 Mate, I've been I've been a patient all be day So, you know, tell us how you're feeling. I mean, you know from a very high level I'll be honest with you because I've been up there since 10 o'clock this morning and then I've had all sorts of Things stuck in me and whatever and yeah, I'm pretty tired. He'll be honest with you But I've seen all right on my optimistic Still hoping to get any bloody operation has done quickly, but with his code, we can just screw everything up And there is and I noticed there is a fundraiser for you Paul. There's a fundraiser to help Yeah, my my mates did that. I've got to tell you that I'm really shocked actually I'm very humbled. I must be honest because when I first got ill with sepsis and that years ago 2015 My knees already came down by then, but I'm you know, my medical bills abroad was unbelievable I sort of wiped myself out and trying to get back to England than that Then I'm so lucky and then as soon as I got rid of the sepsis, I called MRSA. Which is fantastic This will get the plague there and that's my collection finished So Paul just quickly how has the pandemic sort of hurt Or slowed your operation down, right? You're supposed to see Yeah, quite a bit I think that's the reason why the guys decided they're sick of definitely not doing anything and I'll say why What they decided is to do is get this fundraiser together to see if I could go privately because you know our health care You know we here is free, but you know, I keep getting slight alterations where I'm sitting around them when it's weeping They won't bloody do anything, you know, if they can do it less me, which is the easy operation and I can get up on crutches I'm going on tour, you know, yeah, eventually. So They all got bit pissed off and I said, well, we're gonna try and get it sorted out for you. It's been fantastic And I was very shocked very humbled Very surprised actually Yeah, yeah We lost your video we lost your video Christopher We interviewed blaze a couple of weeks ago. He said he's ready to tour when you are paul Yeah, me too. We blaze all love god. I'm gonna to replace you. There's some really good fun on the road Especially out in australia with us and russia The guise of maniac Well, you have a bit of a reputation yourself To me Again, we're celebrating 10 years here on the middle voice and one of our favorite guests and always a laugh Always a good time is with paul diano. We're happy to have him here with us again today Yeah, that's the that's the aid of alcohol Yeah, that's it you might get a phone call anytime saying hey your operation's ready. You can't you can't be imbibing anything Oh, man, that'd be awesome. I'll tell you it's been six years of bloody hell to be honest with you And you know the worst of it is I can't get on an aeroplane At the moment because I want to go over and see my wife and my boy and that over in the states Right, I can't even see my oldest boy and my my granddaughter Who's like she's three now. I still haven't seen her. I've only only had quick videos from her at christmas And uh, she's just given the greatest nickname ever granddad rock Paul, you know, um I know that you've you've been going through, you know, I guess, you know, you're back and forth to the clinics Are there any musical ideas or inspirations coming through or yeah, we got we got some ideas music wise I mean Chopped from our force Uh got a track, but I haven't done the lyrics. I sort of lost the wheels to live at the moment Um, it's really difficult and then uh, my old keyboard player from battle zone and uh, Leading the crow's a tiller. He just wings a song over to me the other day. He's absolutely fantastic. He's really do me Which all suits my mood at the moment All right, I'm I'm gonna have a go on that over the weekend to see how we get on with it And uh, yeah, there are a few ideas floating around, but I I need to Know that you know, there's sort of a light at the end of the tunnel sort of thing Because I've I mean, I've got lockdown blues on everybody. I've actually been locked down in my house since november Yeah, apart from the odds about the clinic and that Uh, I don't see anyone's virtual recluses. I shaved my beard off. I'll cut my beard off the other day Which is about sort of uh, almost two foot long The lead singer of blackberry smoke or something with a beard like that I could well I could well be I did I did see I'll cut it all off So I thought I thought this you know get a little bit of normality. It's so hard to get sort of motivated I mean, I was looking at my weights for about two months. I finally picked them up yesterday All right. Oh god. You're just looking at He was like, okay. Today is gonna be the day This is it when I when I'm doing I mean it's difficult You know, I was fucking really wheelchair Do you want to do a bit clean around the house? Because I refuse to have a bloody cleaner and all that because I think this is sort of giving up So you want to see this the wheelchair olympics trying to do the vacuuming Uh, lucky there's no cable on it. But you know, I don't Win yourself with one hand And try and do the vacuuming and the other and what I do is I take it in stages now So I've got something to look forward to in the day So Capital morning Do a bit of the carb here and then go and think about doing something else later on But give it in stages just to make it a bit more exciting for me Do you have any pets to keep your company? I'm the crows Oh, yes the crows. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah, but but they're wild You know, they're free spirits and uh, I want to on that way. I don't want to be sort of like Petty fire on my eyes out with her. Um, you know, you know, I enjoy that They come down about five in the morning tap on the window. I open it up I mean We we just celebrated the 40th anniversary of Killers here on the show a couple of weeks ago great feedback from all everybody watching They think it's a it's a landmark album. Any quick thoughts going back to that recording? Um, yeah, I was terrified Is that because I'm hard to broach her Yeah, the advice of one of them and they have the sort of different direction sort of thing for me and I was like, wow, we have a Yeah, we sort of I love the first album. Some of the first album were great, but the production is absolutely crap but um, if we'd have that sort Some of the game the sort of thing. I thought that our water comes from the stress there then But you know, it's everyone's opinions and uh, yeah I was like a fish out of water there. I didn't really know what I was doing or funny. How you learn over the years Um Paul, uh, you know, um, Alan, do you have anything else you want out? No, no, go ahead. Yeah Paul, um, I want to say like, yeah Is there any timeline for like to get you to get your is it both knees or is it one knee? That's what's curious about Both Oh the right one completely bugger I've had the knee you especially built that one. Um, this is where the rest of the money went Me and my friend who's making this movie thing was supposed to be Where's we've been further from New York? We're sitting there working out the costs in the clinic After they built my new bionic knee for the right one And which is gotta go here and that's the one that keeps ulcerating and they can't do anything with it at the minute Um, so that one that comes with something like about I don't know what it's in dollars. It comes with something like about over 180 grand or something from that to be built Special bells and whistles thing But the other ones are free ones just to get it in there But I've gone to another clinic there as well and said one notes on to them This is a private clinic that does also does an APS stuff and it was um recommended to me by a friend of ours as a Harley street doctor In London, there's been a mate of one of killers funny enough and uh, yeah, he put me on this other guy I can't even pronounce his last name. He's got one of them rigged long Indian names But in the special clinic um out in Sussex So and found out the other day that it takes about 30 days or something to Like priority and that just to get the notes over there and all that So I hope you'll hear from them soon and go down for another lot of tests and More things stack up your arse and in your arm and all that and Oh joy Paul your ass is your ass is a long way from your knee though Sorry, your ass is a long way from your knee Yeah, not not nowadays All right, John John's Panayoti says hello to Paul from Greece John saying iron maidens first two albums are masterpieces Paul did a phenomenal job Um Everybody's just basically saying be well. I'm gonna put the link to the uh, the the fundraiser You know to get you on the right track because we all want to see you Man, I don't deserve none of this stuff is it's nice to know that you've got so many good friends on your side Which is a good thing, you know, I just said that I haven't actually worked for six years now Well, I can't play and I'm just with the medical bills just run up and run up and run up. I'm never gonna pay them off Oh, well might eventually See that's the worst of it. It's all it's all come up once with the both of the knees I've got really unlucky with that You know with sexy stuff. First of all, they almost killed me that but the MRSA twice I've called that. Oh, what a nightmare and now, uh, We'll be teeth are falling out because we'll do the amount of pills at the table and we gums are shrinking Oh, I'm having a really good time Paul Paul what is what are some of your favorite beers? Somebody wants to know what are your favorite some of your favorite beers Beers. Oh, I don't drink much anymore. Uh, all my old fashioned. I like the old, uh, english bitters and stuff like that and renails um Oh, no, um I drink this stuff called porter Occasionally, if I see a one which is a quite strong action. I have one's enough for me at last It lasts about three hours Quite thick but you get all different sort of uh, you get all sorts of flavors as well They've been doing like chocolate ones too. It's horrible. I'm not drinking the gas of liquid shit as far as I'm done But they do this uh, they've got a star wars one Which is uh, it's supposed to taste like um Sort of I don't know like popcorn and it doesn't make it taste like one of them german weak beers, but uh, yeah, it's not bad But uh, yeah, I'll just to relow anyway, but uh, when I do go out if I do ever go out for a drink Or if I ever will get out for a drink again, um, I'll let me start jack daniels All right, there you go. Do not drink chocolate stout with the pizza. I found that out the hard way Oh, yes I got I got a great question here kman says Tell us a little bit about the song invasion by aron maiden Oh god I was gonna steal that one. I know it was bloody hard. You know, he was hard to sing Um, it was difficult. I'll tell you because he's got to get a lot of words in there Yeah, I think I'll do that so much now. Thanks. You're good That crowd a lot of long long lyrics in there and uh, yeah, it's quite difficult Yeah, it was uh, it was good when we first started playing we just played, you know, it was um a crowd favorite I really enjoyed that. Actually, I feel like I've got to breath for it now Yeah, that's it. You got to get back in the Once you get your knee you got to get back into shape so you're able to sing again, I guess We'll hence these weights. I'll keep looking at He's just staring at the weights That's like All right Shitting all over the place. I'll have time for the weights in the two minutes Again, they're looking at me. It was like, come on. Lift me up. You fat fuck. I'll do something You know, I hope hope it ran at you one day make an appointment First time paul we interviewed you is in 2014 and then we've been kind of Reaching out to you every year and talking to you every year seeing your status update And I hope paul I really hope that soon you get back on stage You know, I hope people donate so you can get your surgery because we'd love to see you come You know come play to canada, especially Oh, I'd love to get back to canada, especially once you're old. I love it. Tim wardens, baby. Tim wardens I like it there My favorite places in canada is there in Quebec. I really love them places and uh, yeah, I do miss canada You've always you've always held the special People's hearts paul everybody we talked to They they've all got a soft spot for you and it seems like we've been talking about these knees forever Like you said, it goes back six years and we just wish you all the best and the speedy recovering That you'll get this done once and for all and then we come through the other side where we can like you said see you tour again Thanks a lot, Mike. I really appreciate that paul we're gonna do a proper interview once we get that zoom going. Okay in a few weeks Thank you so much my friend Yeah, all right, Mike. Yeah, all right. We do that and thanks a lot. I don't appreciate that Oh, we've got bed now. I got michael's I got michael's suite waiting From striper. Do you remember michael's suite? Yeah, what a fantastic band. I love that man. You want to say hi to him? Uh, oh tell michael said hello. I could I could just tell him if you could you could tell him yourself right here You ready? Yeah, okay. I'm gonna bring him on chris fur. I'm gonna get to you in a second Michael sweet. Where are you? And he's connecting This is live folks Michael sweet is connecting michael sweet. He is Michael well, he's connecting audio so Mike can hear us. Hey guys Mike, we've got what's up? Can you handle paul diano is on the line? He wants to say hi paul diano. He said whatever you hear you guys. You can't hear us Let's see here michael sweet is muted The joys of live internet Let me rejoin here. We can hear you fight. There's paul What's going on Just so you know one of those days online. We also have my son christopher. He played this huge role When we first started the show uh 10 years ago He was teaching me how to do and i'm sure your sons too, right? They teach you things and my son Tommy had to edit he taught me how to You know do the graphics of the metal voice and and just not how to cool not how to play guitar not how to play guitar He didn't teach me how to do that. Oh no And i just thought To bring okay, i think michael sweet's joining again and just a high buy and that's pretty much it We're gonna try it a second time michael michael We can hear michael. I can't hear you guys. You can't hear us. We can hear you why I do these zoom. Can you guys hear me? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Can't hear you. All right. I do these meetings We'll do paul. Have a nice night. Stay well paul. All right you guys you take care Thank you Keep safe. You too. Bye paul. Hmm. All right. Take care guys. Good night. Hey Michael sweet can hear us michael sweet. No, he's muted Now we can hear you Now we can hear. Well, we can hear michael bummer Yeah, it is a bummer I'll try something else. All right. Should tell him to call in with his phone You want to switch things around? I can't tell him You send him a message. I hear you now. Yay michael's hot Just so you know, mike I want to reorganize things. Just so you know, we just had paul diana one right before you Mike all this stuff going on We just had paul diana one. He was holding for you He wanted to say hi and he mentioned the striper was of his favorite bands ever. Oh really? Yes. He said that That's news to me. That's amazing. Wow. Yeah, that's that's really humbling to hear. That's crazy So mike this is my son christopher when we used to do interviews He was in the background holding the camera making sure things I wouldn't fault the pieces Back in the old days paul do it. Is he do it? He's got anything new going on new project. He's got Just like pause. He's having his issues but not as bad as awes, of course He's he hasn't walked in six years paul. His knees are shot He's in a wheelchair and uh and because of covet everything's delayed with surgery Poor guy feel terrible legend and he's just uh Well, you know what? He'll be in my prayers. I did not know all of the uh the things going on with him health-wise So I will I will keep him in prayer, man. How are you doing down here? What's your name, buddy? I'm chris Good to see you chris. Good to see you too. That's my son. My name is grizzly adams Ranger mike Hey, well here. We are celebrating our 10th anniversary and one of the guests that have been on the show Probably the most has this fellow right here. Mr. Michael sweet himself Hey, you know what you guys have always been so good to me and you always have me on for every release or at least it seems and Yeah, I'll park you in a while. I was starting to feel like maybe I didn't take a shower or something, you know It's the beer. It's the beer It's been three weeks since you released something Yeah, that's true So, you know, actually It's us thanking you You know, and I think that's what it comes down to I brought my son on because I want to thank him for all the Help he's given us over the years. I wanted you to come on Because you've always been accessible to us after all these years and it was always we've always had such a good time Talking and chatting and I mean you're probably one of the most interviewed person we've ever had right now I would say so. Yeah Yeah, man I it's the thing is you connect with some people and you you don't connect with others and it's just part of life But I've really connected with you guys you guys have always been good to me and always wave that Striper Michael sweet flag proudly and you know, it's just amazing to me So it's really cool and I I'm going to give you guys back something and not only just an interview But we're buddies, you know, if we I think if we were hanging out in person, we'd actually go eat a meal together and break bread together Yeah, for sure. Yeah, absolutely, which is cool First time Michael sweet was on the metal voice. I would say it was probably about 2013 2013 Wow Yeah, 2014 august 2014. Oh So that's when I oh my gosh. I was like 23 Yeah dang strange enough When me and Alan we used to sort of like sit together, right and we'd have you on audio Yes for my son who's on here. He was the one actually mining the camera Oh, I was managing all that disaster that we had going back to mr. Technical We were very low tech back then we had iPads plugged into microphones plugged into computers plugged into everything like just Wires and a huge construction lights. We needed those construction lights to light up everything They got so hot if you touch them, you'd burn your hand Now I have my I want to show everybody this this was the original metal voice t-shirt right here Now it's gone to that come a long way come along. It has come a long way That's pretty awesome That's really awesome. I was gonna say chris if I had known you re in on all those interviews, man I would have behaved a little bit more, you know You know, they always said you know, they always said after so he's 25 now. He was 15 back then right? He's kind of running our show He's the director. Yeah He always said I always liked that Michael sweet guy, you know, he didn't even know he didn't like keep in mind He's 15 right. He wasn't around when striper was released, but he was I always liked that Michael sweet character Hey, you know what chris even if they just gave you 50 bucks to go have a nice steak tonight Thank you We can't afford him anymore, Michael. He's gone on to bigger and better things. That's awesome. His rates are too high for us now Well, I Would you guys are awesome and you know, it's it's always a thrill and I'm happy for you guys, man Now what year are you celebrating? What anniversary is this? I think it's aluminum. Aluminum is aluminum 10 years It's a paper or a little bit of foil 10th anniversary now. Do you see or do you foresee? Another 20 years, maybe Uh, well, we'll start with the next year I get it. I understand It's kind of like striper and it's kind of like your solo album. It's like, let me just get through the next one I know man The thing is the way my mind works is I can't just get through this one and wait for the next one My I'm already thinking about the next one as I'm working on this one And that's just the way my brain works. I can't help it, you know So what what do you have going on right now? What do you what 14 things do you have going on? Well, because of coveted and no touring all touring shutting down I just figured you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna do a lot of projects and it taken a lot of recording and whatnot So I started taking on stuff And then I looked at the calendar and I said to myself. Oh I bleep, you know, and I was thinking wow I've got a full calendar here like and it was a little overwhelming to look at because it was literally It's one project after the other. So I finished the sunbomb album I I jumped right into an album with Nathan james and joe hoax for tommy all ridge and marco marcello Okay, yeah, so I turned in my tracks for that and co-wrote that and and arranged it And I'm now into another album. I'm doing on my own A solo album, but a different type of album not a metal album more of a You just I can't even really describe it. You just have to rock Was yeah a little more of a 70s vibe, but yet at the same time It's it's an album you can put on at 1 a.m If you want to go to bed and listen to and it'll kind of chill you out. It's really I'm fear Yeah The pan flute But cat stevens. Yeah It's definitely more acoustic based a little more 70s vibe, but me still me and it's it's something I've wanted to do for a long time And uh, I moved right from that into an album with alessandra at frontiers And we're going to do kind of like a journey-esque kind of thing And then I'm doing a new solo metal album in june And then I go from that into a sweeten lynch album And then I go right from that at the end of the year into a new striper album Oh, wow, it's nuts. It's it's when I think about it. My heart starts going boom You know, I asked the question because you did mention that joel hoekstra You were going to do something with them and I was hoping that would be your answers So I'm glad to hear that We're finally doing something of the this isn't the album We've talked about where we just want to do a whole album together him and I But still this is this is going to be a killer album. It's very white snake 1987 vibe sounding Nathan's an amazing singer Tommy and marco. I mean, you know, it's it's a crazy lineup. I mean, I feel inadequate, you know, here I go Joe Schmo Playing with these legends, you know, and it's like I'm kind of figure out where to fit in, you know I mean, I've been a fan of a glorious. It's the first album. I've been listening to their fourth album now and this guy's got a set of pipes I don't want to take anything away from you, Michael. We all know what you're capable of but Nathan's killer and he's got that old school. You know, it reminds me of coverdale Got that vibe going on. So it's perfect for this, you know, absolutely. Good to hear. Good to hear Um, I just what else is there? I guess you kind of mentioned everything. Mike, you know, it's uh It's such a pleasure always to talk to you and uh, you know, we look forward to Jumping on again and doing another interview and talking about your next project So what's the next next next one? Like is that the next project? The one coming out next is sunbaugh Okay, and that's myself and tracy guns. Oh, okay. Yeah, we remember that. Yeah, and it's like if if uh LA guns meets striper meets black Sabbath meets Whatever, I mean, it's it's darker for me musically a little more of a darker vibe. I'm seeing a little different stylistically Uh, it's really cool. It's called sunbomb and I think people it's going to make a little noise people people will dig it How well do you know tracy back in the day? Did you know him very well or No, I first time I met tracy, believe it or not in person was just a few years ago. Wow And the way we met is our guitar tech John stensland is tracy's guitar tech So they invited us out to show lisa and I we drove out we hung out Really, obviously, I know I've known of tracy my whole life and you know LA guns Of course, but first time we've ever worked together and done something together and it's exciting man I I just like being able to do what I do and having all these opportunities before I take my last breath I figure, you know, this is what I'm here on earth to do man. I'm going to do it as much as I can Yeah, good good outlook. Yeah All right. I'm going to bring uh Mike, thank you so much. I'm just we're rolling out the guests It is such a pleasure. I go. I hope mike jumps on today. Oh michael sweet jumps on today I was a must we had to have you on this show to celebrate our 10th anniversary It was a no-brainer at michael sweet on with this mike again. I'm going to bring on pat I'm going to introduce you to pat. He's the CEO of the metal hollow fame Let's get striper in there Pat pat in there. He's connecting to audio. Well, we'll have better luck seems to be the case for His pat is on Pat pat. I want to introduce you to michael sweet. Michael sweet. This is pat Just you know, although how are you man? And pat my son christopher who I think you met And I think you met in montreal. Did you meet christopher? Did you meet pat? I think I might have it's a long time ago. It's fuzzy. Yeah. Yeah, and I watch people on your show And then I don't remember who I Potential nominee pat is here with us. Mr. Michael sweet. So just you know, we're not going to push anything We're just coughing a little bit striper The only hollow fame that matters and the pat's the curator. So that's right. I'll tell you what it's if uh, you know credentials Count in terms of longevity that would that would earn us the right right there We've been out for a while, you know, we're we're we're approaching our 40 year anniversary. Wow crazy millions of albums sold millions The number one metal the most I guess You're the only metal album christian slash metal album to sell more than a million copies, right? Yeah, that's what I've heard. I I mean You hear things like that and you kind of take them with the Graying assault and you know, it sounds great and that's it's humbling if that's true. That's really cool You must be a bajillionaire A bajillion That's the big lie man I have a nice house and a nice car and you know, I I can pay the bills But I mean, I'm not a good good. I think they say my brother's worth like 10 million or something on google I always laugh at that one. That's worth like 50 cents on google All right, mike I just want to say something about michael sweet. Um, I remember I think when my dad said it's true I used to always think you're like I used to really like you because Back in the early days of the metal voice I saw that um my dad and alan they struggled to be taken seriously By um by certain people because back then youtube was this weird We we forget but 10 years ago youtube was not very serious and now it's getting closer to that Yeah, and you instantly just took them serious and treated them like just anybody else and I think that's what made me really like you back then it was it was you you gave them some serious recognition and Now things are so different. But back then that was a really nice gesture. You know, and I think it really helped the metal voice take off Well, it's the least I could do and like I kind of touched on earlier They've given me that in return. You know what I mean? They they respect me And respect the band and there's a mutual respect, you know, and that goes a long way That's pretty awesome. It's hard to find in today's world You know, you find it on occasion, but you know, I I love these guys, man So anything I can do ever all you guys have to do is ask Carl, what's that? What's that that song? That's a call I just call right saying Just pick up work call me We're always always anxious to hear what you got going on it because it's always so different So, uh, we can't wait to hear the next one. Like we said, we've got to have you on and we're definitely gonna Review it. So thanks guys. You rock pat. It's a pleasure to meet you, buddy Yes, you two actually have been trying to get in touch with you. So we will chat. Okay Yeah, anytime man anytime For sure. That's awesome. Thank you. You guys have an awesome night I'm gonna go eat some pasta with my wife and maybe even have a you know, uh, a non-alcoholic bourbon Oh, wow. We got to try that So nice to meet you Michael. Take care, buddy. Be safe. Take care. Thanks. Thanks, Michael All right So I want to actually as we're going through this alan and pat I'm just gonna talk to you in a second. I just want to recognize people as we're going through this, right? So I think I got to recognize a few major people here like my wife, first of all After 10 years and pat knows this Where she's putting up with me Linda we're going to california and christopher knows this linda. We're here linda. We're going there We're going to nam. We're going here Mrs metal voice anywhere. I go and she's always pleasant about it. She's pat. You know that we went to heavy munch y'all She's pleasant. She's accommodating. She's always there to help. So The merch lady the merch And I appreciate her putting up with my nonsense too. So yeah, she's awesome, jimmy. You're very lucky, brother Yes, so I really have to give out a shout out to christopher's mother and my wife linda for uh For all these years, you know anytime when allen can't make it and christopher can't make it Who's gonna go do the camera work? linda's gonna go do the camera work She's gonna do the merch table She's just gonna do everything and she always does it with a smile and she's always and she puts up with you Which is a sainthood right there. So oh linda allen's coming up. We're gonna shoot a show Clean house So pat I remember that So pat tell us you know tell us what's going on in the metal hall of fame this year Well before we get to any of that jimmy congratulations my brother I am so proud of you and so happy for you and the great work that you've done and thank you for not just being a friend but a brother and having me You know be a part of what you do and being a very crucial part of the metal hall of fame I can't thank you enough. Thank you so much So tell us what's going on in the metal hall of fame I am so proud of you brother. By the way, this is the old shirt And that's nice. So then and that's oh, yeah, this is a legendary shirt. By the way, that's j sharp Who I introduced to you for the metal hall of fame logo. That's j sharp I don't even want to go into the whole story about j j is a brilliant graphic designer works in a great company And he designed him but he went for when he as soon as he saw this he goes jimmy I'm going to design you a logo that's going to like knock your socks off and there it is allen's wearing it And boy oh boy j sharp. Thank you so much and for all the web support that you've done over the years Much appreciated another thank you and shout out and a stiff rod shout out later, but pat go ahead Yeah, so, you know, we're hanging in there and I just think everybody else is here crazy year, you know Yeah, but we're going to be doing a lot of exciting things and the the gala will continue one way or another that's for sure very very soon And uh full speed ahead All right, so it's going to be we you have said I know you're not going to give away all the secrets It's going to be online, right? Well, we're going to do a lot of things this year in in person too But as far as the galley are probably online and uh, you know, we already said to mark weiss Is going to be one of the inductees and uh, you know, that's going to be fantastic and We're really looking forward to that, but this year is going to be just killer So allen mark weiss So like the guy who brought us all the pictures of our youth the wise guy the wise guy Right, I guess uh hibberton and ross helfin. I think they cornered the market back in the day. So Yeah, but it sure did. Yeah, so We're expecting a lot of some great inductions there pat I'm trying to think who else stiff rod one of allen's read Back in the day. Good old stiff rod used to carry the lights the construction lights Remember allen. Oh, yeah early on interviews And you know, like it's it's all the people who help us in the background over the years and you're of course You're one of them pat like, you know, you're just helping us from another angle But our friends who came along and they and they sort of Have assisted where we needed help right allen. Yeah, but again, I think she hats off to you and pat I mean for me the 10 years one of the highlights of the show Was when you guys were able to get lee cursed like those gold albums I mean the two of you worked hard on that and I it was so touching to see that I know that he was extremely appreciative And I I don't know why it took so long, but you guys made it happen So that for me that was a personal highlight of the show and I want to give you a hats off to both of you I kind of had the ball and I threw at the pat and pat just slammed it. He slammed it. He gave me we took care of a brother We ran dead and and and that would have never happened, you know with With with myself Sharon and Ozzy, you know doing that for lee But that never would have happened without you jimmy. So you know what? Well, I mean again I was just doing the interview. I uncovered something And then you took that and you allen just so you know Like what most people and I've said this a million times people don't know what pat was doing in the background He was hustling Or you jimmy. Well, no, but you did brother was hustling. He was hustling with Sharon and Ozzy. He was hustling So so lee curse like writes a letter to Ozzy thinking that if he just sends it to him He'll get his records. No never. It was pat on the horn Working and saying you got to do it. You got to do it. The guy is he's got cancer He's dying. You got to do it. And you know what they listened to him That was you know, you just took it to another level and and and that was If the metal Hall of Fame stands for anything, that's what it stands for, you know And I totally agree and because of that other institutions have honored lee I mean, it was just a domino effect and and and and rightfully so, right? And rightfully absolutely needed that right Yep, absolutely. And you know our dear friend lee And his wife suit too, you know and tayla who is shooting a documentary, you know on that and you know, uh, tayla goodman so you know poor lee but he was You know such an inspiration to me both as a drummer and just and as a friend of I got to know him later on in life and You know bob daisley too, but um, but especially lee and uh, you know, I was just it was just such an honor For me forget about me the metal Hall of Fame. It was all about lee and For Sharon and Ozzy for the three of us to finally come together because it was a little difficult at first. I got to say To be able to do that for him Man that and and I followed that for 39 years like we like the whole world did Right going back and forth and why I couldn't get his platinum albums and why and the lawsuits and You know, so and I also have to and I want to say that and I said this to alan before People don't realize he was suing Sharon and Ozzy for years For them to just hand over those those gold album of the platinum albums, you know, it's not an easy thing Imagine somebody suing you for years on end and then you say well, can you do me a favor? Well, there was a lot more behind that as well for for them and I understand that but I'm also extremely grateful to Sharon and Ozzy for Allowing us to do that helping us with that for sure. Definitely. Definitely But so many wonderful things jimmy have happened with the metal Hall of Fame Because of you so That's awesome. Thank you. Yeah giving giving guys I You know, I hope all four of us can be there, you know in person And you know and enjoy the wonderful institution that the metal Hall of Fame is And you know, just meet all our friends and artists from all around the world. I think it's I tell you I tell Alan this every year. It's one of my highlights of the year, you know Mine too. Yeah, I bet. Yeah Yeah, but that's a great job great job And the only the only Hall of Fame that matters that we got Pat himself on the show tonight Yeah, yes And thank you so much for all the hard work that you guys have done because you know, when you guys started this right the metal voice I mean, I I can only imagine Of of the hard work that both of you put in and what you had to do and And how it affected your lives your families, right and and and everything in between so It's not an easy task. So hats off to Both of you for for bringing the world such a great thing Congratulations Christopher What was youtube like 10 years ago? Oh my god, I remember it was it was not what it is now, you know, now you go on youtube and if you want to find You know high quality Anything, you know high quality movie reviews high quality music reviews high quality tv shows made just for youtube You could find it back then you went on and it was just people You know under crappy little cameras screaming and swearing and A lot of the time it was it was it was it was a madhouse said it was also like this a lot of creativity too and And the metal voice was just this show and my dad and Alan were there with the best green screen technology Doesn't look as good today, but back then it looked pretty decent And uh, you can hear the washing machine going in the background You're the washing machine the lights made their faces look red like tomatoes sometimes Um, I remember when they they got their first interview They were so excited. They were like flying off their feet Um, it was Saxon bill bill buffered. Is that a Biff yeah, Biff buffered there we go. It was Saxon and they were so excited. They're like Biff. We're gonna be Biff Wow, jimmy was a little I don't think jimmy was able to sit down for a week actually Both of you were so excited. You're like we get to because back then they didn't cross the the line yet Where they are just they're just people talking about about music and now they are getting to meet their heroes And they couldn't believe it they couldn't believe that anyone would want to I just want to explain you had tv and then you had the internet. We were in the middle We were in the middle of that transition, right? When everything went from tv to like, you know that metal show right with Eddie trunk that got canceled. There was nothing We were sort of in that spot There was no and I told Alan this I go there's no consistent and the word is consistent Metal show going on back then 10 years ago YouTube was just like Christopher said it was people just doing jumping off buildings doing wacky stuff And my son's actually had a show before me and Alan did the show And that's kind of like was the inspiration of it all my wife actually said, you know, you and Alan talk a lot about music You should do a show about it That's how it started And look where you are now But just to go back to what Christopher was saying When we started the show, it was more or less to take his generation Introducing to the great music we grew up with in the 80s. I had my friend pro and his son Peter Anthony We had every used record store, you know here in montreal one day and I said you need this album He needs this album without I'll buy you this one. You have to have this one And we we that was the that was how we started the show It was just more or less just to reviewing the old album But like Christopher said then we started getting into interviews and that just you know Just became a lot of fun meeting a lot of your boyhood heroes. So yeah, how long did it take you guys Alan to Really realize That you're off to a start I think what you know what I think yet yesterday I think when I was I went time I was I was I was taking a walk as I take a walk every day There's a guy at a gas station. He ran. He was filling up his car with gas He stopped and he ran all the way across this tree to say hi to me Then I go wait a second something's going on here I I think it was to answer Pat seriously it was when we We interviewed mark stirracchi from crocus or crappist as d snider wrote in his book and we had both just read d snider's Autobiography and and we were happening doing mark stirracchi and it was a great interview and and we brought that up so He just explained his side of story But then then it kind of snowballed and everybody picked up on this and then they ran back and talked to d And and it kind of snowballed. They said, oh my gosh people are watching this show, you know It was a little surprising at that point pat. I'm gonna let you go. We'll talk tomorrow Thank you so much and everything that you do pat You're the metal Hall of Fame is a force to be reckoned with Well, jimmy, thank you both guys. Thank you so much happy anniversary couldn't do it without you guys And thank you and love you guys all the best all the best in 2021 anxious to hear what those nominees are gonna be Yeah, we're getting there so brother. So here we go jiles lavery. So jiles. I don't know if you ever met my son christopher But it's my son christopher who's sort of like the backbone in the early days Now, yeah, now here. This is i'm gonna set this up allen for you In 2013 I get this email from this guy named jiles lavery. He goes mate I don't know what he wrote. He goes. I'm in this band called dragons claw And blaze bailey, you know sang on one of our songs and it's sort of intrigued me and me and allen What happened to be doing a show about new bands? So you go, let's let's talk about dragons claw and we love the album And then from there just sort of you know, organically You you you actually appeared on our show actually November 2013 and you did fates warning darkness in a different light album review Thank you jiles. I just want to say thank you for everything and that's what it's about thanking you not thanking us Well, thank you. I send I I Gratefully accept your uh Good vibes and I send them straight back to your brother. It's been a long it's been a long road And we've been there for each other Along the way. I think it was actually 2011 or 2012 I sent you the album and I think we kind of went bounce back and forth a little bit, but then you know as the show started taking off and getting a little bit more traction Um, then you invited me on for the fates warning thing And I just moved to Germany at that point actually and I just seen fates warning the night before we did the review so Yeah, kind of cool. That was really cool. That was the beginning and Let's talk about you like what you've been doing the last 10 years You know, you started out we known you as a singer from dragon's claw and now you're you're managing you're doing all these other things You're wearing so many hats All kinds of stuff. I mean it's just one thing just keeps leading to another And it's weird because just when you You know, I mean who knows what the future is especially with the pandemic and You know, I always I always stay realistic about it. I always kind of have this. Hey one day I'm gonna have to get a real job, but One thing just kept leading to another Leading to another and just when just when you think something's kind of winding down and you go, okay. Well, give that another year all of a sudden another thing opens up and another pathway opens up and you just you know It's it's been weird. I mean it's it's been it's been truly bizarre and Incredibly gratifying at times, you know, you know and remember remember when you did the riot you asked me Jimmy, can you do what can you edit this riot video riot 5 video? It was actually my son Christopher who edited That yeah, he did an awesome Awesome job. Absolutely. I mean we get so much on that I I am gonna go but I Say hi Giles and uh Hey Christopher just before you go Anybody wants to know I'm reading the comments here. Who are some of your favorite bands you're listening to? Oh, man, uh, I I'm not listening to a lot of music these days. Unfortunately, you know I'm it's so busy. I moved to texas. I'm uh I I just got married Yeah, but I want to get back into music soon. So, uh, maybe I'm gonna have to check out the metal voice and get some recommendation Nice blood I used to love iron maiden And a lot of the the basic bands, you know, I never really got too Too into the specifics. I listened to a lot of bands though. I checked them out because of the show My dad would say we're doing this interview and I check out the band and So so I have a good a good grasp on on metal. But uh, but these days I'm not listening to Yeah, well, you know what I you know me and chris fur when he was young we went to rush together That's what and I know that you own your daughter I love rush. Yeah with gala to rush. So we kind of bring them up the right way All right, chris fur chris. Thanks for dropping in chris. Thanks chris. All right. So job. Bye and bye Talk tomorrow Jals Another before we bring on pop off another huge huge thing on the metal voice was the riot documentary I mean you call me up and you go jimmy Let's just do a video diary Just a video diary All right, let's do it and Jimmy jimmy, let's add this jimmy jimmy. Let's add that let's add this person like that. It's like a five-part documentary Tell me a little bit. Well, I mean, I always I always it's fine. I got a little bit of background on this I always was a major riot fan You know and all through the you know, you know since the thunder steals ride jumped on But you know all through the 90s, you know a lot of their records were coming out only in japan And very few people knew about him. It wasn't like today where they're kind of that buzz band And you know the one of the larger underground bands They were a little bad in the 90s and Really, unless you were kind of a diehard or if you were maybe if you were, you know A japanese metal fan where they had a much higher profile or you know Certain pockets of you know fan bases in europe, but it was pretty small in the 90s It was small for some of the big bands, you know the 90s even bands like except were struggling I always said to myself Damn, I mean i'm a nobody i'm a kid from new zealand, but if anything ever happens to me In the music business one of the first things i i would do if i ever had was in a position to help a band It would be riot and you know what that came to pass and that's just another example of those wow You know cosmic kind of things we did that documentary and i i truly believe that that contributed to a lot of um kind of you know Upward momentum that they were already on the upswing You know thanks to the great work that they've been doing with you know Unleash the fire he started with a more sold kind of the comeback started about then But i really think that documentary had a lot to do with Kind of informing people including them in on the great history and some of the great talented people that have been in and out of the band And you know even some people in the band weren't too sure of us is the right time to be doing a documentary If we do one should we do it like the anvil thing or should we be Waiting for a bigger budget thing and i kept saying no you'll be waiting till doomsday. We're going to do this now and you can always Make that move up to another level and do another one later, but this was a real guerrilla style It was me filming stuff with iphone and jimmy coming to gigs and setting up camera on tripod and You know a lot of the original video diary stuff we decided i mean it just wasn't suitable It was kind of goofy band on the road stuff and Fart jokes and gags and we kind of thought we don't really want to tell the story That way with you know a bunch of horse and around i mean that could come later We first of all wanted to tell the story in a real respectful Way and we did and I still get feedback to this day people got wow that that thing you your jimmy did was amazing during this pandemic This video it's it's like people are trying to watch content during this pandemic They're they're looking for content and that was a big one like i just see the comments What what i take away from that whole experience is is uh, you know Getting it lu lu came into the scene at that time and then jim and lu became great great friends and unfortunately as we all know He passed away due to covet so but You know, what a great guy to meet and it would never happen if it wasn't for this documentary, right? And then everything you know, he was just about to launch a whole riot act Second career so but allen allen it was jiles who actually pushed me He was i'll be honest. I mean i'm an honest guy jiles Persuaded me i wasn't even you were allen you were a bigger riot fan than i was back in there And i'm a huge riot fan, but But thanks jiles some things make sense You know some things make sense and some things don't i've come to jimmy with a couple of things that he's kind of said Well, you know what i just can't give my attention to that right now and or this doesn't really make sense right now Maybe later But you know so you yeah, it's not like you know i i come to jimmy with a bunch of at least once a week i've got some idea you know and it's not always and it's not always 30 second bitch 30 second bitch It's not always the right idea for the right moment, but this riot thing just fell into place you know and on on on the last note Jiles i want to say thank you for introducing me to david reese You know who another shout out i want to shout out to all the people david reese given us such great commentary over the years He's so funny What a great person and what a great career i know allen loves his last album Yeah, you know cacophony of souls big plug to david reese first commentary in his reviews Jiles we're gonna let you go. I know it's late there jimmy bring it on pop. Okay, man Thanks for having me. Yes Thanks for the last 10 years and uh here's to the next 20, huh? Yeah, thanks jiles Okay, man. Take care. Take care guys. Bye. Bye The the shakespeare of metal biographies himself. Can you hear me? Okay? Look at you with your microphone. I remember when we first started you were taping the window so the sun wouldn't come in Yeah, yeah, yeah, you hear me. Okay. Everything good. Yeah, we can hear you fine. Okay. Excellent. Excellent. Yeah Thanks for having me on guys. This is very cool and congratulations on this 10 year anniversary. Wow Wicked time lubeye martin popoff did a show on the metal voice was 24 october 24 2014 hair mail and once I told allen allen they did a show with popoff he goes jimmy let's do some more shows and then we started doing shows with martin and uh Always a great time about about they got about 15 of your books downstairs and I just enjoy reading each one of them Thank you very much. Yeah, so we need to know what what are you working on now? What's going on? Oh god, I mean monday. I get a sweet book rebel rouser a sweet user manual I've got this crazy crazy imaginos related book, which is very very weird. It's barely even a music book We got the your eye heap coffee table book coming And then the last of the the rush trilogy the anthem rush in the 90s and in the end So lots of stuff coming down the pipes Yeah, just just working away on things doing a lot of video stuff too. Just like just like you guys inspired by you guys Man, what is a 570 shows or something? You know what martin? I tried to add it up. It's very difficult because it's just the way There's no total in there 700 shows wow about Yeah, 3.5 million hits interviews reviews Debates reports documentaries and whatever else in the middle. Wow. Yeah fundraisers fundraisers That we'll get So good, man. I mean the documentary stuff you guys are getting into and I know you guys do a lot of editing So you you know, you're good on that front as well and the interviewing style You guys have done with these guys over the years and that's why these guys are all friends of yours now, right? You guys have gained so many of these rock stars as buddies now Because you're just you just you just know how to engage them in conversation. It's it's beautiful Yeah, it's a good thing. You know, it's it's interesting how and I think michael suite said this Some artists you just connect. It's just like people in life some people you connect with and other people you don't It could be in business or in work or and I know you've interviewed like everybody, right? Yeah, you know, you know what we're saying, right? Yeah Yeah, and yeah, like I say you've done a great job And then what you also do is you keep up with them and keep having them back So that relationship just grows and grows and you learn about these guys's catalog through you guys who obviously you totally know your stuff But uh, yeah, I appreciate having been on for all these. Yeah I mean some of them were kind of themed to the books but then some of them we we came up with Some of the early versions of the top albums by whoever and that right a bunch of those, right? Yeah, forget that. Yeah, it's been fun. But and you know And some some of the highlights even recently are highlights like the whole bob coolick situation, right? The whole alcatraz situation with jiles. I mean that was a classic interview you guys did with that was really good to sort that whole thing out, right? Yeah, it's it's it's kind of like I mean I don't want to say to that. I just it's I don't want to I don't want to stick my feet in, you know, hot water there Yeah, jimmy always trends lightly. Yeah, but he had to go back to martin's point I mean one of the highlights for me and that's where I've taken away from 10 years You're trying to think back on different different shows and stuff was having you know We had barbeque supper with lips and robbo from anvil, you know You're sitting there and he's chewing on his wings and they Got the ribs and the nachos happening and it's like man when I was back in 83 listening metal on metal I never thought this was gonna happen. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah But you know what martin you're a professional too. You've done this for years me and alan were like There's so many times when those anvil situations happen. You're just sitting there and you're just Breaking bread with the guys that you grew up with and you just can't believe it, right? Yeah Well, it's fun when you when you came to toronto for the riot thing too, right? And that was really cool. All of us hanging out jiles was there, right? I was there too, right and frank was there and yeah frank puth van was there and I can't remember who else was there Love frank. Frank's awesome, man. Yeah. Yeah, such a cool, dude Also, I want to give out a shout out to let's see. I'm trying to remember or lando. You never met or lando Orlando, mike christian these guys. I know mihi came with you alan to yeah, mihi. Yeah He came or lando who you've never met martin or lando He's always there every time I need a camera man He's always there to lend a hand and this whole romanian squad You don't know this little romanian metalhead squad They go out and help alan then they come and help me, you know, we all can't be there at that precise moment We work. We have responsibilities But yeah, all these guys come out and help us and martin you've always been you know, I love about you martin What's that you never You always try to be helpful You always are helpful to everyone. You know when I send out these terrible written press releases you go jimmy You need to write these a little more yeah, be attached to what you're doing Jimmy spelling is not his fourth thing. Yeah. Yeah You know one one other thing I got to mention is I think you guys have been have been like pioneering in the pushing of these rock stars to get on the video train and do the video interviews, right? I mean this this was new technology a while ago I mean obviously blew up with zoom but all the skype stuff along the way and that You know, I mean some some of these early proper video interviews is is you guys pushing people to do that, right? You know, I'm gonna tell you this so me and alan we had this big tv And my son christopher who was on just before I used to plug in those wires I go alan don't move whatever you do don't move there's wires going through the whole house through the whole basement Skype was brand new nobody was doing videos via skype Yeah, so I kind of figured okay cnn has these big tv's with people in the back of them Let's do that for metal And I and I challenge anybody to go on the internet back to 2013 To see those types of interviews where we're interacting visually with the uh, okay, it doesn't look great today It doesn't look it doesn't look like it looks like right now doesn't matter doesn't matter, right? It's it's you see it. You're seeing their face. You're seeing them talk. That's all that matters, right? All right, mario It's been a pleasure. Uh, i'm gonna bring in steve grimmett if you want to say, okay, very cool Yeah, I'll stick around for a minute steve oh there steve Wicked how you doing steve? He's connecting to audio. There we go steve. Oh How are you? Hey, all right steve We got martin popoff Yes How are you? I'm doing okay. I'm uh, I'm gonna We we have jimmy's got this whole thing Worked out like an art like uh like a war maneuver So i'm gonna log off and and listen into you guys. So I just wanted to say how do you like how do you like the How do you like the the sort of the setup? Yeah, it's really cool Thank you for all the great music over the years. It's unbelievable It's uh, it's it's been just a pleasure listening to all your stuff over the years. It's wicked Thank you martin. Yeah, and frank pot may frank pot may says hi. He's on he's online. Oh, yeah, cool. All right So i'm gonna leave now. Thanks martin. First time i met frank pot van was at zia bailey Yeah, steve Yes, you know frank pot van too, right frank is everywhere. Yes Yeah, oh yeah Yeah Yeah Great to have steve on steve. Uh, you're a friend of the show like yes Going back man going back allen 2013 2014. I don't even remember how long Yeah, it's something like that. Yeah, yeah, just just before well with the uh, the First release there when it came back and toured north america. Um, yeah Yeah, that was uh, yeah, uh 2014 was the first one. We did a one-off show In chicago and then the following year we came back 2015. Yeah, we would have been doing the tour Actually steve. I don't know if you remember this or not Back in 2014. We did an interview with you But the whole interview came out horrible. Like it was a oh, yes the skype connection was terrible. Oh, yeah. Yeah And it just didn't work. That's right. Yeah, but but we redid it. We redid it. We redid it. Yeah We met up with you in 2015 in montreal at the catacombs. Yeah at the catacombs And then afterwards you were stuck in ecuador Lost your leg your right leg horrific and milley Was actually bringing us the live feed from your hospital. Yeah, yes unbelievable 30 minutes she said something like she only has 30 minutes of live a day. Yeah, that's all I had Was 30 minutes a day And no other entertainment at all while I was laying in bed. There was no tv I couldn't speak Spanish and and so that was a Complete shit show really but I had half an hour's internet a day So it's like right. What do I do with this? Okay, so you're done. Yeah, exactly. All right log on and right How do I get about driving and then how do I get about prosthetics? How the hell do I get back up on stage to carry on doing what I do, you know, because I I'm still not ready to give in I'm biting at the bit to be fair at the moment obviously, but we can't do anything but we're You know that was That took up around 20 minutes of my internet per day because I was just downloading stuff And then the other 10 minutes I would call my family and talk to them, you know, so And I did that every day. So the family were on a rotation And until Millie got out here got out there And then uh, yeah, it was uh It was all a bit of a nightmare really and that that was uh, january 2017 yeah, so it was um It was uh four years ago in january. Yeah And that was amazing because lily Millie was able to bring us you were in your hospital bed We were able to do an interview trying to get awareness out to get you back home and and help you out So and then you're just your determination. I remember like yesterday. I'm getting back on stage I will be back on stage. Which is what you ended up doing Yeah, I did six months after I lost my leg. I was back on stage. I uh That was in germany. I think it was a bang your head festival. I think yeah, yeah, and uh I remember playing and the crowd would go nuts. They would just it was it was fantastic and then See you in hell, which was our last song I decided to go down because they were the stage was split Uh a lower level and I called over to millie. She was with the sun. It's let help me down the stairs I want to go out and see the crowd, you know go right out into the crowd when I did that And the crowd were getting louder and louder and louder as I was getting up towards the front and By the time I got there they were just going nuts And to to be fair bought a real tear to my eye, you know, we've made it all well worth it You know the fight and everything So, yeah, I remember calling up Alan Allen. We got to get him back home. We've got to get him back home We've got to do something exactly I don't I don't got home. But I I think I would have Had to have borrowed money because you you know the story my Insurance people said oh no, you're doing the wrong job. You know, you should be behind the desk And I said it doesn't say that in the small print Yeah, but it kind of it kind of did but um Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna do I'm gonna do a shout out here. Uh, Kenny. Yeah, Kenny Kessel who you've met in New York Yes, Kenny. Good old Kenny. And you know, I'm trying to shout out to everybody as we're going along He's our man in the street in New York. He's our correspondent in New York And I know a lot of love to you, Steve, you know, he just adores you and you know, he's out there I know he was helping you when the band was there And yeah, you know shout out to Kenny for every and I was just telling me the other day man Kenny did a great interview with uh, uh, what's the name? Richie scarlet Richie scarlet and I go Kenny. He's a natural. He's a great interviewer and I'm happy to have him Yeah, and he's a great guy. He's a really good guy. Nice guy. I mean the last time we were out there Um, he took me to a friend of his jay loud. I don't know if you know j Yeah, and they took me to his house and it was my birthday and they they made me a grim reaper cake It was awesome. It was absolutely awesome. And I still think there was like a uh, uh, a stand-up Reaper and gravestones and everything in it. I've got those still and bought them home with me It was great Looking back on 10 years to get another highlight was the way the metal community came together just to try to get you back home Get you back on your feet and uh, and that was great to see everybody come together like that. Yeah, it was it was fantastic really When I was in the hospital, you know, I'd get like at least 10 to 15 people come and visit me in the hospital Which is fans, you know, they would walk in and come and say hello and you know And then start the stuff with taking pictures of me while I was in bed But uh, no, that was that was absolutely fantastic. Um, and They I needed blood I had to have uh, uh, small blood transfusion and they put it out on the local radio the rock radio show through the british embassy you were helping me out at the time and uh Uh 60 people donated blood Wow Wow, so so I've got I've got I've got equidorean blood in me as well So it's like I I am a true blood brother of this, you know, it's great That's fantastic. And uh, yeah, it was that's just the sort of the mentality of of People that listen and people that love rock, you know, they they are a massive massive family And I and I can't thank the guys enough, you know, I can't thank my fans enough It's it's that's why I do what I do, you know, because I love it Come like a friend to us over these years and it's a pleasure, you know An excitement every time you release something new. I know me and Alan We're we're like grim reaper fans before we even knew who you were. I mean here Yeah Now when it first came out based on the album cover Those those yeah, and they go says a lot of those three albums really really had an effect on people how their class Classic albums as they like you said, I know I know it's it's amazing. You know, I still get messages Uh from younger fans More less these days Yeah No, we still get those two But it's more younger younger fans because they're they're learning about all this stuff You know, and then they get a hold of an album. It's like, oh, yeah, this is fantastic. But The the thing that I get a lot of is Man, if it wasn't for this song if it wasn't for this song, I'd be dead now, you know, it saved my life That's amazing. And they they truly mean that, you know They they saw something or heard something in the song or lyrics And they it just put them on the right path, you know, and that Is my job's done, you know The show must go on the absolutely And before we let you go steve I just want to give a shout out to my two french my two favorite french metalhead guy Stephane Giroux who's always given me great advice over the years and nicola ubre Who's uh, you know, he's a he's a he's a french from france friend Who lives in detroit and he's done a couple reports He's so anxious because jimmy. I want to do a report on blaze jimmy. I want to do a report Go right ahead. I don't have to do anything Yeah, cool, carry on But before I go, I just I just want to tell you something, you know, because I've done I don't know if you've seen on the internet a lot of lockdown songs Uh with my friend steve stein, but One thing I am involved with is a is a an organization called mea fest um Yes, you know about mea fest. Okay a little bit. Okay. Well, basically it was it was started by brian and claire Mia Who had a stillborn child? And they've gone on for a number of years uh Dedicating everything to molly Who was the they're stillborn? Uh, and just lately what we've done or what I've just been involved in it I'll just put my name in a track to it, but uh, a guy called danie hines from weapon uk Has put together a 19 track digital album and it's up for download at the moment on mea fest.org It's 10 pounds whatever that converts to I don't know And then you can download the whole thing, but it's all british New wave of british heavy metal bands. Wow And all the proceeds go to a charity called sands which totally deal with Stillborn parents and all that sort of thing and uh, we're looking to get A hundred sales is all we want. We're sort of halfway there, but if you guys could dig in and and uh And see what you can do for for mea fest.org Thank you very much. And also you sang on chris's homes is Trax released. Yeah, which we love chris homes. He's on the show Yeah, and and and just in 10 seconds any new music you're working on grim reaper Uh, yes, I have been but I've I've been Fairly busy with other things actually because because I'm not earning any money Not touring. I've been doing a lot of songs for people Uh And getting paid for it, which is quite quite nice actually. Yeah, it's always good. Yeah So I've done quite a few of those and and some of them are coming out Uh, some of them are out and you just got to type my name in Into any search engine it'll all come up But the ones that I've been doing with steve stein and nick bokot to be fair I've really enjoyed those So yeah, all good. So steve anyways, we're gonna have another interview interview with you And uh, we'll get into some, you know, whatever new stuff you're you're working on. We always do Yeah, yeah, absolutely I just want to congratulate you on 10 years. Keep up the good work guys. 10 or years. I'll be 62 Really? You're nearly caught up with me then All right, say hi to milley. Say hi to milley. Yes, I will. Take care guys. Love you. Thank you. Bye Just some of the comments I've been reading as well is uh, yeah crystal viper viper the cult loving that as well Uh, so, uh, we got different comments coming over here steve yes I'm trying to connect we're trying to connect. I don't know if you ever heard of jim cream before he's a singer he sings for uh The apathy or a peace brothers Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah Yeah, I do. He's not connect. He's not connect In the meantime as he waits i'm gonna do a couple more shout outs tom Milwaukee tom I call him he does written reviews. He sends me jimmy. I want to do some written reviews and I go great great We need content for the website. Thank you so much tom for all the love over the years and all the great reviews You've done parent. Of course parents always helpful. He's come he does some interviews Uh, when I need a co-host he's there or we need a cameraman or a hand or anything jim cream. What's going on? Uh, k-man also does a lot of written reviews. Thank you so much k-man for being the pit bulls that you are And for all the great reviews jim cream what is going on brother? Can you hear us? He's by steve Yeah, take care guys. Take care. Thanks a lot steve. Bye jim Yeah There we go. We can hear him. Look at that. Hey, nice shirt. Look at that Same tailor. Okay. This is the jim. Yeah, jim this shirt. Okay This was the the shirt That I made for like $30. It's a one and only the original and the font is already made in font And I realized I better not keep the iron made in font because I might get sued down the line I like these ones so much for all your support of the years What's going on? Tell us what you're doing man. You have some albums out. What? Yeah, well, congratulations on your uh anniversary guys Do a great job. You guys tell it honestly and uh, You know over the years, I always came to you for interviews because You know the real story was always heard and I and I always like it Another story, but um, it's one of those things where you know There you go, maybe Vincent But um, you know, it's just one of those things jimmy, you know, you we met we met Back a few years at the heavy metal Hall of Fame and and we connected and uh, you you covered my career and and uh, you've been great You guys are great. So to to those of you guys. Well, no, it's thank you to you It's thank you to you for the music that you do You know, I told Alan I go Alan. I don't really want to hear People patting us in the back We should be patting the people who helped us over the years on the back, you know Because We can't do it alone, right? It's it's with the artists and the friends and the cameraman and the editing and all that other Stuff that goes along with it and the guy tearing the bag like stiff rod Um, you know, there's just there's just so many people who help us So jib tells what you're doing. Tell us what you're doing I will but I do want to elaborate on one one more thing on that, you know Without you guys and I might keep propping you but without you guys It nowadays is we release all these records and and we do all this touring and nowadays there's no more mtv And there's no more outlets like that that I we can get the word off that we're even doing any of this stuff Making albums. So you guys, you know, get the word out. So we really appreciate it as musicians. So Good job. Did you know what the the goal was? Me now we're sitting around we go, you know I think it was saxon at the time they go saxons. How come they got a new album? I don't nobody knows about it The other thing Jim too is hey, these guys were in town nobody even knew because nobody's got money to promote anymore So we said, well at least we could do is help promote some of the shows We want it was a bit selfish to be true because we wanted these bands to come back We enjoyed them and we want to keep watching them and we want them to keep coming back through our town. So That's one of the reasons why we wanted to get the promotion out because there's no money for promotion anymore Well, the label don't have a budget to do that years ago. We'd make a record and the labels, you know They would just tell us where we're playing. They would get us advertising in each city That those days are gone now. It's all self advertising and outlets like you guys where you guys talk hype it up for a month And then the band shows up in town, you know, so that's so It's we're kind of like the underground thing now. So it's kind of this is the new now and I like it personally because You know years ago I do interviews and whatnot and you didn't get become close with with the interviewer like we do now I talk to jimmy all the time and it's uh, it's a cool thing. So great job Well, you can't get more underground than us. We have to do the show in the basement. So Yeah You know, um, Alan I I saw jim sing You know, he sings with the the the apesio or a peace brothers. I don't know which whatever you however you want to pronounce it He was doing deal I mean, he does it like like great like like spot on like there's not a lot of singers there who could you know They could kind of do deal But jim does it jim is spot on man. He does a great job I saw him live. He just does an excellent job. What's the album you have out? Got a new one. Well, I got a bunch of as you see we released a few cover CDs Which was has been a lot of fun just putting out covers. I have all this time now since we're not touring Just to you know record. So um, but the big album that we have coming out is going to be um We're hoping to get it out by april. It's going to be on sleazy writer records out of um grease It's got many apesian drums In stefan who also played with paul diano who you had on earlier That's guitar. He was paul's guitar player In a solo band. Well, he's on guitar and in bass and keyboards and it's produced by arty dillon Who also plays guitar with me and the apes brothers? So and the album sounds if you like deal like you were saying it sounds like it could be in a d. Okay, I log Real catchy heavy dark sounding It sounds like something right off of um the mob rules album. Wow. Yeah anxious to hear that Yeah, some of the tracks we looked Vinny calls me up was mad. This would have been a great song for So it's a really cool all three of us are really or four of us already too We're really into it. I think it's gonna be a really cool album So that's what I got coming up next and we just started recording for the uh, the new Episy or piece where we're talking to album to follow up to sinister. So we're Depends on which brother you're talking didn't we allen we reviewed sinister. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Did you yeah back in the day And Vinny's one of my favorite drummers of all times. I mean just the work he did would deal You listen to it today and you're like wow Carmine as well. Oh, yeah He's a legend, right? You know, I've been playing Carmine for about we I've been in that band for about 11 years now and um You know, Carmine just doesn't slow down. He's you know, he's 74 years old and He wouldn't he plays like he's a 25 year old and I really mean that sometimes we look at him You know, we had to do it two shows one time in one one day We did a double show. Um, we did an afternoon show and then two hours later we had to do another show And and we got done playing the first show and and I remember sitting in the in the van Going to the next show and I said to Vinny. I go, how the hell are we gonna play again? And do a full show like this And Vinny goes, I don't know my hands are killing me. Carmine went up there and he had a better show the second Strong total pro. He's a funny guy too, man. He's a funny guy. Oh, that's right. He's great The best I love him. I love both of those guys And I'm happy to be a part of that but so I got those albums coming out and um, you know Just just looking to tour again, you know Yeah Like like many many many So have one What what is this so you're writing a lot of material Oh, what do you think is going to happen? I mean do you think in your area is is is Is it simmering down and things looking good or is the same old same old? I'm in new york So, you know, I'm sure you see it you guys are in canada right both you guys So I'm I'm sure you you see the the new york mess that we're under so things change every hour But um, you know, we have a couple big shows. I play in a band called here nation as well It's a tribute band. We it's a regional band that we go up and down the coast And I have a five really good shows. We've got warrant. We're doing a show with warrants. We're doing quiet riots slaughter Brett michael's we got all these things lined up and it's like tickets are on sale for these shows And who knows if they're gonna play it's it's been crazy and just everybody knows hair nation your band You're just playing basically the 80s metal hits. Is that it the hair? That's the jupy 80s hits all the 80s hair bands And it's that band. I've been in that band for 21 years. You guys come by play a show in canada come to montreal Do the circuit Yeah, we would you know and we we talked about that and um the rock pile and whatnot and coming out all over to montreal Because you guys have a great music scene. Yeah, so You guys they would they would really embrace our band because we do it, right? We do the songs the way they're supposed to be played and but they sound like us Like I don't try and sing like each of the bands that we're doing if we're doing a quiet riot song I sound like me singing quiet, right? You know, and I always thought that was cool if you're gonna be in a tribute band Sound like yourself like still panther does it, right? You know, he you probably sound better the quiet ride than quiet riot does I You know, we we we tried we'd sound like us is what it sounds like and that's what's kind of cool We have our own sound. I mean 21 years together. We should have a sound and your wife's your your drummer Yep, Colleen master cove. She's a drummer. I got the bass player from uh, Lou grand band He's the bass player 80s emmer. So it's a it's a cool band and we do we played we Over the summer well two summers going already geez we um as a jim cream band We did a we headland the whiskey a gogo and they um in la when he filmed it and recorded it for a live album So I got that coming out soon too So I got a bunch of releases, but we just want to get out there and play, you know Everybody we interview says the same thing. You're right, you know, we're just and strange enough We haven't seen a show like you haven't played a show. We haven't seen a show in Very long time Yeah, yeah, you know, it's it's it's It's the strangest thing, you know We grew up in a great time the three of us because at least we got to see shows and play shows and And do it who knows what the future holds for for entertainment. Are you just gonna be that is a really good point I'm sort of full from shows. I don't know if I could say that like I mean I've seen pretty much everybody who I've wanted to see right there's our exceptions here and there But the younger generation I guess but you know, look, we've lived through wars Humanity has lived through all kinds of disasters and we'll get through this Just to go back to what you're saying Jim I'm part of our posse a Romanian posse here in montreal. I mean I love talking to those guys because they had no shows growing up in the 80s They were in a communist gland. So when I talked to me hi and the stories he tells You know, they had to buy, you know 500 dollars bought one record that they had to share with five different people And we were going down buying five records a day almost, you know and the show is that you saw that tour Yeah, we were spoiled. They were you know, montreal luckily was always On everybody's tour tour dates and so I go, you know, we're like you like you were saying Jim we grew up in a great time and we were privileged to see a lot of great bands Which not a lot of people were able to do so or lando says to me I go or lando we're on curfew goes ah piece of cake. I come from romania That's a great observation because I never even thought of that to be honest with you. Um, you know, it's it's funny because Uh, a couple of my records that I that we did um my velvet crush record and insatiable both were done by a russian artist he's from russia and um, you know, he's probably around our age and he's amazing edu nisky and um He would tell me like back and forth Stories about like he doesn't like when I would explain what I wanted He you know what I mean? He just couldn't grasp it because it wasn't really exposed to it other than what I guess america fed him So I never really thought about that. That's that was a great observation. Uh, you know, so we it's all relative, isn't it? We got a belly full of shows and they they didn't but you know, here's the thing But europe still is is big for the kind of music I put out and the label I signed with is out of um out of greece So we we are planning on doing a big tour of of europe pretty much the whole for the whole record And the whole idea behind it makes this record and just go tour tour tour And um and sell units because that's how you got to sell units nowadays. You can't really sell them At a record store anymore because there are none So they're online shows like you guys promoting it giving a good review If you if you believe in it give a good review and uh people read it and say oh, I should check that out Sounds like something I'd be into you know the comments are coming over Anyway, Jim, we're gonna let you go. We've got a brother some of the cover songs and hey You've already generated a lot of interest just for this interview. So so here nation Jim creen. Thank you so much for supporting us over the years. Thank you so much for being a friend And I look forward to seeing uh, you know hearing some more music and hopefully you come to uh, Montreal I mean alec could come uh, yeah on life I want to come back on when it's the 20th anniversary. Sorry. We'll all be old men by that deal It's like I don't know what kind of I mean if we got zoom today what the heck so we're gonna have in 10 years or now But anyways, I'm gonna read some comments in the meantime as we wait for neil turban here. Thanks, Jim. Thanks, Jim Congrats guys. Thank you very much. All right. Here we go. Let's read the comments Alan as we wait for neil turban Or you know, we could talk about the time Orlando almost ran me over. Yes. Yes That was that was I guess that would be a low light in the 10 years What concert was that is that michael shanker michael shanker. What a concert So what are the other highlights alan as actually let's go to these comments. Okay, because a lot of people are You want to go backwards or forwards or okay or lando mosh pit? Yes tom. I'm right here So, okay or lando's watching so maybe you could now Now tell the or lando story. Well, you know, I just met or lando and uh, we went to the concert and I come out of the concert I see him take off and he was in the car. I was heading towards the subway And the light is I'm crossing the street. The light just turns Green or just about to turn red and he comes barreling around the corner And I'm like, who's this maniac that's going to run me over and I stopped dead on my track He was able to slam on the brakes and I looked down at sir lando behind the wheel So that was that was almost the end. I'm glad I made 10 years. I guess it should be celebrating tonight I'm glad I'm glad I'm here for the 10 year anniversary Orlando and his wife and all you know christian his friend these guys It came to our house my house to barbeque. You were there. They're all there. It's you know, it's like we're a family Right parents. They were a parent parent was there, of course And uh, you know, we're all a family and that's kind of it's it's it's it started off Like it started off you me christopher kala on the first show and johnny You know as a family and involved into a family, you know, but what's good and that's right because I We can't do the show like you said, I mean we got kenny in new york, right? We got Neil on the west coast You know, we got the other like jim in the new york area as well And and parents got great experiences from his time in san francisco and the great stories and and giles in in europe So, uh, who would have thought that 10 years ago when we started, right? It's it's just Skype was at its infancy infancy. Oh the problems we were having their facebook was was just a small platform back then internet Alan the internet today versus back then it's like, okay, alan Okay, here comes neil The internet back then do you remember alan? We were just trying to get a crap. Do you know like the first few shows? Turban there he is. Look at that. How's that for scenery? We got four feet of snow and he's in front of the ocean here Let's count neil's nostal hairs while he's waiting to connect it. There he is Came out thanks. Is neil on Marcy. Hey guys. How you doing marcy? I'm just reading out some names here. Tom You rule tom. Thank you so much um Paolo you hear my audio we can hear you fine. Yeah, mr. Neal turban at the ocean behind you We got nothing but snow and we look at our window neil. Where are you? Which beach? Well, I had to I had to bring in my my laptop. So, uh We had to use the phone on this one. That's why it's kind of are you a rodando? Throw throw and go. Yeah Yeah, it's kind of sunny out. Here's the story alan. I'm in california. I'm in rodando beach Yeah, I didn't look up neil turban. I just drove right through It's a nice little area. I gotta say it's a nice little area You're gonna be a bit backlit there to your left neil. We've got the sun all we see is your sun Behind your head. So sorry. Maybe you guys get a sunburn All right neil turban his first assignment. Let me go back Oh, this is his first assignment the cat house live in 2014. Oh So great. I think it was like autograph and Neal, who was it? bullet boys and uh bullet boys Bullet boys and bobby jarzombik Bobby jarzombik ricky rackman ricky rack and he put that whole thing together That was the first neil turban Interviews and it was a multiple and there was another band. I'm trying to think of the name I just don't listen to a lot of the hair metal bands, uh, you know Nowadays but I know steve brown trickster. That's it trickster trickster Man, yeah, and again, what a what an addition to the metal voice getting neil I think we I think was What was that? How was your first experience with neil jim? What was it about the getting a feedback on some old anthrax albums or you know what it was I was you know alan. I was a big fistful of metal fan Right huge huge. So I emailed neil and I go hey neil. I want to do an interview And uh and actually I think even jiles was on that interview And neil's just you know, we just you're organic. Look some people you connect with and some people you don't That's what michael was saying Yeah And that that's pretty much all it is and then I think you either was Me who said to neil. Hey neil, how would you like to do some interviews in la or neil said to me? I don't know what it was but either way It works neil's fantastic neil asked those interesting questions that I would never think of I'll come on jim you you always think of great questions and so does alan you guys have you know a lot of Like it's like martin popoff said, you know, you guys bring out the right You know you engage people and you bring out the right, uh, you know responses and you know It's all about sharing spreading the love and we got to do it. You know, we got to help each other. It's about You know help it, you know, it's about A community really helping each other and that's really what it is and I mean I see the metal voice as a Interface for the metal community. I mean it's much more than Let's say a blabbermouth or a brave words because you know, you have interaction It's not just a one-way information street. You know, it's like you got stuff like this going on so So what were some of your favorite interviews neil? It's a great milestone. I think and I I think uh, you know, some of my favorite interviews. I don't know if I've done them yet But I'd say that some of them lemmy Well, you covered lemmy by the way alan when lemmy died in 2015 I go. Yes. Do you think you could get to the funeral and he was there? Covering the funeral remember me Yeah, I kind of showed up, but um, you know, I was there That's Well, I mean, I you know, I knew lemmy and We knew each other we we played shows together and you know, he was always cool. I mean, I hung with lemmy Back at when the namshow was at the LA convention center And what's really cool about lemmy is that you know, I didn't have to go up to lemmy lemmy came up to me And it was weird, you know, I mean I was at that same show george clinton Parliament funk until it came up to me in the parking lot. So it's just it's just that kind You know, and he's like liking my my jacket or something and it's like wait a second. You're george clinton. I'm supposed to be liking you What are you telling me? Great great interviews over the years Not only was he a motorhead, but just as a human being what an incredible human being Your audio kind of faded Character, but but also just incredible Interact people's skills his people skills were way above and beyond most morals I mean, that's that's kind of really what I think of when I think of lemmy and you know and and of course, you know, I was connected to lemmy with the music and You know, I knew him back in new york when when it played To be computer back in like 1983 or something. Neil. Maybe you want to move to another location your audio is kind of fading So one of your microphones kind of fading in and out there I lost the audio You can reconnect if you like It just it sounds like you're inside a shell Headset in the wrong place Neil is back live from redotto beach One second. I can't hear anything you guys talk. All right. Yeah. No, you we you're coming through nice and clear Yes, the sun is the sun. I wish I was there. It looks like such a sunny and warm day We don't even know what that means so Mike check Mike check and hear us technical difficulties first time I met Neil in person allen was at The show he played in montreal for death riders No, no, no, no, no when he when he was filling in for I can't remember that band Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, he filled in as a singer somebody got somebody got Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's where I met Neil in person for the first time and after that I was There is Look at you. I forgot that one away. Yeah, can you hear us? Neil is that your condo there? Guess not All right, I'll look at the comments. I'm gonna sign back in Okay, so I'm back in couch potato fill says fist full of metal is a classic amen Bobby Z is one of the great metal drummers marcy. I've seen quite a bit of Neil's shows over the years Paulo son son Yeah, yeah, yeah, I could I could relate to that Keeping the zombie guy buffalo love and that's for probably Jim cream, right? Man legend in the area. He was sorry I'm gonna leave and come back in. Oh wait. Oh, no, he's sound good now. We can hear you. No, it's jamming up. It's Okay, I hear you guys. Sorry about that. It's all stupid It's all good Your last it's all good. We don't have to go anybody going back 10 years That's we were Running into this on every interviewer stall and now we're kind of spoiled these days Look how many people we had on tonight. So It is There's Neil back in the day or even talking about like seven years ago. There's no way we can rotate guests like we do today There's wires cables lights construction lights. It was it was insanity man YouTube I want to turn Go ahead. I'm sorry YouTube could not stream live Right, there was no live streaming six years ago if there was it was it was very Very few people did it the tools were not there yet. Now. Look at us. We're live. We're live like the radio Well, I just wanted to point out a couple of really significant interviews that I felt were worth mentioning and revisiting because You had you had asked allen, you know, what were some of the highlights or some of the high points and some memorable moments I mean, there's so many of them But I just wanted to mention that biff bifur the first time I interviewed Saxon was at the Motorhead Saxon show with crowbar opening at the That in downtown la by by usc. I'm trying to Think of the venue and what was really cool about that is I had My camera at the time I had a microphone like a Nikon camera. I was And and what happened is I'm I've got my iPhone and then I'm trying to get the You know, the you know, get it all set up, right? Because I was kind of nervous, you know, I'm interviewing biff The first time, you know, I couldn't like I like jimmy sent me to freaking hair nation and now Like holy shit We know that feeling. We know that feeling well, nil. We know there's a chance that maybe I could talk to let me and You know get somewhere, but you know, it was a lot of security and you know busy, you know Jimmy why am I going to hair nation? I go patrickster. You gotta go Yeah, yeah, well the bullet boys were really cool. I mean, I really love mark three. He was great So what happens is I get on I go to talk to biff and he invites me on the tour bus I'm like, okay. That's really badass So we get on the tour bus and the whole band's on there and not only that but then I'm like I brought this little this book. I bought in germany. I had him sign it and I showed it to him He says holy shit. You got that and And I brought one for let me to sign but I couldn't get to let me but I saw lemmy there I saw him backstage, but he was surrounded by people. You know how it is and So what biff so biff was so totally cool because My camera, I think I left the memory card or the battery or some stupid thing, you know Because you're in a big rush and you try to grab everything and And what happened is yeah, I I I screwed up that one up because I didn't have my my hd camera And I had to use my iphone and I still did it and biff was totally cool about it I got to give him all the credit because he was a total professional. I'm sure he's seen all the All the moves, you know over the years and you know, I just I just love that about the The people that really are the statesmen of heavy metal. They're really They carry the flag in a big way and that's biff bifer and saxon for sure and then Go ahead guys. Yeah, if I can just add to that because we're talking about saxon the last time we interviewed them Nigel's outside. He's got his backpack on he looks like somebody's grandfather He's he said I'm just going to go for a walk as you see the sights, you know And then you see him on stage later. He's a complete beast on drums There we get on the tour bus like you said and it's a you know I joked that it's a long ways from the 80s when you probably had a huge Young young women on the back of the tour bus and not too middle-aged men like me and jimmy But then then paul comes over and he's would you like a drink of water? Would you real british gentleman, right? Like would you like anything? Can we get you anything? It's like, well, this is your tour bus We're the ones and you know invading you so so anyways, it was just a great interview and they're just great guys I just want to get that out there wonderful people and an amazing band I mean and the band I've always looked up to and always admired and you know, it's an it's an I mean, I'm really a fan. You know, that's that's what I am. I mean, I appreciate Bands that I grew up on just like you guys and I love them and and saxons one of those bands that You know, I just can't get enough of it. It's a it's a fantastic band. They're just stellar live and you know Amazing people. You know This is a good segue. So me and alan we're trying to do this. I'm not saying it's going to be successful or not We're trying to put in we're trying to write a book or books or volumes and And and and it's basically what you're saying here. You know, it's basically our experiences on tour buses Back back all crammed dressing rooms the things falling apart and The comedy behind it and the laughs So it'll be the metal voice book volume one two three four five. I don't know what it's going to be I don't even know if we'll be able to finish it, but it's funny so far I don't I don't think martin pop-ups worried at all This is like too goofy guys, you know wandering around, you know, meeting their the people don't know where to go And I just want to say thank you guys Thank you, jimmy. Thank you alan. Thank you for the opportunity to do 80 interviews and shows with you guys I mean only only only 10 percent of your Yeah, only 10 percent of what you guys have done, but you know, it's just an honor for me to Contribute and be part of it And you know, it's an opportunity for me to meet these people too as well, which are is phenomenal I mean when I had the opportunity to meet uli john ross who I remember being in a record store in new york city Uptown and I was on some appointment. I walked by some Used record store and I'm like going through it. Holy shit. Tokyo tapes, you know, and they're looking at this stuff I never seen this anywhere else And I'm getting other scorpions albums like loads and crow and you know, I had a lot of albums I mean I had over thousands of albums. I left them all behind back on the east coast, but you know, that was uh You know, I remember the the cover of that that album where you have rudie shanker You know bend it over backwards practically on these boots that he's wearing and then platform heels white white platform heels You know, I mean uli, how many people interview loudness like me and al and we've been waiting for loudness to come to munchy All the shows keep getting cancelled, but you had the opportunity meal I mean I have a story I've interviewed I've interviewed the guys Great interview. It's not the same thing I have a cool story about loudness too, but I just want to mention that you know with uli so What was really cool and you can watch it in the interview the second time like the first time You know, it was really kind of it was a little bit of trepidation I was kind of trying to tread lightly because I didn't want to just go for the throat and go say, you know tell me about that hendrix guitar, you know because uh I mean i'm a big hendrix fan. I did a hendrix song on my solo album back when and You know I'm I'm in touch with jimmy hendrix's brother, you know, so i'm just like This is the next interview there. Ellen. That's the next interview right there Yeah, well, I reached out so we'll see what happens But I mean I I would love to have that opportunity and you know, I have much respect for For the legacy of jimmy hendrix and and for you know for his brother leon who's an amazing Artist himself and a very cool person. So very very interesting to know, you know, it's it's it's something as a fan I really like to find out details. You know, I like to i'm a truth seeker. I like to know the truth, you know I don't I don't you know do well with Propaganda, you know, yeah, I agree with you, you know, you know me and alan we've always strived to sort of Go beyond the interview You know, like there's the typical questions we always try to get And I think that comes from research and knowledge You know, if you could understand someone you're interviewing then you could dive deeper and I don't mean it in a negative way I mean in a more interesting way You know, it was phenomenal for me to talk with uli about that hendrix guitar. He said to me neil He said, you know, you Like nobody asked me that question. Nope. That's the first time It's like they keep asking me the same questions And I was just kind of blown away that he would say something like that All they're asking him about is tokyo tapes every every interview with tokyo And he was real he was real appreciative and you know having my friend You know passed away robert cancer who who was working with with uli and You know, he he booked all the travels for van halen back in the day And he you know, he did all the school stuff and he was doing an event that I was involved with With robby creger At the alex theater in blendale We're working on something like that and then you know things happened obviously But and then he passed But what he was But what he put me into a lot of contact with uli in fact when I did the first uli interview I met robert and that's kind of how that all came about thanks to you and the metal voice you guys and So I went to a number of uli shows. I was there at a show in huntington beach. He was at this bar And it was like you could bump into him by accident Like it was you had to walk by the stage and you know, while he's soloing And it was that kind of a You know odd place to see uli roth, you know and also Gallagher's it was called huntington beach and then also seeing him out in orange county Yeah, I think it was out. Oh dana point. So he played out there and it was great. So he's like man, you came all the way out here Uli's walking from the stage to the from the dressing room the stage. Oh, you came all the way out here Yeah, of course. I did you know We had we had one occasion to interview liuli and it was gust g from fire wind His band was in munchal at the same time We were trying to get them both lined up at the same time You remember jim and there was a snow storm everybody comes up from new york when they play munchal They come up from pokeepsie and they play come come in the play here after and there was a four feet of snow The interstates are shut down Northern new york Here and it just didn't happen. We couldn't get to him because the show was canceled He couldn't get to the venue on time. It was a huge huge snow storm And we never got the pleasure of interviewing yuli. So I did interview liuli No, okay, I mean at that time. Yeah back then there was a huge snow storm like later on and it's everything neil said sweetheart, and I just really I always wants other questions. He doesn't want the typical question And I like liuli when he when he answered the question about You know about current music today, you know, he really obviously is quite a deep You know, he's a deep listener and a deep player, you know, he's definitely on a deep level And you know, I appreciated the candidness the honesty and it wasn't contrived It wasn't like, you know, someone trying to tip to tip toe through the tulips He was just right to you know right there and and and just really intelligent, you know, really A really cool guy, you know and and from the old school, you know, you really have to appreciate the old guard because I mean You know, it's it's irreplace You know, it's amazing about liuli and it will we'll get off liuli. I know we talked a lot about him, but He he kind of disappeared in north america for the longest time, you know He just completely now suddenly he's always he was always in north america for the past five years Do you notice that like he just there was no holy john roth for alan like Yeah, yeah, 15 years. He didn't tour north america. Then suddenly he's touring every year You know, I think you brought that you brought that up in your interview. Yeah, and uh, yeah, no He's a really sweet guy. So uh, there's so many. Sorry, bro Somebody says it's hard to hear out here Neighbor and she says she's Dana for Dana point is like 20 minutes down the street where I live neil was right down the street So maybe she's like right in the back there somewhere So again, again, thank you neil I want to personally thank you because you're our west coast correspondent and you get great access great interviews You always have great questions. You always have great comments and interesting comments on each and every song and each and every album And it's always a pleasure to have you to show and we're proud to have you as a member of our metal voice team So the 10 years 10 years going strong A pleasure alan. It's my pleasure jimmy. Thank you guys so much. I just wanted to give a couple of other iconic moments because I think it's worth to mention and uh, because I've had a number of interviews and And a number of experiences and uh, we we didn't we didn't get to loudness yet But I know we touched upon it But I wanted to mention that but I really wanted to also mention to rock and roll hall of famers And there's a significance to that obviously Artemis pile, I mean wow what a great man and You know, I have deep respect for him And as a friend really because he's friends with my family, you know And not only that I mean that's something I found out after the fact interviewing in the first time so and then the other Phenomenal thing is how kind and wonderful He he was to me and my friends when we went to see him in uh, palace birdies at the north nor norish theater And that was the first interview with um, Artemis and he was very candid about his about the plane crash the horrendous horrific 1977 crash that you know took out Basically took out Leonard Skinner at the time and it was it was just disgusting and then The fact that he got you know shot up after he went for help, you know, that's just and and I didn't even have to say anything I just mentioned Hey, we're gonna do an interview with you Artemis and we had done a show actually I don't think you guys know about this but We did a show together in 2012. It was a rock and roll autograph show So he so Artemis didn't Artemis played there with a band. I think it was not his normal band And he kind of sat in on four songs with a skinner band tight band and It was great and actually He went on right before us So he was kind of there in the ballroom when we played my band Neil Turbin and it was my solo band at the time And what happened is, you know, he I was basically hitting some fast songs and some screaming over the top type of songs from my band death riders and Older songs you might have heard and he was just like, how do you do that? I'm like, how do I do what? How do you sing like that? How do you scream like that? How do you I'm like Artemis? How do you drum like that man? Street survivor Holy smokes. So I'll just leave it at that. I mean that was and and then then after After playing the show, you know, I was kind of shy about coming up to him a little bit trepid, you know a little bit of FUD, you know if you're uncertain need and doubt, you know Just a little bit of like this Artemis file and he had you know his cowboy hat on and I had mine and I'm going up to him and I'm just like, you know, this is Leonard Skinner's drummer, you know But he was totally cool and totally gracious and you know made you feel real comfortable and I think that's a really significant moment because It's those artists that make you feel like you're one of the one of the peeps, you know You're one of the the crew and there's ones that make you feel like you're not one of the crew And I can tell you some names, but I won't mention them because you probably interviewed a few of them but Yeah, it's like I gotta say something Neil and and and and I'm not trying to be rude, but we've got to we've got to shut down soon Okay, sir, because we're going for 113 minutes I know you're Say you got me at the end. You got me at dinner time. This is rough. Um, but I'll just mention the last one I want to say this I don't think there really has ever really been a bad experience No, we've been lucky that way We've been lucky that way for sure because I think that 80s sort of Brushing people off attitude is gone It's a different era that we live in where artists need exposure And they're always paying for it. And then when there's free exposure, they'll take it So they're more kind kinder. They're more gentler. They're more responsive to people who do interviews Well, we're very choosy about who we want to interview, right, Jeff? Yeah, well, everybody's been cool. I'm not saying that I'm just saying that, you know, some people when you approach them Not necessarily for an interview, you know, they're not always Warm and fuzzy is all I'm trying to say. I'm not trying to Say that people weren't cool for an interview. You're saying Glenn Hughes. You mentioned Glenn Hughes Yeah, Glenn Hughes now. Now I was friends with Glenn. We were hanging out all the time back in the 90s the late 90s Like 96, 7, 8, around 99 around that time frame And um, or actually it might have been 97 to 99, but It was really, you know, I wanted to do an interview with Glenn So I tried to reach out to him at Nam and it was just hard to reach him And you know, then the next time he was very gracious and let me do it on the fly and you know Glenn's a rock and roll hall of famer amazing guy amazing singer amazing bass player and a legacy artist And I just thought, you know, it's so cool when When that happens, you know, when you can It's hard. You couldn't get the person to arrange it on the phone. You couldn't get an email But these people are so cool. And you know, I got to give the props to lead afford and our manager too Because we were there you and you and I Jimmy and me Let me tell the story to Alan Alan. So here we are with lead afford And uh, and nobody's interviewing lead afford where the metal hall of fame me and Neil are there and I go, Neil, we got to interview Neil for Neil's the going. We got to interview new leader Ford And Neil, I don't know how he did it. He convinced the manager Nobody interviewed leader Ford. He can not only did he convince the ad manager? I was doing a camera He convinced the manager and he got a great interview out of her and he got some little nice nice tidbits of, you know What she was talking about or what she was planning to do And there's so many more more people which I won't cover now, but I just you know, I could give credit to all the The thrash metal artists all the rock artists. I mean, just there's so many people that were cool I mean jack black gaming and on the fly interview. It's true. That's right. That's black You know all the great people at at the uh Randy Rhodes events and and the great people at the Ronnie James deal events. I mean so amazing You know, I think the biggest star that's you've interviewed is jack black at that That's sort of like hollywood level talking about here. He's a huge deal fan. He's like huge So for those of you who have not seen the jack black interview by neil turban on the metal voice check it out Neil The last one is loudness. So I have to mention this. So I was there Loudness maybe I was there in brooklyn at lemores brooklyn in 1982. I think it was or 83 whatever it was Loudness played in the u.s. For the first time. It might have been 84 but I think it was 83 or two and Borovah Boravoy Curgeon from blabbermouth was out there Out the front door and I was outside waiting for loudness. It was freezing cold zero degrees, you know shitty weather in new york And we're there waiting for our band that we love loudness So that was my loudness story about back then and you know, who knew who knew it was going to be borovah and then And then I run into boravoy at at the who It was uh, it was a brian tissue event that he did at the house of blues in hollywood And you know, so we talked for the first time in person Since new york back in the 80s and he's like, hey, we were standing outside loudness. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right Yeah, you look kind of familiar so And then and then I was on his bowling team, which was really cool at the at the do event, but You know, I love blabbermouth, but that's not even the story. So so when I went When I went to interview, uh Loudness at their hotel after the show the next day before they left town what happened is You know, I interviewed My noru and akira, but I think I I think my noru was a little bit better on the english But I just love both of them. They were so amazing and then I did a randy roads event A couple years later a year later and guess who was playing on the same show Akira Some sitting there with akira. We're just like and this is what akira says to me I mean, this is what this is the story. I wanted to share his english, by the way, how's his english Well, he was his english was fine And i'm like his english was fine. Why didn't he want to talk to me that day? But He was fine. He was very friendly and cool But but he said, uh, I want to I said you play guitar and I want to play drums for you He's like I want to play drums Like you can say I'll play drums. I'm like, why do you attack a sake? Yeah, I always just love saying that Those guys are so fun and they're so cool and and I could just I I could just go and see loudness every day You know, they're you're yeah, I love loudness. Remember I mean live loud Loudness Jaguar they came here They cancelled I think it was a visa problems or visa problems, right? Four or five times jimmy. It's like every time that we get our hopes up. They were to get cancelled. So one of my favorite bands neil Thank you so much We thank you. We thank you for everything you've done. Yeah craziness will include you in our book Thank you the crazy. How about the time how about the time that I got to interview all the guys The original band of excited. I hadn't seen since the eights. That was right. Yes. Yes. All of the original guys We'll say this one other time neil No, I'm gonna drive two hours. We hit the two hour mark. We got a you guys didn't even drink beer yet What's going on? No, no, I got a cold one waiting for me within the right here. Everybody supposed to raise a glass Everybody in years. Thank you so much everybody. I'll thank you. Thank you all all our viewers for supporting us Keep supporting us. Keep subscribing because Guys like neil and we just love doing the interviews and bringing it to you And we like to do it for for years to come. So keep subscribing. Keep checking us out. Thank you for all your comments Thank you for watching the show and we'll try to get this done for another 10 years. So Thank you so much gentlemen and happy and happy 10th anniversary of the metal voice and by the way Two interviews with john bush. Oh, yeah I had to throw that in there. Yeah, john bush is the man. That was so cool of him and He was great. So I mean, I love john bush I love the metal voice and peace out from redondo beach california Beautiful redondo for much y'all canada. I'm gonna go get my snow shovel and uh Get your car and go find some snow Thank you neil. Thank you. Thank you everyone. That was fun