 whether you're a creator or you're just an audience member I feel like social media it does have its pros and cons and the cons are also quite a few so it's very it's nice to have you know a separate life also away from social media somewhere where you learn new things you're not doing anything for social media you're having a good time and not documenting it I think that's also something I try to actively do and not you know just put up everything that I'm doing in my life on social media. Me today on candidate conversations is Dolly saying Dolly does not need an introduction but for my let me say let's just go ahead and I'll give you a brief intro about her she's a content creator she's obviously very famous she is plagued by selfies whenever she moves out of the house she's now doing a lot of films she's doing a lot of web series she did there was a big coding in Bombay and a lot of other places also I'm in Bombay which I saw for where she was smiling showing all her 32 teeth because of the Colgate ad which is a big big brand endorsement by the way she's done a lot of collaborations with celebrities and famous people and now she is getting into the entrepreneurship space I have given my intro I'm gonna take a breath and I'm gonna let Dolly take over for a bit now. Thank you so much Kabeer sometimes you know it's like people generally say oh no you don't need an introduction and then they'll move on but sometimes I'm like I want to listen to what all I've done you know you very well summarized everything I've done so far and it feels like feels like an achievement okay yeah good okay I miss this I forgot this you know as an individual you definitely obviously never take your achievement seriously so when you hear someone else talk about them it feels good so thank you for that you're welcome you're welcome so now tell us tell us about this you turning an entrepreneur from whatever I know from whatever your friend Sonali has told me you will be starting your own range of candles and scents and I normally don't say this but I must say this is one collection which I feel which is by a celebrity and influencer a famous figure which should do well just because of the one reason because of the names which have been given okay let me just read out two three of the names there is one name called yeah okay which I've been searching for 35 years but it's taking some time so I should buy that there's another one called and then there are of course a few other ones which I can't mention on the show but yeah Dolly over to you tell us about the collection it's my first ever product that I've you know associated myself with I had a lot of fun doing it we actually I had uploaded a video last year in jan this year in jan it already feels like last year this year in jan when I was talking about you know how candle names are funny these days and how they just write something random on candles you know whether it is something like literally in front of me are these candles which have old books and library and rain cappuccino like it's just random names like it's just one word which doesn't really make any sense and at the same time I was like if these candles are going to change my life then I would rather attract something that I you know I'm looking forward to and I had said a variety of funny things in that video and a lot of candle brands had reached out to us one of them rad living and turns out I was already a customer of theirs because I already enjoy so much of candles you know I think during the pandemic most of us started buying candles because you know you're at home you want your home to smell good and feel good and it's also very therapeutic it's a candle jalao so I say like there's in the you know a janak say it's it's become all sorted and everybody's gone so yeah that's how it started and I knew that I wanted obviously my personality had to show in that whole candle collection I wanted to make sure that it kind of screams that it's coming from me so we did a play on you know how these days affirmations and manifestations are happening you know you say nice things to yourself in the mirror and manifest your dreams and night at 33 times in your diary and you know it'll come true I don't know whether it comes true or not but at least I know that it gives you a very positive outlook on life and I like that and I thought maybe let's make it funny let's turn it around and you know give these names um and that's why I wrote so if you read it correctly the candle names are very much like I am manifesting in Sacha Pyar or I am manifesting go our trip you know I am this candle is Sastin as your this candle is you know I want to be my own sugar mama so I wanted to have that fun with those names I we also have aligned all the fragrances in the candles to match with the name so that people don't get confused for example the go our trip candle smells like an ocean um and you know there are funny tag lines also on the side of the candles there's many things you know we try to do and I had a lot of fun because it requires so much of creativity there you know to come up with these names to align the fragrances to come up with tag lines in fact we even have a tarot card kind of you know Bhavishivani cards that we're calling them you know funny horoscope that you can play with your friends um so yeah it was a it was a lot of fun and uh us very late but real realization was also that that my mother used to make candles when we were growing up um you know even like I was a toddler even then like she was making those candles and she used to make them at home it was like you know a self-employed kind of thing and um she would sell them to all the retailers in town I am from Nainital so in Nainital at least at that point we used to be known for our candles and my father used to sell candles in fact to this day he sells candles in his shop so I'm very also excited to bring my candles to his shop and sell them there and you know it's going to be like a full circle um but yeah it's been really wonderful and now we have launched it and I'm really hoping to see a positive response from people absolutely you know all all the best for it and like I said very poorly named obviously after you after the kind of you know characters which you've played uh so yeah that's uh that's as far as the entrepreneurship angle is concerned moving on of course to the other side of stuff you know you being a content creator etc do you feel that it's important to sort of sometimes uh uh detox from social media and do you do that yourself and why do you feel that it's important uh yeah of course I think it is very important I think we've become the generation who's always you know we're just looking like this I'm sure all of our necks are hurting at this point you know we're all obsessed with our phones I've seen I've noticed this about my friends you know initially when I was in college and I had started vlogging and everything and people used to always complain you're always on your phone you're always doing this and that and I used to say that you know no it's my work yeah I'm working you know I have to engage and I have to comment and I have to reply but now I've started noticing that people who are not even in this field are more on their phones than I am you know for example and it's just a generational thing we are hooked to our screens so for sure I definitely and me being obviously working in that environment and working on the internet it's very hard for me to kind of take that back you know step back and um you know look at it from a distance but I definitely really try to have a balance there and have some kind of you know keep my screen away so whenever I'm you know with my friends doing something out I generally try to keep my phone completely away and not look at it and not be obsessed with it um I also get irritated with people who are on their phones all the time and while you're engaging and having a conversation yeah I don't like that which is why I feel like I want to not do that if that's something I don't like I should not do that to other people as well right um so yeah definitely I think uh also I feel like this it just consumes you too much it gives you a lot of stress also um whether you're a creator or you're just an audience member I feel like social media it does have its pros and cons and the cons are also quite a few uh so it's very it's it's nice to have you know a separate life also away from social media somewhere where you learn new things you're not doing anything for social media you're having a good time and not documenting it I think that's also something I try to actively do and not you know just put up everything that I'm doing in my life on social media so that's a that's a decision I've had to you know take and um give give a few hours to myself through the day where I'm not looking on my phone or doing something like this because at this point everything I do is on my phone even editing writing so slowly I'm trying to kind of get away from that and you know bring come back to real life and not get immersed in that social media culture and and this is something which you've spoken pretty frequently pretty often about because I've read about interviews um you know the fact that how it is important not to share a lot of stuff on social media and of course you've spoken about the cons also there there's another thing which I had read you know uh in the beginning in the beginning you were not uh that fond of the term influencer right which has sort of changed so why why was that like why were you not that fond of the term influencer like what is what was behind it yeah I think it was coined only in a very negative uh you know sense I think it was in New York Times or somewhere some journalist had you know first used the word and it always was used in a negative connotation and I've always feel that people whenever they want to say influencers they mean a negative kind of you know uh definition to it yeah they always they make you feel like influencers are just you know these people who take selfies and post and move on while you know some part of it is obviously true and stereotypes do come from somewhere I also feel like I am just as much a part of this industry and people are calling me an influencer every day um so initially I did hate it and I used to be like no no I'm not an influencer don't call me I'm a content creator I'm this and that I would always try to run away from that you know word um but slowly I realized that you know everything um is a part of this whole thing so influencer word will have that stereotype but will also have people like us and everybody else who's making content so if you keep running away from it the negative connotation will only increase and you know become a thing so I thought you know I'd rather own it and be this influencer that people want to see and be an influencer that I want to see tomorrow and maybe change this definition with time you know change the fact that you know it's not as easy it's it's it is a full-time job and we are not just having fun here we're actually working a lot of work and hard work goes into this so um let's not make everybody feel like oh influencers don't really do much our influencer life is very easy I think that's generally the connotation or generally the worldview um and I think that by owning it I definitely want to change it as well you know I want people to know and realize that it's not how it looks if we obviously make it look so easy on social media but it's not not easy right right okay uh I'm gonna I'm gonna come to the last question for today actually there's a lot of other stuff which I want to talk to Dolly about but we're gonna hope that uh that when she comes to Bombay or when she's free next we can chat with her again but for the last question something very important something which uh you you played a very important role in doing why do you think uh it's important to break the taboo of going to the therapist in a country like India oh I mean um it's important to work to a therapist anyway but I feel like for a person like me who has some kind of social media following and people following me uh for whatever reason um it becomes some kind of a responsibility for me to promote you know things like these because I feel like not many are talking about it at least not in the past few years we've all started talking about it but at least if you go back five years down the line you will not find anyone talking about therapy in general or it was sorry to interrupt but I think it actually started off in 2014 with that Deepika Parvokan interview and then sort of stuff started happening probably yeah I mean and she did talk about a lot of things but therapy as a concept was still you know we were we were talking about depression and anxiety and nervousness and um you know panic attacks and all of these things but it's been a very slow burn and I feel like we are still not there obviously we are I'm I'm still very privileged I come from um you know I have social media privilege at this point um and I have access to therapists which are around me and I have friends who are already taking therapy so it becomes a much more easier you know step for me at the same time I'm aware that my audience members who are you know watching my content probably don't have that kind of um life or that that kind of privilege or their circle is not very open to these kind of things whether it's family or friends so I feel like for you know person like me it's very important that I will and I always tell people that you know you don't have to always take it just because you have issues or you have some problems sometimes you can always also take it just because you want to talk to someone and I know it's very hard you know finding a therapist can be really hard and there's multiple challenges to that uh but I feel like as much as we can talk about it we normalize it it just becomes a part of day-to-day life I've talked to talked about it to my parents also and I'm not saying they understand it 100 but they they're trying and I feel like the more we talk about these kind of things whether it is my content or whether whether I need someone or my parents the more it will spread and the more it will become normal you know common and I think that's what my at least my feeling towards therapy is that to just make it so normal that it becomes like going to a doctor you know going having a cold and looking out for medication so if you have anxiety or if you are going through some problems and if you feel like you want to talk to someone then therapy should just become the instant you know solution to it rather than parents telling children to be like just so you know instead of having replies like this ready I would rather have therapy as a solution be like I mean don't think about all this just go for therapy let's look for a therapist yeah I mean you know that's the that's why you need to tell me before not to think about it so yeah I've been having the discussion and opening up about it whether it's therapy or whether it's the medication or the psychiatrist and visiting psychologists all of that stuff exactly exactly all of it all of it has to be normalized right well said well said and I definitely have to add that in a in the current era where we are like boasting with content creators and influencers and what not definitely dolly still remains one of the very loved content creators like you know you may have a lot of influencers you may have millions millions of followers like dolly has 1.4 million followers which is 1.4 million more than me but she's definitely a very loved personality and dolly thanks a lot for talking to us all the best for the future all the best for your candle collection and hope to see you soon thank you kavir hope to see you soon as well