 think one of the biggest objections to being tame domesticated is that a tame animal is really either a pet or livestock I mean what else you're gonna be a pet like a cat or a dog or you know kept in a cage like a bird or you know maybe you're gonna be livestock like a cow or a pig or a chicken and that's that's the life of a tame animal and who wants to be that what I mean what human would be happy with such a condition because really a pet or livestock is a slave pets are slaves I know a pet owner does not want to think of his or her beloved pet dog a member of the family as being a slave but I challenge any pet owner to explain the difference between a pet and a slave and of course the maybe the best argument that can be made is that you know the pet is more like a child and a slave it it can't handle freedom it wouldn't because that wouldn't be safe and therefore it must be kept contained and controlled but the same thing could and has been said about human slaves you know they can't handle freedom and therefore they must be enslaved so really the life of a pet is the life of a slave and what human would want that what you know who would want to be tame and yet that's where we find ourselves as modern humans now we often say we were self domesticated and so that be that becomes a kind of peculiar situation where we domesticated ourselves so we are pets and livestock but to ourselves so what does that mean is it like a side of us that is a slave and another side that is the owner I mean what do we and and maybe that's a way that it's sometimes explained as we have we have a lower nature which is like a slave and a higher nature which is like its owner but I think it's not really clear at all and the meaning of you know what it means to be a human pet or a human livestock is it is quite an unsettling idea so is it even possible to be free and tame you know we look at wild animals and there's a certain kind of respect and admiration that we have for them because there's a certain kind of freedom I think that we appreciate and so there's a part of us I think that wants to have that freedom that wants to have something different than the domesticated state of the modern human but on the other hand when we look at the life of anything in the wild I mean it's not really for the most part not something that we'd prefer we wouldn't rather live this kind of violent and very uncomfortable life without all our modern comforts without these levels of security and safety life is generally not good I mean there's we have to be very careful not to idealize wildlife as if it's some kind of paradise so and in many ways our tame life is itself a paradise that protects us from many of the worst things in the wild we have shelters to protect us from the worst weather we have systems and infrastructure that help us to have regular supply of food and we have systems of laws that reduce the amount of violence between individuals so all these things make life better and yet when I think am I am I a pet am I livestock am I a slave is this is this the nature of the modern human what does it even mean then to be free what would it be like what would a wild and free human be like and I don't know so I end this series on human domestication with a big question mark what does it mean and what can we do about it