 Alright, fuck it. Welcome back to the 85 South Show Lounge, Backwoods Lounge. Backwoods backstage, right here. We got our own backstage, man. I see them boys, it's famous. And I got my lovely co-host with me over here, Miss Bre Renee. Bre Renee, she's from the A&L building. And this is a different type of intro because T-Pain, his family at this point, is always fun and he's always a great interview. And now we just talking shit like first cousins at this point. Absolutely, absolutely. First cousins that see each other a lot. Exactly, man. We're a lot of first cousins that don't really fuck with each other. No, like, I'm a like sister-son. Right, absolutely. You're a little bit of a dresser. They made us do sleepovers just so they can go out. Exactly. They didn't want to go out. But man, I gotta talk about this first and foremost, because you've been going up on the social media with your Twitch stream, with the T-Pain podcast. Absolutely. And those two together on top of the videos and the music and the behind the scenes and the TikTok, Bre, your presence is very strong, man. I'm doing what I can. What's been your motivation to get back in front of the people like that? I think I've just been happier. You know what I mean? Like just coming through and really taking care of my business, you know, with no manager, no label, and getting distro through Empire. I can kind of do what I want now. All my ideas are coming into fruition because I'm in charge of making that happen now. So just happier and just, I'm okay. I don't cringe as much when I see myself on camera. You know what I mean? Do you feel like growing into that space of like being independent and doing everything yourself, you feel like, thank God you should have been doing this or being with the label, all of that was necessary? All that was necessary. It was the right timing because if I would have just done it myself, I wouldn't have known what to do. You know, none of this really came about until I got to the point to where I was like, hey, tell me what you do for me. Tell me what your job description is. And the people that couldn't, you know, do that, if you don't know what you do, what the hell are you doing here? I don't need you then. You know what I mean? Like I can figure it out. I mean, I might get less work done with less manpower, but I'll be much happier and I'll get more money because I got to pay you now. So this is dead weight. Yeah, it's dead weight. Exactly. Now I have noticed that you have been like on your live joint. Yeah. And you've been showing a lot of the verses and songs that you threw away. Yeah. What made you get into that bag, bro? It didn't affect anything. Like, you know, a lot of people get online and they're like, don't show nobody yourself recording or don't show them no old song. They're gonna leak it. And then it's like, yeah, but it's been sitting here for seven years. It'll do better, leak somewhere than just sitting on my hard drive and nobody ever hearing it. So once I started showing people online and then nothing changed. Like, oh, I can just do this all the time. I got hundreds and hundreds of songs that I can just be showing to people. You be bullshitting, too, though. Because you was setting up all like, I hated this song. I'm glad this shit never came out. I did. And then you were playing this shit. I'm like, this shit is fucking hard. Yeah. They should have put this out. I do that. And then I realized I was the only one that thought that. You should have dropped a project of all the forgotten songs. I did. I did. I dropped two volumes of it. It was called Everything Must Go. I dropped volume one and volume two. And it's still a lot more. That can get dropped. But again, we put it out. The songs were as ass as they were back then. People didn't gravitate towards them. So nothing changed. I put them out. Nothing changed. But you be a little bit too hard on yourself, bro. I feel like I can't say that personally. I don't know. But I know that you critique yourself hard as fuck. And sometimes you just have to let shit just be great the way it is. I think I critique myself because I get to see the other teams playbook. I look at my own stuff like I'm a hater. Or I'm looking for something to say on my own post. Even when I look at my post, I look at can anybody see anything in the backgrounds? My hands ashy. What can somebody say? I look at it myself first as a hater. Why do you think you do that? Because they're going to do that. And I need to not give them fuel for the fire. So I think I look at it in that way to just make myself better and just kind of keep away from the comments and stuff like that. And once I do look at them, if somebody does say something, I know it's a reach because I kind of checked all the boxes in my nigga. Like, damn, you still found something? I don't like it. You need to get your cat a haircut. Like, bro, just my cat was in the background of the video for two seconds. You couldn't find nothing else to say in this video. I think I look at stuff like that as a hater first because it just kind of helps ease my mind. Really kills the cringe afterwards too. So it helps out. I got to talk about this because I know you might not know, but T-Pain is a fellow car lover also. I am. And around this time last year, he had to get in somebody's ass for wrecking his race car. Yeah. This man literally borrowed T-Pain's race car and went on a full high speed chase for a TV show, smashed the car all up. It just was like, T-Pain, I wrecked your car, sent me some money. I'll fix it. He was nice. He sent him the money like two or three times. Dude, fuck the money. I want my car back. I'm like, bro, just give me back my car. I won't tell nobody that you're fucking losing it if you just give me back my car. He was like, T-Pain, I feel so bad. Just let me fix it, please. Nice guy. This guy is like, I'll give you one more chance. I'm a good person. Because I know how many times. I don't fuck that. I know how many times. You're like, I'm going to give you grace. Right. I know how many times. I don't fuck that. My wife wouldn't give me as many chances as she has. I would have been over a long time ago. Some of my friends, I've been a shit friend a lot of times. But it's always just that, man, I'm sorry, man. That has, I have done some fucked up shit. Once people grow up and start to realize that, you give them that one more chance and they change person forever. Because they know they're not going to get that many chances out of a lot of people. I was just catching them up on the story because I posted a video recently of you in your new race car. And you looked so happy. You dropped a song. He got a new one. He got a new one. It's new in the car. What kind of race car is he? He talking big shit. Yeah. He doing doughnuts now. Hey, man. Dropped a song. I'm better now. I'm better now. I got better people around me. I know how to recognize better people now. But men are really like particular about their cars. Right. Can you explain that as a woman, I think we like nice cars for a nice car. You like for men to have nice cars. You have nice cars. I do have a nice car. I like to have a nice car myself. I don't care about cars. Men care. Our cars are your shoes. Okay. Or curtsy. It's the bags and shoes. The cars and rims and shit. Absolutely. Absolutely. I wanted to ask you about the new single. You're keeping it lighthearted. Having a lot of fun. We just having fun. I wouldn't even call it a single. I wouldn't even call it a single. Baby got braver just having fun. We started as a joke. It was a joke we were doing. We were trying to come up with merch ideas. And I had just bought a RX7. It's got the rotary engine. So I was like, I need a shirt that say Baby got Brat. And then Hurt, my partner on the company, was like, that'll be a dope ass song. So I was like, yeah, come on down to a verse. He's like, I'm not a rapper. I was like, hey man, people say I'm not either. I was like, let's go try it out together. So we just recorded the song. And it ended up being a cool song, especially for the car community. So we just released. We're just having fun, man. You know what? Whatever we want to. And you know, people think we still trying to make chart-topping records. I done did that shit. I said, oh, don't nothing change, but prices, those prices go back down until you do another one. It's just, it's a popularity contest that I am not trying to enter into anymore. I'm fine. I love that you say that you at that point in your career as an artist though, because I think that takes maturity. When you first get in the game, you trying to get you a hit, you trying to make it to, you know, there's so many milestones that you want to hit. But like, when did you make it to that point where you was like, man, I'm just having fun with it. It's just... When I found out that I can do other stuff. You know what I mean? A lot of people chase that feeling. They chase them number ones and they chase that top spot because that's all they can do. That's all they got. They don't have anything to go have fun. You go rent a Lamborghini in Italy, but you know, you got to take that back. You know what I mean? But if you start building cars on the side and you really paying attention to how things work and you start getting other hobbies, or even if you already had hobbies, which is the case with me, because I've always had these hobbies. I've always been a gamer. I've always been a car guy. I've always built cars. But my manager's never wanted anybody to see that because it was deemed uncool for somebody at the top of the charts to be doing regular white dude shit. You know what I mean? So I've always had these things. And once I start showing that part of me, then people start gravitating more towards me and saying that T. Page is one of us. T. Page is a guy. And that's all I wanted to be. I didn't want to be the special guy. You know, again, I was signed as a writer to Convict Music, so I was never supposed to be in the foreground. I was never supposed to be in front of the camera, so once all that started happening, I kind of had to get rid of, you know, the other things I did in my life and now that I can express that and still be accepted, I'm good. You know, being number one and one thing is like... I think that's a gem, like a jewel, though, that you just dropped because a lot of artists don't take in time to pay attention to, like, what other things they good at, because, like, you and Los both have done that with, like, y'all passion for cars. For sure. But I'm sure there's a lot of other artists that got, you know, different passions that you can monetize. Yeah. Build communities. But I can see that they have that space where they're scared to even let people know, hey, I draw horses. Yeah. I'm not an artist, but I have a thing for drawing horses. Absolutely. And I'm pretty good at it. Yeah. That takes a lot of comfort to let people know what you really like. Absolutely. Unless you're a woman, women can do that, because it's empowering. We can do more than that, but we can do it. And if you're a man, it's like, bro, get back in the studio, my nigga. I don't know. Shit. Everybody out there, getting your horses dirty with them horses and shit, you need to be out there in the studio. And it's just, we don't, yeah, you know, we can't do anything. We do what people know we good at, and then that's what we just leave it at. But, you know, once you go deep into your mind and deep into your thought, deep into just yourself, take care of yourself and the money gonna come. The money will come from everything. And we all know the phrase, find something you love, find something that you love and that you'll do for free, and go get paid for it. Yeah. Now, you remember the last time we was talking, and I asked you about this T-Pain and Top Hat T-Pain. Yeah. And then you see, the internet went back and was like, Los might be on or something. Yeah. Top Hat T-Pain was in a whole other world. Now, you know, it's the fall, will Top Hat T-Pain be popping out for the fall, when a Christmas anything? Anything. It is Top Hat T-Pain. Season. It's Top Hat T-Pain season. And the person I am now, it's Top Hat T-Pain again. It's in different attire. I can wear shit on planes now. I can come out dressed like this, you know, my Bill Gates shit, my rich white, you know what I'm saying, my rich white attire, and I think this will be fine. But the feeling that I had back then is back. You know what I mean? The happiness, the fun that I had doing music and trying to, you know, make chart toppers or anything like that, that's back. So it is Top Hat T-Pain on the inside, regular white dude on the outside. You got anything, any more animated stuff coming out? We are working on some more animated stuff. We're trying to get the freak-nick, the musical part two together. Getting that to get a lot of people been asking for that. So just a general thing. We having a Wisconsin University cartoon coming. Yeah, that's dope. So yeah, you know, all of which I would love you guys to be involved with. We would love to definitely be involved. They're both very black. Yeah, the Wisconsin, the tour. Yeah. Was going crazy. That's about to happen again in June. You know, so get ready for that. Yeah. We're going back to Wisconsin. The name of the tour is Back to Wisconsin, third installment of the tour. So yeah, we ended it off with the Wisconsin Fest. We'd love to have you again. We'd love to have you guys. I'll be there. None of this official and you're going to have like set dates. I can play. We got it. We got it. I'm going to text you this time. Bro, you got anything else? No, I mean, just keep killing it. You've been doing amazing. I've been a fan. My family owns a strip club. So there you go. That's what we're talking about. I'm in love with a stripper came out. That was my, you know, for me at the Blue Flame Lounge. I love it. You know what I'm saying? Family ties, baby. Sometimes that's one of our songs that we sing together. Yeah. That's good. You know, like as a couple when you in a car and you and your lady got that one that you all sing. That was your boat sing. Yeah. It's going to be all just going to be your first dance song. That's what it is. We just always sing because my family owns a strip club. When I get married, I do want them to throw money on me like as an African tradition. They got to do. They get to throw it to I'm in love with a stripper even though. If they do it in the rose, they make a bouquet out of it. You can do the bouquet with the single dog bouquet. You know? We do love and we enjoy singing your songs as a couple. What's your favorite T-Pain song to sing? It definitely is. I'm in love with a stripper. That's probably my top one. But you know what? That's going to be the one. You know what's my other one? What's the other one? Cut it, buddy. With Mike Jones. Oh, yeah. You can be Mike. That is our shit. Wow. That is our shit. That's deep. That's deeper. Because that's one of the riding in the old school songs. It's got to be drop top. Sunday. I'm about to say Sunday drop top. Very nice. That's a good choice. Good choice. But we appreciate you stopping through the 85 South Backwoods lounge, man. We're going to make sure you grab some merch or something. Yeah, nice. This is all very nice. We're taking this show on the road, man. One day, man. I'm going to be up there with y'all one day. I'm going to have a little shake right next to y'all, huh? Anything you got coming up next or coming out soon that we need to be on the lookout for? I'm just dropping songs, man. Dropping songs. The podcast is coming back. 24-hour live stream? 24-hour live stream at some point. If I can keep enough white clothes on deck, I'm there. No, I saw him mentioning it in the comments. It's going to happen. I'll be on there. Thank you, man. You'll be saying shit, but you'll be on there. Because I don't want to get to arguing and back. Let's get your ass. You can't type as enough to argue on that. I just have to sit back and lurk, you know. I love it. I appreciate it, man. Let's get it. 85 South South, man. 10 Payne. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Whether or not your family gives you gifts during the holidays, you get to define how you give to yourself. I'm going to be on there. I'm going to be on there. I'm going to be on there. I'm going to be on there. I'm going to be on there. 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