations the business community The county staff and and other representatives were also very involved also And staff to Chad and Steve were both instrumental and really moving the process forward So this group not also or not only provided a sounding board for the recommendations and helped us Sift through some of the public input, but we hope that they'll also be instrumental in Beginning implementation right after adoption. We met with the committee three times And then as part of the second meeting we went out on a bus tour of the city It gave us an opportunity to look at some of the redevelopment ideas Talk about them as a group and really see what was going on So if you got behind a slow-moving city bus in May, I apologize right now so But all you know that as I mentioned the committee was was very helpful in moving the process forward Okay, so as Chad mentioned also we had an extensive public outreach for this process We had a variety of Outreach opportunities focus groups. We also had some one-on-one interviews We had a community vision workshop and then Chad Steve and Jolina Hosted a booth at the farmers market in August and really had an opportunity to share some of the key recommendations with the public and Get feedback on that also And finally throughout the the plan process we had a website that had key documents And meeting results that that were posted so that people could go check it out so as part of One of the the products that we did for this plan we took all of that input that we got at these meetings and With the help of the steering committee and staff prepared a vision statement graphic And it's it's over here too in a somewhat larger format so a vision statement is really meant to be a collection of statements or a single statement that is intended to be an overall guide For the the plan overall really all the recommendations in the document should tie back to this recommendation Or should tie back to this vision statement and make sure it's kind of a check-in to make sure that the decisions moving forward are consistent with this overall vision for the future So we got as you can imagine we got a lot of ideas from the public about you know What should be done with the city in the future? But these main ones were really what came to the top as the priorities for moving forward I'm just gonna read those out quickly the first one build a self-sustaining economy To focus on the city center Three revitalize our neighborhoods For capitalized on like Michigan and five cultivate the arts and other cultural assets And there's some more detailed recommendations on under each one of those and you'll be able to find those in the plan in the relevant chapters also, but We really feel like to that this document. It's an it's a nice 11 by 17 Color graphic can be used as a marketing piece to also boost the image of the city too So it can definitely serve a dual purpose Okay, so now we're going to transition a little bit into some of the key recommendations from the plan the First one and probably the one that at least city staff will reference the most is the future land use map the future land use map is a host of different types of Land use categories everything from residential commercial industrial Types of land uses and it it sets out how the city could develop over the next 20 to 25 years It's important because the state State statutes say that all land use decisions that the city will make moving forward have to be consistent with that map So what are some examples of land use decisions? So? Annexations rezonings conditional use permits So a lot of the things that the plan commission and the council to deal with Have to now going forward be consistent with this map And we can talk about that a little bit later in more detail But in general and we do have some more we do have this map in three sections in the plan too because it gets a little a little Fuzzy especially in the downtown but you know basically the idea for future growth is the future non residential development businesses industry job creation job growth areas would be near the interstate corridor obviously for access reasons and then Areas to immediately to the south and immediately north of the city would be identified for future residential development pretty pretty straightforward So with that Going to turn it over Jolena We'll be happy to take any questions at the end or if anybody has anything right away on the topics that I addressed I can certainly Take them now too, but okay any questions. I forgot to mention before we are on live television tonight So we'll need our mics Great, thanks. I'll go through the key recommendations now beyond the land use future land use map So Jessica is going to put up a larger version of this map But it's what we call the opportunities and focus area map and like the vision statement. This is a Graphic or a map that we think really can serve well to stand alone on its own You can have this out as your especially city staff and the mayor can go out and use This is a tool to say here's where we're focusing on and as you might have guessed from some of the categories Jessica was mentioning from the vision statement The community the steering committee and the city staff really guided us to understand that they're focused on revitalizing the core and so the focus areas that are Obviously hard to read here, but downtown is a key area The lakefront where the pentare former pentare site the Willow Creek Business Center Which is Indiana Avenue and we'll talk about these a little bit as we go through Calumet Drive North 15th Street Michigan Avenue Taylor Drive and South Business Center or South Business Drive, sorry Those are areas that are very big and encompass large parts of your community So obviously even with targeting these you're going to have to focus on specific Projects knowing you know constraints with budgets and staff time and volunteer support So as as the city moves forward in implementing this you really have to figure out where you want to spend your energy But this is a way at least of organizing the key areas So this actually follows along with the executive summary We wanted to pull out what are the key things are the key initiatives If you're gonna get started now for the next five to ten years where should energy be focused based on the input we received Promoting infill and redevelopment. So obviously this example here Is the Calumet Drive and 15th Street and what we're talking about here is really Looking at a land-use pattern that maybe has shifted and you know former commercial area that maybe isn't as thriving where areas that you could do new projects and Also connect to the neighborhoods and improve the area overall The purple bubble up above is employment infill So another location within your community to put appropriate business development for employment growth Another key recommendation or initiative is spurring economic development and job creation I just threw in this graphic from a marketing piece. That's on your city website called the fresh tech Marketing initiative that encompasses the Willow Creek business park all the way to the the lakeside business center where the Pentair site is Located but I use this because I wanted to to illustrate how as a community You can continue to develop the Sheboygan brand or rebrand and think about new ways to advance economic development in the community And maybe differentiate yourself not just from your neighbors, but throughout the region in the state Focusing on targeted economic development growth areas This is just another graphic that shows, you know You've been spending a lot of time over the past 20 25 years working on South Pier working on downtown now growing beyond that Working on Calumet Drive north 15th as I mentioned Michigan Avenue was an area that people really brought up is being you know It's it's basically what I would consider your downtown, but it's still still separate So how to focus a little bit more energy there and work on that like you have in other areas and then the Taylor Drive area Which you've already been underway in redeveloping but continuing that Then focusing on targeted economic development growth areas so advancing things like the fresh tech Initiative regional foods is another initiative that the city has been working on in partnership with the Sheboygan County EDC Developing the Willow Creek Business Park or advancing the recommendations that come out of that and are adapted and then maximizing the lakefront business center These were really seen as the key areas of opportunity now I mean, there's there's plenty of areas that could use other Investment, but if you really wanted to make a difference in the next five to ten years These were the areas people felt really should be focused on Of course, it's important for this community to further continue to enhance the lakefront and the riverfront That's been a very strong initiative that you've been undertaking for many many years But continue to attract new development find new ways to appeal to residents as as well as you've done is appealing to visitors I think we heard that people want to make sure it also is a very strong residential draw And I think that's an area that we can continue working on in the future And then facilitating a healthy community and that means a lot of different things But I think one thing that's come out of this is really Healthy living in terms of foods Being able to bike to work walk to work people being able to live in an environment that is healthy and sustaining That again ties into the enhancing the transportation system you have a great effort at your county level and It was important many people at the table felt it was important to make sure that the regional plan or the county UI plan is implemented and then that is actually played out in the city of Sheboygan as well So that was important another thing that's come up that you probably wouldn't be a surprise to you is the idea of advocating for the I-43 interchange at Indiana Avenue and People felt that in order to revitalize India Indiana Avenue, which has been a big Discussion over the last couple years something that's really needed and this is coming from the business as well as residential community Is some sort of additional interchange to make that area thrive? Continuing to provide high quality public services Establishing citywide broadband services came out as an important issue addressing future sanitary sewer capacity and water system improvements Strengthening neighborhoods so as we're talking about the commercial corridors and opportunities for business growth We're also talking about finding ways to improve your existing neighborhoods your historic neighborhoods the core of this community and Finding ways to make sure people want to live in the city We heard not just with our efforts, but also the the young professionals Focus group that was held by the EDC It was really interesting because I think people think everybody wants to you know move out to Sheboygan Falls Or you know people are moving out and that's not really the case what they heard in that event was people want to live In Sheboygan they just need to figure out or we need to have more opportunity for that so more rental housing that isn't That is desirable to you know young professionals that maybe work in the outline area But they want to live in your most urban environment here And then that I guess I jumped ahead diversifying the city's housing stack I just threw the photo of the capsule building on here as an example because that is a project that you know It's been underway. It's you know, we're trying to to match the right developer to fill that need that I just said But there's other areas and throughout the plan we talk about areas where you might be able to infill with additional market rate housing To kind of diversify your housing stack and either keep the people here that are here or draw people in that are going to work in the region And then something that was also important to this group was advancing the tradition of rich arts cultural facilities and events The Partnering with business and Chamber of Commerce was important and then something that came up that I haven't necessarily heard in other communities Is the idea of preparing an inventory of what's available culturally it sounded like you know There's really a lot of people out there doing different things some people are you know putting lists together But there's really not a all-encompassing inventory and they felt like that would really help sell the community It goes back to your branding as well as just let people know in one location what's going on So that seems like an achievable Activity once somebody takes charge of you know doing that and then Jessica is just going to wrap up on the next steps And then we'll take questions. Oh, yeah So statutes identifies a Fairly prescriptive process for adopting the comprehensive plan It will the plan will go to council on the 17th. They will recommend it back to plan the plan commission The plan commission will make a recommendation by resolution For the council to adopt the plan And then we have to go through a 30-day public review period and during that period we have to distribute the draft plan to adjacent communities and to the state and to the county and Following that 30-day period the the council can or it is required to hold a public hearing And then they can adopt it anytime after that So tentatively we've identified December 5th that public hearing And then after that we would distribute then the final adopted plan in case there were any changes to those same surrounding and overlapping communities again, so And then we will immediately commence with with implementation and in a lot of those implementation ideas were the ones that that Jolina talked about in those The in her section of the presentation and they're also in the executive summary that that Was distributed So this is our steering committee and we really can't thank them enough for the time and the efforts They that they put in obviously it's not riveting stuff to all of us only as planners And we really appreciate the time that they put in so Wanted to acknowledge them Any questions from the council? Chad do we you need a motion from this body tonight? You got it down for discussion and possible action Yeah, I don't think we need a I don't think we need a motion from it for this particular item because There's going to be a resolution coming into council anyway as part of the state statute All right, but one thing I just wanted to say and in closing is This process and I Jolina really hit on some of the key Redevelopment efforts in the city's inner core is where we need to do a lot of work But we also had a steer holder a stakeholder committee meetings with They did with our surrounding townships and gained a lot of interest and you'll see that in the plan As to what the town of Sheboygan's feels were and what the town of Wilson's feels were and some of our you know Future expansion because some of our industrial expansion obviously is going to happen to the south and there's some key pieces of Property that have been identified south of the Sheboygan business center the current business center for the industrial part And then kind of some residential stuff maybe to the north and some areas that are either in the city or very near the city So even though the presentation focused a lot on the core and our downtown You know there is some expansion out into those areas because those are were Obviously industrial is going to happen versus in the center core as it had in the past that that's you know Obviously a movement that's moving forward So the plan does identify all that and I you know if you have time I would recommend that you go to their website and you don't have to read the whole plan But just scan through some of those key areas because those are going to be the Initiatives that we're going to be pushing forward when developers come to us and when you know We're looking for new opportunities To really branch out for some of those areas as well. So this is kind of our 20 year guiding Principle moving forward as a community and in our department alone as well as other departments will be referring to this as we move forward Thanks, Chad. Thank you. Thank you for the presentation ladies We'll move on to item number eight on the agenda and that is a discussion and possible action Regarding shukert farms conservation plan presentation by a grave consultants I'll call on Chad again to make the introduction We have to do some technology switch over here For a second PowerPoint presentation, but while Carolyn is getting that together. I'll kind of give you an introduction on that plan That this is the plan that was approved by the council with a $40,000 grant from the DNR And I just want to recognize in the in the back of the room is Stacy Rohn from the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources Who's been kind of a spearheader of these projects at the DNR level? And approached the city and said we have money. We want to do projects. Are you willing to be the sponsor of these projects? So, you know, we we think the DNR moving forward, especially this is a smaller project at 40,000 But we have this habitat restoration project under contract now with the SEH for 450,000 with up to five million of improvements being happening next summer as part of the Sheboygan River project So we're proud that the DNR is a partner in this on on this project But what this project really was was to look at the Shukard Farms The DNR's has they have a couple technical advisory committees that identified the Shukard property as a key property to study from a conservation standpoint and figure out what's happening there because it's a very prestigious It's a very prestigious piece of property with a lot of You know, there's environmental corridors There's there's challenges with developing that and we will and we're this really turned out to be a project that Allows us to kind of guide our development moving forward So what what we did was we went out on RFP for this and we hired Graf out of Milwaukee another consultant that We've worked with in the past and they've put together a conservation plan for that in in Carolyn's gonna go into Kind of their findings on what they found they spent a very short time out there dad gathering a lot of data on that property We've got a lot of data from the DNR And there was some stuff that came forward that we weren't aware of and it's it's gonna have to be played into the whole Development picture as we move forward. So I'll let Carolyn kind of go through her presentation And then if you have specific questions, we'll try to answer them as well What we're gonna be looking for under under this one though is a recommendation to the council on this plan So we can get this wrapped up submit our final invoicing to the DNR get our funds reimbursed and close out this project Thanks, yeah Thank you again. I'm Carolyn S. Wine. I'm with Graf We had some partners on this project as well our aquatic expert looking at Willow Creek and and the fish that are there is from ecological research partners and then our wildlife expert is Western Great Lakes bird and bat out there Looking at the different reptiles as well as birds Go ahead. I assume most of you are familiar with the shoe cart property is a hundred and seventy seven acres It's on the west side just west of Taylor Drive very unique It's unique to have a property this large as an environmental feature It has been farmed over the years It has a creek going through the middle as well as some very high quality Environmental features to the north and as you may or may not know it has some very interesting Topography, I think most of the most of us have been around the perimeter of the site But actually when you're walking through it it has some unique features. So I'll walk through what we looked at as Chad mentioned We only had one month. Normally these studies take several months. So we did gather a lot of data that was Really just over a few weeks, but with the understanding there's other data out there that we used as well So what was the purpose? Well, the purpose was to identify the types and qualities of habitats So we looked at the plant communities We looked at forestry as I mentioned Willow Creek the actual habitat of the water as well as which Fish species were there and then we looked at wildlife which includes birds The different reptiles that are on the on the site as well as some mammals We wanted to look at this to determine. Well, which areas make sense to protect There's a lot of areas, but which ones are we protecting as is because they're high quality right now Which ones are we going to protect? But they need some restoration. They need some improvement We also wanted to take a look at which areas make sense to develop based on topography and again Which areas might have the few fewest environmental constraints? And all this is based on not just our field survey, but input from the city the DNR TAC stands for a technical advisory committee that we worked with They are currently looking at the entire Sheboygan River corridor the area of concern through the DNR So they had a lot of input in a lot of data they provided and a lot of studies that that have already been done So start out with plants I'm not going to go into a lot of detail because there's a lot of very technical detail that environmental staff have provided But overall there are 31 different plant communities for this particular parcel If you look at the map the the blues are some wetland categories the green are uplands Which includes some of the forested areas and then there are a lot of invasive species So species that are taking over essentially are good quality Species that are good for the the habitat the birds and things that are there So we've identified those and forestry there are six forest stands or large forest areas most of those have a fair overall health and Again, there are some invasive areas that we are looking to to clean up So recommendations there What we're hearing is that most of the land needs some kind of management and that that varies from going in and getting rid of Invasive species to making sure we have some new opportunities for those areas to actually grow and Augmenting which means allowing some natural generation of some of those plants that are that are healthier plants good And for forestry again, some of it's been degraded. There's some very very aggressive Invasive species that what happens essentially? I'm not the expert on this so it's easier for me to understand by explaining it creates a lot of shade Which means all the new Sprouts can't grow and so the healthy plants that you want on the site are getting choked out essentially by the invasives And so we need to clean that up What what this leads to is if you have a lack of ground cover because a lot of these trees that aren't the high quality trees are taking over We have a lot of erosion because there aren't plants that are the healthy ones that we want Maintaining the ground so the ground is washing away when it when we have some of the large storms and it affects your habitat So forestry would be to remove a lot of those invasive species and there's a little more detail obviously in the report We want to enhance the higher quality forest and those species and then establish that understory So we do have the higher quality plants that will help with the erosion and habitat In the wetlands there as I mentioned there's several different ones a through e and you can see they're scattered throughout the site We have some higher quality ones to the north. We have several to the south for orientation This is the railroad that creates a very strong division in the site So you have the southern portion and then the northern portion. This is Indiana down here I won't go through all the details but their recommendations for again Maintaining the quality of many of those wetlands because for some of those we have found Groundwater seeps so there's water coming up from the ground Which is actually the best thing for Willow Creek because it keeps it cooler And I'll talk a little bit about that because that's actually a very critical component And so those areas need to be protected And then for wildlife 55 bird species, I thought that was a very high number, but they've gone out They've been able to track they listen to the sounds and they can tell you what kind of birds they are There are migratory birds that come from the north stop at the shukard property and then continue to the south So again, it's a very important property for that as well Six of those 55 are considered species of greatest conservation need or special concerns So there are some regulations usually that you should protect them as much as possible There are nine mammal species. Those are what you'd expect. There's deer. There's well the turkey are considered the birds, but there's Raccoons and squirrels, so there's nothing extraordinary in that area, but there are quite a few and then there's 16 insect and Invertebrate species as well So what we're looking at for implications here. We need a healthy Plant community and a healthy habitat for all of those birds to continue breeding and surviving here as well as all the wildlife So again, you're gonna hear me say we need to get rid of a lot of those invasive species and look at how we can Allow some of the the higher quality plans to regenerate And essentially the last item here is looking at a management plan ultimately We need a management plan that identifies over time how to get rid of those invasive species How to regenerate the plants that you want and that'll take quite some time But again, it's through a management process And then aquatic we looked at several categories of aquatic the first one I'm going to talk about is water quality The quality itself is actually fairly good We have some issues when they're storms And we have a lot of water flow that comes through the temperature Fluctuates to a fair amount again the railroad is here So the piece north of the temperature warms up But then it becomes very cool as you get closer to Taylor Drive and come down towards Indiana And again, that's because we did find a lot of these seeps that come out a century It's the water coming from below the ground that to cooler temperature But you can tell by the pictures you'll see some more in the upcoming slides That there is a lot of erosion and so we need to look at how to improve that And some of that isn't just on this property, but some of that is coming from outside of the chukar property So to get into the stream flow, which again is causing some of that erosion Lot not luckily, but we did have some storms in August So our Tim was able to actually monitor the increase in water flow right after those storms It peaks you can see, you know, I don't need to go through all the details, but you can see the very high peaks That's right after a storm, but then it recedes very quickly. So the water is moving through very quickly So some of the implications we're talking about they come flashy flows They're causing the the bank erosion, which is increasing actually the width of the river of the creek And as I mentioned some of that's not from the site some of that is from upstream you have Impacts from obviously the highway and other pieces to the north As well as other runoff within the area coming from impervious surfaces And the implications for that as I mentioned it's it's widening your channel You can see areas where a lot of the tree roots are exposed There are a couple areas where he said it's not going to take much time And you're going to have a more debris falling in they call them little woody debris areas where you see trees have Already fallen into the creek and it starts to block the flow of the water in some cases those form Habitats, but if you have too much of that building up it affects the the quality that habitat So ultimately we just want to look at how to reduce that amount of erosion And so habitats as I mentioned the fish need to have the flow have the there's a lot of oxygen the actual Quality of the water is very good, and I would say although there's a lot of concern This creek is very healthy compared to most within our region I think there's a lot of places that would like the quality of Willow Creek The the really the goal here is to maintain that and then improve it to restore it We understand that there's you know people that are aware of some of the fishing opportunities here And so you want to think long term what are those opportunities are those opportunities for recreation? As well as for the environmental impact and so I mentioned those debris dams We want to make sure those are Removed and you can see it there's different characteristics of the the creek Looking at the fish There's some previous studies that we looked at there is a dominance of fish species that are usually found in more Marginal trout streams although the stream is designated by the DNR as a class 2 trout stream Which is a high quality stream We want to make sure that we can provide the habitat for those fish to actually reproduce salmon was observed in the creek in 0406 and this year and Trout has been observed upstream in 2006 so that tells you the the quality is high So we want to make sure that we protect it and improve it I won't go through all this but these are all the different fish that are actually in the creek and Then there are six different aquatic recommendations. Some of those are on-site some are off-site and the purpose of a lot of these recommendations is to allow the city and the DNR to be able to get grant funding to come in and actually Implement some of these improvements So you're going to help the quality of the creek but not just the creek but the actual entire habitat So project one is looking at the flow Restoration as I talked about you want to look at retention outside of the creek So you start to flow slow down that flow of water rushing into the creek and you can do that with infiltration Project to looking at the culverts and the road crossings that are currently on the site as well as any that would be proposed and Removing some of those culverts that are undersized which would allow fish to actually Pass through those areas and move a little bit to the north of the site as well There's a little offshoot to the north Project three we call those the large wood debris areas just managing that so you can improve the water flow The bank stabilization They're various different techniques to reduce the continued erosion In infiltration will help with that as well. So making sure the water's not always flowing right into the creek Looking at the grade control and the riffle enhancement, which is right in the the bed itself working with them proving the water flow And then ultimately a monitoring program which looks off-site as well as on the shaker property Have these implementation items improve the quality stabilized it in some cases so you can monitor that over time So ultimately what this led to was what we're calling a concept plan We looked at all those areas that were identified as very high quality and the highest quality which you can see are this purple color here Those are to the north. Those are sedge metal very high quality plant materials and then in The the steep slope here right off of Taylor Drive. There are those seeps I mentioned So there's water coming through the ground, which is very valuable to the site Also, there are a lot of permitting issues that say you can't you can't develop there anyway besides it's very steep So we want to make sure those are preserved and then everything that shows up in this blue and darker blue color throughout the Meanders, I know it's there's a lot of information to see on here. Those are all areas that should be protected But they also need enhancement and restoration all those things I talked about the different species and some of the water flow the stream bank to the creek which you can see coming through here and Then if you look at the preservation 116 acres an option one are Recommended for preservation which is 65% of the site That's a significant portion and much of that is because it's either land We aren't really permitted to develop or there are constraints to do to some of the slopes and the permitting that would be required So that allows 61.1 acres available for development You're going to see the majority of that land is along Indiana Avenue You have very easy access from that road the topography is much easier to work with you would have easier access through Circulation and then there's a large one in the central area Which is now in a field which is the 14.2 acres As well as some perimeter pieces that you can see just around the axis here would be Adjacent to development that already exist off a Taylor Drive, and then there are two smaller pieces immediately north of that railroad Oh, the railroad is elevated. We are not able to Connect between the north and the south because it would be a very significant expense It's not wide enough for a truck to get through or emergency vehicle to get through So we are looking at access to the north only from Taylor Drive coming down and access from the south would come off of Indiana There are two purple axis points the yellow axis points would be for pedestrian or bike paths only That would allow people to connect to the other trails especially from the west you could connect to the old plank trail You'd come around that could allow you to come through the site The sites immediately north of the railroad are a little more challenging because of their size So you would be restricted in the the size of the development and associated parking But they're perfect for somebody who's looking to be you know within a green sustainable development That's part of their mission They could easily come in and access the employees could access a trail system that we propose so you could hike throughout the whole site if you could look at this The lines that are shown here. There's a very steep Topography right here coming off of Taylor Drive. So that is a little bit challenging And then as you go to the northern parcel, there is a ridge Right there you're on the highest point of the ridge and you have woods on either side Again, you'd have to restrict how wide the the street is or the road is to allow the cars and the trucks in there And again, it would be ideal for a business that's looking for again the screen development They look at the scenic views. It's a very beautiful site You still have very easy access to the interstate and as Jelena mentioned off of Indiana the proposed interchange goes through I think that's ideal for Attracting businesses to this site for recreation. We've looked at as I mentioned the trail system the bike ped Trails that would come in and ultimately there could be some active recreation There's an opportunity here for some active or recreational fishing And so that's something that could be marketed as a bit of a tourism and we have quite a few fishermen in our Office one who grew up in Kohler and he said, you know, if that opens up I'm coming So he knows about the quality of the salmon and some of the trout that are there But it does have some constraints as I mentioned, we can't connect north and south but because of the Topography the ridge lines and some of the DNR permitting that'll be triggered. We did want to look at another option if it becomes so cost Prohibitive to develop this one. I'll let Chad go the second option We did look at how much could be developed to the north We have the three perimeter sites with the majority in the center being preserved now That only makes sense if you can come up with grants or somebody Provides grants for conservation easement or long-term deed restriction on the site So again, that requires some additional research or partnering with the DNR some of the conservancy groups as part of that technical advisory committee There were some ideas Suggested for how additional funding could be brought in because it has to balance the investment that was made But then the lack of money that you're going to get out from only having your development down here I will say the prime site is really along Indiana Because of the access the large size of it. You could do a couple larger Tenants here, or you could have several smaller tenants. So that one's actually pretty flexible Infiltration opportunities are these little gray black areas are Are really a suggestion for depending on what kind of development would occur? That's where they would best be located. We had some of our engineers take a look at that So it's an issue that needs to be discussed as this plan moves forward But there are two options on the table this one has thirty eight point five acres for development with seventy eight percent being preserved and The other constraints as I mentioned no linkages north and south would be the same So that's where we're at. We are submitting that after we get our last set of edits from the DNR And if there are any questions, I think Chad and I could try to take those Any questions, or do you have other comments yet? What I want to say is What we're really what the two options that she presented is is it's by all means not hindering any Development opportunities on the north side, but as a community We are outreaching with some of the key partners through the DNR and some other federal agencies to see if we can leverage some other funds about the with the idea of trying to Recoup what the city has spent on the north side of the parcel and if we could get Grant money to recoup those funds and look at putting that in preservation with just Recreational trails and really focus ourselves on developing the south side now. That's not to say we're not taking people through there We've had a couple tours with a couple Development options and the right development could go in that north side It's just that getting utilities and infrastructure in there is cost is costly So the idea is is let's try to focus our efforts on south of north of Indiana south of the railroad tracks those 38 acres and kind of build up some equity and some revenues and then move forward at that stage and that and also work on trying to obtain some funding to see if we can Recoup our costs and really focus in on developing the south side So that's really where we're at. We're we're exploring a number of federal Great Lakes initiative Opportunities that are out there We're gonna probably be applying for some grants come the first of the year to see about doing some enhanced conservation on that north side See where that goes and then we're still open for business and taking people and then interested developers and Submitting we just submitted this on the Milwaukee market this development concept to If there is any kind of green Developers for the northern parcel so it like Carolyn said it's going to be the key It's gonna we're gonna have to identify the key user for that north parcel It's not going to be an industrial or anything. That's got a lot of heavy traffic because the road Construction is going to be challenging so if anybody has any specific questions or anything we can answer them otherwise what we're looking for is a Recommendation to the full council to adopt the plan This isn't the full plan. It's really the executive summary the full plan is like 200 some pages With a lot of scientific information in it. That's way over my head But you know we I've sent out how do you can access that plan as well and further look into it But it's really this is going to be kind of our guiding Process moving forward with developing this this large chunk of land Have a question from Alderman Hammond. Actually, I would move that we Make a positive recommendation as a council second to accept this document a motion and a second Second by Alderman Versey. I believe under discussion I do have a couple I do have a couple questions just so I can visualize this a little better under the 14.2 acre site As far as giving me an idea of what the size of that would be could you give would that would be that beef for example like the size of the That the the Taylor Drive area where Festival Foods is I mean I'm having a hard time visualizing how big 14.2 acres is it I would say it's probably it probably is the area where the Taylor Drive Taylor shopping center Taylor H shopping center Festival Foods kind of bad area culvers Yeah, that's about a 14 acre parcel Okay, that would include the Festival Foods and culvers not the entire Taylor. I don't think so district there Festival the shopping center may be culvers Napa that kind of area and then the 31.7 acres Can you give us a little visual? Visualization of what 31 acres would be compared to what's kind of developed in the city right now Yeah, I understand that but something that's something that's developed Okay, okay good Alderman Samson, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I don't have any questions. I just have a Comment it's absolutely amazing that you folks were able to get this done within 30 days That's a lot of information a lot of detail So my hats off to everybody involved getting that this whole thing put together. So thank you for all the hard work You guys have done. This is this is tremendously. This is amazing Thank you Alderman Samson we have a motion in a second why don't we call the roll on this one? belt Hi Carlson. Hi, Decker. Hi, Hammond. Hi, Hammond. Hi Heinemann hi Hi, Kittleson. Hi, Maddochek. Hi Brinflash. Hi, Riesler. Hi, Samson. Hi Vanderweel. Hi, Percy. Hi 15 I motion carries Next we have on the agenda items number nine and ten The documents from dimple Adams Mrs. Adams call me this afternoon and said she was ill. She's having some health issues and couldn't be here tonight So she asked me to ask the committee whether they'd be willing to hold these two documents and tell the next Committee of the whole meeting so she'd have an opportunity to be here and address the the committee so moved We have a motion in a second. I'll hold Items number nine and ten to the next meeting all in favor opposed chair votes aye Before we go into item number 11, let's take a five minute break so that the television cameras can be turned off Why don't we reconvene about? Ten to eight