 Some gurus, especially with westerners, they take away their passports, they take all their money away, everything. They just reduce them to nothing. Those are the fearless gurus who actually know that that's the way to point the the Shishyas to the fastest route to the Self. Because when they are stripped of everything they have, then they start feeling the Self. So the relationship between the Shishya and the Guru is a very complex one. Because the Guru, for example, can respond to the Shishya from largely six different layers of consciousness.