 Sean McDermott put a rest to what's going on with Stefan Diggs and Josh Allen and all those buffalo bills that are expected to win the Super Bowl But are we buying it? I think so. I think we'll put it to rest at least until the playoffs We showed you those numbers yesterday. We have Chase Daniel in studio. Hates of people say Chase Daniels I've never seen him like react like that. Like it'd be if I called Stefan Diggs to fondig It's not his name. Get it right. We'll do that. We've got Hamilton We've got oh father's day. Don't get him a tire pizza oven get him these gifts right now Tated pizza ovens. I don't know why I said that father's day is around the corner It is Sunday and pizza ovens are a legit great gift and if you just you know I can imagine if you're in a partnership in a couple of them That's outside you want your telly tell your your partner to go kick rocks for a couple of hours Get them out there making you some pizzas for dinner fun for the whole family as my producer Richard just told me in our ear Okay, we've got some NFL storylines here Chase Daniel will be joining us shortly to go over some father's day gifts That I think are appropriate for the day from my very you know my vantage point and angle But we do want to give an update on Buffalo and yes, we did make some assumptions yesterday And we did dig into like what this could maybe be there's some very interesting playoff numbers when it comes to Stefan Diggs in the postseason not being targeted not having a touchdown not getting a lot of love from Josh Allen You know when he was upset after that bangles loss and he left it was probably because he wasn't getting the ball in those times So we don't know exactly what's going on with digs But there wasn't positivity because he was on the field Sean McDermott provided some clarity on why digs left bills camp early on Tuesday And we got to a point yesterday where I just we just felt like we all needed a break and some space And so I gave Steph permission to get some space and and and and head out and and then picked up those conversations after practice So let me make it clear was it was not Steph leading unexcused. He was excused by me and So those conversations have got us to a to what I think and believe is a great spot He was concerned a couple days ago clearly different some movement or conversations I mean is it weird that they needed space after they've had like months and months of space leading up to this Maybe just a little bit but Conrad our line producer after a show he goes outside and does like three laps You know, some people just may have their thing to do right Conrad you ain't wrong He disappears and then he brings me a snack and everything's great We all get out and we sit down and things are great So people you know people have their things and coach McDermott seems to believe the issue is behind them At least he's saying no which is what he should do So let's just all take his word for it and drop this for now digs was there He was dappin up Josh Allen. They're seen walking together So I hope it's over because digs is a special player I do not want to see his perception or legacy or anything tarnished even a little bit Because we honestly don't know what's going on and I'm gonna say it's over we're putting it to rest until the playoffs Okay dot dot dot Until those big games in the playoffs because this team has a crazy expectation This boy is the cover boy on Madden Stefan takes has been there in those big playoff moments mini miracle He wants the ball will Josh have the stones to get it to him Even if there's guys draped over him or is he gonna give it to Gabe or is it those things are gonna be scrutinized We're gonna remember them even from now Looking back there Danita is everything. Okay, we are running. We are doing laps in to Conrad laughs are happening in studio today No laps happen after the show not during the show It's a special it's a special show because we've chased Daniel here I'm very excited to talk about Mizzou and all sorts of fun NFL store And I'm sure he's got opportunities on here on like needs a chemistry between a quarterback any wide receiver So let's get to it but this week in his father's day guys and buying your dad the perfect gift Can be challenging and I feel bad for dads because they get the worst gifts It's true They get the socks and I'm not that I don't love a sock gift or they get like a tool or they get something It's just always sort of like Stock you something or you know or something that they don't want to use or or you get them those like Something that they have to wear like if you're a little kid and you get your dad like some awful t-shirt of like Bart Simpson Saying world's best day like they have to wear that because you're a little kid and like they have it's just like not the best thing So we thought that we would help dads out and why not bring out a dad to help me I'm not just any dad dad whose kids are brought to tears at the very site of him here is NFL quarterback chase Daniel Son seeing him on the NFL. I don't want to cry. I haven't seen this. Let me take a look Daniel chase Daniel here we've been hanging out the morning. How would we first saw that? What did you think I mean just tears of joy a little bit? I mean he was given brought the tears of joy and obviously that was a preseason game and and for him to actually Understand what dad does in the time that was like my goal was like play as long as humanly possible So my kids can understand what I do because it's pretty special I think a lot of NFL players have that mentality. Yeah, I want my kids here at training camp bring everybody Yeah, and last year was his first year where he really understood like what dad does and he was just you know There's a family right there. He was brought the tears Three like She is almost to Preston is five and a half and we have Parker Who's our wild child? She is three three and a half? So it's been it's been a journey. We're really busy. My wife's really busy She's been amazing But yeah, the video was was so cool. I decided to post it I don't post a lot about my kids. I try to keep them off social media But that was a special moment the charges reposted NFL reposted it so it was a clip that went pretty viral was awesome I love it. I think we have you here today. Thanks for talking about the Chargers You know I have that helmet that's not just because you're here. Yeah, that charge is up there Chargers and saints. Well, yeah, I love those things and you loved your breeze and you know, we got all this You got a lot of connections here to talk about Father's Day is Sunday. So happy early Father's Day The beautiful dad of three beautiful children But worst gift you've ever gotten I don't care about the best gift I mean listen I heard the intro to the Father's Day gifts. I mean it's got to be socks, right? Like I have so many pairs of socks and not just any socks like yeah Like give me some like stay at socks with some cool design on them It's just like white dress socks or black dress socks like yeah, like it's just it's not what we want It's not what you want. What would you want? Well, I was saying problem with men I mean you don't communicate tell the world what you want for Father's Day for me personally like spend a little bit time with my kids And then just go to the golf course just like time away to just So you you feel like you're you know doing that but then like a trip to the golf course Listen my opinion I don't play a lot of golf. So this Father's Day all I want to do is just go play around It's easy. I like that but I would say I saw you I heard you say like hey You got to wear these shirts if I don't like the shirt. I'm not wearing it really Yeah, like I don't care like what it is like luckily my wife's like keep me fashion forward like whatever it is Yeah, she doesn't like you know put me anything like bad or anything But if I got something I didn't like but it's so funny I made you this off and then you have to wear it or a tie that they're Yes, that's world's best dad and look why Okay, so I thought we could take a look at and my producer Eric looked this up These are this is Esquire. This is the top 2023 gifts according to them craft beer club subscription Farabody fair. That's a good one there a body thing like yeah, we have I have like 15 though There's NFL. So yeah a personalized money clip is a terrifying gift Yeah, anything personal. I do a person last dad don't care moms not really mom like they don't care a pizza I've been like you said great a Yeti cooler. I ain't go to Dick's Sporting Goods, baby Get those a meat thermometer. That's good. You like yeah, I like that It's like a really good meat thermometer or like just so you can cook your steak your chicken perfectly like I'm all I'm all in What about like subscriptions when they're like pick into the mouth club What do you know you're out on that? Yeah, because it's just if I don't use it it just it takes up freezer space and I like my freezer space Okay, I love that so here. I thought I have a couple gifts that I want you to tell me but I mean for these sort of get I literally think I'm not kidding go to Dick's Sporting Goods I just shot another commercial there and it's that it's like a city you go in there And there's everything you could possibly need so that's the first place that I would go But these are sort of ideas from my from sort of the partner vantage point granted I'm not married and I don't have a husband that has kids, but I'm gonna help you guys anyway because I know Men don't get them. Okay. Here's what I would do. Don't get them like a pizza oven or a meat thermometer You here's what you do you find as as the woman as the partner the mom You find a concert to a show that he would like to go to and you would like to go to but you pick it on a weekend That yeah, it takes a lot of research. Okay girls like to be prepared Let's say you have a golf weekend with the boys in Scottsdale. Yeah, just a golf weekend in Scottsdale I've been I've had that line used on me before and then you find oh Pearl Jam Pearl Jam is playing that weekend Those are the tickets you get amazing because you know he's saying I can't go Pearl Jam Here's the tour right of course, but you pick a week And you say oh great September 10th is always the weekend that he goes and visits Uncle Bobby down in Nashville So that's the weekend I'm picking because then you get it for him and you're up and then he says I can't go and you go You can't and then you get to go to see Pearl Jam. Yeah, so you like the gifts that keep giving you I got you in some way who wants a craft? I mean, I'd love to go to Pearl Jam. There we go. Okay. Okay wife He's watching down in San Diego. Let's go. Um, don't get them a craft beer Subscription guys. I think Sunday tickets a great gift. Oh, I this is not an ad. This is no affiliation But listen, it's both ways if you're a football fan, it's a great gift for you You're getting it for him but you but it's you know You're like the queen of the world if you get this gift for your entire family And if you're not a football fan, it's also a great gift for you That's a great gift because it is putting your biggest child your husband and father of your beautiful children in front of a TV for hours And hours and you can do whatever you want on Sundays. Yeah, unless you have kids You got to take care of the kids. It could backfire. Yeah, but then we want to teach him young Listen, these kids are on tiktok. They can't handle longer than five minutes. Welcome to 12 hours of Scott Hanson Everyone that that's the best way to get people out of that sort attention span thing Okay, what are other gift options? I think I have so yeah Sunday ticket would be good. Okay, Matt You said it the second I said meet thermometer you went. Oh, I'm in. Oh a gadget All in dudes are so you guys love gadgets any sort of gadget is such a rope a dope for you I have several friends who have bought Manipulatively which is what father's day is all about these dice and vacuums. Have you heard of these? Oh, yeah, we have one that it needs replacing honestly, so we could I could get one. I do like that They cost like nine thousand. They were not $9,000 seven years ago. They're like 200 inflation, man 500 500 50 600 bucks. They're expensive, but they're worth it I'm telling you ladies mortgage your house for this because I have all of my friend I have called four different friends in the last four months or so that are like Griffin is vacuuming like he loves vacuuming. We got this dice in fact It is such an easy thing if you want your husband to do chores around the house You want dad dad to start vacuuming? Yeah, it's his name's Griffin and he's dating Tanya and he needs to marry Tanya And that's what I think. Oh, yes, they're talking in my ear. That's a real thing She's like he likes vacuuming because he got this stupid gadget. Those vacuums are pretty powerful They are fun. Like I don't mind vacuuming around the kitchen and around the house with those Yeah, I mean we like it get dad anything. That's like home improvement been searched 5,000 Yeah, because he's gonna take care of the home stupid for you. It's gonna look nice No, he's doing it for you because you guys love gadgets Okay, so then and the other gift I had on here was one that I mentioned in the meeting Maybe like an air tag like an Apple air tag. Have you heard of these? Oh, definitely Why an air tag just because you know, like you can like you want to keep They lose things all the time. So like their golf bag you can just put don't even tell them you're getting it Just slip it in there just because it's a nice thing to know, you know, put it in their car In case they lose their car so you can track them and then you put I mean you don't have to tell them you're doing Oh, just get it as a gift. What what Hamilton? I'm into a psychologist or therapist and have them break this down and tell us what this says about you because there's a lot going on here and I Was gonna say it Apple air tags this says a lot about you these gifts. That's all I'm gonna say That one was a joke with the Dyson vacuum is a great trick. Yeah, I like it. I'm all in you guys are so easy All right, let's we'll take a short break here coming up. It's you and me and then coming up It's you and Hamilton and I've got ridiculous photos of the two of you from is it I can't wait see you at the Mizzou We might have some pick no, but I Gotta We're back with 14-year NFL vet highs and finalists in Mizzou Tigers legend chase Daniel in the meantime Hamilton is uploaded that video to all of my dating apps. So No one's ever taking me out ever again after Apple air tag gates. It was just a joke people chase You've been a free agent for about two years now. Is that true? No, I was with the Chargers. Yeah chargers now Yeah, what's your story? What's next? I don't know, you know, we're taking it day by day step by step So we'll just we'll see what happens. There's been some interest from teams, but I'm in no rush to sign and I've been enjoying doing this media stuff I did NFL network throughout the year and just different shows like this like pop-in shows like this So we'll see what happens, but I still feel like I can play at a really high level still want to play at a high level But you know, you never know what will happen. Would you learn about yourself or would you learn about the business? I mean you've been covered your entire life by people like me and then all of a sudden you're standing there with D'Angelo Hall Omar Ruiz who I love at NFL media and you crushed it So what did you learn in that process that well just a lot like how shows just put together? I remember my first show going in my first one my wife went to Mizzou as well and she was journalism major So she sort of prepped me on like what a show could look like, but I walked in I was telling you know Hammer and you I was like I walked in the first time doing the show and I'm like, okay We're building a show from scratch because it's a reaction to show It's not like you have points to talk about before so you go and you watch the show and these these guys and producers are talking about like Hey, here's an a-block. Here's a b-block. I'm like, what is it? Here's an exo. Here's the tail. I'm like, what is that? Yeah, look at the jib. I'm like where's there's like 15 cameras I'm like am I am I looking at the camera am I looking at you know So that to me the first couple shows was difficult to sort of wrap my head around But then just everyone there at NFL media and NFL Network were so great It just helped me learn the ropes and so by like my third or fourth show The producers were you know, hey, what should we talk about today? So I felt a lot more comfortable Well, it's just because it's a reaction show, but you know, that's the thing you know the game as quarterbacks You go, you know, you know what to see here's the three or four points And so it was really cool to be able to do I think I did like 20 shows So it was it was really good reps. I hired a broadcast agent last year Even when I was playing because I'm like listen, I think I think I want to do this For a long time because you can do it for a lot longer than you played But also you could learn so much about different opportunities and different media And you just have a really good appreciation for what you guys and girls Do to cover the most popular game in the world. I think you're saying you can't do it for as long as you played It played for a long time 14 years You can talk to the ball We were at the same time so you're just as old as I am I know I'm just like this bank 14 and hence the lasers 14 years You are a quarterback in the league right and you played for exactly one quarter of the nfl's current head coaches Broadcasters like that that you are you're a gem. You're bringing gold. All you have to do is talk about this Three super bowl champions in this group shampai and and you read dump peterson. They all have wildly different unique personalities What's the biggest thread those three had in common? That's a great question So, I mean, yeah, I mean hammer put this list together and sent it to me last night and I'm like It's been like wow like you actually just take a step back for a little bit See and understand like this is really really cool And that's sort of why I've been able to stay around so long except have great relationships But the common thread between those three coaches, right? Andy read shampai and doug peterson all super bowl champions They all know how to talk to the team. It's all personality based and I'm not saying that these other coaches don't but they have a way of Really funneling what they want to say Two players and these these are grown men not there's not college level players Well, they'll just believe you it's the accountability factor. It's exactly what they wanted to do is like Sean Peyton is like probably the most swaggiest coach I've ever been around but he does it in a way that challenges players to play harder and play better for him Give me an example. Well, he just walks in he'll walk down the hall And I remember like my first year there and I'm going for backup It was like me and patrick ramsey an old school name in louisiana We were it was 2010 is after we won the super bowl and I was third string and I was competing for second string I had a horrible training camp practice and it was an open competition They said and Sean was like hey, like, you know, don't worry about it But like that pass you missed that a grade school guy can do that and I was like Oh, you know, it was it wasn't in like a mean roux way But it was like almost like a snarky way where I walked away like I'm gonna prove you wrong Like I'm gonna prove you so there's all sorts of details like that and he does it by each player It's not just the team. It's so hard to understand But you you can respect a guy like that. That's a players coach and what do I mean by players coach? He demands respect But he'll also be confident and swaggy and snarky in ways that just relates to the players I think the coolest thing about him and the thing that that goes Sort of underrated or under pressure, but guys like him and tomlin And really you can say what you want about bellachuck I know he's not a players coach but the fact that you can get to players I'll let's take bellachuck out of it because it's sort of going to muck up the thing here But the fact that you can do it over and over. Yeah, that's the thing Like sure like it'll work for five years But if you're peak carol and you're in that lot, but you're still reinventing ways to Relate to your players like it's hard to sustain that and do that There's no doubt about it and the thing about all these special coaches, right? All these coaches on the list and some more around the league That's a good one carol. They've got some great ones, but they know how to keep a locker room together There's going to be ebbs and flows in the year. It's not always going to be great The number one thing that andy reed did in his first year. I was there his first year In kansas city was he really set the culture from day one This is what and it's just very black and white This is what's expected of you and this is how we're going to get there And we went nine and oh to start the year in 2013 and it's like that helps So you have to have success on the field for it to actually like hey in grain But they've built such an amazing culture there and culture matters Culture wins in the national football league. Who is the best culture in the NFL right now? Who's the best what who is the best culture you think in the NFL? Who has a culture that if you were to like Give them an award. So I think that there are Like on any given year, there's between five to eight teams that really have it together, right? You start and those are the teams that are winning you start with buffalo Cincinnati, kansas city, I'd say new orleans. It's still ingrained in that culture And what did it sound is to be able to do there? Like la la chargers were awesome culture Like people wanted to go to work there and the results on the field were were mixed the last two years with staley But you can see it flip once there's a little injection of new of any new leadership or that defined culture from Yeah, and so that's why these five to eight teams year after year are playing in the playoffs Very few like Doug Peterson. I'll take you he took a really difficult urban mire led team Last year and and really turned it around they had the same people for the most part Now they added some pieces in free agency christian kirk some free agent stuff like that But like what he was able to do it's it's a direct reflection on him and the staff that he built Right, you've talked to these head coaches and they say and I ask them and people say all the time What's the best thing you can do as a head coach hire an amazing staff because your staff is the one That's injecting the culture Daily into your players into your position players and you take it position by position and it grows Offense defense special teams it grows into one and I thought Doug did a really good job of that Yeah, and they had that down of course think shanahan has that and I was out with you know without ryan He's you know, I'm fran. You look at san fran. Yeah, I mean it's like one of the better teams in the league You mentioned the chargers and them being a great culture place. What happened then last year? I will come on injuries Injuries really 100% this is not excuses. You look at michael alan or mike williams and keenan alan And just what they meant to that team. I mean they played two games three games Maybe together the entire year and that was the big that was a big thing about the chargers forever and in 2021 My first year there. We were extremely healthy. We just couldn't really get over the hump Um, but last year, I mean you look at the last seven eight games are defense the defense I say our divins. I'm not on the team. They're defense. You might be again. Who knows you gotta create you here, baby But you look at those last seven eight games and they really started playing ball like brandon staley Coached and hoped that they would but we didn't have joey bosa. I mean you have superstar players That were out keenan alan all three pro bowlers keenan alan mike williams joey bosa Among others that are out um our starting left the starting left tackle rishan slater So entries definitely Hurt yeah now what they were able to do and what we were able to do last year Was build on it and make the playoffs and obviously, you know, you you have the playoff loss, which Is rough you're up 27 nothing and the crazy fact about it is is I've been a part of two of the worst comebacks in nfo playoff history I was a part of that game on the sideline and I was also part of do you remember the 2013 indianapolis colts andrew luck diving fumble game against the chiefs It was 28 points. Those are the two worst come and I was on the wrong end of it So like I've seen some crape. I was on the minnesota miracle wrong into that. I've had some What are we doing but anyway, it's just it's it's all about culture in the nfl and that culture is right And your players your superstar players buy in yeah like the chargers have the chargers players have Sure, but I mean that playoff loss brandon staley got a lot of grief for that from the outside And i'm sure from that locker room. Yeah culture has he's gonna have to pick everybody up off than that right now Well, I think a lot of that had to do with um in week 17 playing starters when it was already You know said that hey, we were going to go to jacksville But I get what he said and you saw michael williams come out yesterday like hey, I trust coach I try and it that's how I didn't see that he said he said listen It was his first media availability since he broke us back that game and he and I read it on the way up here He said he said pretty much like we trust our coach like we get paid to play football We wanted to play and I agree with that but at the same time Like that locker room they trust it like staley has the locker room. He has not even remotely lost the locker room They believe in him to lesko believes in them Everyone believes in them and and if you have everyone believing in them I think they're going to make some if they can stay healthy It's it's a scary roster like up and down the roster. It's pretty scary. Justin herbert believe in him Yeah, yeah, I mean he does he does and and I think he's excited about kelin more coming in for the first year The left yeah, I mean me and kelin or like we were playing ball at the same time like he's my age and he's But you know offensive coordinator you look at his offense the last five years It's like top six in the league every single year. So they're going to score points It's just can their defense can their defense chase. This is not lip service You are not you are not just saying it like I'm sitting here three feet from you. You are you believe in it chargers Yeah, I mean I truly do I truly do because you look at the roster up and down It's one of the most talented top two or three rosters has been for the past It has been can they take the next step? Can they have a playoff when can they go make a deep playoff run? The afc is loaded. Yeah, well loaded. Okay, but shan peyton. You just got to get into the tournament shan peyton in the division Now he's there. Now look at him. Look at russell wilson. How's that going to go? Well, you look at the defense right the defense is something that shan want He wanted to go to a place where the defense was really really good And this dimford defense is top five in the league in every category. They're going to be that again this year Now it's going to be the saint's offense. It's going to be the chargers offense So how well is he going to Install it how well is he going to pick it up in terms of russell wilson, right? Like russell and drew have some similarities. Of course, they're both six feet But they're they're they're insatiable appetite for like competing Both of those guys is what I just draw from that and that is what shan wants Like shan is going to get the absolute most out of them. I think obviously russell's year last year It's been talked about what he was able to do last year He was hurt. He was injured. He's healthy. They said he's shadowed 12 to 14 pounds I don't know what that's going to do with it's a huge storyline. I don't know what that's going to do with his play Everyone wants to talk about it. What I'm interested about is like Can you run the ball early in the year to get russell really comfortable because the offense is very very Sounds like they should add a running back that might be on the market. I'm just saying dalvin Do you think they should I don't know if they have the money. I mean, I think they should Everyone in the league should add them because he's the best available guy It's not the stupidest thing that he's out there this like a thousand-yard receiver. I can't believe it a guy Talk about being injured. He was injured to most of last year Loudly, he also had the shoulder situation. He can't exactly be this power running back And then he had literally no room to run on most plays and most runs last year with that offense I don't I don't get the whole point of like cutting a guy who's not making a huge salary But you have alexander madison, but like you need a one-two punch in this league Like yeah, like it's just you have to have it dalvin wants to go to a winner and he's going to get He's going to get between, you know six to ten million probably I don't know if it's a multi-year or not, but it's all about this these running You talk about the running back marker right now. It's it's at the very bottom you talk about It's not the money. It's the structure of the deal How is this deal structured? How is it going to get paid out? And that's big for him He doesn't want to take an under market deal because he ruins it for everyone. That's already low Everyone behind it and and I'm sure he wants a little bit extra time. Maybe maybe middle of training camp. He's a vet That's interesting. He's going take your time Maybe there's an injury and you're going to get more money than you hoped I mean, there's there's there's that game to this too. Uh, take a sip of water making you talk quite a lot I mean, we pour a thing over here. We're getting through so much stuff We're having so much fun You my friend were a heisman finalist and you had multiple double digit When seasons at mizu and you went undrafted because there was a stupid perception You mentioned your breeze and you mentioned role so wilson both six foot guys that you couldn't have A sustainable long nfl career. We are seeing this change, right? We are seeing quarterbacks like baker mayfield and kyla murray and bryce young get drafted number one overall so what percentage of you is glad that this percentage that this is finally shifting and Be honest with me like what percentage is a little upset that It didn't happen while you were playing. Yeah, well, my my whole thing about quarterbacks is if you can play you can play I don't care how tall you are. I don't care how short you are in fact They there's lots of studies in I've read a bunch of them where they say actually like six seven and over is bad So like they're saying six seven six six to six foot I mean you look at the history of the game six seven quarterbacks There's not a lot and you look at the game six foot and under now you're seeing that change is hey NFL offenses are moving toward college offenses and and they're sort of commingling And so that is what's able for these guys that are short guys to be able to really take the next step in the nfl game Now size doesn't matter you move. I was a part of I was a teammate with drew breeze for five years. He was the best I've ever seen He's six foot at moving slightly to find a hole in the pocket to throw Right, it's not like you're throwing over these guys. Justin Herbert. He gets balls batted down at the line Because he's not you know Everyone does it but these six foot guys have to be really good at sliding left and right in the pocket So it is cool to see these six foot five ten Bryce young kylin murray can Bryce young move and find that hole in the pocket I mean everything we've seen at Bama. He was never rushed. He was he's offensive He was barely touched but when he did need to get out of the pocket. He was the smoothest guy I've seen out of the draft class just sliding getting out of the pocket I I thought all along, you know, there was hearsay here left and right about is he going to be drafted or more? I mean it was always going to be Bryce young for carolina not even close I'm not worried necessarily about His height his height doesn't matter now. He looks fragile on film And what I mean by that he looks like he weighed in like 190 195 when the stresses of the season get in and you're barely eating and you're working out every day Is he gonna be above 180? That's what I'm worried about. I'm not worried about his height I'm worried about his weight. Can he sustain these massive human beings? He needs to pick up those 12 pounds from Russell Wilson. Yeah Just switch them up switch them up a little bit. So I I am glad the perception's changed And I'm not gonna lie and sit here and say that when I wasn't drafted even at all like it heard a little But also like hey, I'm my agent was like you're just not tall enough And now it's like that's not the case. So I'm glad the perception's changing But also I had to work and fight and scratch and claw for every single thing that I've had like in my nfl career And so I wouldn't change it at all. Like it's left a chip on my shoulder To say hey, I always have to be in proven mode and that's sort of how all nfl quarterbacks have to be in the national League like you have to be in proven mode. Yeah Constantly that's really really well said I want to ask you about a couple nfl storylines because you are an analyst you're doing it while you play I mean you did it last year for nfl media, which is amazing And that's a job that a lot of guys around the league would love to have and you you had it and We're breaking things down and hopefully seeing it from a little bit different of a vantage point taking a step back This defund digs thing in april. There were some weird tweets. I didn't like it. Asked shama koi about it He's like there's nothing to it. And then of course this sort of happens and there's something weird, right? There's something to it There's something to it. So you're hearing shama german at the top of the show By the way, he said a couple days ago very concerning very concerning very concerned. That's that's to me like I don't know why he said that Where I get everything and he said very concerned and then he flips the switch and said it's ended I'm like Wait, what? But maybe it did But but you as a head coach, you know what you're doing. Yeah, it was weird You go in front of the media and shama german is amazing one of the top five favorite coaches out there Like just a solid human being but when you go from saying very concerned one day Stefan digs is at physicals. He's at meetings, but he doesn't show up at practice They had to blow up whatever that happens. I get it. But then you come on the media He says he's very concerned and then the next day like hey, he's back in the building everything's all good And then they cancel their Wednesday practice, right? Which is that that to me is like It's an interesting timeline of events and I thought mitch morris said it perfectly. Yes, you're like, hey like I love Stefan digs I gotta come out here and do my job, you know and and I want Stefan and everyone to be the happiest version of themselves He's one of he's he's one of the best teammates. I've been around I also think that they're working through it I think they're they're doing the thing that they're supposed to do which is have possibly uncomfortable conversations have some Have some candidness which can be hard at times But in the end you appreciate it and you work out whether any facet of life. So To answer your question, I don't totally know what's going on. So I can't answer it But I'm sure it'll work itself out one way or another I hadn't seen that yet. Why is this playing out so publicly? It's just a weird. Yeah, well because What happened after the loss obviously the playoff loss last year in the snow Yeah in the snow and then obviously like there's been something There's something up and it's something that listen Stefan everything I've heard about him is is he's awesome He's a competitor. It's probably the competitor in him coming out But I also agree with what the former tiger Mitch Morris said I mean mazu great there is like, hey, like everyone else has stuff to do Like you got to get in josh ellen's working on it. Stefan digs is working on it Yeah, it was an honest answer and and you you can appreciate that but at the end of the day like Everyone's like, hey, it's done. It's done. It seems like a lot of people are getting to his agent and putting it out to the media Like just drop it. Let's not do it. We're going to summer. Let's not make it a thing But there's something to be said about like what's going on. I don't think it's a huge deal It's hard to speculate like Mitch said but something something else is going on right now Is the time that like teams should be hard like coaches should be harping on like don't do anything Like don't you don't you guys realize we have nothing to talk about? Yeah Yeah impromptu emergency PSA to everybody out there Teams wise like we have nothing so like when you're thinking about like, you know Doing something whether you're you know on a yacht somewhere or in vegas somewhere and like something might get like videotaped or or Like whatever like might play out like we are gonna we are we are starving We are thirsty. We have been walking around a barren desert since february Just looking for scraps like vultures and hyenas don't give it to us Don't this this is probably a nothing and but there's nothing so we're all literally like when chum lands in the water like Let's go get it and like crush it and pull it under and eat something And so like that would be my advice and that's probably what this is But it is interesting If it creeps up again, which it might because the playoff stuff is going to happen for the bills We hope so but you've been you've been around stars. I mean Devondex is a bona fide star We saw him become a star with many miracle. I will never forget that in my entire life. Well, I was on the sideline. Yeah Sean Payton Travis Kelsey you've been around the michael thomas is speaking of things like not being in media But like when somebody gets decked like it's going to be and you have to face it that didn't happen here What is the key? What is the key to those quarterback receiver relationships? Well, it You know it starts in the off season It starts now because you have so much more time. You're you're you're almost at like a Eight to two p.m. Job every day So your only job is to go work out have meetings bill relationships And the good and the great relationships between quarterbacks receivers They're throwing on the side in the off season They're spending time together in the off season They're not saying that everyone is right because a lot of guys come June 15th today is like the day that everyone disperses And these head coaches like you were saying hope that Nothing happens in the off season that gets on media But what's you see more and more quarterbacks star quarterbacks star receivers doing or they get they're getting together for these pre training camp throwing sessions and that's awesome that that helps build camaraderie That shows you that you're both on the same page. So when you go into training camp It's not going to be like hey, we're not on the same page But there's a lot that goes into this right like you're grown men Everyone has their own stuff to do to quote mitch morris again But can you get on the same page and and what are you willing to give up because everyone has something to do Are you willing to give up and sacrifice? What are you willing to give up and sacrifice to be really really good in this league? Because the only way you get that way is through repetition And by growing as a player by growing as as inevitably something's going to happen Right, or inevitably somebody's going to get their feelings So they're not getting the bodies of personalities or millionaires or whatever So I guess I would just say have you ever you know, do you have to love your quarterback? Do you have to be travis kelsey in the homes or can you be? Yeah, if you want the ball You were never and you've been in so many locker rooms You've never been in a locker room where like the wide receiver one or two doesn't love the quarterback or a mutual And and it worked never it has to be I'm sure there are some situations like that random marshal jay cutler comes to Yeah, but also like I mean there's big personalities like you said you said it so well There's big personalities around the league, but for every locker room that I've been in which has been a lot through 14 years It's like hey these receivers and these quarterbacks. They're on the same page because Listen, no one's getting paid if y'all aren't on the same page if this quarterback If you're the number one receiver and you're not meshing with the quarterback Hey, you're not getting if you're the quarterback and you're not meshing with your receivers You're not getting paid either. So it's work it out gentlemen work it out. Yeah, it's it's a growing men's sport We're gonna take a short break here. Finally, jeez. We'll be long a segment ever We'll be back with chase daniel and uh, we gotta talk to you a little bit more about herber But hamlin will be here hammer proud dad over there. Just watching this happen. We'll be back Grab a slice of jakespheres Go through the lawn. Oh, maybe turn around and get some butchers and mazoo We've got chase daniel here in studio as some of you know matt hamilton also A mazoo graduate and he was a student coach with him in the rest of the quarterbacks at Missouri Do we have photos? Look, it's you too. Oh, no beard. Look a hammer in the background. No beer. Come on. That doesn't look like a hammer I doesn't even look like the k.u. Game the k.u. That was that was awesome. Oh my gosh Was that after a night at harpos? Oh, I think those had uh, big chunks. Look at the flavor saver. What are we doing? The flavor saver I'm so glad my wife got me to grow a beer. That was before you got that hardy collection. Yes. Oh my god You're your wife everything if she's got she's getting you prep for tp She's dressing you three beautiful kids fashion advice. I mean she's she's the world. I totally agree. Yeah. Yeah, let's do it Chase uh, justin herbert. We want to talk about it. He's in the middle of contract negotiations We got to talk to him at super bowl. This dude was hurt one of the toughest players out there That's what we know and there's people out there who are idiots That don't believe he should be paid like one of the top quarterbacks in the league You spent the last two years backing him up You know him inside and out in that locker room on the field and off of it You were with matthew stafford, of course. I'm drew breeze take us inside the film show us guys Does justin belong in that top tier of qbs that you know so well I mean, I totally totally agree and i'm not just biased because i've been there But just what he's been able to do Not only off the field for that team but on the on the field for the team. This is Week three against jacksonville. All right. We're in an empty set. We're getting the break speed off of us He doesn't need to be playing right now It's third and 15 and what we have here is a little bit of show of his arm strength right now They're in too deep safeties and they're man underneath this play is not meant for this You're going to see jaylon geighton in the slot right here go up run a post Justin sees the field safety get off the hash To go cover josh palmer down here and what does justin do buy some time? He throws it off a foot and it's like a 62 To 65 yard dime I mean the the crazy thing about this is this play is not made for man coverage, but he makes some time He's off a foot. He just like slings it with a rib injury with a rib injury by the way He is like cracked ribs. How bad were the injuries? It was horrible. It was horrible I mean it he would never say it publicly, but he struggled with it But he he missed one snap all year long. You're gonna look at this fourth and 12 game on the line This is a play-in game two years ago 2021 against raiders two man coverage again. Nope It's coming down and we like to call this guy a robber. Why is it a robber? He robs the middle of the field He's looking at keenan allen in the slot right there. Of course they double keenan But i'm okay dude, but they only rush three people here Steps up and out. This is fourth and 12. This is not like first and 10 throws it in a place where only Keenan allen can get it. I mean if we don't even have this game We don't there's no way we even take it to overtime He scans the field steps up once again just off the right foot back shoulder By the way with a guy draped all over me you see this stuff all the time in practice But for him to actually do it in a game with a game on the line like For all these people out there They are idiots that they're saying that they don't think he can he can play or he's he's not good enough to get paid In the top five receivers. I think we're gonna see it come out It's it's gonna be a high number. Yeah, and the other thing too that I love It's not just the special things that you can do athletically and the arm strength I don't think he gets enough credit for his processing and the stuff He does within the confines of the play in the pocket. Check this out also against the raiders You're gonna have a little drag dig combo here at the bottom skinny post from deandre carter in the slot And the raiders are disguising this coverage to try to trick him here They got the safety walk down. He's going to drop back. They're playing a tampa two look Herbert deciphers it immediately. He knows where he wants to go with this football He wants to go to jean drake carter on the skinny post and you'll see he's going to put this ball Perfectly in between these three defenders on a rope and protect carter from the linebacker divine He's dropping in the middle of the field too and you'll see it really from this angle the trajectory of this start Just an absolute rope a laser and you can't place it any better than that because your text is receiver from the hit This is special stuff and again, we get so wowed by the athletic stuff This is the stuff you have to do consistently to be a great quarterback in this league And we see it from him snap after snap. Yeah, and honestly that route was supposed to be a corner route Really? Yes. And so what they got on the page before the game is hey, if it's too high tampa two Like you said, let's just take a post. Let's take a skinny post deandre carter was awesome for us Not only to run game last year, but stepped up with some big injuries to keen and allen Yeah, and and and again to see that to see that that safety is going to drop and make that adjustment on the fly That makes it even more special to those lasers you like. Oh, yeah Herbert has 102 total touchdowns in his first three seasons, you know, I'm a numbers girl That's more than any quarterback in nfl history. That's breaking down marino's previous record off the field I've heard I'm an inch of her and if people don't think I am I I really am no I like to recharge. I like seriously. Yeah, he says that he is he's uh, he's in his head a little bit People say that that means he can't be a leader I totally disagree with that He is 100% introvert and he opens up to guys who he trusts and who he loves but He is the same guy Every single day in that locker room and that is what guys want out of their quarterback They want consistency. They want the same guy if you're introverted be introverted If you're extroverted if you're a personality if you want to lead by Like by yelling and scream do that. Yeah, and there are guys like that pat my homes is like that But you're saying Justin Herbert works that team has is in his hands. Absolutely. I mean, look at what he's done He breaks mid like first of all like there's a difference between not actually performing on the field Not putting up stats not actually doing what you say you're gonna do But when he does it and he does it at a rate that's the best in nfl history like come on guys Yeah, there we go. That's all you have. I know I just see is this tape. It's unbelievable chase Daniela You're either uh going to a broadcast booth or an nfl team near you We're wishing you all of the best of course and come back and visit us and we really put you to work today We'll be back here and I'm like After this commercial break and I've done a lot of stupid things on this show One of the stupidest things ever is going to happen I'm going to let people take control and say whatever they want right here on the show Don't go anywhere. Oh boy NBA finals are over. We fell in love with nba first basket bets here And uh, we have a couple guys in our production staff not me and they did their thing and they won And what did they win when they called the first basket a full minute of airtime not quite a full minute Eric would go for it You hit it. All right. I hit it with bam I'm on the clock right now and I just want to talk about why I don't like the mlb pitch clock And the reason I don't like it is because as a lifelong brewers fan It is stealing my time from mr. Baseball bob yooker Okay, you can relate you're a brewers fan yourself. I don't think we're dating now because I don't think you're why I'm listening to brewers game Go on. Don't let the internet talk. All right. There we go. Uh, you know as a brewers fan There's nothing we love more than hearing bob yooker talk about putting cedar crest ice cream on a bratwurst, you know Like is it worth taking 30 minutes off the game to miss out on stories of bob yooker getting pissed drunk with Harry carry at a knight's of columbus charity auction. I don't think so. Okay I don't want 30 less minutes of baseball. I'm missing a story about bob yooker drinking grasshoppers with telly Telly so it's savalas And you know bob hope at the smokehouse in burbank. Okay, I don't like this pitch clock We need to get up get out of here and be gone with it I thought you were reading a script very impressed. Who's next hamilton go Okay, I can't believe you left Tom Brady for Eric, but um, I want to do something in the spirit of father's day Today first of all happy father's day to my dad, but I found out something about a show dad that you may not know Brian's father kirk barton was a quarterback at the university of buffalo Let's bring up the picture Happy father's day to kirk And wait if you want to understand why brian is the way he is Listen to this quote after they canceled buffalo's football program in 1970 He was asked about transferring to play somewhere else and he said I can't for the life of me think anyone would put up money for me to go somewhere else when I have a bum knee And only one year of eligibility left way to sell yourself kirk Happy father's day to all the dads out there. 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