 Given the recent trends of propaganda, internet terrorism and cyberbullying, how do we make sure that we are actually protecting the citizens and especially the youth on this platform while at the same time offering platforms the space to innovate? To ensure our online engagement and the safety, first day we ourselves should be more aware and more prepared for the cyber security issues, such as having the knowledge of distinguishing malware and paying attention to our important personal information on posting on social media platforms. Besides, digital enterprises should prioritize the protection of customers' privacy in their business plans and governments should update the policies for the regulation of the rapidly changing digital world. As girls and women are more prone to encounter trouble in cyber space, such as cyberbullying and harassment, youths as active users on different online platforms can actually do several simple things, such as posting and retweeting relevant posts, using our potential influence to call for society's attention to the gender issue in the digital world. How can youths be more engaged with different stakeholders to build trust and safer online experiences for girls and women? We have been able to witness startups become literally more powerful than some states. We have been able to see a trend of companies having the ability and the responsibility of governing their own platforms. And laws have adapted in such a way as to offer this middle ground where both internet companies and states govern over platforms. Given the recent trends of propaganda, internet terrorism and cyberbullying, how do we make sure that we are actually protecting the citizens and especially the youth on this platform while at the same time offering platforms the space to innovate? To ensure our online engagement and the safety, first, we ourselves should be more aware and more prepared for the cyber security issues, such as having the knowledge of distinguishing malware and paying attention to our important personal information on posting on social media platforms. Besides, digital enterprises should prioritize the protection of customers' privacy in their business plans and governments should update the policies for the regulation of the rapidly changing digital world. As girls and women are more prone to encounter trouble in cyber space, such as cyberbullying and harassment, youths as active users on different online platforms can actually do several simple things, such as posting and retweeting relevant posts, using our potential influence to call for society's attention to the gender issue in the digital world. How can youths be more engaged with different stakeholders to build trust and safer online experiences for girls and women? We have been able to witness startups become literally more powerful than some states. We have been able to see a trend of companies having the ability and the responsibility of governing their own platforms. And laws have adapted in such a way as to offer this middle ground where both internet companies and states govern over platforms. Given the recent trends of propaganda, internet terrorism, and cyberbullying, how do we make sure that we are actually protecting the citizens and especially the youth on this platform while at the same time offering platforms the space to innovate? To ensure our online engagement and the safety, first we ourselves should be more aware and more prepared for the cyber security issues, such as having the knowledge of distinguishing malware and paying attention to our important personal information on posting on social media platforms. Besides, digital enterprises should prioritize the protection of customers' privacy in their business plans and governments should update the policies for the regulation of the rapidly changing digital world. As girls and women are more prone to encounter trouble in cyber space, such as cyberbullying and harassment, youths as active users on different online platforms can actually do several simple things, such as posting at retweeting relevant posts, using our potential influence to call for society's attention to the gender issue in the digital world. How can youths be more engaged with the different stakeholders to build trust in the safer online experiences for girls and women? We have been able to witness startup. Thank you very much. Welcome back. How was the lunch? Great. I love great. Did I hear good? Okay. What was your favorite meal from lunch? You didn't get the dessert. Oh, so you did twice this time. Amazing. That's good. That's good to connect with the dessert. All right. Thank you very much. Welcome back once again. We are actually going to be continuing with another session, but I would love us to, if possible, you can take your seat so that we begin. I'm hoping you enjoyed the discussions, the dialogues that happened in the morning, and we are here to have more interesting dialogues. Now, we thank those who are following us online. Thank you very much. Please feel free to engage the programs. You will get to see where to go looking at the links you are given in your program. Today we are opening the program with the third intergeneration dialogue. Now, ladies and gentlemen, this dialogue is about protecting, meaning building a safer online world. The session will be moderated by Juliana Novias, Generation Connect visionary board member, and she's going to be taking us through. Online she'll be joined by Julia, and Julia will also be online. Now, the video that you saw was pretty much to set the tone, but I understand that some of us actually have just entered. So I'm going to ask the technical team to allow me and play just one more time as Juliana also gets ready to moderate the next session. Thank you. We have been able to witness startups become literally more powerful than some states. We have been able to see a trend of companies having the ability and the responsibility of governing their own platforms. And laws have adapted in such a way as to offer this middle ground where both internet companies and states govern over platforms. Given the recent trends of propaganda, internet terrorism and cyberbullying, how do we make sure that we are actually protecting the citizens and especially the youth on this platform? Well, at the same time offering platforms the space to innovate. To ensure our online engagement and the safety, first day we ourselves should be more aware and more prepared for the cybersecurity issues, such as having the knowledge of distinguishing malware and paying attention to our important personal information on posting on social media platforms. Besides, digital enterprises should prioritize the protection of customers' privacy in a business space and governments should update the policies for the regulation of the rapidly changing digital world. As girls and women are more prone to encounter trouble in cyber space, such as cyberbullying and harassment, youths as active users on different online platforms can actually do several simple things, such as posting at retweeting relevant posts, using our potential influence to call for society's attention to the gender issue in the digital world. How can youths be more engaged with the different stakeholders to build trust in the safer online experiences for girls and women? Thank you. Juliana, the floor is yours. Thank you so much, MC. Hello, everybody. Good afternoon. I hope you had a great lunch and that you're enjoying our second day of event. As a member of the Generation Connect Global Visionaries Board, I am extremely happy to see so many people in this auditorium. So I would like to thank you so much for your presence here today and also to those who are joining us online. Thank you so much. Also, I was really happy yesterday to be talking to so many people from Rwanda. I think a conference is only successful if it manages to engage the local community. So I was extremely pleased to see so many people from this country that kindly hosted our event today. So today in this panel, we're going to be addressing an issue that has everything to do with COVID-19 but also everything to do with online safety. Today we have with us a magnificent list of panelists. I am personally quite intimidated by the people that we have here today in this panel. We're going to be talking about the changes that have been happening in the last two years in our lives due to COVID-19 and how this implies and more exposure of our privacy and more threats to harassment, to online violence and all the things that we face now in our online world since we transitioned. We faced quite a sudden transition to the online environment. So I'm going to be introducing my panelists. We have some people there joining us on site, as you can see, but we also have online panelists. I'm going to start with our first online panelist, which is Mr. Vincer, who does not really require an introduction, but I'm going to provide one. Well, Mr. Vincer is an Internet pioneer and is known as one of the fathers of the Internet and you can see him on the video there. He's going to be joining us online. After that, we're going to have Ms. Sharifa Atangiba from Ghana. She's an officer of cyber tech standards at the Cybersecurity Authority in Ghana and she is right here joining us in person. After that, we'll have Mr. Sabin Sormas from Romania. He is a member of the parliament and the president of information technology and communication committee in Romania. Who is the country that will kindly host our next plenipotentiary conference, PP22 actually. And then we'll have Ms. Alicia Tamba, who is head of international organizations for connectivity and inclusion at Meta, joining us here in person. Mr. Bolutife Adiza, who I have the pleasure to have as my colleague at the Generation Connect Global Visionaries Board, also sitting there. And online we'll have Ms. Mercy Juanal, who's director of legal and board secretary at the communications agency in Kenya. Well, we also have the support of Ms. Yulia Lozanova today, who will be our online moderator. Well, she works for the ITU and she'll be sharing the inputs and the questions from our online participants in the chat. So, well, to kick off our panel, I will first give the floor to Mr. Vincere, who will share a bit of his trajectory and will share his perspective on how to build an online safer world. Thank you so much. Well, thank you so much for inviting me to join you. I'm very excited to have this opportunity to talk about safety and security on the internet. I want to suggest you two words that we might all keep in mind. One of them is accountability and the other one is agency. On the accountability side, I think it's vital that we hold people accountable for what they see on the internet. This, I could not emphasize this more because the problems that we have are introduced by people who don't have your best interests at heart. The Secretary General of the United Nations has initiated a major effort on digital cooperation, a roadmap towards that end and other activities that I hope will produce a safer and more secure internet. That may in fact involve things like how we protect digital evidence that we might collect from online crimes, how we achieve law enforcement cooperation across international boundaries because we have the problem that harms can occur across those boundaries in different jurisdictions. We might need to adopt standards for authentication on a global basis in order to assure that the parties that we're interacting with digitally are the ones that we expect. The agency side of this equation involves you and me. It involves a kind of digital literacy so that we are aware of the potential risk factors in online and we know how to deal with it. At the very top of my list is something called critical thinking which just says when you're confronted with information from the online world please think where did it come from? Is there a corroborating evidence for assertions that are being made? Is there some motivation for the content you're encountering? Are they trying to convince you of something that you shouldn't believe? Wetware up here is very important. Strong authentication is also your friend here. You don't want someone to pretend to be you. In addition to usernames and passwords two-factor authentication using cryptography is extremely important. As is cryptography for confidentiality. Again, we want to use those tools to protect your privacy and we would like to be assured that the people whose services we use online provide us with those tools. We also have to be smart about the fact that not all software works as is intended to work which means it needs to be updated to correct mistakes and bugs. That means we have to learn to be very regular in our habits of updating the software. We have to make sure that the software updates have come from the right sources having been altered on their path from the source to the destination. Finally, just as another simple example we should be aware of such things as phishing where people send you emails that are excited in tone and they tell you you need to share a piece of personal information to help a friend when in fact it's someone who can induce you to share information that you shouldn't be sharing like account information or sending a gift card or doing some other action that's in their interest but not yours. I realize that a rather long intro, thank you for letting me chew up some of your time. I'm eager to hear from the rest of the panelists their views on this area. Thank you so much, Vint for sharing some of the key points for our discussion today. I think some of the points that you bring relate very much to the role of the user in protecting themselves online as well as some of the tools that we could use to make ourselves better protected. I will turn now to Ms. Sharifa with a question that relates very much to those points. The first question I would like to ask you is how do you think we can better protect young people on the internet and from a more user perspective what do you think is the role of the young people in promoting cybersecurity and creating their own safer spaces online? Okay, thank you for your question. I think that's most importantly, cybersecurity or being safe online is a collective responsibility and also you can look at cybersecurity or being safe online in three perspectives which I'm going to categorize as individuals, businesses and governments. What are we doing as these categories? So for individuals protecting yourself you just have to be assertive. I mean the measures, the security measures that you would put in place as an individual outside the internet world you should transfer that knowledge and skills on the cyberspace as well and remember that the internet never forgets once you post online you may take it out later but someone might have taken a screenshot and it might resurface in the future so whatever we do as individuals we should remember that the internet never forgets and as businesses too businesses should also remember that we are not protecting only the technology we have the people, the processes and the technology there are three key areas here so as much as we are protecting that technology by ensuring there's firewalls and all of that, the people we employ, the cleaners we should ensure have good background checks to ensure that there's security and for governments to having a national cyber security policy is very key it gives a sense of direction on how the space should be regulated and I'd like to use this opportunity to share with you that Ghana has implemented the Cyber Security Act 2020 which was brought out last year and I'll have a copy of it here if you would like to have a look at it after this I would like to share with you so that's my point thank you thank you so much Riva thank you for your points I think in the last part of your speech you briefly mentioned as well the role of governments and the role of policy into this discussion I think this relates very much to my next question that will be directed to Mr. Sarmaz later and the role of a policy maker what do you think are the challenges of addressing the issue of online security online and what do you think are important steps that governments and parliaments need to take in order to ensure that young people have a safer online space thank you for the question I think that the young people are most entitled to raise this question about having a safe cyberspace most common users and are most exposed when I was just around 11 years I was the very first victim in my life of a cyber crime because I was using, by the way I didn't imagine to be in the same panel with one of the founders of the internet of TCPIP so I was just discovering how to use the internet and I was using a dialogue connection maybe the youngsters didn't know but today to download Amazon.com over a dialogue it would take like three minutes so using for the first month in my life the internet at the moment pop-up showed asking me to click in order to play a nice game I clicked the dialogue connection interrupted another one was established but a very expensive one my father had to pay $100 for that for 10 minutes on that connection he wasn't happy believe me he wasn't happy so I was for the very first time in my life a victim of a cyber crime who was guilty for that was the technology was the internet provider who should block such a connection was me I was a child I think it's not a crime trying to play a game online was my father who was not proficient in serving on the internet as well the answer is the cyber security in general it's not a simple issue it's not just a technical problem it's and I love what you said before that cyber security is a collective problem today it's a very complex problem so we need to address it very first from the people perspective the people are more important link in cyber security chain and we talked yesterday about education and I found out that Rwanda is doing great things in term of digital literacy but we need to think as well about cyber security literacy just imagine somebody a young sir learning to ride a bicycle but without knowing any traffic rules for sure at the moment he is going to be a victim of an accident on the roads it's the same with cyber security from a legal perspective the legal framework that forces if you want so that's a strong word the educational systems to learn from the early stages the students to use the internet in a very safe way this can be done both by having digital literacy schools by cyber security literacy on the other hand from a technical perspective we we need to regulate but we need to pay attention because regulating too much at a point can be a barrier for the innovation we need to have such regulation as I don't know having solution which are cyber security cyber security from design we need to have regulation which have to do more with data protection GDPR is not for example it's implemented in Europe and GDPR is not about cyber security but it's doing a lot about data protection and the way that our data is handled over the internet so this is my thoughts regarding what the politicians should do they should start from the people which are the most important link in the cyber security chain starting with education and regulating from a technical perspective as well but taking care about not stopping the innovation thank you so much I think you mentioned something that I found quite interesting about this division and layers so you have this skill layer that relates very much to the people and their ability to use the technology understand the technology the technical layer which relates very much to the technology itself and then the policy layer that's supposed to incorporate all of those previous ones and with that in mind the aspects of cyber security the skills, the policy and the technology itself what do you think is the role of the private sector in ensuring a greater well safer and well more secure online space for all? Thank you so much and first of all it's really great to be here I think there's a lot that we all can learn from you and some of us weren't that far removed so I wanted to be a really interactive about what we're doing at Meta it's really important to think about digital inclusion and bringing the world together but you have those aspects of what exactly do you need to do to remain safe online so I think we think of it in a couple of buckets first there's what we need to do what we need to do to set community standards and community policies that must be followed age requirements for actually joining our different platforms people have to definitely be in consideration of but then we have over 30,000 people working on these issues whether it's content reviewers security fact-checkers and things of that sort but then it's also our responsibility to make sure you have the different digital inclusion and skills that are required for instance I ask one of my relatives what they would make their password because they're older they haven't been on social media and they literally said their first name and their birth date and that's one of the easiest things that someone can get into so it's different courses that are necessary so we have skills programs for instance we have Get Digital which is our digital citizenship program it has five different pillars and it focuses on things that you need to really remain safe online so that's things like bullying and well-being and a lot of different aspects and that's a global program but then we also have regional programs because when you think about solutions you can't think that something in Africa is going to work for something in Asia you can't think that something in South Africa is going to work for something in Nigeria it has to really take into consideration the different local policies the different opinions that are coming in and that includes youth there has to be open consultations to really get these different opinions so we have different digital skills programs that really really discuss what it takes to remain safe online but then you also need to make sure you're working with other stakeholders so collaboration is really really important and just like my colleagues were saying it's important to talk about the government but business with civil society one example that I'll use is Girls in ICT day this is an initiative through the ITU but you have regional programs that take place this year I participated in the African telecommunications unions program which was talking about girls in Africa but also how to make sure that they could remain safe online through this collaboration I was from the private sector but they had people from the government multilateral institutions they also had youth in the room there's going to be reports that come out it's important that when we're talking about this we're all in the room together having different conversations and hearing what's important it's important to hear have you been harassed online have you been cyberbullied online of course there's research but hearing it from others is really really important so there's a lot of different initiatives coming in but I would just say there's a lot that the private sector can do in terms of making sure that they have digital literacy programs in place that provide digital skills and online safety and there has to be trainings trainings of government officials to know what are the different safety implications and learning from the governments to know what are the problems faced in those countries but then there also has to be policies that we create and implement and a lot of that is learning from different stakeholders and then of course being here in the room it's great to hear from us but I would love to hear what are happening from all of you thank you so much Alicia speaking about our concerns as youth group let's say I would turn now to Miss who is a young engineer and the question I wanted to ask him is in your role as a future generation engineer what do you think a safer online environment consists of and how do you think our generation can achieve it and what's our role in it thank you very much Juliana and thanks to everyone who has spoken I think being safe online actually for me means that an individual protecting themselves and not just themselves other people as well from risks that could jeopardize their personal information and not just their personal information also risks that could actually lead to unsafe communication and also lastly risks that could negatively impact their mental health and also their physical well-being as well so I would just say in 2021 the off-come children and parents media use and attitudes reports actually found that children nowadays are more engaged online when it comes to using the internet than they have ever been and we also see that ownership of smart devices and the range of content to which they access is increasing drastically so the last session we had yesterday in the evening I think the gentleman from META actually described a very interesting idea that has been developed using virtual reality to teach young kids in schools and I really found that very amazing because from their research it actually shows that 350% it is more effective in teaching young people and I think that's really amazing and it makes me excited about the future thinking about things like that but at the same time it gives me concern in terms of safety because the current situation of cyber security right now and online safety especially for young people is not the best now we are about to have technologies that interact with people in a much more unique so to speak it interacts with our bodies even more so I am interested to also see how companies like META are trying to tackle challenges like that because we are moving to a three times more effective form of interaction between the internet and human beings I definitely think that there should be solutions that ensure that things don't go away especially with young people and children especially yes and I think learning is becoming more immersive as seen but I think it's important that we cater for vulnerable children and also for adults also because we have the older generation that have issues using the internet so in terms of recommendation for young people like myself on how they can also contribute to this I think I'll mention three things very quickly first is we should call out on safe behaviors online I think that is something that we have always done and we should continue to do maybe through Twitter and any of our platforms when we observe that companies are not doing what's the promise to do or what is supposed to do it's our responsibility to call them out and secondly I would say we are also builders we are also innovators so we can also use solutions that would work when it comes to online safety and lastly I would say it begins with you it begins with me it begins with every one of us and we can also be carriers of this message we can talk to people around us and look at ways in which we can educate more people to make sure that we have a very safe online space with that so thank you very much thank you so much Folo I think you mentioned thank you for the clapping as well I think you mentioned something really important that has to do with the role of emerging technologies in creating an environment in which we expose ourselves even more so with this in mind I would like to turn to our last panelist who is going to be joining our discussion online and what I wanted to ask Marcy is what do you think are the measures that regulators should adopt to ensure security when it comes to emerging technologies and how can the voices of you be heard in this process thank you so much thank you very much Julia and I'm very delighted to join this very esteemed panel this afternoon the whole world is just coming out of COVID and during COVID we were exposed to a new reality and this has pushed a lot of countries to move towards digital transformation what does this mean it means that children who are going to be born in this season and going forward will know nothing else but the internet has a means to access even basic services like health, education and the like I believe this calls for a higher duty of care because when particularly children and the youth are exposed to this kind of platforms at a very early age and on a mandatory level then perhaps this raises the threshold of provision what happens in the case of youth or young youth or children who have disabilities there must be some provision made for them what kind of assurances do we put in place to ensure that youth and children are ready to travel on the internet I've just seen a small conversation evolving on the chart line about a driver's license to go online and I very much support this because surely even when you own a car and you park it out there and your child wants to drive there's a mandatory age when they can go on the road and on top of that they need to take the driving school in order to hit the road but isn't it just so sad so unfortunate that the internet which has a lot of promise but also a lot of danger a lot of young people get in there unsupervised and at any time and only we do not know where they will end so this is perhaps one of the things that governments, regulators need to take very seriously about provision of some kind of awareness threshold, some kind of certification that you can do let's say for example at age 5 for example and then as you move on it escalates so that you get a sort of a badge that ensures that once you pass that exam or that certification at a certain age you have a certain level of awareness there have been quite a number of case studies that have demonstrated that with a huge part of the world increasing in connectivity children are getting exposed at very very high levels and this is really our own creation because in providing the pipe then we really must be careful about what gets into the pipe and into the eyes and the hands of the youth and the children that are in the various countries also this is also a call for governments to really step up compliance and enforcement in the case of Kenya for example we have the computer misuse and cybercrime acts and I believe there have been quite a number of pieces of legislation that have been passed around this issue the real test now will be to ensure enforcement so that this becomes a deterrent it also becomes an awareness creation tool that you deal with the internet you deal with it responsibly and when you fail to deal with it responsibly there are real and active consequences to it thank you thank you so much Mrs. Nancy now we're going to turn to a more interactive part of this panel in which we're going to invite somebody from the audience to present their views how can the different sectors collaborate to create a safer online environment so what I'm going to do is I'm going to ask for those interested in sharing their perspective to raise their hands I'm going to pick one person from the audience and this person will be invited to share the name and the country where they come from and after that we're going to open for the Q&A this is well an idea to have a more interactive session in which you can hear also your perspectives and incorporate that into the discussion so if you're interested in sharing your perspective briefly around two minutes intervention please raise your hand and we're going to pass the microphone I see there's a hand raised there please say your name and where you come from please what is your perspective on how we can collaborate for a safer online environment thank you first thank you for the experience my name is Alviah Riskiramdini I'm from Indonesia and yeah I'm coming from a developing country which you know we have a phase a lot digital inclusion we happen to phase like a digital transformation but unfortunately it's not following with digital literacy which you know make us a people coming from older generation and younger generations tend to phase like a security bridge and data rope and you know I think I might to feel like there's a thing that we should concern in terms of like like regulations so I want to ask this maybe for the panelists what might we still like in terms of you know recent policy for international level or even national level and intend to bring up you know in the future framework or future framework or future regulations in the country and because based on my experience in my country there's a lot thing that still not covered in the regulations so for examples it's hard to track a people that you know doing some cybercrime because the regulation in my country is very weak and they just going out like there's nothing to do and it's maybe very concern and I want to ask what maybe still like in the recent policy thank you thank you so much for your input and also for the question well considering we also had a question from the audience already I wanted to ask if any of the panelists would like to take this question and then we can move on to the online audience to see if there are any questions from there as part as member of the parliament I think I should say a few words about this so what you just said it's a huge challenges for governments and for parliaments in general having regulation that allows them to track extremely fast the people who are comedic cybercrimes it's a strong debate at least in my country and all around the Europe related to how much power should the institution that are in charge or protecting us against cybercrimes or cyber attacks and so on should have because in the end it's about your privacy it's about protecting your data so in case you are giving too much power with all the respect to any public institution to the government it might be not in your favor at the point so we need to give them tools to manage if you want the ones who are committing cybercrimes we need to regulate that we need to give them the possibility to do that but having in mind all the time the privacy of your data that's the most important thing on the internet thank you so much I just got a telepathic message here from Julia saying that Mr. Winsor wants to take the floor as well so please feel free thank you so much I have some important questions and I would argue that my earlier term accountability applies here many people including me used to think that anonymity was a valuable property of the use of the internet you didn't have to identify yourself to make use of all of this content but I'm now persuaded that pseudonymity may be acceptable but it's not a bad event of bad behavior and that needs to work on a transnational basis but we have to see cooperation among governments in order to help others to track down people who are doing harmful things that's going to require a lot of cooperation and that's of course one reason why the ITE of the United Nations will be instrumental in helping us establish more global regimes in the future so please feel free thank you so much just got another telepathic message here saying that Mrs. Marci also wants to have the floor feel free thank you Julia I was going to respond to the question from the young lady about the laws and the policies the regulatory framework being just generally very weak and I was going to say think of regulations as a marathon because when you start developing these frameworks you set them up within the current reality and we know that the internet space the cyberspace is evolving very very very fast and even as we speak there are probably some kind of incidences that are happening which will need to find their way into the law at some point with the application of more and more sophisticated technologies the outcomes that are coming out of it definitely the law has to change my view actually is that this is one of the branches of the policy and regulatory framework that is going to undergo very rapid change over time so let's be patient and keep articulating and supporting law reform as it arises as part of a long marathon because we are not going to sprint and reach the end it's going to be a long welcoming but we have to keep on the track thank you thank you so much right now I would like to open the floor for questions from the audience and that includes as well the online audience so if you do have a question and you're not here in Rwanda right now just type your question and Julia will let me know and if you do have a question and you are at the audience just raise your hand and I will let you know when to speak okay I see we got a question from the gentleman in the front please before you speak just I would ask you to say your name and where you come from thank you thank you very much my name is Moti Jima Ali I'm a Rwandan citizen and a student at the African leadership university so I was thinking about what the member of parliament just told us and I have somewhat a dilemma because I feel like these tools can be really beneficial to track down people committing crimes online but then I also feel like there's governments that might abuse these tools to like stomp down dissent or political opponents so I'm kind of confused right now there's anything you can tell us about it maybe just to eliminate the confusion we as a member of the parliament we have a large at least in our kind of democracy to protect the people so the laws we are having we are working for must be developed in such a manner that can offer you both protection about cyber crimes but protection about any hypothetically abuse from other institutions you know so it's as simple as that we have different type of democracies all around the world I'm talking here the approach we should have all around the world I think that this is a matter of trust in cyber security and first of all we need to trust our public institution we need to trust the institution that are protecting us but we as a member of the parliament being elected by the people directly we should build the laws having in mind everything I said before thank you so much anybody else wants to take that question hello is my voice audible yes it is okay so I am Nabil Turmazi from Pakistan but basically representing Asia Pacific Institute for Broadcasting Development Malaysia we have been doing quite a lot of media literacy digital literacy in collaboration with ITU as well so I have one suggestion like we since yesterday we have been talking about peer-to-peer kind of discussion, collaboration, partnership but one thing which I would like to suggest is that we should also be collaborating with the education or the academia to include these kind of subjects in the curriculum like what is confirmation by stognative biases which is all related to cyber threats as well so I think that we should also talk to the education sector to include these things in the in their curriculum another thing which as honorable member of parliament has mentioned about the data security and also my friend over here he also talked about the data security and his concerns my suggestion would be that the government since data collection is available but there should be also this kind of awareness that what kind of data is being collected on the government level so at least people are more aware about that what is happening with their data so talking about the privacy thing, the data privacy and all those kind of stuff and third thing is the filter bubbles that we really need to understand and make the youth that are filter bubbles and also that how it manipulates or as emotionally politically, ideologically although there are definitely benefits for filter bubbles as well but these are the subjects which we really need to talk on the academia level, peer to peer level and also on different other forums, thank you Thank you so much for the intervention I think Mr. Vinsurf wanted the floor Well thank you I had taken my hand down thinking we might run out of time but just briefly I want to reiterate how important this critical thinking idea is in the educational side teaching people how to deal with online information by the way it also works really well for newspapers, magazines, movies your friends and others who are all sources of information which you should view with a small degree of suspicion asking where did the information come from is there corroborating evidence and so on so that's one thing on the education side fully agree the other question which is how do we deal with the overpowering use by government to suppress information using exactly the same tools we're trying to use in order to protect people from harm and I think that's a very hard question there is a great deal of discussion going on right now within a variety of different UN discussion groups about cyber crime and how to define it and how to cope with it so I keep working on this because we have ways to go before we figure out how to make this a safer environment for everyone including protecting people from governments that don't have their citizens interests at heart. Thank you so much I think Ms. Alicia I just want to say I completely agree with the gentleman from Pakistan for instance MEDA has a digital literacy and online safety program in Pakistan and it works with civil society organizations educators and those who are really closest to these issues but I think generally also as he was saying with educators it's very important that even if it's not in the direct curriculum that both those who are closest to the youth are very informed which are likely educators and teachers as well as parents the get digital program that I was talking to you about it has a train the trainer concept in the sense that it's for teachers and parents as well where they can use it with their students and with their children and I think it's really important from the education standpoint because I know many of you know those who spend a lot of the time with you or most of the time with you are your educators are your teachers so it's really important that they are empowered to have those tools and then it also comes down to local content are these tools in the local language it can't you know doing like I said it's a global solution can't go to a local problem especially if it isn't addressed in local languages native languages it's not just what the national language is so it definitely is really important to think about what is happening with educators and how the content is being presented when you're talking about online safety thank you so much we also have an online question Julia would you mind sharing the question with us please thank you very much Juliana with pleasure so we have actually now two questions in the Q&A box very good questions indeed so one of the questions asks how can government that's provide awareness to the citizens especially those who have not digital communication devices such as smartphones or PCs so that question is it's a bit of a two questions into one so that really speaks to the needs to connect everyone first and then to how to also protect those who do not have their own devices so they will have to rely on public or shared facilities and how to ensure the security over those shared facilities and then I take the opportunity to also put out there the second question which speaks to policies and precisely to the implementation of policies and cybersecurity policies in particular so how to what else is available if cybersecurity policies either do not exist or are not properly implemented thank you very much thank you very much Yulia anyone wants to take those two questions it's Vint first of all one of the most important things we can do is to share our experiences with trying to cope with these problems what works and what doesn't work and especially why did it work or why did it not work understanding what works in context is extremely important for governments to share their experiences the public and private sector is engaging as well in a multi stakeholder dialogue I think will help us find ways of coping with these problems but we are going to have to work at it we need to share our experiences in all the various contexts to figure out what we can do that's effective thank you so much I try to answer a bit about the first question about the topic in the first question the government cannot solve this by itself any government in the world the government doesn't have such a big capacity we were talking about ambassadors digital ambassadors that Rwanda has you have such programs it's great but you can't reach the entire population being a global problem being a problem that impacts all the people in the world we need to work together on this for example what's happening in many countries companies that have the capacity to do that are involved in making people aware about the cyber threats in having programs based on their technical tools that they are providing this is not important because in the end it's knowledge that comes to the people it's not important what kind of tools are you doing that there are other organizations like NGOs that could be supported and supported by the government in order to have such programs but I think the answer is in the end that in order to reach the entire population of a country for example we need to involve all the resources we are having from the governmental side from the company side and from the NGO side in general very quickly I would just like to jump in I think I would like to speak to the part of there was a question that was asked related to policy and I mean from my perspective being an African I think we've also said it's important to collaborate and also this means amongst government so we always push for cross border policies and we encourage even governments to have that because this actually works but speaking from my African perspective I realize that most of the things I mean we have meetings we come up with drafts and it's a typical example is the Malibu Convention I'm glad to see that Ghana was able to adopt something but so far it still hasn't been something that is Africa wide there are still a couple of countries that are holding back on it so perhaps my suggestion also because I know that government people are here as well also to encourage cross border policies is very effective I think for the EU with the GDPR and especially for Africa to definitely work for us if we adopt this really good policies yeah so thank you Yeah I would just like to add that adopting international policies like the Budapest Convention and the Malibu Convention is very helpful because at the national level there's some power that the government has in instructing or let's say getting someone arrested in another country on cyber crime there's better relationship in that sense otherwise when you have someone committing a crime in Rwanda and there's no accede into a Budapest Convention or a Malibu Convention it will be difficult to arrest the person in another country so policy wise I think that it is very important for governments to look more into it thank you Thank you so much unfortunately we are running out of time so I'm going to pass the ball to our virtual hubs they're going to share some of their perspectives on the topic today so Yulia could you please introduce our virtual hubs today with pleasure so we have two hubs joining us today the Indian Institute of Management and then Harriet Port University in Dubai so I will start by giving the floor right now to from the Indian Institute of Management the floor is yours a very warm hello from India to the lovely panelists and participants present here the Indian Institute of Management and in my opinion as the adoption of digital technologies rapidly advances across the globe we need to strengthen our policies as we just discussed we need to expand and increase secure internet access in targeted emerging markets by enabling market entry for like-minded technology companies we need to increase adoption of policies and regularly positions that encourage open interoperable reliable and secure digital infrastructure and as networks expand there are intrinsically greater cybersecurity risks that can jeopardize a country's infrastructure we should therefore invest in the frontline of defence against cyber threats that is a country's workforce of engineers bank managers government officials or development practitioners and lastly as youth we should ourselves adopt certain practices like not duplicating passwords across accounts now this is where we will all put our accounts at risk our passwords do not change per account or services that we use and also actively reporting suspicious activities so that we can break the chain of online phishing attack thank you for the opportunity thank you very much this was great and I will take this opportunity to give the floor directly to Megasharma from Harriet Ford University in Dubai over to you could you please allow me to switch on video please do I'm not able to I'm sorry that's no problem you can just keep speaking okay perfect yeah my name is Megasharma and I'm representing Harriet Ford University from Dubai so today morning we conducted a workshop on online safety and what we can do as students and youth to ensure that we are feeling safe online and the way we approached it was first we identified what we vulnerabilities exist online like phishing attacks fake news data features even shopping online everything we do is vulnerable and how can we actually combat so what we understood was that we can identify these vulnerabilities because we have a certain level of digital literacy to understand that this is something that's not right this is something that's harming us so what we really want to do is improve on digital literacy especially for vulnerable groups and approach for each group separately you know how we approach digital literacy for elderly versus minor children and what how's the psychology facing to that and we can really enforce these ideas through the awareness campaigns like university workshops and discussions to protect ourselves digitally and the second most important thing is transparency not just transparency from companies but also using our own active participation in social media to identify and report these vulnerabilities like the fake news the phishing the scams everything so we can once we have once we sort of become active participants and all that another form of action that we can take is sort of ensure our own digital security by using digital solutions like data encryptions VPNs, multi-factor authentication and a lot more but to use these technology to use the digital solutions that already exist I think we really need better authority and better regulation of the solutions as well for example, UA's internet service providers have their own VPNs which can be trusted far better than any third party weekends as well and so what we really believe is that governments need to adapt to these cyber crimes we propose that ITU should take further steps in improving digital literacy not only at school level but among communities and lastly we propose for standardization on safety measures like data encryption, multi-factor authentication and more to shape a standard of online security thank you very much for having us and thank you very much I'm passing the floor back to Julianne thank you so much Julia in the interest of time I'm going to give the opportunity for every panelist to summarize in three words or one word if you prefer what are ways in which we can collaborate to build a safer internet so very short just so we can close it I'll start with maybe Mr. Vint and Ms. Nancy online and then we can move on to the on-site participants I'm afraid I've been to leave for another important conference so maybe we can just give the floor over to Mercy right away thank you very much my parting short would be to say that we need to arm ourselves we need to equip ourselves with education and skills we need to be strong whether you're an older person and it takes more than one party so let's go for collaboration let's go for multi-stakeholder collaboration and partnership in order to make this dream happen thank you thank you so much Ms. Nancy now I'll give the floor to Ms. Alicia I think she summed it up but I really just want to say education and empowerment through partnerships with stakeholders to do that and it takes multi I mean different groups especially the youth making sure there's an opportunity to be heard thank you since we're all seen from the same direction but I'd like to add more to it by saying that it's not just formal education but also let's look to spread awareness about safety when it comes to using the internet there are a couple of projects that we can do to reach out to communities around us thank you okay so for me I'd like to say that online safety cannot be 100% however we should consider resilience in online safety our ability to bounce back after an attack with governments businesses and individuals is very important there's nothing more to add but as there are a lot of young people here I can just ask them to be bold to continue up to continue doing the good work to be bold and to speak up in order to make their voices heard thank you so much to all the panelists who have participated in the discussion today and also to the audience for the questions and to the online audience we're now closing the session but thank you very much for your participation please join me thank you our speakers for this great session thank you very much Juliana and I will appreciate you can take your seats thank you very much that was a good conversation I hope you are also having a good time how are you good I love that okay now remember in the morning I said now you know when it's around this time we change it oh yes in Rwanda we say how are you differently depending on the time now around this time you say and then you say we do it again we do it again amazing amazing oh you guys we have Randy's only here am I at the wrong event well we have more conversations going on rich and diverse in this agenda and I'm going to ask you to please closely listen because I don't think I'll be seeing you again now let me really invite you to benefit from these sessions I'm going to be showing us the sessions please remember to connect remember to plan and talk to the people you do not know and get to know more about them let me also encourage you to share the good experiences on your social media those that are on tiktok oh yes you can tiktok this moment those that are on Twitter, Instagram hey your favorite social media channel it's fine remember to tag us on connect you will see the hashtag it's generation connect and the connect is in the cups that means you scream it out like generation connect so it's you have to point it out it's a call to action if you think of it let me invite the session coordinators of the next sessions to come to the podium to pitch your sessions I'll be announcing the sessions so you can easily come I actually oh by the way I heard that the morning sessions were really packed that was good and that's why I'm going to be giving you some news first come first serve so if you enter in a session and it's full please go to the next you just missed that alright since this is our last plenary session of the day I'm going to briefly tell you more about the sessions there are going to be ten sessions some of them will go simultaneously at the same time so you will pick where you want to go so you can pay attention on the screens they're going to be displaying them now starting it was from 3 to 4 p.m. so let's say we're just 13 minutes behind schedule but I trust you're going to keep time on the second floor we are going to have two youth for youth debating sessions let me start with room Karisimbi a debating session on the topic of exploring the future of work if I can have the person that is going to be taking us through that session use the 30 seconds and tell us why we should be joining you thank you my name is Benjamin Karezi and super excited to be in this room together with my colleagues and all of you here so the session we're going to have is to explore something very key to most of us actually if not all of us is the future of work and this is something to do you all know we are in the age of the fourth industrial revolution which will bring AI and automation meaning our careers in one way at stake but at the same time it is a good time to be living because we are transitioning the world into a digital driven economy so personally it's very key for me to be moderating such a session the fact that a bit of my background is that I studied petroleum economics worked for in a petroleum ministry and I dropped my job immediately to start selling robots and I sold robots to schools for studies to help students learn about these coding, programming, assembling and several other things but I also sold robots to help the government of Rwanda mitigate the spread of COVID-19 probably have had those at the airport and several others in the hospitals so it's a very interesting debate we are going to have please join us in level 2 Karisimbi room, thank you thank you very much Ben I hope you are not planning on making MC robots I need my job we also have in another room called Obumge a debate session on bridging the digital divide oh yes somebody is going to tell you more about it in a few seconds and I hope you join them hi everybody I'm Matilda I work for Nokia and for those of you who have met me through the summit there is really one topic that is very close to my heart and from what I hear is very close to the heart of a lot of people in this room and it's the digital divide but specifically it's intersectioning topics especially the gender digital divide so how do we make more women come to ICT, come to STEM and really come and change the industry which for me is the real issue in tech industry I need more women aside me to come and work and change and lead the innovation so please join us we're going to be in room Obumge I hope I said that right and yeah please join us it's going to be a fantastic debate we have great facilitators all around the world so happy to see you there thank you thank you very much actually the room is called Obumge and in Kinyaranda it means unity it's time to bridge in parallel we're going to be having another session on the second floor technology and gaming hub technology and gaming hub two of them actually that are going to be doing so I please yes please it's very very fine they're here to tell you why you should join them thank you very much we have very limited time because we want you all to come upstairs I saw some of you last night at dinner my co-founder and I we launched a non-profit helping low income communities on under resourced schools use the metaverse and virtual reality to transform education and also up skill and leapfrog their careers into metaverse designers and I'm going to turn it over to three more interesting people very excited everyone is welcome to join us at the technology hub second floor you just walk upstairs two flights of stairs and you'll see us you can't miss us and there's five very interesting activities where you can learn how to actually bring digital objects into the metaverse how to develop a career as a creator in the metaverse and more importantly to sign up for the global metaverse for SDGs global prize in VR competition and so we're excited to see you there soon hello my name is Samantha Aguilar I'm the creator of the technology at all it is more of a creative process so communication skills storytelling that's what's the most valuable in this metaverse hello we are Abby and Leah from EY and we would love to welcome you upstairs at the booth to present to you the EY STEM app second floor what can you expect trying out the mobile application to equip you with the digital skills that are required to succeed in the future of work and Abby and by trying out the app today you can enter a raffle to win some exciting prizes like Samsung Galaxy phones AirPods so please come to join us and we can't wait to see you thanks I picked the last sentence winnings prizes I hope you got that too now on the first floor at our room, we will have another session the theme is very simple how can you harness the power of technology for a more equal future now I'm going to ask you to before you go please because others are also going to be listening in and we are serving those who come first so it's best we all leave at the same time that way we all choose where we want to go can I ask that favor please thank you very much, just give me two minutes amazing, please, thank you very much just one more, this is organized by EY, ITU, GSMA and W4 taking us through this moment thank you very much thank you, hi everyone, Samara here with GSMA hi everybody, Lindsay of W4 don't go, you're going to miss the best session as much as we love the other sessions how to harness the power of technology for a more equal future at four o'clock in Rungasavo first floor we have an exciting surprise in store for all of you a wonderful use change enablers we don't have prizes, we have free gifts a free gift it's an opportunity to explore new tech skills, to improve your tech skills, free of charge through an innovative mobile app we know digital skills can open up wonderful employment opportunities and this is a fun engaging way to boost your digital skills and your digital assets so be sure to join us and we have a special guest at the end miss Doreen Pogter Martin director of the ITU telecommunication development bureau so don't miss her closing remarks, don't miss the session we look forward to seeing you there hopefully you like top it thank you very much, for those who are living actually have more announcements of how you will be living from this place so please don't go, let's really end this in style now some of us are losing or maybe you missed some of your items please you'll go at the reception or at the entrance you'll get it, for example somebody lost a phone and if you lost a phone you will find it there now we are going into the sessions that are starting from 4pm to 5pm and I don't want to take much of your time on the first floor room Gasabo will be having, okay we just had that one on the second floor Kari Simbi room we are having being relevant in future jobs economy I would love to be part of this and somebody who's going to be pitching it tell us more about it it's organized by exponential destiny alright you can also go to the auditorium we'll have a session dedicated to discuss youth call to action my digital future stands today I hope you will stay for that and that is at 4pm to 5pm still in that range on the first floor in room Gasabo we will have the session of La Francophonie Numerique they should have told me it's in French I hope I have tried organized by organization international of La Francophonie oh yes you can read amazing we keep going with the session on the second floor at the room this is still from 4pm to 5pm designing our possible futures please you could read it's going to be in room Obumge and this is organized by foundation Botna AI Future Lab Global Shapers De La Sainte and Financial Times Commission on Governing Health Futures 2030 and AI for Good on the next one on the second floor at room Amahoro we'll have our first monitoring session please go there to know more about your reflections also on the second floor at room Karisimbi we are having self guided reflections I hope you go and finally oh yes alright did I miss your session alright now I want to do the pitch to the call to action which is at 4pm it will be here we've been working for two years with consultations with young people today and a session tomorrow and a lot of people already have shared their comments we shared the draft about the week ago so we hope to hear more comments and also how to take the call to action forward we want to hear from you what do you want us to do with it after this event thank you very much thank you very much I had said and finally we will come together at exactly 6.15 or 18.15 now I'm going to ask you something on a personal level yesterday it was a bit hard for someone to listen the speakers could struggle for your attention could we make sure that this time around we give them some time in fact we are going to have it before dinner so that dinner becomes dinner the spotlight becomes the spotlight the relationship will come in later so please help us and give us your attention at that moment 6.15 it's going to be at the pavilion for the spotlight session good news 7pm sharp dinner will be served and ready please if you are not interested in the spotlight session you can easily join us at 7pm right but why wouldn't you be interested it's the spotlight session you should be if you are there I'll meet you and I would love to tell you that throughout this afternoon as yesterday the buses will be ready to take you back at the hotels after dinner you will see the names of the hotels on the buses so they could easily take you back please feel free to ask anyone to help you on that now please keep checking online because I must have missed something go online and check the program now which room where do you go to how to navigate yourself through the room otherwise ladies and gentlemen enjoy the afternoon I hope you are ready to have a good time enjoy this afternoon and all the best with a summit thank you very much