 Tonight is the November 20th meeting of the development review board for the city of Montpelier. We'll open the meeting and we'll have Meredith review the remote procedures. Okay, so everybody who's on tonight knows the little spiel but I've still got to do it for anybody watching via work media. I'm going to share my screen. So, for anyone watching tonight's development review board meeting via work media, you can participate in tonight's discussion via the zoom platform through either video or telephone access options. So if you want the full video experience, please type this link into your web browser, and it should open up the zoom platform, and I'll get a message that you're asking to come into the meeting and let you in. Alternatively, you can just use your phone and dial in at this number, plug in this meeting ID. And again, I'll get a little notice and let you into the meeting. 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The meeting will need to be continued to a time and place certain on now hand the meeting back over to the chair. Great. Thank you. Maybe let's just go around and identify who is here for the board. Do you want to start. Let me just be your name and so people know who's on who's here for the board tonight. Joe Kiernan. The RV member. Rob. Kevin O'Connell DRB member. Goodwin DRB member. Alex. Alex Halas DRB member. Catherine. Catherine Burgess DRB member. Great. I believe the other people are with the applications. So has everyone reviewed the agenda? Yes. I'll make a motion to approve the agenda. Second. All those in favor. I unanimously pass the agenda has been approved. Thank you. Two things in front of us this evening. 22 Liberty street, which was a continued hearing from last time. That application has been withdrawn. So we need to officially close the hearing that has been continued from last week. I would entertain a motion to do so. We're closing the hearing permanently. Meredith. I'll make a motion to withdraw the application. Okay. After discussions. Just want to be clear about that. I'll make a motion to withdraw the application of. 22 Liberty street. I'll second the motion. Discussion on that. Could we modify that to. Close the hearing instead of withdraw because we're not withdrawing. Okay. So, so I accept that. Okay. Great. All right. So we have a motion and a second on the floor. All those in favor of closing the continued hearing. Say aye. Aye. Aye. Those not in favor. And that passed unanimously to close the 22 Liberty street application. Our next application. Is the 36 college streets. A conditional review of use to. Change to an office space. And let's I guess. Here. Pretty briefly from Meredith. About. The slight summary of what the application is. And then we'll move to the applicant and then we'll move to board questions. So. This is pretty much exactly what it says it is. It's changing a section of the current VCFA administrative building. From what we classify right now as sort of a higher education use. To an office use. And it's not something that really is going to change the impacts. But technically office right now in mixed use residential is a conditional use. So it has to come to the board because it's no longer going to be an academic use. That's why it's before you. It's everything's laid out in the staff report. I don't really see any red flags with it, but it's not something I can approve right now into the current zoning. As a little flag and that's may put in the staff report. If you take a, I don't think I put it in the staff report. If you take a look at the proposed zoning changes that are available on the website and they have a public hearing on December 11th. So it's going to be a sub set of a whole bunch of other uses. So it's going to be subsumed into personal and professional services. Thank you. I think. I think the staff report was really clear and very helpful on that. In terms of what conditional use things we need to review. Katie. Do you want to. Swear, let's swear you in. Raise your right hand. And you promise to tell the whole truth. Nothing about the truth and all the truth under the pain and penalties of perjury. I do. Great. You want to give a brief description of what's going on. Sure. So. So. So. I think the staff report was really clear and very helpful on that in terms of what conditional use things we need to review. Katie. Do you want to swear? Let's swear you in. Raise your right hand. And you promise to tell the whole truth and all the truth under the pain and penalties of perjury. And you promise to tell the whole truth and all the truth under the pain and penalties of perjury. So what's going on. Sure. So. I do think I had a summary in the report, but basically. We've got a fair number of employees at this point that are working remotely or hybrid. And so we have. Access office space. And post flood. We've been approached by various organizations looking for. Temporary to. Temporary to permanent. Possible space use. So Senator Welch's office reached out. And they are interested in. Welch or Leahy, I'm sorry. Welch. Okay. Thank you. Yep. If I, if I said that differently in the report. It is Welch. They have, I believe it's three full-time staffers and then the Senator is on site occasionally. They have a lot of staff members. They have constituents that come for appointments. They estimated about maybe five visits a week. So it's very low impact. We have the space. We have sort of a suite of offices that are. Together that have a door that keeps them sort of completely contained. So. We are going through the process of seeing if we can make this decision. That sounds very concise. I think, you know, the consideration here is that they need the conditional use criteria. If people have specific questions about that, or they feel that there's a way in which they don't meet that conditional use. I mean, I don't know if we need to, we certainly can go through the conditional use criteria. But it's a waste of half an hour. I agree with you, Sharon. It's before the, but it's before the council and the council is going to make a change to the zoning anyways. I mean, we could go through it. We maybe we could do it in an expedited way. But, you know, the horse is already out of the barn of his use. Yeah, I kind of feel like that this use, that this, this definition is going to be gone anyway. The regulations are clear with what conditional use would have to do in that. It's pretty clear that they have. And I, like I said, willing to entertain questions, but, and if somebody feels strongly that we should discuss it, we certainly can. Anyone? I would make a motion to grant the request for conditional use and minor site plan approval for 728 square foot office use within college hall at 36 college street has sent in the application Z 2023 0132 and supporting and supplemental materials. I'll second that motion. Let's do a roll call vote. Rob, how do you both? Yes. Kevin. Yes. Alex. Yes. Catherine. Yes. Joe. Yes. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you for the discussion. Any comments from anyone? Oh, I vote yes also. Sorry. Okay. Then that has been moved seconded and improved. Thank you very much. Thanks, Katie for showing up and doing everything just by the book. Love it. Thanks. I will get that decision as quickly as I can. Thank you.