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So we are about to get started with this session on DHS to impact stories. We have some people joining us online, which is great. And we have. One lovely participant here in Oslo and hopefully others coming. So the idea for this session is to talk about. How to. Craft share. Stories about the impact of DHS too. So we're both going to talk about that a little bit. We're going to talk about what is impact and DHS to context. And then we're also going to hopefully get started. From people who are here today. So people who want to be interviewed and. Have their presentations recorded. We can then. I'd go through the process of talking about DHS to impact. Life. So I've also got Alice with me who's going to do some. Assistance in French. Especially for interviewing. And then we will. See what we get. So to get started. I guess the main question is why, why is it important to show the impact of DHS too? So we have a few ideas here. Different audiences who might care about the impact of DHS too. So. Especially in our case for his UIO, his center. We do a lot of dialogue with donors and donors increasingly want to see the real world effect of their investment in DHS too. Not just the activities that have been carried out and the systems that have been implemented, the training that's been done, but what that has resulted in. So. If the goal is to strengthen the health system in a given country, how do we show evidence that that is actually happening? So. That's a key goal of creating a sort of impact story about that activity there. Similarly for people in the ministry of health or other program managers or project managers. The decision to use or continue using DHS too. It's frequently based on the idea of whether or not it is a effective solution. So. So. If the goal is to strengthen the health system in a given country, how do we show evidence that that has actually happened through these activities? That's a key goal of creating a sort of impact story about that activity there. So. So. So. The more effective successful platform. And so the more you can show that it is achieving its goals, the more likely those people are to continue to choose or choose DHS too as a, as an option. A different perspective is for the implementer community. We talk a lot about sharing and best practices, but how do you know what a best practices? Part of that is showing what the outcome of an implementation has been. So people can see it and see what it achieved. And how it's been able to present it. And then also to find out whether or not it's effective. And how that's been able to borrow from or learn from. Based on whether I was able to achieve its goals. And finally, this is a research component. And this is a fairly cyclical. And it's not just about. Informing researchers of what might be worth researching, but also looking at research to then determine where impact has been. We see a lot of impact using a lot of research using DHS to data. whether or not a certain program actually was effective based on the analysis of, for example, programmatic outputs that DHS2 contributed to. So here we have a few examples. What do we mean by impact? This is just some general categories, data completeness quality. I put a lot of quotes in here that you can see as like sample ideas, ways you could frame this in a text. Obviously, this is very generic, but you can see we're talking about a variety of things. It's not just reporting. It's also things like efficiency improvements, reducing workload, decision making, programmatic outcomes. These are all different categories of things you could potentially measure or potentially identify through a process of evaluating how DHS2 implementation worked due to deceiving its goals. Here I've kind of simplified it down to the bottom. You have to say what happened, what was done with DHS2 or through your work, how DHS2 helped achieve that, and finally, and most importantly, why that is important. It's not enough to just say that something happened. You have to translate that into a meaningful achievement for people so they understand what it was. So one question you can always ask yourself when you're trying to frame an impact story is so what? So if you say, okay, we trained 100 people to use this reporting form, okay, so what? What did that help them do? How did that improve the efficiency of the project or say completeness improved by X percent? Why is that important? What does that help people do with the data that's being reported? You have to take that extra step to go from what was achieved into what it means and that translation into meaning is what's most important for the audience, especially for a non-technical audience. They have to have you tell them what the significance of what was done is, okay, and then just some notes on ways to potentially document DHS2 impact. Some of these are internal, some of these are external. I think that if you're looking to create something from the start, you've got to really start documenting your process from the beginning and think about what you want to capture from the start. So getting good notes, what are the goals, what are the activities you're doing? What are the outcomes of those activities? That's crucial because that material will help you then create something later on. Formal reports, that's usually a part of the project. You have to report out to the funder on what you did. We encourage people to make COP posts, community practice, to share stories. We use that frequently as source material for writing impact stories that go onto the DHS2.org website. So if you're active on the COP and if you share your information on the COP, that's a great way for us to find it and then help you get more visibility for a project in the larger community. Impact stories are a lot of what we produce. Those go on the DHS2 website in a category and we try to go for a fairly broad diversity of projects, regions, subject areas. And then we have a few others here. Obviously, we do encourage people to also promote their work in other media, including outside of the DHS2 community per se. So external blog posts, presenting at different conferences, hosting webinars, joining webinars. These are all ways you can reach audiences and also help to increase the visibility of your work and DHS2 as a platform. So let's see what we have next. Okay, so this is just a quick summary from our perspective, how you can go about creating a good impact story. And by good I mean something that is detailed, meaningful, and concise, and gets the point across. So impact stories as it says here, this is our primary channel for communicating the importance of DHS2. We do share these on our website and we do also promote them with our donor audience, with other international audiences. And we do have a fairly large leadership. We have about 14,000 people on our mailing list. We highlight our new impact stories on our newsletter every month. And some of those get picked up by other organizations like UNICEF, international health organizations, then we'll frequently invite the people who are behind those impact stories to join things, webinars to share the stories further. So it's a good way to also get involved in these international communities and international conversations by having a work publicly visible and available. So we are very open to stories from the community, from the history groups, from ministries of health, from other organizations using DHS2. If you're willing to share the material with us, we can help shape it into a story for the audience. So some steps. Like I said in the last slide, mapping out your goals before you start the project so you know what you're trying to accomplish and maybe how to write about it when you get to the end. Documenting your work, keeping track of details, taking photos, getting screenshots. All this material makes the story more interesting. If you have visual resources, you can add to it when you're done. Especially if you're approaching this from a technical perspective, making sure you have a good link to the program team that you're working with so you understand what their goals are for the project and then you know how you can measure if they've achieved them or not and what a meaningful measurement of success would be. Finally, once you've got through all these steps for kind of preparatory steps, writing a COP post, as I mentioned, is a good way to document your work publicly and including a lot of these details. And then we would work with you on the last step, which is shaping that into a more public story for a general audience, for a non-technical audience. Okay, so then we just have a screenshot of our website. Some of the more recent impact stories there. And we're going to go into some hopefully live interviews today. We have a few people here who can essentially tell us about their DHS2 work. But first, any questions on the presentation so far? Any thoughts? Any ideas? No. Okay, so then I think we are going to do one or two interviews maybe. DHS2 Director for Study and Programmation at the Ministry of Health of IT. So we will do this first interview. Yes, Grant, maybe if you want to have to put the microphone on, we agree it will be great. Thank you so much. So Rudi, how are we going to proceed? You're going to put this microphone and you're going to, yes, you're going to come over because you are the star for five minutes. So we are so pleased to have a highly among our participants. So as I was saying, Rudi is the Deputy Director for the Department in Charge of Study and Programmation at the Ministry of Health in IT. So hi, Rudi. Hi. So this is going to be a short but very impactful interview, if I can say. So I'm going to ask you two key questions. Are you ready? So we're going to do this interview in English first and probably later on during the day we'll do another one in French and in Spanish. So basically, are you ready, Grant? Yes, we are. So my first question would be very simple. What does DHS2 mean to you? I mean for him. So I think that DHS2 means for all students good governance. So I will explain how to explain. So if you can control your information of the country, you can control the system. So with DHS2, we have indicated that it helps us to access the program, that information. And then I will make, resume the initial three keywords, collaboration, and the collaboration, integration first, that helps us to... The next question, they have one point. So the most important thing to make sure that you have everything you need to think is to start by saying where it is and where you are. And then you have your answer. There's one smooth signal. Well, she introduced me to that. Yeah, but her camera really needs to say it's really clear who you are, where you work, and what DHS2 means to you. Yeah. My name is Tomino. I'm working for the unit of the study and planning unit of DHS2. So the first question is what DHS2 means. And I insert, it's that means for us to be good governance. And if you can control the information of the country, you can control the system. So with DHS2, we have been able to develop to make assessment of the program, that help us to to see the performance of the system and to assess that intervention. So our the meaning of the DHS2 in three keywords, collaboration, collaboration, and coordination. Integration. So our DHS2, we have another overview of technology, maybe. So, and then we, we, we, we, we can, we can, we can order a database and make integration within the opportunity between two or three databases. Coordination. So that, of course, to coordinate more intervention inside the ministry before every program comes with this whole database. What now the first question is, the first question is, if I can use DHS2 to make this. So how we can process individual data or we get data? Yeah. Yes. So if it's known, or the first question, it's possible to make an anti-operability between these new databases and DHS2. Because the DHS2 is the easy part of the data we use to share or have data. Thank you so much. And the final one is, what is the impact of DHS2 concretely? The impact of the DHS2 is a change of behavior inside of DHS2, outside of DHS2. Because all the donors are using the DHS2. So and then for each programming easy, so they, they come to see right now the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the that is, we are not going to develop all the data. So we have the DHS2. We make a motion about the DHS2. Every, every, every one inside of DHS and outside of DHS1. I'm talking about outside of New Zealand, I'm talking about partners, donors, and other signals. When we discuss about new data about new indicators, the first question is which platform that we will use to make it. So we have the agency and then we can use the agency to make the coordination between all the programs in the ministry and then in outside the ministry. So this is why I'm talking about the change of behavior in hand, with the impact, with the first impact that we are going to have with the agency. Even though we still make advocacy to use data for this meeting, it's a challenge. So you have enough time playing here on cards, you're sorry, to promote the use of the agency. Thank you so much for you. Thank you. All right, so by the way, I'm just joining us. Thank you. We had a short presentation on explaining the impact of DHS2, which if you missed it live, you can watch the recording later. We've recorded this on Zoom and now we're doing short interviews for people who want to share a DHS2 story, which we're going to record. So if we have any other volunteers who would like to talk to us about what DHS2 means to you or the impact of DHS2 has been in your project, we'd really like to love it if someone would come up and talk to us about that. Anyone have something they want to share? All right, I'm just going to put this microphone on you. And Grant will tell you where to stand so you look great on camera. And Alice, we're going to just stand over here so we're not blocking the, we're just over here is good. That way she can look at us and they can see her. For those of you who are interested in conducting interviews yourself someday, this is a common interview technique. We don't have the person stared right through the camera. You have them stare off to the side to an interviewer who is carrying out the interview, just a typical documentary style filming. So insider tips. Yep. So you can start by saying your name, where you work, and what does DHS2 mean to you? Extend in many other of the issues we do now, because almost all of the health they are an end user. So we have a challenge for now because Nepal has turned to just transitioning to the federal structure with that structure in place. We are also having a change in the communication like there are barriers, which is being, you know, like is absorbed for now. So DHS2 is actually breaking that barrier in terms of coordinating different sector of government because with one click, we get to see all the data and where the barriers are. So it is actually work as a bridging component in terms of the federal structure. So it's making a larger impact in terms of our country to coordinate all the ministerial government, especially who are related to health, and the decision maker, and as well as the end user. It's making a big impact. Okay. Is there anything else you wanted to share or is that? Thanks so much. Any other people who would like to talk about their work with DHS2? Yes. Do you have slides that you're planning to present today? Okay. Well, yes, I think we're scheduled to you for 11.15. So we'll get through a few more short stories first, then you can have the stage. Yeah. Let me put this on here. Yes. Okay. You can hold this. Ask him to look this way. The federal court, let's do it. At the ground level, the system is at the level, so I'm just going to move to that. For the DHS2, we don't need to be able to see the reform of the DHS2 internally. The DHS2 are done at the end. They click on the level system, so that we can see the reform. At the level of the DHS2, we don't need to be able to see the reform of the DHS2. At the level of the DHS2, we don't need to be able to see the reform of the DHS2 at the level, so that we can see the reform of the DHS2. And then the DHS2 is done at the level of the DHS2. At the level of the DHS2, we don't need to be able to see the reform of the DHS2. I'll read those as anyone else is interested in coming up and sharing a story with us. This English would be good. Yeah. Yeah, let's let's do English. Yeah. Okay, since you're representing several countries, you work with several countries. Can you maybe just give some examples of a concrete impact you've seen DHS to DHS to data make and one or one or more countries. We had some some challenges to tackle, we got in the DHS to get in the HM is so the country design strategy but in the strategy nobody knows what to use to change the system. So the game changer was in 2014, when we had an agreement on DHS to and actually we piloted it in 2013 to 2015, and then we scale it up all over the time until 2018. And then by the end of 2018, we were able to produce one yearbook and on your book, which has not been produced for 10 years before. So it changes the game and changes the way everybody sees the work of the health sector, and especially the public sector. So that's what is about total. For example, recently, and DRC and money as well, we were able to do in the COVID-19 crisis to reach us to have a case management system, including vaccination and lab results that we were able to produce certificate. In the case of total, that certificate has been accepted and credited by the African Union and also by the European Union. So those are the things we have been able to achieve in the tech team, in that in the coming year. Right. Thanks very much. Thank you so much. Thanks. I'll take this microphone too. Right. I think we have another. Oh, would you like to come up and join us. We're interviewing people. You arrived just in time. It's interesting because at that moment, we had a lot of problems with the health sector. And I've seen that since I was at the level of the health sector. Well, I discovered it. When I said, it was in the month of November, when I said, no, we have to implement the health sector in the month of December. No, no, no. since we have a lot of civil rights. So it allows me to solve a lot of problems not only with the support of the people, but also with the support of the land owners. Imagine when we see the ectel, write what they call us, so we will learn each person. Imagine this. So it's very easy to explain when you form the ectel. So it's a little bit more complicated than I thought, because I'm talking about the ectel in a formal manner. Yes, well, if I want to say the part of the ectel in the ectel, well, I would say the fact of having the ectel available is the availability of the ectel. So it's a little bit more complicated to add to the ectel than before we had to do when we had to do a statistical review. It was the ectel, we had to regroup the land owners and the ectel. Now it's centralized, we have the data, everyone has their own ectel. That's really the first part that I said. There is also the quality of the data. I don't want to throw this away, but I would like to say I have no idea what is the ectel in terms of the ectel. So on top of that, It's a little bit more complicated to have the ectel in the first place. But I want to add a little bit more. So it's a little bit more complicated to have the ectel, that are all very useful for the ectel, but in the first place The fact that we are central is that everyone accepts a single and unified and integrated. I told him when I was doing the presentation, it was with the fragmentation of the system. The fragmentation of the system, I told him. Just on the whole of the presentation. Thank you. I have time for one more short story. If anyone else wants to share. Any other DHS stories, Arthur, do you want to say anything while you're here? I know you've got a lot of stories. We do. I think we've got them. Okay, we've gotten a number of good stories today. So if you don't have any more volunteers, just wrap up with a couple closing comments. Yeah, we, yeah, so we actually have to end this session pretty soon because Pakistan is going to then take over and do a presentation on their work, but we can take the camera out into the hallway and do some more filming there. Okay, so a couple of notes. If you're interested in also sharing your stories, I think listening to the way people talk about their DHS two implementations, what's important to them is a good way to go about it. And if you're, if you're trying to shape a story, talking to people who are using the data using the system, what the data means to them, what the systems impact means to them is a good way to get to the heart of that story. Then you see what's important to the people whose work actually depends on using it. And maybe it's a great way to get that information if you're writing about a system, because people love facts, but they love even more as a good quote, a good story. And so if you get that story from a person who actually is really invested in the system that can be the headline for your article that can be the thing that draws people in and then helps them be interested in reading all the facts and all the supporting details. And maybe a lot of this is about the sort of personal connection to the system because this is a system that we use day to day they used to do their job and people who want to do a good job generally speaking. So if we can make that connection to how DHS to facilitates that work, so it takes achieving goals, then we can really translate that into a story that's meaningful for people and wants them to continue to engage in the DHS to project. Thanks for joining. I hope that was interesting, a little bit non traditional as a presentation, but I really appreciate everyone who came and who shared their stories with us, and we're going to wrap up. We will put this recording on YouTube for anyone who wants to watch it after that, especially if you missed the beginning part of the presentation we talked a little bit more about how to shape DHS to stories and and to might be interested in them. And then we're going to transition on to the next presentation which will be from the Ministry of Health in Pakistan about their work. Thanks for joining. Okay, I would maybe stop recording and start it again.