 Hello and welcome to NewsClick, the last four years of the Modi regime has seen countless attacks on Dalits, on Kisan's and workers. And the government which is claiming to be also nationalist has even not fulfilled the promise of one rank, one pension. On 9th of August, three big organizations which includes All India Kisan Sabha, All India Ambedkar Mahasabha and Indian Egg Servicemen Movement is giving call for massive agitations all across the country. Today we are going to talk about the same and we are joined by Hanan Molla, who is Secretary of All India Kisan Sabha, the General Secretary, Major General Satbhi Singh from the Servicemen Movement and Dr. Ashok Bharti from All India Ambedkar Mahasabha. Jai Bhim. So, Hanan, let's start with you. All India Kisan Sabha was called to jail on 9th of August and it was also talked about collecting 10 crore signatures. And BJP Quit India, because it is a significant date where the Quit India movement, I was given the order to quit India to the British, and on 9th of August BJP Quit India was given the order. What are its main demands? The main demand is that of the farmer's crop, because of which the farmer is committing suicide, the crop is not getting the right amount. The minimum support price given is less than the cost of production, of all crops. And the minimum allowance is not a procurement on that crop. You can make any allowance, but if there is no procurement, then there is no benefit. There is one. The minimum allowance is less than the average, and the asset procurement is less. Secondly, there is no new way back. Majority of the farmers are indicted, who are in debt. And the 4 lakhs that I have done in the country, I have gone to 15-16 countries and there are 1 thing about all of them, debt. And that debt is more than private loan. The amount of debt is more than 20% to 60% and the amount of the debt is more than the amount of the loan. And the third thing is that the majority of the people in our country are indicted. The land in our country has a social status, but there is no land in our country. There was no land in Adibasi, but the forestry tax is not being paid to them. And the land in our country has more than 35-40% of the people who don't have land. So, there is no way back to the land. So, all of you, give the land to the farmers, give them a place for the homeless, and give the forestry tax to the farmers. We have three main demands. Along with that, our farmers have 5,000 rupees pension, and then, to reduce the costs and expenses, all of these are our demands. We started working on 10 crore signatures with these demands. It has been going on for the past three months. We are taking signatures from the houses of the farmers. This means that we can tell them directly why we will fill the jail. There is a direct contact with the farmers. After that, we are collecting the money from the collector. The Prime Minister has a letter written on it. There are five demands. Come and sign it and send it to the collector. So, he will collect the money and send it to the Prime Minister. After that, on 9th August, the action program that we have taken is our Jail Bharu. The preparation for the Jail Bharu is going on very fast. We will tell you the details after a while. Ashok, on 2nd April, there was a call from the Dalit organizations of Bharat Band. And there was a lot of violence in it. It was attacked by the upper class. Many people have been given an empty case. What are the main demands of this call on 9th August? First of all, I would like to clarify that in most media, violence is mentioned in the context of 2nd April. I want to keep it in front of you. In the context of 2nd April, 11 people were killed. 11 out of 11 were Dalits. And that is why I want to say that the people who do violence are not killed. They are attacked and attacked by us. I want to talk about the state. I think the state was in collusion with the political parties of the state. There was a relationship between the police and the local political party actors. That is why all this happened. So the Bhajpa people, Vishwendu Parishad, RSS and Bajrang Dal were never happy with the Dalits. Secondly, as far as the call of 9th August is concerned, we had hoped from the government that after 2nd April, when the Dalits were seen angry in the state, the government would think of that anger. And since these people say that we have made the name of the 5th of Dr. Mirgir, we are giving our lives for the Dalits, so I think the government that gives their lives for the Dalits will think of the 20 issues of the Dalits in 2nd April. But on 30th July, the last date that we gave our time to the government, on 30th July, the government did not do anything better than that. So the 20 demands that we have, the first demand is that all the Dalits that were in Saharanpur's Shabbirpur, were burnt and burnt there. They were attacked there. So we have asked for our first demand. And after the protest, when people protested, 5 people were locked up in the state. There are Chandrasekhar Azad, Sonu, Shabbirpur's elected prime minister, Shiv Kumar, the new leader of Mujaffanagar, Nita Upkar Bawre. And on 2nd April, when the protest took place in Meerut, the SP of that place, which has been destroyed, the SP has taken a full MLA there, and put it on them as well. So our first demand is that all the Dalits should be removed and they should be freed from jail. Our second demand is that after 2nd April, about 20,000 people have been arrested. They have been charged with false charges. Even the children have not been spared from the charges. So our second demand is that all the people should be freed. They should be removed from all the charges. Along with that, whenever such a thing happens, the government enquires. Until now, no government has enquired about who was the culprit. So our demand is that the judicial inquiry should be done so that after 2nd April, there will be a talk of milk and water. Our third demand is that the Sherul Tribe Prevention of Attrust Act which the Supreme Court has heard about without any evidence and has decided the 30 crore people's future. The act should be passed to the parliament in this parliamentary session. So that its sanctity, social justice character should be maintained. Apart from that, our demand is that the Reservation in Promotion should be done by the government. It is being heard since 3 August. So our demand is that the judicial inquiry should be done so that neither the court nor the women nor the women should go to court. So our demand is that the government should set up the Indian Judicial Service on the tune of civil service so that the society can come into it at any time. As Mr. Hanan Mullah has said, we also demand that every person on the land should be of any caste or religion or caste. Every person on the land should be given 5 acres of land for farming in the village. Jai Bheem has been going on for a long time of the Dalit Diwas. And the land in the city has been taken away by a lot of people. Those who don't have a place to build a house should be given a place. We demand that the daily labour of Manrega should be given 500 rupees per day. We are asking for a 30% protection for women. We are also asking for a lot of other demands. We are also asking that the women who live more than 80% of the country's land should be in the private area. But the private area in 2006, CII and ASHO CHAMP voluntarily accepted that they would apply for affirmative action. Their voluntary actions were not done by them. They didn't give any data, they were just a dacoit. That's why we demand that the government bring the law in Parliament and apply for affirmative action through the law. We have a lot of demands but I don't want to say that right now. I haven't done it. Can you throw some light on the demands that you are raising on the 9th of August program? Right. You see, all the people in the country and the three of us who have been deprived of work the aim of this was that we were doing our own leg-leg movement. But the government is not listening. Like my two friends have told you about their issues. There are a lot of issues they have taken before. But with the three issues we are telling the government and with the 12 issues we are telling the government to solve them as soon as possible. The relationship between one rank one pension is being discussed including Prime Minister that we have given one rank one pension. Whereas on the ground they haven't given one rank one pension. One rank one pension I want to explain to the people in the country that we haven't made the two parts of the definition that the government has made we haven't given the definition to them. The government has made this definition that whatever pension retirees if they have one rank one and they have done a service like a year of service they should get a pension like that. Whenever they retire the second part is that whenever the pension they will pass it to everyone. This means that bridging the gap between the current and the past pensioners all the pensioners should get that pension. Now what has the government done? The government broke the first one and ended the second one these two parts. They said that we don't automatically pass to pass pensioners. We are saying that equalization we will do at some regular intervals periodic intervals and they said that we have this one rank one pension on our side. It is not one rank one pension it is one rank one pension and seven pension. Because they have put five years to this periodic interval so this is not the case. So the whole country and the whole world and our soldiers you will remember that on 15th September 2013 they made a promise to us that if we had made our government in 2004 then we would have given it to them. There is only one question that if you sanctioned it we did not give it as I told you earlier that the committee of secretaries made this definition in 2009 after that in 2011 they also made this definition. After that the U.P.A. passed it and on 26th February 2014 the government got a notification on this. But they did not give it to them. The new government came and they also gave this definition and after that a question was raised on 2 December 2014 and at that time the minister of defense state said this definition when they did it on 7th November 2015 they did not give it to them. This is our problem and we say to the government that until we do not give the actual 1 rank 1 pension then this is not the 1 rank 1 pension which you have made a promise to us. One is this. The other point they told us that our second point is that in 1947 there was a degradation of our army there was a downgradation there was no equivalence to the rank structure like a soldier who is a member of a whole country the last 11 countries army of the whole country and they were kept at a grade less than even peon. Our soldier was 2000 and minimum peon was 22 rupees. The grade 2 which is the guest officer was 4000 and our other even police, even CRPF this is our second degradation and every day the downgradation is going on. We say stop the downgradation the third point we have just started is to open the cantonments think about our cantonment our young man who has come from a village and has got a house in the cantonment his children are young and he is sitting on the border where he lives his daughter-in-law so this was a cantonment culture I don't know why he did this the big land to give it to builders to use it more so we have taken 3 issues 3 of them with 12 issues we are telling the government to complete them as soon as possible we will support the 9th generation and we will spread it and the whole country will be aware of it these 3 issues because if you see these mob violence, mob lynching basically in the name of cow beef the most painful work the work of a farmer is much more painful there is a demand for women reservation women's association has extended their solidarity these 3 demands can be explained a little more this is lynching Supreme court has said there is violence there is no such bloodshed in the name of religion it is happening it happens one after the other Alwar has become an epic center the place where he is beating the government how can you do this this is against our constitution this is the second women's association women's association has been going on for long 33% of women's association we are talking about the women's association the bill was not passed it was passed the right of women the right of the women we have given it the name of the people the right of women but the crime it is not being considered this is for women and the third in the name of the constitution all our records will be stolen this is a big danger this is our development development program welfare program a lot of people are being beaten this is why there are three these three are general this is 12 demands but our demand is one but this time we have already given some calls we have given calls to the farmers to the jails they have called to India but when we have got it is not possible to change this call that is why we have done we will be on the same path the government is our target the enemies of the three are the government the three of us all three of us but we have one religion but our demand is one but the action is a little different we have decided to fill the jails we have decided to fill 400 jails and there will be 120 jails where there will be 5,000 to 15,000 people we are cutting 10,000 people and after that we are moving ahead and our friends are supporting us this is our program and they have a separate call so synchronization of action will take place in one day the government will get down on the way with its own demand but it is a separate action we are clarifying this and there will be another history there was a history from 9th august and this time in 9th august hundreds of thousands of people will get down on the way the warning that the government will raise for India will also be a new history in 9th august government of misgovernance that is the point which we want to highlight it is a government of misgovernance we want governments which are accountable which will be responsible to the people for whom they will brought them over there but on ground when we see everywhere there are deprived sections of society you take women, you take youth 2 crore jobs every year where are they not even 1 lakhs filled up where is my youth they are also running around women they have been crying for 33% reservation similarly Kisan, Javan Kisan Javan is one of the same thing 80% of the Kisan are also Javans our children are all over the countryside so we request the government that we want a responsible government we want government which functions on ground and listens to the people the voice of the people that is what is a Haq Ki Awaaz these three of us have decided to move forward Ashok ji this is my last question I think this is the first time in the history of India that Javan, Kisan and the social and social movements have tried to synchronise different movements but as far as the politics of Bhajpa is seen and dictates it on one side we give that statement that we are talking about the development of everyone and on the other their ministers and their MLAs, MPs are giving statements about reservation an important concern is seen by the government that RSS is giving statements about reservation what are your thoughts on this and what are the preparations for this movement you have said that I agree with this that this government the character of this government the character of Bhajpa the thought of them was neither in the rights of the Dalits nor will it be the thought of Bhajpa the voice of Bhajpa whether it be Kisan or Javan their thought is a small circle of thinking for them the youth of the battlefield is just an Indian and their nationality in that nationality in that nationality they only believe that if the border power is Muslim then we have to fight it we have to fight it with others I want to say that the question of reservation of Bhajpa everyone knows that youth for inequality youth for equality they used to run the party of the Indian people they used to run the RSS so their thought is against the RAC against the society against the society against the people is their politics but what we have decided because I want to remind you that there is a long history in this country in this long history the Dalits have not lost they have not lost we have seen a big empire we have seen a big empire we have seen the empire of Ram we have seen the empire of Mahabharat we have seen all the youth in all the youth we have to move forward on our hard work on our strength we have to we have to tell the question of reservation reservation is a way to bring justice and equality between the people I want to tell you the Dalit did not ask if someone had asked for the first time in the first place the Dalits did not ask for reservation we are asking if you are in this country if you are a people then don't establish a social people don't establish an artistic people then the principles of the people the principles of the people you share it with the public I think this government is against the people and our the Dalit society the Dalit society whoever will come on the path of the people we will fight with that and I also want to tell that this is a people country which today in different universities in different institutions of governance in parliament outside the parliament people reach all the places people go and go if this was not a people country then we don't reach one person so we are clear our perspective is clear we know the idea of the RSS the idea of the Bajba that is based on the Manuwa that is based on the Gaira Barabari that is based on the Brahmanwa and you also know that the structure of the RSS in that structure whenever you ask them no we don't believe in the Jat they don't believe but according to the Jat the person according to the Jat according to the Pracharak we don't believe in the Jat and we are ready that we have called on 9th August as Comrade Hanan Mulla said our synchronized call on one side we will arrest we will stop the other side we will stand with them we will stand with them now 9th August is not the end 9th August is the beginning and now what will be the beginning we will tell this to the 9th August as Comrade Hanan Mulla said that after 9th August on the road of India for the first time such a question will come that the government will get the answers to and we want to say that we will not stop Thank you very much for giving time and the news click will cover such issues with you Thank you The 3 organizations have given a call and they are going to come on the streets on 9th August Keep following news click for these movements for coverage of these movements and these protests then they should mend their ways That's all the time we have for today Keep following news click