 Special, special people from the immediately, Kenfolk podcast. What's going on with you? From Living Tenor Key, they in the building. Hey. Get it off of my dog. Appreciate y'all pushing up. I love y'all's show. First of all, I'm a fan. Oh, man. Of the show. I'm glad to see to be a part of season two. You know, much like in the NFL, you know, when you have a good season, one season. Uh-huh. It doesn't mean the next season is going to be great, you know what I'm saying? So it's good to be able to see y'all consistently, you know, holding it down like four flats in the dough mat. For sure. For sure. You know, I like it, man. I think the great drafting of you guys have done, but putting together Marcel Alexander here, who I've been a fan of way before he was even doing this thing, man. Oh, real quick. Tell us what he was doing before. Immediately pause. Whoa. Let me say, I'm talking about goes back to the layup record. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like I've been a fan of musically of his man. He's always been my kinfolk, you know what I'm saying? For sure. And we definitely have had many, many nights, man, where we, you know, well, Seattle, you know what I mean? Has been my squad. You know what I'm saying? And we all remember being, distinctly remember being over at your spot, whatever. With Cody and everybody watching them games, bro. Real sports dude, you know what I'm saying? A1. Put that mic. Oh, no, y'all can keep talking. Yeah, we don't give a fuck. We don't anything like that. But now you remember that time with the ego it flew in the back yard? Yeah. That was crazy. Man, listen, I said, we the Atlanta Falcons and we's on the patio. They live right by the stadium. They live right by the stadium. We're across the street from the BN stadium. And so we just out there chilling or whatever, right? You know what I mean? Before the game started pre-gaming. And I looked to the left. And we like, I'm sitting here. Marcel was like over here. Cody was over here. I looked to my left. Man, it was a falcon right here where he's standing. It was a falcon right there. I looked. I'm talking about like, listen, I look like I turn and I jump from right here to where that camera is at. I'm talking about literally, I leaped. This is a real falcon? No, a real falcon. It was a real falcon. That's just crazy. Bro, it was a real falcon right there. And it's, listen, and when it's spreaded, it's wings, bro. Bro, the shit was like. Bro. She was crazy. You smoke real rapper weed. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm not. So you was sober. No, listen. No, listen, listen. Did it not happen? Yeah. It happened. All facts, bro. No. I said I was on the shit too. The Bible was crazy, dawg. No, it was crazy, bro. Bro. Something I never will forget, bro. I mean, I looked up and it was like right there. The fact that that big falcon could have gotten there and I didn't even hear it. Like if it would have snagged it would have bit me. You know what I mean? That's how close it was right there. But the view up close on one like that? Yeah. And it was just chilling, bro. It was just chilling. I don't know if it wanted to smoke or what. Nigga, I'll probably never go on a patio again. You know, must say to be unstable. No, that shit was crazy, dawg. Everybody said Atlanta Falcons is real. So you fought with the Falcons? Listen, I'm going to tell you this about Atlanta Falcons, man. It's an immediately no. The Falcons, the Falcons, when the Falcons... That didn't cross the fuck out of me. I don't think he fought with them. It's not. I got to be honest with you. And the thing about Falcons fans is that they are the most... I can tell you the sky is blue. And they tell you... It ain't blue, man. No, it's black. I don't understand the... I think it's the Atlanta culture that kind of puts a binder or some kind of blinds over the eyes of the Falcons fans. They make them think that for some reason every year this is going to be the year. Because the problem is once Brady did what he did to y'all and I want to say it to y'all because of the fact that I bet against Atlanta on that Super Bowl and I made some money. I couldn't wait to get back. I was the only... When I flew to Houston, I was on the plane and all these Atlanta people was going and everybody was, you know, Atlanta Falcons. I said, man. I said, New England, baby. The whole plane was on my head. So even when they was goddamn up. Listen. The Falcons up 2830. I was hosting a party in Houston, right? Uh-huh. Hosting a party while this was going on. So DJ is rocking. And it's like one of those... It's a bar spot. So it was like, you know, everybody's out there watching the game in between the commercials. Play some music. DJ's playing. We hosting and shit like that, right? So I'm doing that. And I'm sick to my stomach inside because I've got money on the game. Got you. And I bet everybody in the barbershop, because Atlanta, like I said, Atlanta in the championship, man, everybody. God damn me. Fuck what God damn me. Hey, come on. I take some of that. Everybody. Okay, cool. Listen. It's cool. All right, cash out. All right, everybody. The whole barbershop. I mean, I went on the... I went there. It was a Friday beforehand. Before I left. Moga Grooming. My boy Trilla tell you. Bam. I bet 10 people in the barbershop. 10 individuals. 10 of them that are regular. I'm going to see them now. Yeah. Okay. And you know you're going to see them. I know I'm going to see them. So it's no getting out the bed. Right. Half time is going on. They calling. They texting. I'm getting texts while I'm doing the show. Trying not to be lenient towards any, you know, Atlanta or the... I'm just trying to be... Because you got to add bias. I'm adding bias. What's up with the Patriots fans? What up with them doing all that? Knowing you won. Knowing I'm... I'm sitting there looking like... Your Patriots fans looking sick. Everything I'm going to make. Everything I'm going to make down here at this show. And half time I'm looking like it's going to go to everybody and when I get home. They getting the whole back end. The whole back end is going to go to the barbershop. Okay. Immediately it turned around. And it switched. Oh, it switched up. Oh, you lit in there. Listen, I was so lit. Listen, I left the spot that I was hosting and just drove down to the relying stadium. Didn't even have a ticket. But I won and the game was over. I just wanted to go out there and party with everybody. Yeah, yeah. Because I know it lit. Because it was lit. And I drove down and I was just out there kicking and having a great time. Came back to Atlanta and collected from everybody at the barbershop. Ever since then, I knew it's not going to happen for Atlanta. And it's just, that was the closest that Atlanta ever got. And they're not going to, it's not going to happen for them like that again. But you know the only, man, I just feel like they didn't want to see no parade in Atlanta. Like they didn't want to see. They didn't want to, oh man. It's niggas in Atlanta. We don't, you know how teams go and have three peeps and win back to back. Atlanta don't need that. Niggas just need one in this motherfucker. Niggas talk about that shit till they die. Yeah. It's going to take about that long too for y'all to win one. Bro, it's still niggas got to be bragging on the dirty bird. Niggas still bragging on the dirty bird. You don't see the old niggas still talking about the dirty bird. When they had Jamal Anderson, niggas don't want to hear that shit no more. Yeah, that shit over. That shit doesn't have to rely on the braids, man. The braids, I give it up to the braids now. It's a different energy though, like baseball and football. But braids, I can't be excited if the braids won. They just won the championship of niggas. The braids, but I ain't gonna lie, like when they won... How'd you get that? Yeah, when the braids won last year, I live right over there off of the Divinas area. So I shoot right to the Earth State when they won last year. I like going to be a part of that, of the celebration when somebody's playing. Yeah. That energy just be so... You ain't going to have to say it. Two years ago, two years ago. Yeah, no. It was two years ago, right? You ain't going to have to worry about that shit. No, I ain't going to be worried about that shit. I ain't going to bring y'all some help. They ain't going to do nothing with the hogs. Yeah, that's the hogs. Yeah, what off-season moves did the hogs even make? Shit, none. Nothing. And they got a couple of Sprite commercials. Other than that. I got a Sprite commercial too. Shout out to Glorilla. Shout out to Lotto. Shout out to Nas. I was the DJ in the 50 Years Hip Hop Sprite commercial. For sure. Oh, yeah, man. I just got my first procedural check when I got it. I ain't know it was coming. I think I was on phone with you. I want Boss Sprite for everybody. That how the rich niggas do. I don't want me going to pocket that money. Get you a Sprite, nigga. I'm going to pocket a Sprite. That got me another meal. Let me get a Sprite. I'm not. I'm packing a Sprite. I don't know what I was going to say. Look, tell us about Who's Cloned on Tyrone. How did it come together? Um, 2021, when it was COVID, I booked that role. And me and my shout out to my boy, Jules Taylor. He's from Montgomery, Alabama. He's the guy co-wrote it and directed it. And, um, you know, it was just like, bro, there's going to be some difference from side five vibes. I was able to read it. And I was like, man, I'm just like, you know, I didn't know that the movie would start off with me being the first thing you see on it. I didn't see it yet. But I was like, just I told him, I said, man, this is different. It's a different vibe. And then we were shooting it when it was COVID. So it was like we didn't, um, it was like, okay, you had to be in quarantine. So it was like, it was in the bubble. We shot the film in the bubble. So basically like you can go to work. You get tested in the morning. You couldn't leave your hotel. When you left the hotel room, you only go on set. And then you can come back. You couldn't, you couldn't go home. You have to go back to, to the hotel room. Um, so we would stay in the hotel. And before you worked, you had to stay in quarantine for three days by yourself before going in to work. So you go get tested, stay by yourself for three days. And then you got permission to go on set. So that's the way we shot that movie. You know what I mean? So it was like you, an interview. So we shot for two weeks. And then, okay. So I was off after that. And then so you got to come back and do this role or this part of this part. So it'd be the same situation. Go quarantine three days by myself. And then go on set. So the blessing of it though was that every day you didn't, you had to go quarantine. You got to pay for every day that you just sat in the hotel room. That's the only reason I wouldn't mind it. When you were saying that shit then I was like, I don't know about that shit. No, listen, you got to pay for every time, the whole time you, and if it was on a weekend, then it was like time and a half. You know what I'm saying? Like, so, bro. I'm watching a game. Yeah. So my wife couldn't come see me. No, no. Your family couldn't come see you. Like you can have food delivered to you. But you couldn't like, That's when the COVID was like, you know what I mean? It was COVID. So we sit there with, that was like two months of work. There really could have been, to me, done within like maybe two weeks, if it was like now. Yeah, okay. But because of the sitting and waiting. But because of the sitting and doing that or whatever, bro, it was like, you know, we just all had to be. Did you know everybody who was going to be in it? I knew, you know, when I first saw it, I knew Jamie Foxx was a part of it. Okay. But a lot of these movies, they're so, they keep everything under wraps because they don't want anybody knowing this or that about it. They don't really find out everything until you get there. And you see a car. I see that car. She's like, damn, Jamie Foxx. It's okay. They go, okay. From P Valley in here. Okay. Okay. Then old girl. Okay. And then, but thing about it is you don't really chance to really get a chance to kick it with the people. Because that was good. Yeah. So if you don't, if you're not on scene with that person, you may see them in passing, but they was not, they were so strict like, nah, bro, you know what I mean? To get in here and go right to your room. They wasn't playing under it or whatever. And I want to try and mess the bag up. They don't know. That last day though, the last day, the last day, we was like, you know, we all thought it was going to be done. And then we was all like, you know, anybody going to the room, smoking and shit, and just like having a good time and vibing. And then they called me back. And it was like, we're going to reshoot the intro again. So I was like, I bet. So, No way. When we shot it again. And that, but in that movie, bro, one of the thing I realized, Hollywood got that money Atlanta where that money is it. Okay. We were shooting over there. Um, over off, uh, MLK, kind of on the way of you on the way to the, to the break, to the, to the, to the city. On the way. All right. So there's a little chicken spot, right on the left hand side before you, right before you make that right. And you on the same street with Mercedes. Yeah. So they done right there. So we shoot right there. Right. It's the hood out at night. And they were like, man, we ain't finna go nowhere. I said, I'm full man. We ain't finna move. So I don't fall like pay us to move. Well, do you know that these people when they cast out about 20 or 25 people, some of them junkie didn't even have cash out. And they would just like, man, $100. They paid about $5,000 to the people just to move from one side of the street to the other side of the street. What you doing? Get your ass up and win some money, man. Shout out to broken play. This your boy Nav Green. And I got some for you. Look, we matching whatever you put up. If you put up $100, we gon' match that $100 when you use the app and use the code broken play. Shout out the broken play. You put broken play in the prize pigs out. And when you use that, they gon' give you whatever you put up. So if you put up $39, they gon' match your $39. If you put up $74, they gon' match your $74. Whatever you got to spell, they gon' match it. So shout out to you and shout out to us for giving back, man. Shout out broken play, man. It's available in over 30 states. 31 to be exact. Cause whatever state you in, if you can't, you know somebody in another state. Be family. Let's get it. Go ahead over that a prize pig. Tell him we sent you. Let's get this money together, man. Broken play. I said, man, Hollywood got this money. You know what I'm saying? Just wild. So I was like, okay, that shit is crazy. But for a little nigga to be like, you got to pay us. Yeah. People don't vote this. You know how the shit work? They vote this. Yeah. And the people were like, man, we immediately ain't going, we're not going nowhere. You know what I'm saying? We're not going nowhere. That shit was crazy. You know what I'm saying? But the experience was dope, bro. Like I knew them. I mean, me and Jewel were talking about the movie. After we finished it, I was like, man, this is going to probably do something because of the stuff about the movie. Yeah. It's like so real as far as what's going on. And he was like, man, I don't know, man. I'm like, bro, I'm telling you, you got one with this one. It was marketing. It was good promo. Okay. Do you think the Jamie Foxx situation was real? Or do you think it was promo? About him being sick? Yeah. I think it was real. That was real. You couldn't, man, do you understand? That was a blessing though. That was a blessing. But people so conspiracy theorists that they were thinking like, man, bro, it really ain't sick, bro. I'm like, bro, no, bro, it really is sick. You know what I'm saying? But it just so happened. But I'm not saying it wasn't a smart move for them to be able to, like, find a way to capitalize off of it. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? The timing of it. Yeah, they did that. You know what I'm saying? But I didn't know what it was going to be. I was going to be the first thing until it came out. And I saw that. We went to the thing, you know. To the premiere? To the premiere in LA. But in Miami, it came out first in Miami. But I was with my son. My wife was overseas. And she was like, well, I was like, I was going to leave my boy with Jackson. You know what I mean? My 15-year-old was like, look, I'm going to go to Miami and just watch the show real quick, whatever. But I was like, you know what? I'm going to stay home. So it premiered at the Black Film Festival first. And I stayed home, even though that was where it premiered us. I'm going to wait for LA premiere. But when my phone was ringing, I was like, bro, bro, bro, bro, you the first time, bro, you know what I'm saying? I was doing crazy down there. And when I went out there and saw her, it was like, man, wow, bro, that was, that was dope. And even though it's other parts that didn't come, it was in that we did that didn't come out, I think it was dope to where they use a lot of good parts. And it was just a blessing, bro. And I feel like a chairman show. Yeah, it felt like that, bro. To be able to see something that I'm a part of, go number one on Netflix. I'm like, man, bro, like that was, that's all God, like, you know what I'm saying? I can do numbers and be thankful. So look, we just classified that as a chairman show. Yeah. So what y'all think? Would you rather have the money or the chairman show? So say for instance, they give you whatever you wanted in the contract to do the role. But you don't go number one. Many people might not even see it. It might go number 38 on Netflix. But you could get number one on Netflix and you get half of the money. Which one you want? I think the kind of individual I am, I would want to chill. I think because I think like, it's like, I don't want to do something that no one sees. You know what I'm saying? Like, I want to do something that's going to be able to affect the culture. And they could talk about it for a minute. To make an impact. You going money or chill? Immediately give me that check. Fuck all that. Respectfully, though. I don't know what you're saying. I celebrate the time of my baby. What's so funny? You put some deep thought in it. Immediately give me that check. I ain't got to think about it. Yeah. I mean, okay, but look at it from this perspective. Okay. But after you, okay, so say you got to check on that first one. Now you got to check. Now they come back and say we want to do part two or we can do another one. Would you still make that same decision just to get a check after you got a check already? I mean, you see, my thing is this. Like, but see, you know me. You know my real personality. I'm laid back. Yeah. You out the way. Yeah. I got my career. I'm ducked out. I don't even like people. You know what I'm saying? Real talk. I don't even like people. Yeah. It's just going to be me, the wife, the kids. I'm going to get some real estate. I'm going to flip the shit out of it and just be low-key. Real Memphis nigga, man. But the chip though. You don't want to have that chip. Without the dip, it's like, you know, without the dip. That chip without the dip. Thanks. Who your favorite NBA player? My favorite NBA player, LeBron. Okay. Stop it. This is our day. LeBron, what is it? Please, somebody. LeBron. Let me, let me, let me. When you say. Hold on. Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm asking you. You saying he your favorite player, now a favorite player all the time. Bro, James Peer, that's my favorite player. Who's your favorite. Monsec wife, get your ass up and let him sit down, man. Make our guest real comfortable, man. Get the fuck out the way. Man, stop it. The man up here talking good shit. My brother, man. You a good dude. That man said, my cell. First of all, if you don't mind. If you don't mind. Let me. Let me bottle. Let me. Alright, let me, let me. Let me present my case here. Oh god. Okay. Okay, guys, LeBron James is a great father. Yeah. LeBron James is a great father, a great husband, doesn't a great role model for the children. The kids can't read in the school. We need to work on that. But I will say that when it comes to being a real goat in the game, one must look at the amount of chips that the goat has and your goat, your king, does not have the same amount of chips as my king, which is Michael Jordan. Also, one second, one second. Also, I don't know when the last time I've seen anyone go to say I want a new pair of LeBrons. I've never seen a line for anyone asking, although, anyway, I mean, I think you can get those shoes at Walmart, possibly. Man, fuck, man. You're going to do fuck. I gotta be honest with you. I've never seen, I mean, the fact that the culture today, I saw LeBron's children. He has handsome young boys and two, and not palsy. I got a handsome young man, young keys. But what I noticed is they own their feet at the game. They didn't have only LeBron's, they had on Jordan's. The impact of Michael Jordan to the culture, if it was not for Michael Jordan, they'll be still wearing those little bitty shorts. Oh, I forgot, guys. News flashed. Did you guys see the NBA media day? Did you guys know what jersey that LeBron's wearing now? 23. It's 23. It's 23, guys. Let's forget, Mike, 123. Let's be, what? No, they don't. No, they don't. What preach? Blast for me. Hey, man. Blast for me. Get about the chance. Blast for me. Blast for me. I'm going to tell you this, man. Blast for me. You y'all remember Michael wore 45? Uh-huh. For two years, nobody gave a fuck. LeBron has wore six and 23, and both of them going to be retired when he finished. The reason why he wears six is because Jordan has six rings. Man, that ain't no fucking six rings. Oh, six rings. Six rings. Against who? Against a, oh, oh, let's talk about that. Hold on a sec. Let's, oh, oh, oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Michael Jordan didn't have to concoct in guys. Come play with me. Please, please, please come play with me. Please, please, come play with me. Will you please play with me to help me? No. Michael Jordan constructed his team, one team. Chicago, OK? Chicago, Chicago Bulls. And he would get smoked in them earlier years. Yeah, he would get smoked. He learned how to win. He got smoked so much he had to cut all his hair off just to play. He learned how to win. His hair fell out because he was He learned how to win. The mother niggas got old and retired. He learned how to win. Magic retired. Magic retired. He couldn't win when they retired. You know, they didn't want no smoke with Mike. They knew it was his, he was leaving now. Listen, listen, they leave, listen, listen. What are you talking about? They did not smoke Mike. Mike got smoked until he got to the championship. No, no, all right. Let me tell you something. The reason why I respect, the reason why I respect those of the state warriors is because they team came from the draft. They drafted their team and they came to the draft. That's what Michael Jordan and Chicago Bulls did. They did not go get a big three to be able to do. They didn't do none of that shit. Then it's Robin, then it's Robin and get drafted. Got a pivot. Ron Harper, all them niggas, they came in. Ron, he was messed up. No, Ron, Ron is, Ron wasn't the reason why they won no games. Ron was easy. They wouldn't have got cool cults from international league. They drafted him. These are drafted players. People didn't come do a big three to be able to try to. What size did you have, man? Come on, man. Come on, now you want to start to the GM. Hey, bro, honestly, man, anybody out to stop with the talk, LeBron James is not better than Michael Jordan. OK, no, listen, LeBron's legacy, well, he's a great player, Rich Paul, and what he's doing well. Listen, but all of this is great. But come on, man, come on, y'all. Do you think the league is tougher now than it was then? Yes, the league is tougher now than it was then. No, you just said it. No, no, you just said it, right? No, you just said it, no, you just said it. No, I'm not reneging. I'm not reneging. I call it spade to spade. Me really reneging. Listen, I got a book right here. Listen, listen, the league, man, if you watched the winning season, winning time. Winning time, yeah. Do you remember how hard they fouled back in the day? That's not basketball, though. Listen, this was happening. That's a part of basketball. Bro, you're what I'm talking about. If you come to the lane today, if you, man. LeBron is going against Bricks of Nature. Mine, man. He's a flopper. He's going against KD, going against Mike Yanis. Floppy, the Spurs. Floppy. Tim Donken, Tony Parker, Kawhi Leonard. He's going against nigga like that. He's scared of Kawhi, man. Kawhi, come on, man. Kawhi Leonard. The Spurs? He was scared of Kawhi. Who was Michael Jordan facing, though, also real shit? Who was he facing? Name me something his hardest competition. He was, he was. Penny Hardaway. Penny Hardaway. When he was young, then he was young. The pissed. The pissed? The whole team, the lay bird, all that. No, they ain't even saying teams. I'm saying name some of his hardest competition as players. Just name individuals. Guys, the league wasn't old enough to name. I don't remember them. I don't remember them. I remember Jordan, the goal, who won the six rings. Bro, that's just like. Who he played against? That's like niggas who were bragging on goddamn Jared West, then you go back and look at the film, like, what the fuck he playing against? Niggas who were built like me. You supposed to go pass that nigga. No, with Jordan, it was, look, Vince Young could fly. Right? With Jordan, was he playing? Vince Young was playing? Carter. Carter. Vince Carter was playing? Vince Carter. He could fly. No, no, what I'm saying is I'm not going back and saying. Vince Carter. The skill set. I'm saying skill set. It's not like. It's not like. It was one person who had a hot shot at the gym. And Vince Carter came after Jordan Finaleigh. Right. I'm just saying it was not like Jordan played with people here who had hops. Jordan played with people that had the same skill set. Who? We're not watching Bill Lambeer. I mean, is it not Bill Russell versus all these white dudes? No, but I'm saying who had some of the same skill set? I don't remember number two, man. I remember number one. Clyde, the next year was one. Clyde, the Clyde was a good one, bro. Akim, Elijah was one. You know, it's a good one, man. Dominique, OK, I give Dominique Wilkins. I give Clyde. No, it's because y'all from Atlanta, OK. Hey, look, it's hard to remember number two. They named it two or three niggas. We can name you 30 niggas. We can name you 30 niggas right now whoop or hoop. Like, neck or hoop in any era. And I can tell you none of them have six rings. It's because it's more competitive. It's more competitive. No, guys, I wouldn't say it's more skill. Niggas more talented now. It's more talent. But so because of Michael Jordan. I think it was harder. It's because of Michael Jordan. Everybody's better than Michael Jordan. Well, following the niggas don't make you play basketball better. No, no, listen, listen. Jordan make the whole game better. Jordan make everybody better. All right, y'all feel about John Murray. Yeah, switch it up, man. Yeah, switch it up. Because Jha is, Jha, let me tell you something. All right, so look. Jha, I love Jha. I mean, I'm going to tell you right now, I love Jha. I love what he represents. The problem is I blame rap music for what took place. I blame NBA young boy. I blame the music. It's just it's just the culture, you know what I'm saying? I blame the music. You know what I'm saying? I blame the music. The music is it's because of the music. It's what it is, man. It's like, you know, guys don't understand the difference right now between I blame the music and I blame Instagram. Because because he just from South Carolina to to to what he's doing right now. And then to go to straight to Memphis. To Memphis. That's hey, that's tough. That's tough. That's tough. Listen, it's tough to come to be in Memphis. They're going to they're going to make you feel like that's OK. Memphis is going to make you feel like it's OK to do what you're doing. Just keep doing it. And they're going to be with you until until you listen to you. Not that that may be true. Man, they turn around. Man, we're crazy. I told I tried to tell a little brother, man. I was trying to tell a little brother. He's just got to sit out. But what are you doing it, man? My nigga real, man. I'm doing the same shit. I'm going to fuck me. I'm going to pull these niggas up my hair. Yeah, that's what they're going to do. You know what I'm saying? But I thought my shit like John Moran. I'm in this shit like John. You know, there's no rap ball right now. It was about it was about, listen, literally that same day when John did that, it probably was a domino effect of about 800 Memphis niggas that were doing the same shit at the same time. In the same, in the same thing. All of them alive. All of them alive. Right up in the fitness form. What on right up in the fitness form? You know what I'm saying? Because you know, that just happened in Memphis, too. With the fitness form when they got shot inside there. It just it just ain't the right place for him. But he's learned now how to be able to deal with that. I think also, too, like just like being around your influences being all serious and it's like, OK, you in Memphis where we on fire right now. Music music. Yeah. And then it's not like we on fire for R&B music. You know what I'm saying? We're not on fire for being R&B capital. No, we're on fire for the drill, for the, you know, for the killings, for the, you know what I mean? Soon as the beat drops, we're gonna not stop. Exactly. So that's the vibe that we're on. So if that's calmly being put out there and you hanging with these cats and everybody you hanging with is all of everybody strapped up ready to go and a lot of them is in real wars is going on in Memphis right now between one side and the other side. I ain't saying no names, but that's happening. So it's like it just becomes your product of what you're seeing. It's OK. You know what I mean? So if any young, any first generation of doing what he's doing, like most of us, all first generation, learning how to do this, learning how to, you know what I mean? So, you know, Gressham Grace, he's a great player. I want him to take care of himself mentally and also physically to being able to learn how to, you know, he, he, John will go to that, to that hole and pause, but he'll go to that and just and just and just come on, man. Like, who down there? He don't care. You're doing that. I do think at some point in time, you got to like conserve like Jordan, Jordan, when he got older, he didn't dunk all the time. He was like, OK, I'm a bronze. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Well, you're 19. The first year. You're 21. 21. Who? You're still punching. Russell Westbrook. Yeah. He's still punching. We talking about him. He ain't got no names. Oh, yeah. Russell's a great player. I like Russell, man. Russell mentally just got to get it together. Mention when I went to see Memphis player against Oklahoma back in the day. And now, OK, see. And when he was playing with them and I was sitting there front row, right? All these folks at Lucas Oil Center and I'm wearing my Memphis stuff and I'm front row. One of my partners was a white dude, Cliff. Cliff was like five foot nothing but owned everything Oklahoma. So I'm sitting next to him. Here I am six foot five with all my Memphis. You know, I'm standing in front row. One of them told me behind me, sit down. I can't see. I turn around and say, you got to get better seats, buddy. You know what I'm saying? Straight up. I'm not. What do you mean? Sit down. So I'm sitting there and they beat us by like, they up by 30. Coastal Westbrook. I mean, come on, sit down, man. We want to conserve it. Westbrook has, through the chair, I'm talking about, y'all up by 30. It's over. That man through the chair was upset. I said, OK. See, that was a sign. Tell, tell a sign that it's not going to be no chips coming. Because mentally, mentally, you ain't, you ain't, you ain't, you're some awful little bit. You a few baskets, sort of a picnic. It's a little bit, you know what I'm saying? Y'all were trying to go back at the fans. You know what I'm saying? Like just another night, somebody came and said, man, you suck ass. Westbrook coming back at it. Trying to talk back to the fans. Bro, just like the rapper the other day, the rapper came out there and dude was trying to bang on him. He smacked him. Oh yeah, I saw that shit. I said, man. So what social media does the same thing that Memphis did with John Moran? Man, he ain't broke. He wanted to, he hard, but he smacked dude, he smacked dude. I tell you, it's too late. Listen, he keeps smacking his fans like that. He heckles like that. He's going to have their career going to be short in the middle of his knees. Your career going to be shorter than a mission on his knees or a little person on his knees if you do that. You know what I'm saying? Because you can't come back at every heckler who don't like what you got going on. But social media going to perpetuate it. Make you feel like it's OK. It's OK until it's not. But Marcus Martin, so do you think y'all got a chance winning a ring? Let me say something. I like the Marcus Martin pick. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. So you don't win in a ring? Dude, wait a minute. If last year, Steven Adams was hurt, it would have been a different situation. Come on, guys. Brandon Clark and Steven Adams was out last year. Do y'all saw how we handle Golden State? We be Golden State by 50. Guys, I'm going to be honest with y'all, man. Now I know the league is changing. It's changed now. But at that point in time, we could have did something. Now we get them. We're going to get our star back. Steven Adams is OK. Did we make that trade? Did we trade Clark? No, we still got him. OK. All right. OK, we might get rid of Clark. I think we need to make somebody. Y'all need one or two. We need another league, man. We need a three. Y'all need shoes. And a three. No, listen. We need a three. We need a three. We need a three. Dylan Brooks was there, man. Y'all have him. Man, he's playing that garbage bag, man. I like Lofton. Y'all like Lofton? Yes, yes. Lofton is good. He not ready yet, but he far. Listen, listen. He like to play him down. I'm a guy that goes to the Memphis. I went to the Memphis Hustle Games. Like, you know what I mean, the G-League game. OK, OK, OK. I go to those. So you went to the G-League. I'm really into the culture. Like, you know what I mean, it was going on. Lofton going to be all right. Lofton is going to be a surprise. This might be a breakout year for him. How you felt when Dylan Brooks interrupted LeBron's... He interrupted LeBron's. You know, LeBron, when really talking to the media and he just messed up his whole mental process. He poked the bird, man. He poked the motherfucking bell. He got eight, man. And I'm from Memphis, so it... And you knew I was going to have to. And you know I'm a Bron fan too. So you knew, you like, why you do that? Damn it. You know, you messed it up for us, man. He poked the bird. You know, and he poked the bird. I ain't never heard nobody say why. Why you poked the bell? Michael Jordan, you ain't never had to poke him. No, he poked the bear. He poked the bear. And... But that was the motivation that LeBron needed. LeBron, he didn't need that. No, yes, he did. See, he older. No, no. The crowd therapy and all that or whatever, it makes you look young. But at the end of the day... Oh my God. No, honestly, he needed some more motivation. He did. And he needed more motivation and Dylan Brooks gave him that. Dylan has more confidence than he has skill set. But he's pulled the pull-up. But he's pulling the move on Houston. And he's a rich op now. Yeah, he's gonna get some money. Hey, guys, everybody... Listen, now, and what he did to the... Fundamental. And what he did to the Canada. And what he did to that different Canada. He bought on the 3rd Street. He went in for the 40-piece. He put a 40-piece on the 3rd Street in USA. Talking big shit. Talking big shit. Now... So he originated from Canada. Yeah, he originated from Canada. He's Canadian. He's a Canadian. Y'all be knowing him, Nick, I ain't know Andrew Wiggins or what Canadians still got them. I don't think he'll be from up down. Do you feel like it's time for James Harden to go and sit down? Hell, yeah. Thank you, man. Man, I'm glad y'all in here. We just got to argue. Do y'all see James Harden being the top five Schoen Guard all-time? Never. Immediately, no. Thank you. Never. No. Thank you. Never, ever. No. No. Why are you looking at the name of the one? Name the one. Name the five. Michael Jordan. Kobe Bryant. Dwayne Wade. I said T-Mac. T-Mac, thank you. T-Mac. Don't sleep on T-Mac. T-Mac. The only two of us. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. So, wait a minute, is Steph, are we, Steph Point? That's a point. Yeah, they're going to say Steph Point. What about Clay? I say Clay, I put Clay in that store. Clay's a small forward. I put in, what? He's a small forward and he's not, he's not better than Harden. Yeah, bro, he's not. Hey, Harden got this. Wait a minute, Harden. Clay came to dribble, bro. But Harden's better than Harden. Harden, we in. Harden, you got it. Harden, we don't make you go. Harden got, Harden, listen. Harden holds the ball. Harden don't know how to pass. Harden holds the ball forever. Pause. And, and then just, it just. I put Reggie Miller in that too. You gotta put Reggie Miller in that. Yeah, you can't forget about Reggie Miller. You gotta put Reggie Miller in that too. Them niggas laugh at me with that body. I put Steve Kerr in that before I put up. Before I put up, I put Steve Kerr in that, man. Before I put that. When the Oregon Coast ain't looking for Klicks, man. They're looking for Klicks, man. Hey, hey. That was crazy. The game is over the field. Yeah. Y'all wild. I love that couple he said that though. They made a lot of sense too, man. Y'all fuck with Colorado then? Yeah, I like, I like, I like Colorado. I like, I fuck with Dion. You know what I'm saying? If you ain't rollin' with Dion, you a peon. You know what I'm sayin'? Dion, Dion, if you don't, there is no way. When I seen, I'm gonna tell you what I didn't like. I didn't like seeing Mace on the other side of that thing over there with a. With a prime hoodie on, you know, the USC sideline. Yeah, I saw it. But Mace has always been questionable to me. Yeah, man. Mace. You know, he's been, you're right, Mace. Yeah. He probably love that one. I don't know, man. Are you preaching? Are you, one minute you doing? I don't know. Mace probably love that. Mace probably love that. Trying to pull one, man. I didn't like that. But I'm gonna say that last game, the USC game. The USC game, the adjustments that they made. At halftime, yeah. At halftime. Showed you and everybody else that look, man. He got one more year. Shadoor? Listen, man. Shadoor. Shadoor accurate. Gamer. Listen. He live for the moment. You can tell. He wants it. He doesn't want it. Yeah, son. He better want it. Yeah. Listen. He wants the moment. He wants the ball. He wants to go. If they get a few office of linemen and a few more pieces. And they're gonna come in the portal. Listen. It's coming. Pause. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. They gonna be good next year. I'm excited about it. First of all, from 1 to 11 already, they've already 300% better this year. Oh, yeah, yeah. Already. And then the way they are bringing the whole culture there. Nigga. You gotta watch the Colorado game. Them niggas going to Colorado, bro. Nigga. I don't even watch Georgia games no more like. Nigga, I catch they highlights. Or I might make sure the big cover. Did everybody stay up and watch the game that was late night? Yes. Nigga's gonna watch that Colorado game. I've never watched a college game that I've never done that. Bro, and we don't have East Coast. I'm talking about me. I'm falling asleep. Bro, they gonna find a way to get it. Bro, they bowl game gonna be so lit. I don't care. These niggas in the son kids bowl game. They ain't gonna be in the funnel bowl game. Nigga, we going. They got to win three more games to be bowl-legible. Oh, they gonna get that easily. They gonna win in Arizona State. Yeah. Stanford. Yeah. Man, I'm gonna be in the cereal bowl. They gonna be somewhere, bro. Man, what? They gonna still be lit. They were down 41-14 with seven minutes left in the third and they came back only lost by seven. That's fine. Nobody expected them to be that close in general. Bro. Like, especially after how they got there. I was like, I ain't gonna waste my Saturday. I ain't gonna waste my whole Saturday. I think they proved the point. They proved it. Yeah. Like, okay. They might have lost, but like, come on, bro. Ain't nobody had them scoring that many points against UBC. Yeah. Especially that garbage that had O-Line, Colorado, your O-Line trash, man. It's trash. So, Cruz, the next year, please, D-U-N, get that shit together. They're like, yeah. If you're doing some rotation, it's problems. Because he is fighting the, he is the stigmatism of just a black quarterback running. Like, he's, he's going to... Oh, he in the pocket. He in the pocket. Hey, yeah. I think sometimes that's why I'm like, is he trying not to show, like, cause you can run, nigga. He don't want to, though. He don't want to. No, he broke off with that big run and touched it. Run, run. Yeah. And he's scoring a touchdown. Oh, no. Get out of bounds. I ain't never trippin' on that. What about Miller, though? What's his name? Omerian, the rookie? Omerian. Number 14. Right, right, right. Nigga, my new favorite player. My first time playing with that boy. Yeah. Yeah. My new favorite player. Nigga. I love when niggas just like, you know what I'm saying? You don't see them when they just like, like, nigga, I'm him. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm telling you. And you be waiting for that break. Yeah. Waiting for that look. Waiting for things to open up for you to be able to show people. Man, you can tell him watch film. That nigga does. That's not good. Throw his hand up. That's not good. You say that's not good. Some niggas don't know what they're looking at. It's niggas in there who can watch film all day, Marcel. If you don't know what to do when you get out on them motherfuckers, it don't make no sense. Just stay in the film room all day. Yeah, just get them acting coaches. All them niggas going to end up being there some assistant coaches. Because you know how to study film real good. Give me somebody who got them going to perform on that motherfucker's film. Yeah, they're not for sure. And when you're doing about that nigga, he ain't looking at nobody else. Yeah, not for sure. He averaged like 28 yards of kids. Seven kids is 190 yards. Hey, did you see that one? He missed that two-point conversion because they said he was out of bounds. But did you see that catch? Yeah. Anything you throw in that nigga, hey. On the ground, whatever. Yeah. Yeah, Marcel wanted the nigga to watch film. Nigga, that take away from what he doing. The D.O. wanted to watch film, though. D.O. said, man, D.O. said... You want to go to the next-level watch film. D.O. said... D.O. wanted them to... You saw that guy, he like, Nigga, do what you got to do. D.O. said, fuck the hours, though. Just show up, Saturday. What the hell is this game? What do you mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Throw that nigga to the ball. D.O. I ain't gonna see that nigga to a Saturday. Saturday what? Take a week off. Come to Saturday. Do what you do. Do what you been doing to keep you focused. You ain't been in the film room. I ain't gonna be playing for the team, man. What? That number 14, the first catch he made, I was like, all right. You know what I mean? Second, I was like, oh, shit. We might have got one right here. Man, when that nigga scoped and he jumped up, I said, oh, yeah. You can tell how somebody celebrated, whether it was luck or not. That nigga got up like, I told you, motherfucker. I ain't up. And the nigga who get up and want to keep the motherfucker and get it signed, nah, nigga, that might be your last one. That nigga know, I'm gonna be getting these motherfuckers as long as you keep me on the field. That's true. That's true. That is true. That's very true. Yeah, that's very true. Y'all both play sports? Yeah, I played quarterback. Oh, shit. I played quarterback. I just gotta say, I'm gonna lie to you, man, that quarterback is a hard job. You just get hit all the time, man. You know what I mean? I just get hit all the time. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not... Nah, I throw this damn ball at them. Hey, pause it. And he's saying, like, full time. Hey, you said a ball. He can't go out there, man. Listen, listen, listen. Listen, pause words into the junior. Listen, I think you gotta be built for that. You gotta... Your body getting hit all the time. Stop with the pauses, man. You taking those... Taking that abuse as a quarterback. That nigga scared to talk. Nah, shit. He done fucked it up, man. It's too much. Nah, it's too much. It's too much, though. Nah, it's too much, bro. It's too much. Like, I would get hit in my knee, and then the linemen, they there on block for you. I'm not concerned. I'm not gonna be like your boy from New York, like y'all quarterback. I'm cussing folks out. This was high school? Yeah, this was junior high school. Then another thing, too, when they got to high school, the players got bigger. For sure. I was like, man, I'm like, man, look. That would stop me, man. It's a toss, bro. Yeah, listen, toss. First of all, I was 5'9", 5'9", 5'10", when I graduated. I grew 6", when I graduated from high school. What? I grew 6", after I graduated. And the boys shit, and they cap, but my sister, Jessica, Jessica Jackson, she had a growth spurt. When she was in the 7th grade, she said football. What? Every scholarship. How bad she did? She ended up going to Florida, where T bought them down there. Oh, really? And it was like, she got every scholarship received me at 5'9", 5'10". I had it in me, but it just, I just... You couldn't see over the line, type of. I mean, and getting hit, and these dudes is, man, I'm from Memphis, so it's like, you know, just like Georgia. Some of these country folks out here, man, is big. And it's like, man, you tell them, you get hit a couple of times, man. You miss a block. Okay, bro. All right, bro. Guess what? He hit me again. I'm hitting you. You know what I mean? That's it. I'm not finna sit here and keep getting hit like that. Cause look, bro, high school and Georgia, when we watch our high school teams in the city area, they be straight. But today, gotta go down South Georgia. Yeah, it's different. And play them teams. They been wrestling in halls. Yeah. In cows. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Who's like that? Who never lifted weights? Maybe to order for some of y'all, but Bo Jackson. Oh, yeah, yeah. We know Bo Jackson. Bo Jackson. It was just a physical specimen of just, then just run up and do everything. But I just don't remember watching him. You know, like I saw his NFL games, you know, by the end, he had some injuries and stuff like that. Yeah. But he was one of those, but it was a lot of guys like that, like Memphis, when you go outside of Memphis and you start going to Tennessee and Brownsville and all these things. Listen, man, these folks out here, bro, it's just too much. What Bo was originally from? Bo was from, he's from Alabama. Oh, he did? Yeah, both Alabama. Yeah, both Alabama. But yeah, man, it was started off as a quarterback and doing that. And then I just went to basketball because the basketball's a little more finesse, but still without having the height, you know what I'm saying? It was just, then I got tall after I graduated. Man, that shit happened to Dennis Rodney. Y'all ever saw his story? What happened? That nigga grew like eight, nine inches after high school. He was like seven inches in his freshman year at New Coast. It's crazy. Yeah. Dennis was like five, ten, I want to say five, eleven in college. Then he just kept growing. That's crazy. I had got a viral meningitis when I was a senior. So it was like, even when I took the, my growth stroke started to happen, after they started messing with my spine, bro, it was like, I was done with it. I was like, I had to learn how to walk again. So it was like, you know what, I'm not even finna mess with the sports no more or whatever and stuff. So it was like, that was over with me. When you getting into the music? Right when that happened. Like right when I was like, I was doing tapes and stuff back in fourth grade. I used to have mixed tapes out when you take one, you know, back in the day you had these re-rails, right? It used to be on two tape decks and you could record one side and play some on the other side and record each other. I was making tapes off of that. And I used to make tapes this and my brother, my cousin them and I used to be cussing on them, John. When they heard me cuss on the tapes, they was like, you heard a kid? What are you doing? You know what I'm saying? It would be different if I'm cussing the house. They would be mad. But on the tapes and me doing making music, they respected my, I guess my artistry. Yeah, they feel like you're supposed to do it on there. And it was like, and I said, oh, it's a difference. So I felt like that was dope to be able to be supported. I was an outlet to be able to do stuff. So I was doing music the whole time and then Tony Draper who signed A-Ball M-J-G, his brother Ernest Draper was like the man, you know what I mean, on the street or whatever. And he's, I used to have this clothing store that I used to be a, right, it was kind of like how city girl was. Like now, and I used to have the poppin store and he used to be in there and they used to bring Barling G in there and I used to be a young nigga rolling with them seeing how they getting that money with their music. And then he's like, okay, now I want to rap because I'm seeing people actually get deals and do stuff. They inspired me earlier and my best friend in high school was just a cat named Eric Gales. He played a backwards track guitar. He's like one of the dopest guitars to this day. He does tours with Lauren Hill. He was my best homie and he going on our single house show and all that. I'm like, man, okay, you can do something. So this is all around me. I'm like, this is possible. You know what I'm saying? Because that's a lot of times you got to see something to be able to be something. And it's like if you see somebody around you really doing it, it's like, okay, well, I don't just- You realize it's only you stopping it? Yeah, yeah. I don't just got to move. I didn't feel like, okay, my dreams deferred because I got meningitis and I had to learn how to walk because they had to do the spinal tap and that shit went wrong way. And I had to, it was just different. So I had to like, I feel, I was like, shit, that shit around. But all the J.G. them breaking, niggas from the mile away getting deals and stuff like that. So I was like, okay, I can do it too. So that kind of inspired me to start doing music and then like, and then taking it from a business perspective. Tony Draper would always school me. You got to hone that shit and you go select those hits and put your own shit out. You know what I mean? And that's what Three Six Mafia was doing, putting our record through select those hits, was a distributor at Memphis, was putting the CDs out. It was in our backyard. You go out with them road and go over to tell them if you want to distribute some CDs, you can put your own thing out. And this was like Tommy Wright and all Skinny Pimp and everybody like that was doing. So once again, I'm seeing some and I'm seeing what I could be able to do and I'm seeing the way to be able to own it and do it. So it was more leg work to be able to get people to be able to go to the store and buy your music. That's why I think the people that are in music right now is different. I think the fan bases are just not as, the fan root is not as strong because the people that came up from that era of CDs and they're the people who are running the gang right now. Like, okay, you say Yo Gotti is doing this thing, right? Well, the people that supported Yo Gotti used to get in the car and go drive down the street and go buy a CD. So the life out might put out, you know what I'm saying? How the fans would like... You had to go get that. Yeah, you had to go get that. So those people if you look at like Gucci Man or you look at these people that are like Jay-Z, you know what I mean? All the people that are winning have these... Even Beyonce, they have bases that went to go buy their music out of the car. That's true. That's true. You know what I'm saying? So if they co-sign you, yeah, you know what I mean? They have a strong base of people that follow them. You know what I'm saying? That's why I love what y'all do so much y'all do so much y'all really go out and y'all touch the people. Even though we're doing a broken play and doing this show, it's like y'all actually go press the flesh. And they'll see it. And they see it and y'all be a fan root. That's how you really do something. Because if it's... I don't have a lot invested with you if I can just... Oh, okay. This song I heard today I just examined it. Oh, it's just bumping, okay? You got to keep coming. A lot of times coming pause to be able to be like, okay, I'm into you. Now, you know, it's just different. You know what I mean? It's just different. It's different. It's different. So look, what about like with Zach Randolph? Like somebody like him when he was in the city. It was because like he was in the country and he was him about where the bag was. Shout out to Head. Head is Moneybags CEO. Uh-huh. Head and Randolph, Xevo will be always be together. Head was the one that was holding Xevo down wherever he went to. Like, you know what I mean? Xevo always was a real guy, but he was also a guy of the culture. So he's like, you know, he can't remind me like Steven Jackson, you know what I'm saying? Like Xevo is kind of like that kind of a baller. Like where he like, you know, really being in great shape with the culture. So Head will be around me when I'm putting out Yo Gotti and doing records with me. Yo Gotti, A-Ball and Skinny Pym and putting out, he was around. So he's peeping all this is going on and then he got the plug. He got Xevo, you know what I mean? Who worth more than Xevo paying people for the Memphis life. He just was there. He's a real good dude. So he gives Head the ability to be able to start the label endless entertainment and they picked up bag. You know what I mean? And from there, it just didn't. It went crazy. It went crazy because with music, if you got a bag has a different voice. Yo Gotti has a different voice. I always say like even when I was doing I think on the rap side it's like having a different voice that you recognize. I think that's part of it of being having a different voice, not sounding the same as you listen to music. So it's like, you know, you listen to it. So if your voice is is a main key. Then when you got a bag to put with the music because at that time it's like you could be online and doing all that stuff but it's something different than when you really having it and you can put it in people's face. Once again, pressing the flesh making fans. That's what bag number do. Bag number goes to the fairs and pass out CDs, pull up in them cars, Xevo put all them cars out and make that impression and touch those people. And that's how he came up and like, you know, and now they, they up up. You know what I mean? Memphis like music just, I remember this probably like 2015, 2000, this before bag really popped. Yeah. I remember it was our homeboy Terrio. He used to try to get me and like he'll tell us me fly all us about money bag. Yeah. So but like Terrio like he, like if he know you, he gonna play all your music. So anybody, like anybody else, like we, I never really listen to whoever you talking about. He was like, man, you got to listen to money bag. I never check it out. I check that shit out on my own. I was like, oh no. He rock. This nigga like that. He rock. I was like, nigga, you won for 30. He won for 30. This nigga like that. No, bag bag is raw. Bag voice is raw. Memphis is good about, like I said, having good vocals, voices. Think about it. Glorilla. I produced it. It's just one goal. Shout out to that. Man, for sure. That shit in there. But like, you know what I'm saying? Like she, but she got that voice. Like her voice is just different. You know what I mean? Dolph had a different voice. Yeah. Key Glock has a different like tone and voice when he go do his thing and his hype and his turn. Black Youngster has had a different twang with what he's doing. Like, I just think like Memphis is full of different voices. You know what I mean? Memphis is full of different voices. And I think if you got that going for you and in the beats, a lot of things with Memphis is the beats. Memphis has always had the beats. Y'all, I don't since 3-6. Yeah. Even 8-4, MJ's been led down. Yeah. Always had the beats. We always had the beats and these beats were from Memphis producers that are really from the streets of Memphis. So the sound was done with Memphis. So now you got like Hit Kid. You know what I'm saying? Who's doing this thing? You got these niggas up for a while now. From Memphis? Yeah. He's from Memphis. Zantay Keith is from Memphis. So you got these great producers that are making records from Memphis. That's why my guy right here had the wrong pain. He, we just got, we got a gentleman, we got Nellie Chopper, New John Cummins. That was him. Simba. We like, I like Simba too if y'all call him. Simba's ill. We got him on the podcast last season and we got a record with him. Oh my God, bro. This record is crazy. But like, you know, he's a producer and he raps and he does the podcast. So you got multiple hustles. So it's like, How y'all, how y'all joined up to do the podcast? I picked him up back when he was at Tennessee State. He was a 19. He had a song. Oh, he was at TSU. He went to TSU. Okay. He had a song called a Hardhead. It was like a dance that was popping back in the day. And I went up to the budget. It was like, man, I'm trying to take his dance and go on and get this done out here or whatever. I said, I can help you with it. Put it on BET. I was back when one of the people part was still going on. And in New Jersey the other day, he popped the job off of TSU. You know, they took off of TSU and he was performing with the band. Oh, yeah. That band shit, that's different. Yeah. Shout out my boy Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But he couldn't, he making them beats. So I would get them beats. Like he had a song with plays. We did Bu Dirty and Dunn Trip. He always had beats. Oh, Nigga's thing on Dunn Trip was live, bro. Dunn's hard. Dunn's hard. Yeah. Jelly Roll. He did a producer record with me in Jelly Roll. Jelly Roll is the number one country artist out now. You know what I'm saying? But it's like we did a rap song with like I've been going we've been back. So it was like once he once he moved to to here in Atlanta, it was like, all right, bro, let's go ahead and like, you know what I mean? Put it together. But I'll always be used to be able to God help me use me to help people all the time. Right. They craft or whatever. And I'm cool with being that individual, whether it was your God, the first album, whether it was, you know, whether it's producers getting them placements or whatever. I love doing that. You talk a lot about LeBron like you are all the world. Yeah. I like you all the world. You want to be with running? Okay. Yeah. Listen, I think like the thing is I'm one is too close to none. I know that I'm always wise, open about like music. I would even when I was an artist, it was like, God bought this to me. It was like, okay, bro, you feel like you got a record deal with Universal Motown. The same time I sent a tape being a rap city. And the rap, the tape was just saying, y'all should do y'all show like this and I feel like y'all should do this. My own folks flip. They said, we want to talk to you about what you sell in this tape and we want to fly you out. I says, don't worry about it. I'm flying myself out. I came out with Stephen Hill, and they said, you want to host rap city? I was like, yeah. So I host rap city for like a month, right? But when I went to meet with Sylvia wrong at my first record label meeting after we, you know, that sign, I said, hey, I'm for the host rap city. I'm for the host rap city. You can't host rap city. They don't think you a host. You a rapper. You can't be known as a host. You know what I'm like? So they, they, I end up doing like two weeks worth of episodes when Rick Ross first came in and all that. And they told me I could take the job. But really at that point, I was like, man, it's TV shit. Really easier. Yeah. Than the rap shit. You know what I'm saying? And my face, they put my face, one thing to hear a voice and like, you can't put a face to it. Yeah. But it's like. And you're reaching all markets. Yeah. And I was like, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, I just knew that. Okay. It's cool. You're going to be hot for music and you always had your family with the people that love you for what you do. But man, being in that hot seat for music, man, you can always be in a hot seat, but you can be able to make money off your turn, your contacts in the contracts. And that's what I always knew I could do. You know what I'm saying? If I could be able to say, okay, cool bag, hot right now. Shit bad. I ain't feeling to come safe. Man, bad. Let's do a record with Keer Sean. You want to sample one of my old records? Or here's some new beats. You know what I'm saying? Glow here. I got a beat that I feel like a work for you. I'm not going to try to make you get on my rap shit. Make your contact. What you saying? Make your contact. Turn your contacts in the contracts. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, that's because it's really the people you know in that you connected. We can talk to anyway. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. We should do business. Yeah. It's like, because it's like, I'm going to take his spiritual because I have to do it every time. But bro, whatever you need from God. All right. He's not here. He going to make some brand new out the sky. Boom. What it is, it's going to come through a person. The blessing you looking for, the thing you looking for is going to come through a person. So that means it's a connect. It's a contact. So that contact will turn into a contract. So it's like, okay. Have favor with people. Be connected with the source, which is God. So he can provide your resources. A lot of time people be thinking, it's them. Okay. I'm, I'm so talented. It's about you being connected with the source, listening to his voice. And he'll give you the resources. Okay. And if one resource close out is okay. He going to bring another resource, another source. I praise the blessor, not the blessing. Cause I know the blessings can come and go. I don't know some niggas who went to jail over that 2010 escalator, whatever Corvette, you had to have it. Right. Now that, now it's 2023. You could be cold head in there. You don't want to be in there. Exactly. You praise the blessing. You praise in the blessing. I'm praising the blessor. You know what I'm saying? So that'd be more of my thing. So I don't have no, like no, no pride in, like, okay. I'm not popping on this side. Man, I'm going to go do something over here. I started a podcast. I do anything else. Yeah. I'm moving. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not sitting still. I ain't doing that, bro. I like that. Anything that's not growing is dying. I heard y'all talking about like, you know what I'm saying? Like who y'all taking peak? Do y'all fault the price peak? Yeah. Like, listen, I'm new. I'm new to the price picks. I'm new to the thing. I lost a lot. You know what I'm saying? Like, join us. Listen, I've been losing. And it's like, now I see. It really, it makes you, it makes you, it makes the games fun or though. That's the only way I can watch it. Listen, now, now I have to have an NFL resume. Y'all have to owe me a check. Because I swear, I keep bragging about this. I can't watch NFL without NFL resume. Yeah. Instead of you put the price picks with it. I got to see all my games. I didn't see everything going on. I didn't see everything going on. Man, I choked my little nephew off the other day. I'm watching the game. It's a blowout. He was like, this game, I said, man, you don't shut the fuck up. I went for one more catch. Yeah. Yeah. One more catch. I watched it. Listen, shut out the price picks. No, listen, listen, I want, I want doing the playoffs That's how they get you. You win one time. That's when it got me. You're a drug addict. First, I was just like, okay, I think he's going to have, he's going to have this. Watch this. That's easy. Easy. Man, listen, LeBron, LeBron punk. He made me so mad last year. That's why I don't like him. And I came back and LeBron has, he just had to hit another layer. I said, man, I said, man, like, sometimes I be wondering, are y'all trying to come? Sometimes I'm going to sit down early for no reason. No reason. No reason. Bro, I see one nigga, I forgot who it was, bro, they had him getting one and a half done. I'm like, oh, that's all he do. Right, right. Shit. I'm talking to me, had a wild over and done, didn't think I thought he was Michael Jones. Do you know what I mean? Don't do that. Don't do that. Oh, I'm strong. Hey, oh, I forgot to mention this. It's a good show to mention this. So last year, right, you know, I got a, my wife has a non-profit, autismadvocates.org. Okay. We different, not less blessed by the best. It's inclusion. It's for these kids, man, who, we speak a voice for the voice list because my son is non-speaking, but he's, but he's, he communicates. But he could like, he communicates. He communicates. He communicates. He communicates, but like, so I do stuff like, okay, Grizzlies was like, every time the Grizzlies have, like this year, I'm doing two things at the Grizzlies, like doing a season. We have like a social media night and then we have you, where I'm playing, we have time, I'll play at half time, like an all-star game, like an all-star game, why they don't have time of a real game. Oh. I actually get a chance to go out there on the court and play. You know what I'm saying? You know, you know, I wanted to be a hoop anyway, so I love doing it. So we doing it again this year in March of 24th, March 13th. But, so last year, I said, okay, I'm going to go to these new merch for autismadvocates. So I said, I'm going to go to the front row so I get TV seats and put me on the jumbo tron and all that or whatever. So people could buy merch. So John Moran had heard his, had heard his, his hand last season, whatever, right? So he coming out, you know, and he came out to have everybody. So I just, I did a fist pump, but I did it and it was taken in. And it hurt. It hurt. Damn. Do you know what's that? Overtime is a, is a, is a website, Instagram. Man, I'm gonna tie my ass up on overtime, bro, because I had to adapt to him. You could tell that it, and he did it like, he did it like, he did it like, he did it like, he did it like, he did it like, I was like, I feel like, I was like, damn, I should have done that. And you know what, I was like, why people don't, that's when you make them mad. Why the fuck would he do that? All right. Listen, I did that shit and me like regret it. I was like, damn, I should have done that. But maybe nothing, catch that. They caught that shit. Man listen, he immediately had shit on overtime. Like it was like, In the fact he did it. He did it right here. I was like, damn, but he did make it up. Cause I was like, I was like, damn, I wanted to know how you feel about it. And then after the game, we won this shit. You know what I'm saying? He came back over to me and he had to adapt me and hug me and whatever and shit. I was like, all right, cool. Like cause I, I really, I bet they ain't post that one. Listen, listen, it didn't hurt that much. No, it's definitely, but I was definitely like, damn, but they called it though. I had a little GoPro on me. I was filming with a GoPro. And before it was like, man, what are you kind of camera? They had a little bit of motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? Catching everything though. But I love that that front, that being right there in the game, I was talking about LeBron. I was talking about LeBron. Right. Before we get out here, tell me some shit. You tell me a couple like your, your stories where you be like, I went too far there. I was like, I was like, I was like, I went too far there. Oh, man. Shit. How many of them? I'm talking, talking. Okay. I got one on tape and I was, and I'm going to send it to you when we get through with this. All right. So, so I went to there. I said, my, my breast is so cleft. He passed away now, but I met this cool white dude. You're sitting in the plane. You know what I mean? And we talked about life and love and all that. You know, you meet somebody on the plane. It's cool. Yeah. You know what? God want me to show you this, bro? He showed me his phone. He said, man, I just sold my company today, man. I sold it for 38 million and he's looking to show me Bank of America. I was like, I got Bank of America. I'd never seen a million numbers. God damn. You know what I'm saying? I'm looking like that. And he was like, he said, bro, if Memphis make the playoffs, I want you to come see me in Oklahoma. So that, that year, Memphis make the playoffs. So that's when Tony Allen and Zebo was playing. Yeah. Okay. That's when, so I go out there to the joint right. And I got, you know, I took my wife with me or whatever and shit. We sit in front row. You know what I mean? And we sit in with Cliff. So, you know, Memphis, you know, there's a gang going on. I'm revving for Memphis. So I'm like, I'm talking cash shit on the sideline. They call a foul on my player. I'm getting up, nigga, right there was no foul and shit, right? And then, so bam, the ranch go to the free throw line and get ready to shoot. It is quiet like that. Hush challenge. Because you and they are reading. Yeah. I mean they are reading. It's mute. I said, direct, miss it, miss it. We can have a nigga like that. Listen, that man turned to me and said, like that, right? Okay. Bam. That started the whole fucking team. Man, them four went on a fucking run. They would be, you know, beat us by 20. We're about 20. Every time somebody shot a three, they ain't hard enough. In my face, you know what I'm saying? Not every, the Westbrook do something. They come right to me. You know what I'm saying? I'm talking about like, cause you front row, they hit you. And I said it with my wife. I'm like, all right, y'all just spank me one more time. I don't want these niggas. My wife sitting right here, man. Cut this shit out, man. I don't know what I'm saying. But I went, So, he turned to said. That man hit the free throw, looked at me and said, I put the whole team by your hand. And I mean, the whole team. Man, they probably, they probably laugh so hard in the locker room about that shit. Out of the game, they got me up and shit though. And it was love, but I'm sure they did. Yeah, they needed you to do that. Man, they got, they got that in addition. One thing, yeah. Them folks got on my ass. Poked the bear, man. I poked the bear. Boy. And them folks, man, I can see, I got the shit on film. I'm talking, I'm talking to the ref so damn bad on the calls and shit, man. Yelling and shit and all that, whatever the shit, bro. Them folks got on my ass, bro. It was like, Yeah, man. That probably been your favorite Memphis team, you were saying? Zebo, these bro like, he's just a doll. Niggas forgot about how good Tony Allen was. Yeah, the Zebo was just, I know. I got Tony Allen 2.0 with Marcus Smart, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you legit did this shit. Yeah man, sinner, Peckery, start up. Despite you. I understand you father. I think Syram Miller we better than... Check that man, OK. All right. Let's wrap it up. No, no, man, we appreciate I can't afford to push up all of the man, to be right yeah we don't yeah yeah yeah we just did a deal but we're gonna be the first podcast over there on to be so you see a season season one on to be then we come back with season two over there and then we got some real some other other surprises coming man so we're gonna keep this part I love what we are doing as podcasters and and what we control in our narrative we the news we the media you know I'm saying how we want to say we want to say it man y'all have pulled up and who's in Memphis to Carlos Miller yeah Carlos Carlos Miller man all right that's good man man when Carlos did the podcast with y'all and just drop y'all dropping Jim like left and right it be shit like that that people don't see where's like you know I'm saying you gonna get the comedy you gonna get the rap you gonna get all this what we talking about but sometimes you gotta hit a real shit with me and just sit down and just talking about life you know it's bigger than just like sports all that type of shit how y'all explain how y'all men and certain shit niggas watching like we just like them nigga and I'm looking at y'all building over here too man hey hey man I love it man it's inspiring it's inspiring bro it really is bro like you know I mean it truly is bro but my mom used to have my mama birthday was today you know I'm saying her heavenly birthday and she's telling me this birthday heavenly birthday you hang around nine broke people you be the 10 person broke you hang around nine people that's getting to it you gonna be a 10 person getting to it so it's like look around see you around I'm around this one I'm around so get what it's contagious I gotta fall into it gotta fall into it you know how many shows I don't got cuz they couldn't afford