 Good, I'm 840 here. Let me know if there's too much wind. I'm still at Manly Beach So Speaking hatefully is a bad thing, right? being unnecessarily hateful Saying, you know, all these bad things should happen to a particular group, you know, that's bad rassing people They're going to their workplace or their house of worship or their community That's a bad thing But these terms have been so grossly Inflated to simply cover any type of speech that I don't like so on Twitter effectively over the past Six years or so Harassment simply meant meant disagreeing with a woman. Like if you disagree with a woman on Twitter If you puncture her logic in any way, you know, you're harassing her so Alex Jones was banned from social media or the social media companies effectively acted in uniform back in 2018 I was in Finland because Alex Jones has said so many They're just wrong harmful things, you know, leading to the for the harassment of the Sandy Hook parents So I was in building I'm almost a free speech absolutist, but I was in Bill Blunt when Big Tech banned Alex Jones It didn't didn't particularly bother me and understand why people would not want him on on their platform On the other hand, I have no problem in the same way conservatives would want Alex Jones on Ben Alex Jones is right wing Does support Republicans in the right wing against the left? So he is To a degree a comrade in arms, which is that he appeals to a lower IQ audience I was thinking what do Alex And one thing that we all have in common is that we all want to be a more excited place And so we're all romantic Reality that is really there. So Alex Jones speaks to a 95 IQ audience Spencer speaks to an audience with an average IQ around 115 Think my audience has an average IQ around 115 so The type of excitement that the 115 IQ person seeks out is very different from the type of excitement that the 95 IQ person seeks out Alex Jones is on the right, right? So he is furthering Republicans he is fighting the left. I don't Don't care for Alex Jones. I think he does a tremendous amount of harm But I have to recognize that he is a fellow fighter on the right. So I understand why conservatives would want to see him Unbanned and Cortez says that Donald Trump first thing you need to do is not unbanned alarmist first thing you need to do is not so much unbanned Donald Trump but the first thing you need to do is to unbanned Why conservatives love Alex Jones so much it wasn't so much about Why Alex Jones should be banned from Twitter That's easy to understand why conservatives love Alex Jones because he's appealing to a low IQ crowd like Donald Trump Donald Trump's the pro whisperer like Donald Trump is excellent at speaking to the 95 IQ audience and So too with Alex Jones. He's speaking to an audience that wants excitement and purpose and meaning in life That they want to feel like they're living from the inside that they're getting the real deal They're finally, you know understanding how the world works around them and because they only have an IQ of around 95 Right there their intellectual possibilities are quite limited if they weren't listening to Alex Jones They would not be reading Shakespeare Although I do think the case of Alex Jones brings up a very interesting question in terms of the free speech issue That is Someone who is absolutely absolutely polluting the discourse. Okay, I agree with that, but what do you expect? from someone who's Speaking to the 99 That is that he's he's not only wrong obviously many people are wrong most academic articles The science is actually kind of wrong more or less, but he's acting in a kind of bad face I think Alex Jones might very well believe what he's saying I think he does actually but he it doesn't matter whether Alex Jones believes in what he's saying sincerity is not a virtue Right sincerity is not something we need more of He's just being completely diluted personality and because he has this charisma He is able to gain a tremendous following and he's able to Grift off this following and just it's not his charisma. It's the sense of excitement that he he brings Right. He gives gives you know dumb people a way of understanding the world that is tremendously exciting It's an incredible way. So he really has wanted to talk It's similar to what Richard Spencer has done. He's given diluted people an excited way of understanding the world And it's what Richard Spencer is still doing Right with the polywism Right, it's a a romantic exciting way of understanding the world I'm feeling like you're living from the inside and this is the the real deal Now you're you're connected to the universe and you're aligned with your true self All right, it's one romantic crusade after another for Richard and one romantic crusade after another for Alex Jones just that one person speaking to a To a crowd with an average IQ around 115 to 120 And another bloke is speaking to a crowd with an average IQ around 90 Is his own Delusion and I do think that that kind of figure is deeply toxic You have to have some Yeah, Alex Jones, you know is toxic, right? He's he's motivated people to do horrible things such as harass the the sandy hook parents who lost their children in that mass shooting at sandy hook If people look to Alex Jones for more than entertainment value and start, you know taking some of his more deluded Perspective seriously and start harassing people on that basis. Yeah, it's toxic But 10 thing could be said for many of the phones of Richard Spencer and taking many of the things that Richard has said seriously I said It's not just the message It's how it plays out with a particular audience So, you know, how many hundreds of peoples of lives have been damaged because of Richard Spencer How many hundreds of people's lives have been damaged by Alex Jones Again, the people that both of them have damage Are people who've been seeking, you know illicit forms of excitement pieces in reality to Speak and to actually contribute to discourse There really is no value in listening to a schizophrenic Tell you about how, you know, space aliens are telling her that for, you know, and what's the killer And it's a really big problem. And that's what so this being some reasonably thoughtful stuff on Alex Jones Richard Spencer was a willing guest on Alex Jones. He was a willing guest on Russia today Right Richard said at the time he went on Alex Jones because he's an American institution So if you look at Richard Spencer and Alex Jones as entertainment, then they're not going to have a toxic effect on you All right, Richard Spencer's intellectual entertainment Alex Jones is conspiratorial Entertainment if you look to them for more than entertainment You're going to get wrong But if you put them in their proper genre of entertainers provocateurs shock jocks All right, put people in their proper genre and much less likely to hurt you That's why she's locked herself in her room for 48 hours. There's really no value And okay, the only people are going to lock themselves in their room for 48 hours I was listening to Alex Jones and people were already mentally ill You know, I don't know it saying I'm Oh, I'm pro free speech or something. That's what everyone says and when everyone says something that means that it is ultimately a meaningless platitude There actually is such a thing as bad speech And there is such a thing that is just so toxic and stupid, but which seems to be able to kind of call upon You know based emotions or maybe even incipient schizophrenia among the audience Okay, and you could say the same thing for much of Richard Spencer's work Now when he was going around saying Hail our people hail freedom. You know see Kyle and his followers were greeting him with Nazi salutes All right, this is the same kind of manic diluted schizophrenic energy that Alex Jones appeals to And I think it actually is extremely bad and at the very least we should talk about it seriously And not just kind of grandstand about our love for free speech. But anyway the Yeah, I give Richard credit here. This is something that does to be spoken about seriously and Much of what Alex Jones puts out is toxic is bad for people does leave people in a bad direction Though the very same thing could be said for much of what Richard Spencer has promoted His compadres have promoted Right. A lot of lives have been ruined by people pushing Edgy dissident dissident right in the nancy material Motivated me to write this a blog. Let me uh post it here. Let me post things My main issue really isn't so much of you know, is Alex Jones acting bad faith is Alex Jones promoting public square But why do conservatives love Alex Jones? Okay, it's easy Because he's on their side They're all right wing and they see the leftist anatomy. Oh, man Now they Yeah, Twitter. Twitter. What are you doing this to me bro? I'm trying to run any production here Twitter keeps messing with me So An excuse this use is made for Alex Jones. It's basically Okay. Yeah, Richard's right. That's a stupid excuse He claims that they're literally vampires I'll get it wrong sometimes, but he's kind of he's headed in the right direction and he kind of again He's innocent in the sense of being naive. He knows not what he's what he's doing Um, I think on another level Alex Jones represents a really serious problem with conservatism In the sense that everything is an emergency for them Look, Alex Jones is just a really dumb low IQ version of conservatism I'm sure there are lots of dumb slow IQ versions of left-wing thought as well The election is the most important election of your lifetime and what it is it's about saying no to something They are naysayers. No, what it is is about creating meaning and excitement for people I particularly people with Not terribly many options and without much cognitive capacity It's about loudly yelling go at some the latest novelty, you know, it's wearing mask or drag queen story hour or CRT or whatever and And you know aisles. Yeah, a hero system is a biological necessity There's some way of attaching yourself to something greater than yourself absolute biological necessity We all fear being insignificant And so we're looking to attach ourselves to a cause to you know, something that transcends us something that's going to Outlive us we want to attach ourselves to something that goes back in time and will you know Outlive us and by attaching ourselves to something like that Then we can overcome our own fear of insignificance It's all those things but they they're they they're these they're a type of person who's kind of overwhelmed by the world they're overwhelmed by Progressives who are kind of well, what type of people were attracted to which is Spencer back in the day Assembly people who are overwhelmed by the world And looking for meaning and excitement looking for the thrills And looking to take on Some kind of heroic quest. These are the same people who are interested in which is Benz's version of apolloism And so they're playing whack-a-mole Or there it's just this endless rearguard action that we've got to yell no at something new And when you're in that situation of being overwhelmed There's there's no time and there's no ability to actually put forth a vision of the world And as I wrote in that sense The conservative intellectual really becomes an oxymoron. You can't think about these things to deeply or too clearly Or with too much nuance because after all it's an emergency A conservative intellectual is not a conservative activist activist not intellectual So which is making genre errors here? My people are intellectuals and not activists. People are activists not intellectuals I activists Rational incentives for enlisting alex jones to the cause of finding their common ground with alex jones And conservative intellectuals are not forming common ground with alex jones I don't want to hear about your analysis of the situation. I don't want to hear about your nuance I don't want to hear about your self-criticism. They're out to get your kids So they are kind of schizophrenic On some level and I think that's maybe another reason why alex jones, but you'll see them No different parts of the conservative movement are not schizophrenically just different genres different worlds activists And not intellectuals intellectuals are not activists conservative intellectuals are not Making common ground with alex jones and quarter is a pundit. She's not an intellectual Adventure purer is a pundit. It's not an intellectual We do think that is that kind of you know, would it luckily write any Initial pages of national review to a standard where history going stop that might very well be the Best maxim of the conservative that is what he is constantly doing And alex jones is doing that for him and he's kind of represented the internet in the sense that he's not doing it with any pretense of Respectability here. He's just ripping his shirt off loudly yelling at people And so we kind of represent the internet he is who you know and culture or conservatives would be If they had his energy and charisma and they had abandoned all pretense of respectability So anyway, uh, there it is. There's my argument Uh, if you guys want to hop in you're welcome. We already have one request here So another reason that many conservatives Are going to form some common ground with alex jones is they want to get on his show They want to be promoted by his media ecosystem alex jones has promoted some true things some good things some accurate things some prescient things You know that matt drudge used to link to him a lot back in the day So alex jones hasn't just done bad hasn't just deteriorated the public discourse Hasn't just been a buffoon or an idiot Or encouraged mental illness he's also done a lot of good things people are complicated All right Of him, you know saying things which eventually came to be That the stock market is going to crash Yeah, it's pretty cute That the new york Yankees are going to lose face itself up now I think the republican party has a much stronger history We're not elements of our party, which you know, perhaps they were helpful time It's just it's ridiculous to keep them. You know these these clowns such as um, uh alex jones, uh What do you mean keep them or not keep them like? Yeah, the republican party doesn't have this enormous top-down power Right No one can exile Now alex jones. He's his own character. He's a self supporting Organization, right? He's been banned from all the major social media and he's still going So it's kind of pointless to talk about the conservative movement of the republican party, you know exiling Alex jones They don't have that power Include amcultor i'd say nick went as as well. Um, yeah I understand your argument. What I understand. I understand your argument. Let me respond and then um, I will First off the national fund At least in my estimation never played a pot just outright skits ready. So I'm not really making the case of You know, you're a little rough around the edges You know, there's something almost You know fun about alex jones when he's just you know, just kind of talking about While he's going to see theories of the new landing. He's a little slice of the marijuana. I guess you could say, um, should be Perhaps overly fair. Um, but you know He does represent still conservative id brain and You know, I don't yeah, it doesn't represent the conservative id brain. It represents a manifestation of a 90 iq conservative id brain right 120 130 iq conservatives And not resonating with alex jones 30 percent of conservatives, particularly those who are motivated to vote are highly aligned with alex jones And I don't know if conservatives could really go anywhere. Okay, so E&S opportunity Hey, richard. Thanks really I honestly I think uh, whenever I hear you speak it's like my IQ is increasing on the spot actually Um, I appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah, uh, I got no one to ask, you know Maybe you're looking too much into this, but do you think uh people like alex jones? Because I largely agree with your analysis. Do you think that uh, there's a possibility that they are some sort of controlled opposition? Man, let's talk about controlled opposition just gets boring All right, alex jones is so unhinged, right? He'd be the last person who'd be employed as controlled opposition certainly that possibility and and also, you know Whenever some however something began it doesn't it can end up in some place else And so I think you could definitely make the case that alex jones began He was this entertaining, you know, wild texas radio guy and yeah, there was nothing really Suspicious about it, but uh, I guess you kind of would go there at some point and whenever you have a cash cow like in go wars became that You know depositions and trials and this thing is pumping out hundreds of thousands of dollars a day or something I mean, it's just incredible. Once you have something valuable, then you know the rap Yeah, if you meet 95 IQ 100 IQ Americans need for excitement and feeling like they understand what you know is really going on or what's really running the world Right, there is an enormous audience for that. There are a lot more people out there with a 95 IQ with 145 IQ So he's meeting the need for for meaning and excitement that used to be met by religion All right, if people went into alex jones They'd very likely be in some low IQ form of religion, you know, assembly of god or something like that People are gonna want to get a piece of that pie Yeah, I mean I there's an interesting video of alex jones where I think he's talking about david ike or david icky And david icky is very fixed. I think he used to be an athlete and then he was a sports announcer Like a soccer or football against over in the uk announcer And then he just kind of went off the event and alex jones was saying that Oh You know, he's a turd in the punch ball. So basically, you know, we're talking about the new world order and then this guy talks about You know, they're actually shapeshifting lizards. And so you can just immediately dismiss it He's like it was basically suggesting that he was a kind of false opposition in that case Uh, I so I think it and then you know, obviously that same criticism could be applied to alex jones So I think it's possible. I mean without evidence. I would want to make that suggestion But I think I would at least the way I would talk about it is He's not so much that you want to demonize or You know slander the other side like let's get the most ridiculous person possible so that the other side looks bad We win. I think the notion of the adducia Which is something that The mark brahman has talked about I talked about it as well It's it's not so much about like Controlling the other side of this course and making them look like rules who should just be dismissed out of hand It's about kind of creating a synthetic opposition And so the you know, if you're right wing you like alex jones, you know That means you you want to slam but doesn't everyone create a synthetic opposition? Doesn't everyone You know use straw man. Isn't that just a human Lazy way of dealing with your opponents in life is to Describe them in ridiculous unfair dishonest terms. I don't think that's uh something that's unique to alex jones Constitution and talking about the bible and your libertarian And you know all that kind of stuff that that's what it means to be right wing And so I think it's that creation of a synthetic opposition So it's it's like the difference of you know, are you a capitalist or you call me that's where you would shoot So and part of it is that alex jones listeners just have a more medieval worldview, right? They see the devil They see god They see the sacred and the profane and the holy and the unholy they're doing battle all around them And so it's not just a different belief system. There's a different way of experiencing life It's a different sense of self So as opposed to the modern liberal notion of a self that is buffered strategic autonomous basically good You know capable of rationality All right, the more medieval notion self is a human being It's naturally predisposed to what's evil this forest As is vulnerable to being negatively affected by evil forces around it. There are sacred spaces And dangerous places. There are holy men and unholy men And that we're all you know vulnerable to the forces of darkness and evil, right alex jones You know embodies this more medieval perspective on life All conservatives are more medieval than modern liberals All of those That's why no means even close to representing the specter of opinion And yet you create these vionaries where people are like, oh, yeah, I'm on alex jones's son You know, and I think And it can't really really kind of conducive opposition Where it's about synthetically creating the vionary and well He's creating straw men and it's creating a sense of excitement and meaning and a sense that you have the You know the real stuff you have No access to what's going on with the inner party the people who really run things all right I think it's about that excitement and a delusional sense that you're on the inside You understand what's really going on in the world. Bye. Bye