 Listen, Calvin, you mentioned the American system. You said it doesn't work, so let's find out how it does work in America. Now, I'm gonna speak to American writer, Yaron Brooke. Yaron, thank you very much for joining me. Calvin said the system doesn't work in America. So how exactly does it work? Well, there's a lot of truth to what Calvin says. The problem with the American system is there's too much government involvement in it. You don't wanna mimic the American system. What you want is true privatization. I disagree with your panelists in a sense that the NHS is a good idea, but it's not practiced well. No, it's a bad idea. It's a bad idea to central plan any industry. Do we want the government manufacturing our food? Can you imagine what a disaster that would be? Well, when the government starts, in a sense, manufacturing our healthcare, it's a disaster. You get that NHS, you get that, I think, to a smaller degree in the United States. Well, the American system, though, does come into a lot of criticism, actually. Former President Obama, he implemented a system like the NHS, but only the poorest people. And there was quite a lot of backlash against it, even from the poorest people. Has that made a difference? Or is it still running now? Have they scrapped it? What's gone on with that? No, he made it worse. ObamaCare made things worse, not better. It made it much more expensive for most of us to get our healthcare. The American system, look, if you have insurance in the United States and insurance is too expensive because of government regulations, the government controls and government mandates, but if you have insurance in the United States, then you are getting the best healthcare in the United, in the world. I mean, the fact is that when a European, if a wealthy European gets sick, really sick, they don't go to France, they don't go to Switzerland, they don't go to Sweden, they fly to their Cleveland Clinic or the Mayo Clinic, they fly to the United States to get treatment, because the fact is that we get amazing treatment here. Now, it's true that a certain percentage of Americans don't have health insurance, and that is a real problem, but the problem there is that regulations and controls and government intervention drive up the cost of insurance primarily for poor people, and that can be solved if there's a political will to solve it, but that requires more freedom, less government intervention, less regulation, not the other way around. Interesting stuff. So do you think that the people in America are envious of our NHS? There was a time when it was the envy of the world. No, I don't think anybody's envious of the NHS. Anywhere in the world, it's, I mean, I know it's kind of religion in the UK to believe in the NHS, you can't criticize it, but the fact is you have one of the worst healthcare systems in the developed world, many of your European neighbors do much better than you do, and the fact is, again, that I think when you have insurance, if you have insurance in the United States, you get far better treatment. So, and then you talk about waiting lists and waiting lines, I wanna get an MRI, I can get an MRI tomorrow paid for by insurance. If I wanna go see a doctor, I can see him almost immediately. If there's an emergency, everything is available to me if I have insurance. So the American healthcare system is far superior, but it's not ideal. We could make it a lot better, and if you were restructuring your system, if you were gonna redo the NHS, you could do a lot better than the American system, but the principle is the more you privatize, the better, and the ideal is privatize everything. Yeah, Yaron Brooks, thank you very much. I like the sound of that writer and podcaster. Yaron seems to think privatize everything. Thank you for listening or watching the Yaron Brooks show. If you'd like to support the show, we make it as easy as possible for you to trade with me. You get value from listening, you get value from watching, show your appreciation. You can do that by going to yaronbrookshow.com slash support by going to Patreon, subscribe star locals, and just making a appropriate contribution on any one of those channels. Also, if you'd like to see the Yaron Brooks show grow, please consider sharing our content and of course, subscribe. Press that little bell button right down there on YouTube so that you get an announcement when we go live. And for those of you who are already subscribers and those of you who are already supporters of the show, thank you. I very much appreciate it.