 here here here present yes yes for all that you've done for his lord for health and strength all the potential you've given to each of us and of course to the city of ours that continues to expand itself in a very positive way bless us let's this meeting that we gather here today to discuss the issues of this city and particularly our budget bless us and keep us we ask it in your name and every heart said amen Brennan just asked me if this is all I already gave us so it's going to look very similar but we want to have the opportunity for any remaining questions to be answered etc and a memo that you all utilize with your constituents going forward to what's hopefully the second reading of the budget final reading on so with that we'll begin the FY 22 23 budget wrap-up with Missy Kaufman budget program management grants director good afternoon thank you miss Wilson thank you mayor as miss Wilson mentioned some of this material obviously will be familiar from last week's conversations and the conversations you've had over the past month those department heads have presented and as we've brought you different pieces of information covering our fiscal year 22 23 proposed budget so what we've tried to do now is is be able to be able to highlight those things that are calling out some things that are maybe of interest and summarizing a few other points I will go through as much detail as you were interested in on this information that you have or and can skip through those areas that that we have already covered so again the proposed budget for the operating budget is 391 million and our capital improvement program budget for the coming year is 52 million what we wanted to point out as well in this discussions for today are highlighting various things and they're included in the budget or provided for in the budget that address city council strategic objectives starting with economic development of course we yes sir no so there's no general fund capital projects yet those that conversations coming in July this is right that's not it's just what's been presented and moved forward at this point you're coming back in July for additional discussions for other that's a good point we can do that so again highlighting a few things from the strategic strategic objectives and starting with economic growth of course discussions regarding restructure of economic development functions to focus on business recruitment retention initiatives to promote a business friendly environment there's a restructure of the department and those services and consolidation of existing resources safe communities competitive pay plan for police officers of course the attraction and retaining of police officers has been a top priority for this council and city manager and chief so this pay structure is designed to help be able to attract and retain our police officers planned upgrade of our body worn cameras which includes body worn cameras as well as some other components that makes for sort of more of a streamlined process all the way through our tasers and other other other connections with our police department's equipment rollout of the upgraded city city wide security cameras it's about a hundred and sixty different camera boxes in each box contains multiple cameras so again that's a multiple number of cameras throughout the system throughout the city which helps to complete the rollout and upgraded of our our utilization of the real-time crime center and then accreditation renewal renewal for our 911 emergency communications and our fire department are both going through reaccreditation this coming year just for the good of the group I know that we discuss the restructure of economic development in the committee I didn't know has everyone has the full council been updated on that at some do y'all care yeah I was gonna say I mean I know that we discussed it in the committee but the new structure if someone could go over the new structure for the council members who aren't on the economic development committee and one of the work sessions we did touch upon it and maybe we need I pull it up and highlight it but it's essentially and I think I've talked to you all individually about the structure focusing more as you all referenced in your presser yesterday a focus on project manager to start off with a recruiter and a real estate manager those would be the three FTEs associated with economic development going forward and I think there's been a thought process to see how we do with that number of project managers and recruiters to start with and if it's working well based off the energy that I think you all are trying to generate the renewed focus on the business friendly initiatives and getting the conditions right for growth and development then we would entertain adding additional positions as we go and into the next budget season but right now that that's where we are the first person let me ask is the initiatives yes and the persons coming on board the three person the three positions that you just named how identify both in terms of their job description will they will they do I mean I know what a real estate person does how would how does that relate to the job those three positions so I think they stop the discussions we've had with you all in the committee and then the directives that we've been given a staff to implement the business friendly initiatives there seems to be a focus by well the committee and so I hadn't heard any other anything otherwise from the full council to really have a hands-on approach to a project manager with any development any small or large businesses that just focus on retail and hospitality and restaurants and so the recruiter would go out and look for these opportunities and bring them to Columbia and once they're here if the conditions are right the project manager really ought to shepherd those those opportunities through for a potential developer or whomever it might be I think the real estate focus is not only internal to the city as far as opportunities for parcels we may have there's been a lot of talk about affordable housing and infill in Columbia and I think that there are related entities who hold parcels in Columbia that while the city isn't a property owner and can't mandate anyone do anything we potentially could be in a position to help facilitate whether it's churches or whomever might have all of these parcels that they're sitting on that could be right for development we don't really have someone right now who's focused on that every day really marshaling the opportunities through going to potential property owners and suggesting that would you be interested if you've got a private developer who wants to infuse capital into the situation it could potentially be a win-win for not only us but also other property owners who may be sitting on parcels so those are some of the things that were discussed with me as far as the role of the real estate manager you may want to talk more with your colleagues that a Mr. Taylor had a lot of input on this and the mayor has definitely been working through some ideas I know with the parcels and promoting affordable housing infills so that's where the the information that's the way the information was presented to me positions we don't have currently a project manager or recruiter or real estate manager in the economic development office we're not looking to add personnel over where we are today correct it wouldn't necessarily be existing personnel there would be existing positions that would be reclassified I guess the reason I'm asking is that we're on the final leg of those budget concern that's already included I mean I'm not a part of the economic yes sir part of absolutely and you and I were presented this to you on your staffing report that I gave you all I think the last time it shows if you go to the economic development line it shows how many FTEs were in economic development previously and then what's proposed but it's really I think a net really and there's gonna be one less position to be honest with you in economic development because they used to have a communications person and when we talked about streamlining with communications with public relations and the different functions that you all felt were kind of scattered throughout the departments one of those was a communications person in economic development and so if you recall that Reverend Dallard the retreat one of the discussions was about making sure there's this consistent brand even when it comes to economic development and so as we were going through this process we said okay well that communications position is vacant and so we can move that position to public relations and of course the public relations component is going to have to have someone dedicated to the economic development collateral and the different materials that are going to also have to be developed no they're great questions no great questions right well no all I was saying is but no that's why I brought it up because I realized we discussed it in committee but after we made our announcements I realized everybody on council didn't understand didn't understand everything that went on that's what I'm saying yeah in the midst of our final leg of I want to make sure that all bases are covered and not talking about an amendment if that's not the case let me can I just let me clarify I think I can help you I think we pretty much kept the budget the same as last year in that correct there's no increase that's what I say it's about this is the same it will be a kind of a reshuffling of positions and personnel we're looking to probably relocate hopefully relocate the office from the truest building into City Hall but they have direct access to city management and city leaders I think what you'll end up seeing happen is where we may not replace some folks that who have left that may fall into more travel budget than we've had before we're gonna go get the capital it and guess what we're gonna go do we're gonna go tell the story yeah but that's that's the most important I know and that's what this is about and I don't think you all made an amendment to this agenda that I hadn't I needed for it said organizational the executive session item that needed to be added so I would like y'all to do that and that will maybe help shed a little more light I don't know that we need to keep going down this path right now about the positions but to your point Reverend Dow as far as the bottom line budget number the number isn't increased no sorry but the positions are different and that's something that I think it obviously requires some clarity by some of you all so I had added that to executive session but I don't think y'all made that amendment for me I'm glad Ms. Herbert brought it up thank you I have a question the build project manager position we have a project manager now is that the same position we're just gonna relocate it if I if we could talk about these things executive session that would probably be better but that that person is a business liaison that I think you're talking about Mr. DeVall and yes that's a very similar I will withdraw that question and I don't know does he need to make the most amendment now or is that before they at the end is that okay well Erica was saying okay thank you so you want to do that now Mr. Mayor I move we go into executive session for discussion of employment of an employee pursuing to seco 30-4 that's 70 a1 organizational review and then I amend my motion to say that it is added to the agenda brain fog rain fog it's a true thing I can tell you I just wanted to make sure you all get it in the right order yes I appreciate that second hi yes hi what are we voting on we do it I'm ending the measure I want to make sure we're in order we are in it I'm ending the agenda you're mending the agenda to put in an executive yes and then and I will repeat that yes yes I thank you communications centralization of existing resources has been discussed with regards to focusing on citywide marketing and a our social media platforms to be able to focus on branding consistency in our branding and marketing communications and of course as Miss Wilson mentioned being able to focus on our real estate and economic development initiatives as well beautification and appearances with three code enforcement officers that are added into this budget those are new positions of course they will be focusing on addressing blight nuisance informant enforcement and neighborhood improvement sweeps there's one focused for residential as well as commercial yes sir I had somewhere written down we were adding for yeah though I'm trying to think of where the four came from but it's three that we've added for this year okay and tell me again there was what you just that they are that their focus of course is addressing blight being able to proactively address code enforcement issues before they become issues as well as some of the neighborhood sweeps thank you miss Wilson and also under this category just referencing the contract of how it works has with keep the Midlands beautiful which of course utilizes community input for beautification projects I'm having community engagement in those areas and others of account of interest to city council so those are a couple of things that we're doing that that address the public's input in helping to keep our city clean missy question about that you mentioned contract what is the amount of that contract 20,000 20,000 annually yes sir is this I mean is this our approach that picking up litter and I mean was no that's just a minute ongoing coordination with them that we have done in years I think the discussions is there will be more conversations of expanding some of these some of these types of activities this is just an example of the funding for those examples that we want to get to the litter control citywide is that funding buried in the public works budget specifically so one of the items on your follow-up discussions for the July conversation is some additional allocations from the from for some sub supplemental projects that would be discussed at that time so this budget here is basically maintaining some of our services this is just one of those areas this regard to litter these are just two examples of addressing for my brain for the partnership with keep them beautiful is that $20,000 coming from them to us to them us to them I also want to note for the the record that in terms of beautification appearance something that we talked about under the facilities management budget was to continue to make sure that our buildings look good and our sparkling clean and pressure wash so I'd like for that to be reflected as well that's a good point as well as park our parking garages and the work that's coming down our parking garages is another another good point to add there thank you and of course moving on with our built infrastructure we are doing the capital replacement which is built infrastructure but it is part of our capital program and then the capital improvement program for our water system our wastewater system storm drains and our parking system are reflected in this budget and as Council Mantella has pointed out we'll be discussing general capital projects in your July council meeting as well and of course vibrant community city council reinstated the hospitality tax committee of course many of the programs and events that are funded through the has hospitality tax committee add to the vitality of our city bringing in tourists and helping to promote all the wonderful things that we have going on throughout our community and then reinstated community promotions grant we will look forward to conversations with city council to talk more specifically about the type of activities you would be interested in funding that meet city council strategic strategic outcomes all right of course we like to point out that the budget supports a number of our sir our entire organization just a little bit of city by the numbers as we like to call this slide and information about the different components of our of the city's operations moving on to the general fund I know this was of a particular interest to city council and so I'm following along both on the PowerPoint some of this is the same some information you've seen before some of it's just consolidated a little more compactly so that it helps to describe some of the inclusions in this budget as well as some of the increases so if you're following along on the memo is slide 3 page 3 or slide wise is slide 9 of course as we've pointed out the proposed general fund budget is 164 million this is a net increase of 9.2 over the next few slides we'll talk a little bit about what's made up that 9.2 million dollar increase in this proposed budget in terms of our revenues just sort of highlighting that property taxes and business license and permits account for 77% of the total general fund source of revenues the transfers in our budget at 22.9 million which is a slight increase of 711,000 a right at three and a half percent comparatively the transfers in is about make up about 14% of our total budget income in the general fund which is in line with prior years make it focus too much on this slide this is comparing our expenditures to the current year budget of 155 million to next year's budget of 164 as pointed out the person the different categories of the budget and now I'm moving along in the memos highlighting slide starting in on page 5 the the different categories of the budget and while we're showing this some breakout of the categories in the general fund all the departments all of the different funds with have these different categories of cost personnel supplies services capital non-departmental and transfers out in the general fund 68% of the or 63% of the total general fund budget is for personnel services and of that 63% about 38% is for fringes of employee cost and of course the general fund supports the the general services of the of the city if you will police department city portion of our fire department 911 parts recreation municipal court emergency operations general management information technology HR the different functions community and then the general fund portion of community development in our development planning services this Wilson I want to talk about the public works line item is it can can staff prepare a maintenance show us a maintenance plan that shows us how we're going to catch up with our not with the way our roads are littered everything I see the nine and a half percent increase did we budget more for for more manpower more hours committed to that it I mean it's city-wide so it's of course at the end of the day DOT supposed to do it so we have to shoulder it and I just want to make sure that we have a working plan to address that because I think that is one of all of our concerns I would say that because public works is so heavy personnel and it's been accomplishing this budget is going to accomplish any of those increases that we did within the budget we're currently in when we raise the minimum wage level of the lower lower lower earner in the city of course the public work department in the impact of what we want to do in July with the combination between ARPA dollars as well as whatever small amount of fund balance we want to look at some programs that are sustainable as well as I think there's been a discussion about the gateways and of course the little program that you have suggested so we'll be able to create a corridors gateway major thoroughfares maintenance schedule that we know that Garner's very we know that Rosewood is getting the attention from public works it needs monthly I think that also I would like to piggyback on will that as we talk about this youthful offenders other offenders folks we need to put back the community service portion of it to a lot of communities have gone back to using that is to help supplement the litter programs and the cleanup programs and I think we need to make sure that as we move forward discussing judges and so forth working with our prosecution our public defenders and everybody really to to utilize some folks who are low offenses and give them the option to help clean up our community we can't it can't be a hundred percent on public works and the other divisions I think we need to utilize some of that and we've seen great progress with that in other communities and homelessness as we continue to work on the task force I think we need to include all that in the conversation yeah I completely agree Mr. Mayor to Mr. Taylor's point as well educating property owners what their expectate what our expectations for them to keep up there yes so I know that we had talked about the public education campaign on that something that I think would help out a lot with with the general appearance of a lot of these corridors so just for my clarification so the increase in public works is not an increase in number of staff but it reflects the increase in pay right there's not increase in staff input in the public worst apartment well there's a number of factors this increasing public works but the pay is one of them but it does technically have an increase in hired staff because if we were under staff there like we were earlier in the year early in the last fiscal year I mean we've budgeted to work for those replacements to be on staff plus the 10% so it's employee numbers that's correct yes so I'll move on then to comparison of the budget over the past couple years this was addressing one of the questions that Reverend McDowell asked during the public hearing about general government so thought it was helpful to be able to describe and demonstrate here in terms of comparison the question was asked about the increase in general government and what the increases look like over the prior two years so this slide I know it's a lot on it is demonstrating the general fund budget from 19 fiscal year in 1922 the proposed budget of fiscal year 22 23 if you compare the fiscal year 1920 budget to the proposed budget it's a net increase of three million dollars over from 1920 to this proposed budget that we're coming into now the increase of nine million dollars we'll talk through leading in to the next few slides as far as the increases specifically in general government a large portion of that increase is the reflection in the included in the general government sort of collapsed number is our general services or support services department they count for a little more than two million dollars of the increase which is attributed to the addition of the 14-1 main excuse me 14-1 Washington Street building operations as well as operations of 22 21 divine that have been added the other addition in the support services budget is reinstatement of another point to highlight under the strategic outcomes is the replacement roof program that's in our public that for city facilities that's included in general services budget he has a Kelvin as a schedule of roofs to be replaced throughout the city different city facilities and so that the there's funding of five hundred forty thousand dollars that allows a replacement schedule of so many buildings throughout the year and I ask your question just about 14-1 we're receiving rent income there correct we are and so and some other income I mean are we charging that against these operating costs so there is a lot of net operating costs and I'm just curious how much that net operating cost differential might be so the net is about two hundred thousand dollars short for difference between the revenue coming in versus the projected cost for operations so you can see obviously over from fiscal year nineteen twenty to fiscal year twenty two twenty three the variation is much smaller whenever you account for sort of a pre-pandemic budget and then taking our budget through the two years of the pandemic and the now coming out of the pandemic obviously you know we suspended our capital improvement replacement program for a year was a part of it and then also to utilizing prior actuals to be able to base budgets on for fiscal year twenty twenty one any questions about this comparison are the moving forward just highlighting the different components of what make up the nine million dollar increase in the budget of the total nine point nine nine point two million dollar increase seven point seven of that is for public safety which includes the police department's budget technology additions to include their body worn camera additions the security what the citywide security cameras as well as the proposed increase in the changes for the pay structure is any of that area money or less over and above area so the general fund budget includes an allocation of two million dollars from area it's not in it's not included for a specific item per se but seven point seven is included to me sure I mean the two yeah I mean yeah I mean the revenues of the general fund aren't designated to a specific font purpose in this case other than lease proceeds for capital about like the AR a funding for the path finders that is designated specifically because that meets a specific program of the AR a whereas the funds that we're utilizing for area in this budget are really taken from the across-the-board revenue allocation that's being considered which means this doesn't have to be designated for a specific purpose it's just lost revenue money included in the seven point seven no sir that separate we are tracking those as a grant it is this over and above we track those costs grant separate as part of a grant so those would be green activities so the two hundred thousand of the fire extraction and safety equipment we also allocated some of that grant money so that right so the AR a money in for fire department included the bunker gear which is for the fire fighters as well as consideration for repairs to fire facilities those funds were not yet allocated they were proposed those those will be part of the conversations coming back you and Jala when we talk about general capital projects so the only thing designated this at this point from AR a for fire is for the second set of bunker gear and then also to there was the allocation for the or consideration for the exhaust systems in our in our in our fire department stations so that's a little different than this is actual gear and equipment that the firefighters would use for on on calls emergency calls are you asking me if it's an issue or you're asking me if it's included in if there's anything included separate in the budget there are not additional funds in the budget for adjustments for there are not additional adjustments in the budget understood yes sir well I'm gonna bring it up again here you really noted thank you and I just wanted to add going forward we probably need to consider how we do how we look at our first responders because I was here when the fire department got an increase in the police didn't and so I think going forward we do have to take some consideration first responders of first responders and have a maybe a better approach because we want to make sure that morale is not impacted and people don't we want to make sure that they know that they're valued so we probably have a need to have a more strategic approach in how we treat the different areas but what I'm not saying is that we definitely I don't know if we I wouldn't commit to doing them at the same time because I don't know if that's financially possible yeah so but but I do think that we we do have to consider that considering things going forward I think that we I would encourage you and we're happy to have the conversations about the non-sworn personnel in public safety because you're right Councilman Herbert there have been years that police got an increase in another year that fire got increased in none of those years for my recollection of the non-sworn personnel gotten increases at the same time so you know and then they're the functions of public worst employees which we'd like to buy some of that this year we really appreciate but the clean the cleanliness and safety of a community are also determined by other general fund departments that have in many years when the public safety departments have gotten increases sacrifice so it's definitely a hard discussion to have and and to have it equitably I would just say that well I think you're right miss Wilson go ahead no go ahead I think you're right miss Wilson I think the conversation needs to be inclusive needs to be it needs to be proactive it needs to be a conversation that involves not only leasman vitamin the other workers also now I know that's beyond our reach right now we trying to get through this budget but I think we cannot negate the conversation and not having that conversation and I think as soon as we can at least start barking up that tree that gives us the flexibility to see what our options are so yes ma'am thank you very much you're welcome I was just going to say but you know future conversations but we also have to remember that we haven't instituted and haven't used the merit system and one who's talked to a great portion of our employees one-on-one there is some heartburn about across the board increases when people aren't equally working and together so there are a lot of discussions we need to have we can't just blindside just say it's equitable because it's not equitable so I think as we move forward we need to have a true conversation and making sure that we're doing the evaluations and we're instituting the programs that are necessary but we are have have made very big strides in this budget over the year and we'll continue to have conversations moving forward moving on with public works as we've talked about a few things already with regards to public works as mentioned some of the increases in public works is analyzing the costs that were added to the current year both increasing pay to fourteen fifty was part of that as well as other costs associated with fuel increases electricity increases for which affect our street lights and other features there's some additional costs at our animal shelter towards continuation of our no kill operations with additional vaccines and preventative maintenance that's considered best practice in this area and then also something that was added over the recent year was fifty thousand dollars for sidewalk grinding for contracted which helps take the pressures off of some of the staff to be able to contribute to do some of that work through contracted labor parks and recreation parks recreation of all shows a net reduction a lot of what we will be talking about parts of creation will be coming up in the conversation in July with regards to our capital improvement program and a number of improvements with the park facilities maintenance improvement program they as we know they did add a couple of activities over the year pickleball courts have been opened yes pickleball courts I know have been a popular the the access to the Saluta Saluta Riverwalk and the completion of Hyatt Park phase one of course as mentioned previously parks and recreation will be utilizing more of our city works as we continue to roll out through throughout more departments utilizing city works our work order system general services as I've mentioned part of their increase in reflects the addition of the Washington Street and 2221 divine and our annual replacement of our roof program that had been suspended previously some other points of highlight as many of which have been mentioned is our public works budget excuse me public relations department budget reflects a centralization of existing resources is not new resources that sort of services that have been moved in as well as technology improvements for customer service service delivery and business friendly environment so I do have one question yes you got to get moving too fast for me one point for the toll increase session with the potential operation recent quite 1401 main street complex in 2221 divide we said just a second ago that 1401 was a net $200,000 we have about a million dollars for revenue so is that means tell me what that means about 2221 2221 is about 200 175 or 200,000 of the four 1.4 million dollar increase and revenues from 1401 main is a million so Washington Street operations is about 1.2 and revenue is about 1 million so that's the net of 200,000 that's the cost or is that this is the cost that's what I'm saying I don't quite understand it because I'm reading that maybe I'm reading it to literally more than 1.4 million of the total increases associated with the expense for operational reasoning for a 1401 main and 2221 divide yeah this doesn't show the income I can add so yes so part of this one point form one part of this 1.4 million is offset with an eight with revenues of one million okay would that help I understand where you come from but that's a little bit tricky right there well it at this point when we're talking about what's increased into the expenditure says it's an increase on the revenues as well increase on the expenses so I do so I think I will I will add that point here in the that one part of that 1.4 is offset with a revenue line of one million would that help to clarify sometimes we do you do get very literal I mean keeping this expenses and the other revenue but certainly there's opportunities to to better clarify I'm always looking for better ways to sort of clarify the message that we are making with regards to the budget as a plan because that's what this is a plan and we've talked several times about the capital replacement program of nine million dollars this is the and that's another conversation that's been asked to come up in more detail in future conversations with city council or work sessions is our replacement program for our our general fund rolling stock so this includes about a hundred and twenty different pieces of equipment any other conversations about the general fund the remainder of the discussions is regarding the other parts of our operating budget and our capital improvement program again these are conversations we've had over the past several months so just sort of summarizing again the other funds of our budget which water and sewer fund is 185 million no rate increase is included in this budget is a net increase of about 2.4 million or 1% over the prior year revenue projects just our moderate growth in customer base as well as assumes our normal consumption of water of course water makes up the majority of the source of revenue for the water and sewer fund of course water and sewer fund budget is funded with water water revenue sales revenues and sewer sales revenues and then a smaller portion for different fines and of course interest the operating budget of our water and sewer fund is 104 million obviously a large portion of the water and sewer fund budget is for debt service related to our capital improvement program as well as the cash portion of our capital improvement program so of the of the 104 million utilities makes up the largest portion of that operating budget utilities includes our to water treatment plants our wastewater plant it also includes our water quality and compliance it also includes our water maintenance and distribution as well as our wastewater maintenance and distribution that would be the repair crews another portion a debt service of course makes up the next largest component of the water and sewer operating budget and then going from there engineering transfers to CIP and then general government this budget includes 22.6 million in cash from the water and sewer operating budget for the capital improvement program our stormwater budget is proposed at 16 million of course the stormwater budget is funded with the stormwater utility fee on city residents this budget is increased a little a little over 3% about $500,000 over the current year budget again no rate increase is included in the stormwater proposed budget this year it is we have right we are recommending to suspend the fifth year of a five-year rate adjustment plan as we evaluate our cap on permit program and where our remaining needs are with our improvement program from several years ago that was considered for 90 million of course the stormwater budget reflects the operations of the stormwater system and the departments that make up that include primarily our public works department and some portions for engineering and of course the public works departments reflects the storm drain crews that help maintain our stormwater system the operating budget is right at 7.8 million which is about 5% increase over the current year budget debt services running about 2.4 million again that's existing debt that is not for any new or additional debt so this is based on the debt service schedules transfers out is about 5.7 million of which 5.1 million is towards is cash towards our cap on permit program for the stormwater program our parking fund budget is at 10.2 million of course operates the these funds this budget is for the operations of our parking system includes our parking decks our parking lots parking meters parking facilities parking maintenance and even enforcement in addition to this year's budget is the operations of two additional to two new decks freed street and several street decks have been added into the budget for this coming year and this budget does use one million from fund balance towards a cap on permit program just a question for clarification we do have a parking fund study that's should be to us in September that does so right this budget doesn't assume any rate increases anywhere correct that's right no so I'm sorry the freed and several drug decks are just two new operations of the parking fund the one million dollar increase is for we'll get through that in a minute that's for the cap on permit program for the parking fund it's separate from so it's eyeballing free is for separate no it is the CIP for parking but it's not related to several or freed those are decks that were opened in this coming year so what's included in this budget is the operations of those decks just for clarification along what is when you're you're you're projecting the revenue to be totally flat no new revenue from free no new revenue from there is new revenues what maybe yeah let me go back and clarify that piece so the budget for parking fund is basically flat from the current year but this year's budget did include funding from American Rescue Plan funds so we have not included any American Rescue Plan funds in this budget instead the the the offset of the American Rescue Plans is revenue from the parking system and the addition of the revenue from freed straight and sample how much the net how much was they are a money it's a little more than a million in the current year maybe closer to two okay so you are projecting a million dollars of new parking revenue new parking is 2.7 million actually of new parking revenue it's new new revenue in the sense of collections from prior years being so low and so now we're projecting closer to normal collection rates now that businesses are back parking and we're charging for parking and folks are visiting and getting tickets and paying for garages no no I'm finished well I just had just I'm trying to make sure on Joe's I'm Councilman Taylor's question are you asking are we gonna see additional revenue because we have two new parking garages coming in I'm really not at all we're gonna see additional revenue thing is I guess the what I'm asking is just for clarification is we're seeing we're seeing 2.7 million dollars worth of increase of revenue from parking that makes it the same because of a or a words last year you're saying it was the same money but it was 7.7 plus 2 million of AR a and this next year it's gonna be 9.7 all coming from the parking correct so the current year budget the current year budget and anticipated use of 2.7 million in revenues from parking from air a ARPA money however it's not subsidized is the best way to say this right we're not subsidizing this budget through revenue coming in different way our garages and meter should generate 2.7 million dollars more money fiscal 23 than they did in 22 correct no and part of was in the current year it was anticipated however collections are coming in stronger than what we originally projected in this current year budget so therefore we're not projecting to even utilize the 2.7 million dollars that we included so the budget for this year included anticipation of the use of 2.7 million ARPA funds revenues and collections are coming in stronger than we projected for just those revenues so we will not utilize the ARPA funds in this year's budget that were projected for parking it will come purely from the system well as part of what's contributing to the million dollars of we're able to utilize and fund balance for a capital improvement program for parking so ultimately the parking fund revenues this year reflect really no change in terms of actual collections into next year's projected budget project this year the next year projected budget reflects closer to current year actuals but that is another way to sort of state it mr. Taylor discreet so so the budget in court anticipated a circle a a use of ARPA funds in the current year budget we will be able to end this year's budget without the use of that money from ARP funds about them right we're projecting the question that's what I thought I heard you say and I may be wrong is that we're not gonna have to use the ARPA money in fiscal 22 right when mr. DeVall said well that money goes back into the ARPA fund we could spend on something else you said I thought it was staying in the general fund and you were gonna spend somewhere else where it was budget I'm sorry I thought he was saying that I thought I was mistaken the ARPA funds yes so we did not so there are no use of of ARPA funds for parking in the ARP proposed budget anymore which is still for council's consideration yes if we set up those funds back in the ARPA budget not necessarily in the parking budget I thought you were asking about parking fun right I think we've shown in prior in one of our past two conversations about ARPA funds we show reduction of that use of part of ARPA funds in the parking system all right moving forward so moving on into the capital improvement program again as mentioned the water our water capital improvement program is budgeted at 13 million water quality is at 62% with water plan at 19 and other other activities of 19% of course this doesn't take into account our existing CIP program that's already remains to be underway waste water program is budgeted at 27 million for our capital improvement program for this coming year with 61% being for capacity projects and 12% for rehabilitation one of the large projects for that is a Saluta River force main extension of 14 million FM is force main our stormwater capital improvement program is 11 million dollars in the coming year which again pointing out 5 million of that is for pen branch drainage improvements that would be one of the larger projects and then 3 million from North Tanglewood and of course if you can make out the map the different spots the areas of town that make up our stormwater capital improvement program in our parking system the million dollars for our parking system improvements includes our elevator replacement at two of our parking garages at the Sumter Street in the Lady Street decks and then of course the exterior painting and stucco repair for 400,000 at the Taylor Street deck and Lady Street deck if you may recall from Kelvin's conversation at one of our prior budget meetings his operating budget also includes some other maintenance type part program for our different parking garages as well right wrapping things up moving on into our special revenues for hospitality tax and accommodations tax missy really quickly for the parking system costs this is part of capital improvement and it's separate from the parking stuff we just talked about because that's the enterprise there this is also an enterprise but the capital budget is separate from the operating budget so this is part of the parking system cap improvement program we have operating and then capital that wraps up our enterprise enterprise funds moving into special revenues hospitality tax is budget at 12.7 million which is an increase of 2.7 or net the same as well because it also had reflected use of hospital of American rescue plane funds that are not included in this proposed budget much like the parking system revenue collections for the hospitality tax budget are coming in much stronger than we originally projected thankfully so the budget is proposed that's more in line with actual collections that we're seeing so far expenditures City Council has already allocated 3 million of the proposed budget for the hospitality tax committee proposed the remaining 3.5 million is pending City Council allocations which would include allocations to the hospitality tax line-on agencies that will be coming for you as well transfer to the general fund is remaining at 3.7 debt services is budgeted at 2.5 million dollars it is also based on existing debt schedules it's not for an additional debt or any new debt the existing debt accommodations tax which represents the state accommodations tax it's a budget of 2.6 million again it is a significant increase over the current year budget because these revenues are more reflective of what we are seeing actual collections for the accommodations tax and is closer in line to what we saw pre-pendemic expenditures are based on what is determined by state law the first 25,000 is a direct transfer to the general fund additional 5% that is for considered general purposes so we use sort of as general general fund dollars is 131 million 40 thousand of which will you have 31,000 right 131,000 not million I know you'll be getting a lot of phone calls 131,000 which is 5% the other allocations will also will be pending from City Council for consideration the committee has available 2.5 those committee recommendations will be coming to you as well along with hospitality tax so that rubs up the just I hear both ways on that 2.5 million is that restricted by state state statutes yes sir so then other restricted to the 95% or there's 60% 65% is dedicated for tourism related activities and marketing the other 30% is for related to convention center and other marketing as well but technically they're both related to loosely they're both related to tourism and marketing as well as sure I think it was also part of what we would be covering in in your no my reason I asked is that a curiosity I mean and again nothing new not because of anything in particular just just general information you know if we drop the budget from say from a two million five down to one to I think we owe it to the taxpayers to look at full range of what we can do for you just bump it right back up to two five sure when I hear about marketing programs for appearance and pride in the community and stuff like that I just like to see if it opens the door for us to do anything absolutely I will knock tonight we're talking just a second ago mr. Duvall about age tax and ruling it came out of Camden seven years ago basically all for all intents purpose said you about do whatever you want to it's kind of an interesting thing out there and I just I just like to see if we have some flexibility in what so so part of what happens with the accommodations tax that was set up several years ago was that both hospitality tax and accommodations tax did a grant program 15 or so years ago once the hospitality tax program was first approved 20 years ago and it sort of it took off and it was collecting more the organizations that were in accommodations tax were shifted to age tax city council decided to allocate the tourism dollars to CB the convention and visitors Bureau experience Columbia at 85% and to 15% to Lake Murray with the expectation that those two groups would help to do recruitment advertisement and promotion for the events of the hospitality tax I will say accommodations tax has a has a difference that are requirements one of the requirements of the accommodations tax is for that committee the there has to be a committee to make the allocations from accommodations tax of course it comes back to city council for consideration so that's what you'll see is the committee's allocation or recommendations that's just a recommendation so just remind council we'll get a recommendation we don't have to act on it at that at that time we should take it as for information as we learn a little bit more about the flexibility we have and those recruitment tools would be a good investment that takes us into the remaining budget decisions or discussions should they discussions rather than decisions necessarily but the June 21st council meeting is the hospitality tax committee and the accommodations tax committee both will be bringing their committee chairs plan to present to you their committee recommendations for allocations for fiscal year 22 23 topics that we have called together of city council's discussions for remaining budget yes sir just a follow-up question on the accommodations tax primarily I mean on the H tax we've already given them a number right you gave them a number we haven't given anybody number on the accommodation tax no it's just been based on what the budget my point is I would hate for hate for that thing to get out of the gate before we have a chance to look at what our options I think it's too late I mean I think it's already out the gate because I was thinking the same thing well it's just a recommendation we have the ability to know I just would rather I understand but I think they've already met they've met but they also understand that you know basically what's available does the remaining 95% of the budget until city council decides any other additional allocations like I said state law does have a distinct amount that is to be allocated from recommendations of a requires that we have a committee you have a committee that committee makes recommendations city council then decides on what to approve for those recommendations then we provide guidance yes sir they have obviously because in prior years city council's provided guidance that 85% go to one organization and 15% go to another I just see it we seem like we might want to suspend that process until we we get a chance to look and might come back with some guidance on how they consider the allocation just take this you know they have they already met they've met they've already met I do think just out of courtesy of their time and effort we need to at least let them know that we're considering other options I don't know what the timeline is I don't want to have I don't want people to just put a lot of time and effort into I'm looking at projects and then we do something I'm assuming we wouldn't do something totally different because that would not be recognizing the time and effort that they put in but I do think that we should at least give them some level of expectation that there may be some some other directives or maybe we may want them to meet again so it's on your agenda for Tuesday the committee recommendations on the draft agenda only right tax and a tax the recommendations but for July 26th what remaining funds you have to distribute so that's not what they're saying if I could clarify too the committee met we when we presented the accommodations and hospitality tax budgets to council before and shared what was projected for that time the committee is under the impression or committee has been which the accommodations tax committee has been informed and is aware that city council may make some additional allocations from accommodations tax aside from what is committed or recommended from the committee committee can may come back and recommend a percentage of the allocation versus a dollar amount I guess for the purposes of what I'm hearing the council discuss them right now it's too late for all that I mean they've already met right so they're bringing the recommendations on Tuesday and then whatever additional input or guidance you all need to give that's when you are doing on Tuesday no that June 21st is the council meeting for the committee recommendations those are additional those are additional conversations about the other the other components I'm not too sure I agree with that I think on the hospitality tax we did vote or did discuss in the budget a number to give to the committee I don't think we've ever ever done that on the accommodations tax that wasn't the guidance given to the committee they just they weren't given a guidance at this point about how much is allocated whether not to fund to just the two groups or other groups they did have other applicants this year that they did hear from other applicants but the expectation is to how much council may want to allocate they're aware that that could change okay and then so so similar to the age tax as they get that one pager about you know the hospitality tax dollars is there any document detailing what the role or what they're expected to do for the ATAC committee yes you mean for the committee's direction directions so there they are familiar with the allocations as state law and prior practice from from city council or prior guidance from city council so they and then they meet and hear from the applicants themselves and then that's the directions that they followed through and then they made their recommendations and then city council can either accept those recommendations or adjust those recommendations I guess what I'm getting out is was the 85 30 whatever it was was that communicated in writing or is that something that's just been expectation over time it's been communicated in writing but we didn't we did not distinct we did not give count the committee that specific instruction for this fiscal year because this council had not yet determined I did not have guidance that that was the direction of this city council prior city councils have done that okay thank you yes as long as I still the intention I just want to make sure that all of council understands to what I'm hearing miss Kaufman say is that we can go with the recommendations or reduce the recommendations council has done that prior years not to is it reduced to that's what I want to make sure so they they will get some allocation I just want to make sure all of council understands that we wouldn't be usually the changes just to the apportionment of how much goes to the different organizations okay additional allocations we've made in previous years together we can read and those type things that I think we've given this council information just as information that that was done as well those come from the 5% funds they're not taking proposing they deal with that until July right yes ma'am can we discuss going ahead and doing the allocations excuse me I mean isn't that a part it could look when they give us the recommendations take that take that in and look at it accommodations I think the question really comes around since it's a significant amount of money difference is are there other ways to utilize a portion of that funding to make sure that we're doing other things than just giving it to the two groups without the question comes up what what what happened with a lot of that money over the last two years so I think we just want to take a look and I think taking the recommendations from them is the proper thing to do we don't mean don't have to act on it we may want to do hospitality we may want to do that I can't I haven't seen anything yet so I have no idea but I think one of the things that continues to come up in discussions is is making sure that we're using that hospitality money to to really affect lots of groups and impact the community is wide and we we don't know that yet I will say that the hospitality tax application process you normally receive and this will be pointed out in materials prior year committee processes would see receive upwards of 90 applications this year you've received not 57 some I had even heard that that they had to ask people multiple times that have gotten stuff in the past to apply well it be interesting to see what recommendations are because I did hear that one point they talked about maybe even hold money back and have a mid-year so not spending it all at one time but so that they could could deal with some of the mid-year events that may come up so I think it'd be curious to see what comes up if you if you consider that the application process closed in March the environment was a little different in March than it is today the only group that probably made it that crosses over between the two between I said that the only other group that probably that miss Wilson may have been meant me getting to with regards to the 5% and the in accommodations tax one Columbia's funded both from hospitality tax and won't and accommodations tax because we split their funding so that it's not all coming from one source they would be considered as one of the line I'm agencies though for City Council consideration you're welcome. Thank you. We'll make some other items on the July 26th list that we've missed. Eric, Missy and I've tried to compare our notes on the items you wanted to come back. Yes, sir. Absolutely. Thank you. I will. I will say on that note given some of the topics that will be coming up at the July 26th. We would like to produce a published like budget and brief sort of document that you can share. So we given some of today's conversation maybe better that we wait until after the July 26th to include that material in that document so it would be more of a August September timeframe before we have something like that available for you to distribute. Thank you. Mr. Mayor, I'm making a motion we go into executive session for discussion of employment of an employee pursuing the SC code 30 days for a 70 a one organizational review. Your second. Again.