 Okay, we're good. What's up everybody drew here that anxiety guy.com back again with Billy from anxiety united Hello again. Hello again. You're looking good today, Bill Very bright with some new shining very bright. I'm finally in my cave in my office as usual I think you get some better lighting dude Dear what the lighting won't last here. We've got one day of sunshine. That's all we're permitted per year That's the law over there, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah Today we are done with our anxiety 101. I don't know. We're gonna start calling these maybe we'll keep calling it that I don't know But yeah, we are we've got through the article that I wrote and we went through all of the The little headings in that and we've spent, you know, 11 or 12 episodes on that so hopefully you guys will go back and watch some of that stuff and We're just gonna start winging them. I think going forward. Yes sort of make it up as we go along Yeah, man, and today we're gonna talk about What is sometimes a controversial topic it has been for me when I talk about it And that is the idea that a panic attack isn't necessarily a bad thing And when I say that most people are like, are you out of your mind? Like what are you talking about a panic attack? You want you want me to have you want are you crazy, man? What is up with that? You want me to have a panic attack. Do you hate me? And I think the concept that we're talking about here why a panic attack isn't necessarily a bad thing is It's all related to the idea of acceptance and exposure, right and learning how to react or not react and The general principle I'll throw it out then then we can just kind of kick it around is if you're getting out there and you're working on your stuff, right? So pick anything going to a restaurant going to the shopping mall Whatever is an issue for you and you're working on that you're doing your exposure and you measure the success of that exposure By whether or not you if success to you is that you didn't have a panic attack You might be missing the point a little bit So like having a panic attack while you're doing your exposure work or pushing yourself pushing your boundaries Isn't always a bad thing. So what why isn't a bad thing? Why is it actually a good thing? I? Think something that I've always thought of I don't know where I read it might have been like Claire weak stuff But that was the fact that you should never wait until you feel good to go out and do the stuff That's true because you learn more when you struggle like when I've gone out and done like when I did the 31 days of May or whatever It was right go going out on the days where I felt okay It was just nothing it felt pointless He didn't really feel like I learned anything but the days where I felt you know I could feel anxiety or I was thinking about Sensations symptoms those days when I still went out and went for a walk It was when I came back then that I felt like I don't actually achieve some So when you that's when I'm learning the most that it doesn't matter how I feel I can go out and do whatever Regardless so that for me for me. That's the key. It's like If you you go out and you don't experience anything Yes, it's a great thing that you've gone out and you've you've been able to do it Right, but but if you're trying to get over this then you want to go out and you want to stay out until you feel it And then you want to stay out past that. Yes, that's when you learn That's when you learn That it won't that you're in no danger That's when you learn that it won't be the end of you right because the mechanism here is there's two things that happen there We've talked about this ad nauseam and we'll continue to talk about it. I think ad nauseam The mechanism there is we only learn through experience. This is how the human brain works It's how we learn best and you could read about things and watch videos and listen to podcasts like ours and But until you actually do something you can read about speaking French all you want But until you practice speaking French You're not gonna learn how to do it So and the same thing applies here. So you we only learn through experience So you have to experience the fear and the discomfort and the panic in order to truly learn how to deal with that How to not react to it? So and I think the big mistake that everybody makes and two things happen So if you measure success by I didn't panic first of all like you said you didn't really learn anything that day And in fact you may have you may still actually be reinforcing even more that mistaken belief like I can't panic Like I can't pad if I panic it's the end of the world and that's not true That's not true. So it's so counterintuitive. I totally get that. I mean, I'm sure that you've run into people that They just think it's crazy when you say that, you know, like It's not me that you almost needed a panic attack. You need it. That's it Yeah, they'd rather celebrate the fact that they didn't Rather than the fact that they did but they still managed to do it That's what that's a better way. That's a success and that's will propel you forward So I will tell you that I think I might have mentioned it in one of the past episodes It's going back a few weeks now I had one of the most intense panic episodes that I've had in years Yeah, going back a few days and I was talking to You know, I was actually talking to the person that I was with at the time And I said, you know, that was a really great day That person said, yeah, but you know, you had that massive panic attack. I'm like, yes I had a horrible panic attack that day. I said, but that was a great day They didn't understand why I said that and really in the end It was a great day because that actually made me even more I feel even more indestructible after that in a way. Yeah, that makes any sense. Yeah You're still standing still standing like and that was as intense as I've felt in a very long time But it was that was a good experience to have so you have to get to the point where you can look back on that and say It's socked. I wouldn't want to do it again But yeah, if I had to do it again, all right Like it makes me feel even more bulletproof than I already did and that's experience That's experience and unless you experience the panic and don't hide from it You're never gonna get to that point. You'll always be motivated by trying to avoid it And that's it. That's what you've got to really buy into isn't it? That's the key thing is because The longer that you put it off the worse that it gets the more that you create these Catastrophic images in your mind. Yes, and I'm a victim of my own Freaking downfall because I do exactly that and I've said it before like the longer I leave it before I go out the house So if I spend a few days in Guarantee it will be harder that next time so it's about well It's like the very first episode we did of this was the persistence. Yeah the acceptance the courage all that stuff It's all key It is key without unfortunately the courage And I did the series I was doing with Holly We did a whole bunch on on Courage and it's the the ingredient that is most required I think to get to get into that mindset where you will welcome panic attack and actually look back look at it and say Well, this was a great. It was an opportunity to practice Well, well jump from that and we'll discuss the fact that it's my wife's birthday today Yes, although this this podcast will be a week later probably so it was her birthday last week And she wants to go bowling or go out for dinner this evening, which is understandable. It's her birthday And it's only fair that we do something. Yeah, but I'm just I don't know It's not I don't feel that it's like the courage thing because I feel courageous enough to attempt to do it Yeah, but there's this there's this thing that's just bubbling away and it's I'm fearing the worst and I went out for breakfast and I got a bit of that on a vlog and it was very very similar It's just like I'm almost constantly thinking about Is it coming is it coming? Maybe it's not but I'm just thinking is it when is it right? And I'm finding that really difficult with a moment to deal with so it's not a case of like I'm feeling Courageous enough to go and do it, but I'm still concerned about how I'm gonna feel when I'm there Maybe that's something that you can Kick me at the back. So I don't well we yeah, we can talk about that And so here's the way I look at it This is the framework that I always put it in for myself and it worked well for me So if you look behind me, there's guitar hanging on the wall, right? There's a I see by the way That's a very cheap guitar like I've had actually people ask you what is that? That's a squire strat It's a cheap strat. So it's an office guitar So but if I if I grab that guitar off the wall and I start playing it Maybe I'm going to practice something that I'm not really good at doing sweet picking or something, right? So I know that right now I can't do that like I can't sweet pick at all because they just I've never done it So if I want to learn how to sweet pick I have to keep doing it And every time I take that guitar off the wall and spot five minutes sweet picking I might suck at it It sounds horrible. I don't want anybody to close my door in the office. I don't want anybody to hear it It's horrific. It's a terrible, you know sound, but I know that every time I do that I get a little better at sweet picking So in my mind, I think well, you know what if I do that every day for five or ten minutes a day in About a month or so, I'll be a lot better at it and maybe three months from now I will know how to sweet pick so I'll master that skill And I used to do the same thing when I was going through what you're going through and doing my exposures like well today As its own incident might suck because I might be in the car and really freaking out and very uncomfortable, but But in three months if I do this every day like I just have to do this practice and it will build on And if you did it every single day Then you you're actually working to a goal Like you'll you'll learn how to sweet pick or you'll learn how to go out to dinner with your wife and And you'll be a better bowler It'd be really good at bowling dude So I don't know what that makes any sense like look at those Look at those exposures as practice. It's just like you know what I'm gonna spend like I always use that You know, I'm gonna pick up my instrument or I'm gonna practice speaking Spanish Or whatever you're trying to learn how to do those things aren't unpleasant like our thing is but Try not to judge things. We put so much emphasis on each individual episode. I think people like us Yeah, yeah, right. So you're very focused on what's gonna happen tonight going out to dinner with your wife or going bowling But it's just one practice session. It's like one five-minute session with my stupid guitar That's why I try and think about it. I try and think like I know deep down when I sit and really think about it I know that I'm gonna get through it. I know that tomorrow morning. I will have done it And it's not gonna have affected me, right any major way, you know, I'm still gonna be me Maybe I'll feel a little bit more tired perhaps if I spend like two hours in there Tense as a piece of wood. Yeah, you know, but maybe it goes okay But at the end of the end of the day, I will get through it That's why I try and think like I know that I will and it's only like two hours out of my life So but and if you visualize that as you know, you're on a road and you're trying to get to the end of that road Maybe you'll be a little more tired for having had the experience and maybe it went well Or maybe it didn't go well, but but you've actually taken more steps. You're closer to the end of the road You know, so instead of judging that experience for what it is. It was I was I was anxious I was worried about it. I was thinking about panic all the time I you know, I didn't enjoy myself. All right. Well, that was just one practice session There's gonna be another hundred to get to the end of that road So when it's over, it's over understand that you took a few steps and then get ready to take the next few steps And try and always look at the larger picture where you're headed to as opposed to what you're doing right now You know, and to me that's always been when people ask me why should I welcome a panic attack? Well, that's why it's an opportunity to practice. I mean, I welcome a panic attack But welcome the anxiety like understand that it's going to be there. Don't expect that it won't Expected well, you know And and every time you go through it you get better at it Somebody inboxed me on Twitter the other day and asked That they're struggling with anxiety What can they do to get rid of the symptoms or something like that right and I and my reply was just stop Trying to get rid of the symptoms. That's the way to get rid of the symptoms. Yes. He's to just they're there That I always refer to what you said like the symptoms and the sensations are not anxiety They're not the disorder right and that's you know the more power that you give them because that's what I'm always focused on And that's what I will be later. I'll be like Maybe a bit of dizziness or because that's the usual thing for me and somebody commented on the last video asking about dizziness Because you've you've referred to having dizziness, you know back then So it's like how do you and when we went for breakfast the other day? And I had the dizziness as we were walking towards the actual pub So I'd got out the car it was probably only about 50 feet and each step that I was taking nearer the place I could feel myself sort of going. Yeah, but I just I slowed down and it It's probably the first time that I've done it in a long time Anyway, like usually I would stop maybe turn around go back But I just kept going exactly the same pace that I was you know I just got out the car Yeah, I could feel I could feel it and it was horrible But I just kept putting one foot in front of the other and by the time I actually got in the place I'd saw I don't know it had stopped. I'd stopped that sensation had passed And then it was on to the next one, but it was nice to just like usually I'd reach a point I'd take a step and then I'd stop and I think about it and then I'd probably make a decision to head back to the car Freak out fall out with the misses. Yeah, you know Yeah, I'm not going through the drive through but no I just kept putting one foot in front of the other no change of pace nothing Yeah, and that really worked to me and then I got through the rest of the you know, I did feel anxious and It was a bit weird, but I still got through it and I felt bloody good after it and maybe that symptom didn't go away I mean maybe it did Theoretically when you get better at it so take dizziness and it's still a symptom for me Like if I if I I know when I'm going when I'm feeling anxious because of that Like that is the anxiety symptom for me or that unsteady feeling. Yeah, it's weird So you just keep putting one foot in front of the other no faster no slower You just keep your methodically like focused in the moment. I'm just going to keep doing this exactly the way I was just doing it I'm gonna just let that dizziness be there and maybe the symptom goes away and maybe it doesn't but You know in the end what you just did there that was practice like you got better at dealing with your dizziness And if you keep doing that again and again and again, but you can only do it when you feel dizzy You can't practice that when you're not dizzy That's the point and I think like because I experienced that then like this is the this is probably the crucial stage that I'm at now Because I did I did it the other day and I felt that dizziness and I didn't like it and I don't want to feel it again. So tonight To go bowling. I know Pretty much 99% sure that I'm gonna get out the car and I'm gonna have to do it again And I think this that's the crucial part. It's like knowing but doing it anyway Yeah, that's the point. Yes knowing that it's coming and doing it anyway, and that's where the courage is Yeah, and I think and also the patience understanding that I think also a lot of people right up in that situation where when they're still focused on trying to avoid it I don't want the symptoms. I don't want the panic success is not feeling that way. It's the wrong goal I would say all the time. That's the wrong goal The goal is to like be able to panic or be dizzy or Unsteady or whatever your symptom is and not care and that's the goal right and when you get there Then suddenly that will go away. Trust me. That's the way it works Like when you don't care if you're dizzy or not anymore, you'll stop being dizzy. It's yeah Yeah, it just is so the wrong goal, but I think the point is You got better at it a little bit better in that that time than you were before and Now you'll get a little bit better at it again And what I always try and tell people is that's great You just can't wait a week or two between, you know You get the go and do something tomorrow that makes you dizzy And when you do that you'd be surprised at how fast you get good at it much faster than you think and You're right. It's probably a key spot for you right now Yeah, yeah, I feel that it's crucial. Yeah, you did it and I get to do it again That's always that you know, like that's always a thing because patience. We talked about patience, you know, courage persistence Yeah, yeah, it doesn't unfortunately. We don't fix stuff in one day Well, that's it because I mean like I'm fine with at the moment. I mean going back six months I was losing the plot when I was just driving my daughter to school or anything like that But now I'm comfortable with that. So I mean that I'm in that comfortable zone. I can drive to my dad's I can go to my dad's have a cup of tea there, you know, take him shopping sitting in the car while he's in there So I'm still not going into shops and stuff like that But so like going out for breakfast was a pretty big thing Yeah, because like even the drive-through even sitting in the queue at the drive-through is enough sometimes to Tip me over the edge Which is really weird because I could drive to the drive-through for like 20 minutes Yeah, it's sitting in the car for five minutes in a little bit that you can't get out of well cuz you can't get out Yeah, yeah, so it's that escape thing sure. It's just it's so strange So strange but the more you do it and I think let's try and turn this into a positive So we started by saying yeah, sorry, that's all right No, no, no, and it's okay. These are good conversations to have I think we started by saying that you know our concept here is that a panic attack is not always a bad thing and You could almost if you're listening right now and you're in a situation where you pretty much stopped everything You're not working you're not going to school whatever and you're your homebound possibly agoraphobic You know, this could be your full-time job Like you could actually do this stuff full-time and you I think you know this and when we first met We were both almost in that kind of same situation Where it became for me it almost became almost even though I was still running a business at the time Almost my full-time job and when you dedicate your time and your resources to it You will be surprised the more practice like any other skill the more practice you do the better you get at it Just unfortunately, this is something we have to practice. That's very unpleasant That's the only difference. There's no difference. So Like anything else the more you do it the better you get at it You just nobody wants to do it because it's not fun My practice is fun things the disheartening thing for me was that I sort of went on a real nice trajectory And I was going out for dinner and going shopping like two or three years ago Yep, I didn't I didn't think about any of this. Yeah, but then I something happened And I don't really know what it was But I just started going downhill and I think the thing for maybe we're just predisposed to If we don't manage it or if we don't stay on top of it There's always that chance that we can go back down there and it's it's I feel that it's harder this time To try and I don't know what it is whether it's a It's not really a courage thing. I would guess confidence Because I I feel like I got there once and I got back down there so easily Like I'm definitely on the way back up now. Yeah, but I it's felt harder this time I think sometimes it's because of the confidence thing might be one thing your confidence takes a hit for sure You know when that happens I think that's a real thing for almost all for me too, you know If I'm not careful, you know, if I'm not careful I could slip back into some bad habits for sure Yeah, for sure I mean even to the point where I think we mentioned this in one of our episodes Like even if I have it's but like the winter is coming now or the fall is coming anyway The season is changing So in the winter when it's cold and nasty and snowy around here Like you can easily go a weekend and not leave the house just because it's nobody wants to go out It's crappy weather and everything so You have a weekend where you're just inside Even to this day Monday will be just a little tougher for me because you know It's just like in my cocoon or weekend, you know watching football or american football or whatever, you know, and uh Monday morning could be just a little harder Yeah, even now all these years later. So I think it's something we have to be vigilant about But the key is like stop trying stop judging by success by the lack of symptoms or the lack of anxiety That's not success initially. That's the ultimate. That's how you know you won the war But each battle is not that's not how you win each battle Yeah, you know you win the battle by experiencing and getting through it anyway, so That's it. That was the yeah, that was the point we were trying to make It is this is this is why a panic attack this will be a clickbait title a panic attack is not a bad thing Yes giving away our secrets, dude Our youtube marketing secrets our extensive secrets So, you know, I don't know. Do we want to add anything to that? Do we have anything else we want to throw? I mean we could just keep rambling and just going from topic to topic here. We'll just Be like a three-week just trying to think I just know that In experience I felt That I've learned way more I've Caught panic attacks on film like doing one when I was out shopping and we've spoke about the feeling that you experience after you've gone through it so like it's just I don't know you can't explain it because it's it feels unnatural To actually go through a panic attack. Yeah the calm after the storm So that's why it's that's why it's worth going through it just to experience what that feels like if anything else It's magic It is magic and you know, it's so funny when you say the calm after the storm. I think it's it's worth Noting that So you welcome the panic. We know it's a good thing because it's it's an opportunity to practice like this is good I practiced this I got through it Sometimes even the calm afterwards is slightly anxiety producing it was for me That change in state from being like way up here to being down here because you're exhausted and You know, you're you're just feeling kind of Rung out and drained and that could be tough and I know that sometimes that feels a cycle too But that just a quick mention of that that's part of it Like when it's over and you have rode that wave and you're through you're gonna crash You know, so that calm is almost an extreme level of calm because you just Yeah, you're out of adrenaline for a little while till your body can seep up again That used to freak me out a little bit But so in theory if we Break this all down. Yeah, you cannot you can't fail The only way that you can fail is if you bail, I guess. Yeah, there's a there's a slow down for you There's a bumper sticker. Let me get because if you get that into production right now If you if you stick with it and you ride it out, then that's brilliant Or if you say if you say bring it on and it doesn't come on then that's brilliant Yes, because you're you're still you're not trying to hide from it. Yeah, you're willing to take it Yeah, exactly. That's true. That is really really solid right there You cannot well if you go out and do the work you cannot fail The only time that you fail is if you run from it Yeah, either stop go back home Don't go out to begin with or start doing everything you can to keep it from happening But even even then now, you know what I'm gonna say I'll just I'll be controversial and say that's probably a fail If you are out there and you're using your mince and you're the bottle of wine I would say so All the funny things that you threw out in your last video, which by the way, if you guys have not subscribed to billy You got 60 seconds. You have to subscribe because It's very good stuff and he's also pretty funny sometimes Yeah, if you're resorting to your safety behaviors and you're dancing around the Panic and trying to make it not happen and trying all your tricks and calling your mom and all the stuff you do Well, that might not be the best exposure to do with it the best for progress, but otherwise there's almost no way to fail So that's that's really good. It's every time you go out. It's a it's a bonus You've got to go into it willing to to face Everything or willing to just experience everything can you that's the yeah, so me me going bowling tonight I just need to go and just be prepared to either come out on foot Cheering because I won. Yeah, or in a freaking ambulance That's you know, even if you go out in an ambulance you will end the night back home anyway, right? They're gonna send you home. Nothing is going to go home young man But if I'm in an ambulance, it won't be because of panic It'll be because I dropped a bowling ball on my foot. Maybe you're most likely Yeah, or someone else's foot and they didn't like that. Yeah. Yeah And to get past it and just to you're right to experience And I think there's something somewhat addictive and this is I find and we're gonna keep going here We just we never know how to stop, but I always find this fascinating. What makes it for me I can only relate my own personal experience That feeling when you get through it and you have faced it and I didn't snap a rubber band Didn't pop any bins didn't take a pill didn't do any of that stuff and it was over in 10 minutes 12 minutes You know that feeling like It's just you know, like world beating like bring it man. You could do anything It's almost addictive for me. It is But I think it's also the same reason why some people love to go to amusement parks and ride roller coasters and jump off Adrenaline jump. Yes, like there's some people are I'm not that guy. I don't want to I don't need to jump off a cliff, you know But uh Some people are wired for that thrill or people that love speed or whatever for me it was I was very motivated by the challenge once I did it a few times like do I want to do it again I need to I want to do it again, you know, like so Maybe if you're listening, maybe you're that and you don't even know it yet Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you just let yourself get to that point where you you just feel like freaking armor played In invincible you'll want to feel that way again So Yeah, and I'll tell you the other reason why panic attacks are not a bad thing. They will teach you shit This is it. They will teach you shit. I am a far more effective Business owner leader dad like Then I was before Because it taught me shit and I was willing to learn it. So that's another reason why this is not always a bad thing you will you will grow and you will be Little taller and a little stronger and a little smarter and more patient and there's just so many lessons to be learned in this So let's embrace them Gotta get out there. Yeah, I get out there. So All right, I think we did okay 25 minutes into it. I think uh Yeah, we don't I like these podcasts. Yeah, we just there is no uh Topic I had a couple of comments one was Mentioning out of the out of body experience But again, we're going back to a symptom But somebody was saying that they were lucky they were lucky enough that they could remove themselves from the store because they used to work in a cosmetic store And take a break. But what if this was in a meeting or an interview? I guess the answer is that you weren't lucky that you were in a store and you could take a break because you didn't really learn That you it weren't gonna harm you. That's the point Right. You weren't lucky. You should you know Yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter whether that person was in the store in a meeting performing surgery You know playing in concert with Pink Floyd. It doesn't matter what they were doing. It's still what a past You just let it go Yeah, that's a good point. That's a really good point. It's a you know, what what do I do if what do I do if Yeah, we hear that question all the time. What do I do if this happens? Nothing? What do I do if it happens there? Nothing the answer is always nothing Let it happen That is the simple answer, isn't it? You should just carry on Is the simple regardless? Yeah, yeah, just keep going. Just keep doing what you're doing. So exactly You know what if you're listening right now, just listen to what Billy said not too long ago When you got dizzy and you just kept putting one foot in front of the other Figuratively speaking, that's what you do like I'm driving. I'm just gonna keep driving Yeah, I'm talking to my this person that works with me. I'm gonna keep talking to this person that works with me I'm just not gonna stop so That's that Who knows what we're gonna talk about next week? No idea How long have we gone for 27 minutes? That's a short one I'm gonna upload two of them now. I'm behind we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna definitely discuss social media in the internet Yes, and the effects that that can have on uh anxiety. So we'll save that for a feature length Feature like that could be a multiple parter, you know There's the good and the bad and we can talk about both of those things. Yeah. Yeah I like the idea, you know a little bit like We're figuring this out on the air. This is good But I mean if anybody has any Suggestions on what you want us to talk about or how to talk about it Yeah, I like kind of like the we'll pick a topic. We'll we'll chat about it for a while Maybe we'll take some some comments and stuff at the end like we just did It's a good that's a good format. It's reasonable. We've got to do the the medication as well. We've got to Yeah, we're gonna do one of that It's on point if you if you've made it 28 minutes into this and you're still listening And you have an opinion you want to hear about meds or not meds or specific meds. I guess chime in comment Yeah, yeah, I'm curious. I get it's the thing I get asked about more than any other thing By far it's got to be worth. Yeah, it's worth the discussion. Yeah, so we'll do that Especially with your your experience as well. That's the I had a different experience I won't start it getting into it now because I could talk about that for hours on end But yes, my experience was Was what shaped my opinion. So I'll talk about that one Um, I guess yeah, yeah, so that's a deal. Let us know let us know what you were Do you want us to just ramble for 40 minutes or do you want us to Stay on topic. You know what that's the point one day We maybe will even arrange maybe we'll do a live one one day too We could have people we did discuss this didn't we comment or even call We get set up a google number or something like that two numbers one for you one for me in the uk Um, I'd be happy with it. It would be fun. I'm up for that Let us know if you if you're interested in watching a live episode Yeah, well, you can actually interact call in comment as we go Yeah, yeah, it'd be fun. The other thing that would address and we're really gonna wrap it up We should keep these at 30 minutes if we can but yeah, yeah one thing that I have noticed too is I think Even this podcast can become a safety behavior. We'll talk about that one day Not for us so much but for people that are listening Like I it's great that they're listening and it's always awesome to get comments for people that feel like we're helping But I I actually know of one friend personally whom I love to death She's she's the deer And like when she has to go ahead and do her exposure She will put her headphones on and listen to my audio Right. I I've become a bit of a crutch We should talk about that too sometimes. So yeah, yeah Anyway, all right, so let's wrap it up for now as usual Anxiety united right that's the one. Yeah, or on twitter anxiety united for me that anxiety guy calm or that anxiety guy on all social media Bring it. Yes, and I guess we'll see you guys next time. Thanks for tuning in. 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