 So I associated them being dickheads and the action with being sinful. I was like, well, that's what it is. I bought heads with those dudes, you know, and they were all like footy players and rugby players and stuff like that. I played soccer and volleyball and did musicals. So like, you know, let's say the word gay got thrown around into my face a few times. Yeah. And eventually I was like, man, all right, fuck this, I'll come back. You know, I'll throw my two cents in. So instead of like getting in fights or being a bit of cheeky dude, I wrote like an open letter. We were all still in my space. So, you know, I'm not putting an open letter on my space because I've still got Usher playing, yeah, in the background. Like we're not, we're not on, we're not on the full social media. And I wrote this letter and it was pretty much just, there's two types of people in the schools. People want to learn as people want to throw sticks at each other at recess and like go like finger people on the weekend to get chlamydia and like being sick. And I printed it off. Like that's the level we were at. Printed it off, handed it to a couple of people and then emailed a couple copies. Do you have your name on it? Yeah, I wrote my name down. I didn't write it, I didn't call anyone out. I wasn't like this person, this person, this person. I was like, as a collective, like here's choices for everyone. You can either be like this sort of person or you can be like this sort of person. What grade was this? This was like the last day of school. Okay. I was like, I'd had enough the night before last day's school. So I got on my Huntress Thompson bullshit and just like gone zordered out by like third period. There's 60 dudes outside of my class, like classroom going boring. I was like, I think it's like six o'clock last night. I was like already in bed. I've read like, I'm like, I'm ready. I'm ready to just like watch some modern family, just fall asleep. Modern family, how good. Yeah. And then my sister came over with her boyfriend and then the baby. And so now it's like 10 30 in the living room, a couple of glasses of wine. My whole family screaming at each other because we decided to play the 1% club. Like, you know, the Jim Jeffries thing. We're like, let's watch it and see who's the smartest. Oh, that did not turn out well. Yeah, it's just the whole family's fucking like yelling at each other. Oh yeah, it was bad. But yeah, we played. We played the 1% club at the Jim Jeffries thing. Yeah. And like one of my sisters like, no, we all need a paper and a pen and we've got to write our answers down. So no one yells it out and then with somebody else copies so we can figure out who's the smartest. And I'm like, we don't want to play this game. Like you're 17 and arrogant. And like, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like, I'm I'm projected to get this T. I'm the smartest in. I'm like, you're 17. I remember when I was 17, you know, I thought I was the smartest too. But I was fucking idiot. Like you were. We all were. And so about halfway through the game, I'm done with this. You're all talking while I'm trying to listen to the questions. I'm like, all right, cool. Have you ever tried playing Monopoly with them? She fucked up. Like there's too many of us to play Monopoly. Oh yeah. Because it's like, you know, there's like seven of us all up. Is it the same dad as well? Yeah, same dad. Yeah. Yeah. Kassler. So yeah, Kenny and Nicky. And like I call them Kenny and Nicky. I don't call them. Mom and dad. I don't call mom and dad because when we grew up, I grew up like in my like Nana's house when I was learning to talk. Like my mom and dad, they were like building a house like way out like in England. And so it's like my mom, my dad, my uncle, my, my granddad, my Nana and me all in like this small house. So everyone was called my mom and dad, Nicky and Kenny. And so I just called them Nicky and Kenny. And then because obviously I was called them Nicky, Kenny, my sister, Georgia, she called Nicky, Kenny, and the Darcy called Nicky and Kenny. And then we moved out here and there was two more here, Sonny and Teddy. And they kind of, I think they call my mom, Nicky, but they call Kenny dad. So they call them dad, which, which I find stupid. Amazing. I'm like, we're recording all this, right? Sweet. Yeah. Yeah, I don't. Yeah. I'm like, it's good stories. Good stories to start with. Yeah. All right. We'll wait for Ryan because he's going to go across the cameras. Yeah. You've got to stream this back to the Kremlin. Yeah. We're going to, we're going to add all that. We're going to add all that in. That could be the start. That's how it is. I'm not quite recording anything. I'm just DJing. He's been solitaire. Yeah. Sonny got on. All right. I'll do the formal intro right now. And good luck to you editing all of that intro there then. What's, what's the intro? Big ups to Putin. Down with the crane. What up, Vlad? Welcome home. Can't wait for the sleeper coat to come in so I can finally get out of this place. Just kidding. I like it here. It's not too bad. Welcome to the Sevo show. We're on the podcast. It's a public holiday here on the Monday, WA day, and we're joined by someone not from Australia and myself. So it's another ethnic affair. We've got Rory Lowe, a funny guy. He's been around for a while, over East sometimes. And yeah, he's here to help promote his tour, national tour, and also to talk shit and some other stuff. Yeah. Mainly here to talk shit. I think the pro was more of a, it's more of a catalyst or a little reaction afterwards. Yeah, exactly. That's how we get people on. Like, I've got something. I've got eyeballs. Well, I haven't seen you in like in ages. Been a while. And then we were out on Friday and I was like, oh, this is great. And then because I got him banned, I got him banned on off TikTok. All right. Yeah. You're okay. You're the guy. Yeah. Yeah. You were saying, was it your bum crack? But it wasn't my bum crack. It was just like one cheek. Yeah. It was, yeah, you just pulled your pants and walked around with your jocks. And I was like, well, this is safe because bikinis and stuff. But no buttocks. No buttocks. No buttocks. No cleftal horizons. Yeah. But I feel like you're not allowed, you're not allowed female booby or male butt by the sons of things. Like, but you're allowed male booby and female butt. And in 2023, that doesn't make sense. Yeah, no. Because you could have identified as a female for that moment. Yeah. My arse, my arse identifies as a very, very skinny woman. That's what it is. My arse identifies as Paris Hilton in the 90s. So it's real horny. It's real good. It's real good. So you're here, you're, well, let's go back. You were talking about your family before. When did you move here? I moved here in... When did the towers go down? 91. 91. That's my birth year. It was 2001. I think it was just after that. Must have been about six months after 9-11, I think. Coincidence. Yeah, 2002. Yeah. Early 2002. And yeah, I think I spent one... I think I was supposed to go to high school in England, but the year system here is different. So you have, over here, you have one more year in primary school. So I had to like repeat the year of primary school. But then I graduated, when I graduated high school, I was only 17. Yeah. So I have no idea what happened there. Yeah, most people graduated 17 back then. And then what happened later was the year sevens, they put them into high school, which is stupid. Yeah. And then you graduate, it depends on what half of the year you're born. If you're born late, you're going to be older than everybody in your year group. They said, you know what, stuffer, if you're born in the calendar year normally, it doesn't matter. We're going to split it halfway down, and we're going to go half and half to the start of the year. Yeah, I don't understand why they do that, man. And I got so confused, because I started uni when I was 17. I was still 17 when I started university. Oh, what did you study? I said, I have a master's in architecture. There's a bit of intelligence with the comedy, which helps. I like shapes. I like shapes drawn windows. So you didn't want to pursue that further? Not really. Like my aim, while I was at uni, I was like, I want to, by the time I get the degree, I want to never have to use it. Okay. That was like the aim. Interesting. Yeah. Well, that's a good segue then, because a lot of my followers, a lot of the audience, are the kids who are about to embark into that journey. And they're like, oh, we're not sure if we want to do this or not. Yeah, man. I feel like kids these days, it's such a weird thing. Yeah, it's like they have to do it, but they don't. Yeah, because like... So how come you did it? I did it because, I think mainly I did it just because my parents don't want to do it. Okay. But I'm really glad I did it. Why is that? Like the things that it gives you, like the degree is like whatever, but like just the sense of like community that you get from like uni is like, that's probably my favorite thing. Like all my best friends came from uni. Like because you go to high school, you don't get to pick who your friends are. You're just like thrown into a jungle of just horny, violent little people. And they're just like, let's see who has the hierarchy, you know. And so you just kind of get pushed into like small social groups. What did you sit in high school and social groups? Oh man, I got in a lot of trouble in high school. Hey, we'll get to that. We'll get to that. Yeah, I got escorted off the premises by the principal on the first and last day of high school. Respect. Yeah, the community, friendship for uni. Plus like you get exposed to different things, like different ways of thinking and different like critical analysis and different social groups. And you get to find yourself a lot more. I find which is a lot better. You know, I feel like if you didn't go to uni, you just kind of like walk into the world and it's like, it's quite big and you can easily get lost. But I feel like if you go into uni, you kind of, you get to hand pick things that you like. You know, I want to do philosophy or I want to do, you know, art major or I want to, you know, do finance for some reason. And then you get to like meet like-minded people and then you get to be more like who you are. You get to find out more about yourself. Plus you get work ethic, like, which is like necessary. Because I don't think you get that from just going on AI and going, make me a photo of this. Yeah. No, it's the same with uni because I've got a teaching degree as well. And it's like, I, I realized, okay, shit, if I fail this unit, I have to repeat it and waste a thousand dollars. Whereas in high school, I'm like, I don't give a fuck. Yeah. I think my, dude, I think my, I think my units for, for architecture, I think they were five or six grand a unit. And so like, I don't even know what my hex debt is, but it's not getting paid off. And I laugh for a fact. Every time it's like, hey, you got paid tax or whatever. It's like, do you have hex? I'm like, do I? You tell me, you're the department. You're the computer. I don't know how to do this. But yeah, I loved uni, man. Uni is like one of my favorite times. And like, like, like my best friend, I met at uni and like, like music, like became like a huge thing while I was like at uni and like, you know, that's when you start like experimenting, like alcohol and stuff. Cause I was like, I was mad Christian. Why? Yeah. Like I was super Christian. So I didn't drink or have sex or do anything until I hit uni until I like turned 18. I would go to like church. It's like, it's like an Amish kid going to see the world and not come and back. Yeah. And it's all, it's all because of high school. Cause I went to, I went to Aquinas. Oh yeah. Yeah. So I went to Aquinas and like, I was a little huddling when I came off from England. I was like, skinhead. And I was like, you like fucking poking like that and like all the proper. And, and yeah. So I was like, I was wicked, wicked Jordy. Like, like, he like, why am I my proper touch on with our birds and that? Like, I don't want to do that maths and that. And so I spoke like that at like 11 with his skin head. And then got here and I was like, I want to be a surfer, you know, cause I'm in Australia now and I'm like 12, 13. Yeah. We actually have good weather. Yeah. I want to be a professional surfer. And I was like, firstly, I need for that. It's not a surfboard. It's long hair. So I just grew my hair out as long as I could. And then first day of school, they were like, you can't come into school with that hair. So they drove me home. You drove you home because you're here. My hair was too long. Geez. Yeah. That's like one of the rules for the quietness. I don't know if they still have it, but like, yeah, your hair has to be like, you can't have a buzz cut. You can't have a one. It has to be longer than a one, but it can't be longer than your ears and it can't touch. It can't go over your collar. Like this is like their rules, right? And mine was like shoulder length. And they're like, we can't have this. And so they drove me home. I had to cut my hair. So I missed first day of school. I was like, this is sick. I don't even need to go to this school. This is awesome. So it wasn't a fact that you, you know, said something bad or anything. It was just, just the way the year. That came later. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so I was, I was like, my whole family's like not Catholic. No one in my family's Catholic. And I had this RE teacher called Paul Kelly. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Shout out Paul Kelly. And he was just like the nicest man I'd ever met in my entire life. Like he was beautiful. He was like incredible, bro. He was like one of the only people I've ever met that's a Christian that was like Jesus. You know, like he's like, he was like. Did he have the hair? No, no, he was, he was Scottish and like he loved football and he just had like this incredible patience. Wait, wait, wait, hang on. So there were a Christian, there were religious. Yeah. And Jesus had the long hair. Yeah. But they didn't allow you to have long hair. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like, they're like, yo, everyone cut their hair short and just every room you walked in, there's just this dude on the wall with like these luscious locks. And they're like, you got to respect that man. That's who you want to be. He can't be having his hair like that. That's not in it. No. Yeah. And so this dude was just like so nice and like one day I was like, man, how can I be more like you? And he was like following the Lord's footsteps. Just not his hair. Yeah. And I was like, all right, that's what we're doing, man. So like I converted myself to Catholicism. Okay. Yeah. Like went through the whole thing, like had confirmation. Did that dunk your head? No, I'd already been baptized because you kind of got to be baptized because like that's how you get in the schools. Yeah. Like if you're not, if you're not baptized, like you got baptized, yeah. That's the Jamaican one. If you're not baptized, man, you know what I mean? They just dunk your head from. So how do they know that you've been baptized? Do you get like certificate stuff? Yeah, you got like a full day. And so I converted myself. I ate the Jesus bread, drank the wine, became Christian and started going to church. And then I had this whole affiliation with like, you know, the social groups in school. I was like, man, if you're doing these things, like going out and drinking and like going out and like fucking people and doing drugs. I was like, that's bad, you know, because the people who were doing it, they were all dickheads. So I associated them being dickheads and the action with being sinful. I was like, well, that's what it is, you know. And so on my, and like I bought heads with those dudes, you know, and they were all like footy players and rugby players and stuff like that. And I played soccer and volleyball and did musicals. So like, you know, let's say the word gay got thrown around into my face a few times. And eventually I was like, man, all right, fuck this, I'll come back. You know, I'll throw my two cents in. So instead of like getting in fights or, you know, being a bit of cheeky dude, I wrote like an open letter. Like, and this is before like Facebook once to came out in what, like 2009. So this was like the year Facebook came out. Like, like we were all still in my space. So, you know, I'm not putting an open letter on my space because I've still got Usher playing yeah in the background. Like we're not, we're not on, we're not on the full social media. Instagram's not even built yet. And so I like, I wrote this like, you know, open letter and it was like a page and a half long, probably in like, you know, 20 font or whatever it was. Because you're like, you know, 15. Like, I just need to look bigger. Like you need to write four pages. Like how big is the font mess? Double spaced. Yeah, double spaced, triple lines. And I wrote this letter and it was pretty much just like, oh, look, there's two types of people in the schools. People that want to learn as people want to throw sticks at each other at recess and like go like finger people on the weekend to get chlamydia and like be sick. And I like printed it off. Like that's like, that's the level we were at. Printed it off handed it to a couple of people and then emailed a couple copies. You have your name on it? Yeah, I wrote my name down. I didn't write, I didn't call anyone out. I wasn't like this person, this person, this person. I was like, as a collective, like, here's a choices for everyone. You can either be like this sort of person or you can be like this sort of person. What grade was this? This was like the last day of school. I was like, I'd had enough the night before, last day's school, I got on my Hunter S. Thompson bullshit and just like guns sorted out. And by like third period, like there's 60 dudes outside of my class, like classroom going, all right, right. And they're like banging on the doors. And like everyone's like, what is going on? And I'm like, you know, I'm like pretty much crying. You know what I mean? Like, you know, I'm like, what, 16, 17? I'm like, I'm not ready for like that. I don't want to fight anyone. You know, I just wanted to tell you all to leave me alone. You know, it's like, it's like me going, leave Brittany alone. And yeah, like, like the, they had to like pretty much shut the whole thing down. And like, I had like a group of teachers like basically around me while like a mob of students was like throwing stuff at me. And they had to like take me out of school and they put me in the principal's car and it drove me home. And before they did that, they were like, we need to figure out what's going on. And like, what is happening? I'm like, oh man, I wrote this letter and they're like, where is it? And I'm like, well, I have a copy right here. And you know, like I'm reading it to the principal and as I'm reading it and the whole thing is basically like, if you don't study and you play footy, you're an idiot and you can't spell and you're not going anywhere. And like, you're going to be like, you know, 40 and you're not going to have a job and like you're a piece of shit. And I was like, well, I want to study really hard and get an amazing job as like an engineer. And I want to drive a Ferrari to like the reunion. And yeah, like twice of a child. And there's like spelling mistakes all through the thing. Like I could barely get through it because I wrote it in anger. It makes no sense. Did you still have it? Somewhere man. My mom told me she was like, I've still got that thing. I'm like, I would love to read it because it would be hilarious. Because it just wouldn't, it barely makes sense. It's art now. Yeah. I would never want to advocate bullying. But it was like, it was like, it was a response to bullying. Like it was more the other way around. Like I didn't go out after him. It was more like so much stuff had happened at our school with like people getting picked on and stuff like that. Like I was like one of the handball drama kids, you know. And like I was cheeky enough. But I wasn't cool because I didn't play like the footy or the rugby or the water polo or whatever. And so like there was a clash. And so like, I picked on the people that picked on people. Oh man, I'm like the Robin Hood. Yeah. Yeah, I was calling Robin Hood. In year 10, I had the same shit. I was helping out all the year sevens that were getting bullied by the older kids or, you know, the bigger kids. I grew up in Calguli. Yeah. So there was a whole bunch of ethnic clashes there. Yeah. But year 10, how our school was set up was it was... And you already watched 7-2 at this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you're like, yeah. So there was year 8th, 9th and 10th. That was the middle school. And then year 11th and 12th had a separate campus. Oh really? Nowhere near. And that was actually a good setup. I think so. Because year 11th and 12th just could focus. Yeah. But when I was in year 10, I figured out that I could get away with so much more. This is my last year at this school. Who gives a fuck? Yeah. And so I literally did nothing. And I was... There was a Boys to Men's program that they had. And... I thought you were talking about the band for a second. I was like, I've met them. Look, I've met Boys to Men for a good while. I remember in maths class, we'd be sitting at the back playing cards or something. You know, that's maths. Yeah. And... You're like, I swear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the Boys to Men's program, because it was like... Most of the school was actually Indigenous. Yeah. And they had a Boys to Men program for them. And you could only get in it if you were Indigenous. Okay. So they had segregation still. I mean... That's crazy. I mean, like support segregation. It's a positive thing. It's not like a yog get out of the bag. No, it was like... Yeah. So anyway, the Boys to Men thing was called over the PA. And we would all just stand up like we were all involved. Like, we just... And we just all left. And we did it so often that everyone just thought, oh, he's in our program. Yeah. And we just left and wagged. That's so funny. Yeah, I never really ditched school. I was never like a teacher. Because like I said, I got a calculus, physics, chem. Like, I did all of that crazy shit. Never did well at it, but I did it. And so I was always like about, like, let's do this. Let's do this. Like, that's the only way you're going to get by is if you're smart. And then the mining boom happened. And you're like, everyone that I was like, man, you're an idiot. You're not going to make any money. You're going to be on the streets. They were like, I'm 19 and I have three houses now. And you're like, oh, maybe I should have just dropped out and thrown sticks at people. Maybe that's what I should have done instead. His glasses had negative hearing. All right. So you finished school and then you went to uni. Went to uni. And then you graduated uni. When did you find the mic and start telling jokes? I actually did my first gig in high school. I did it for the talent show. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So in year 12, this also might be another reason they didn't like me. Yeah. No, I did. I did a bunch of jokes about like footy players and stuff like in my thing. And like I was dressed as like a cross between that Russell Brandon Norfielding at the time. Like I was hooked on Mighty Bush. So like, and this is when skinny jeans you got called gay for wearing skinny jeans still as well. So like I had like these pink and black checkered skinny jeans on. And like I used to, because I liked my hair being long, I used to like, I'd pull my hair back with a headband and then I'd like gel my hair forwards. So like my hair went back and then over. Do you have a photo? I probably do. You couldn't tell. You couldn't tell, but like it was so long, but no one knew it was long because of the way that I'd done it. And so I made sure that when I did the, did the gig, I let it all down. So my hair was all down. I was in these skinny jeans and I was like doing these jokes about footy players just being dumb. And I was like, I don't understand. Like, you know, they were awful jokes. Like they were really bad jokes. First gig I've ever done. And the jokes were like, oh yeah, you know, I don't understand why what the number is on the back of a football jersey. You know, it doesn't make sense. What is it? Your IQ? Like stuff like that, you know, and like. Way to read the crowd. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like again, same thing. Like people were furious. Like I had to have gone, I've meetings with teachers and stuff. But like at the end of it, you know, like teachers would come up to me and be like, man, look, I can't, you can't tell anyone that I've said this. You can't like let anyone else know. And they'd pull me aside and be like, man, I just want to shake your hand. You said some things that I've wanted to say to these little motherfuckers for ages, dude. And I'm like, thanks, bro. I really appreciate getting respect from like a grown man at like, you know, like like 16, 17. But like, I really wish I had more friends. So you probably had, you probably had the teachers all kind of like trying to hold their laughter. Yeah. And then all the kids were like, this guy. Yeah, yeah, pretty much. So that was the first time I ever did a gig. And then I don't think it was until I was like maybe 19, 20 that I actually did a gig proper. And I did it at the Brisbane. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's where everybody loses their virginity these days. And comedy as well. Yeah, especially here, man. Like it's such a, it was, that was like one of the best rooms. Like when it was like Shapiro's like back in the day, this was before the comedy lounge was even built. So I did it there. And I was like, oh yeah, this is pretty good. And then I think it wouldn't have been until I was like 20, 21 that I was like, yeah, let's go. Let's do this. This is cool. And so I was coming on to like the back end, the tail end of the, like, because you have to get the masters, you got to do, to get the masters in architecture, you got to do a bachelor of environmental design first. So I did the first degree. And then I reckon after I kind of finished the first degree, I went to America, like saw some like massive comedians, saw like Chappelle Shaw, like Jeffries before he kind of blew up. And I think Fly the Concords were massive at the time. This guy called Tony Woods, like, you know, everyone under the sun that I could watch. And I was like, yeah, this is, this is, this is game. So from then I was like, I reckon I could do this. I'll just do this. And so that last two years to do the masters, I think took me maybe four or five. Yeah. Yeah. Did you get a job out of it at all? I worked, I worked for a couple of people because you have to get a job for three months as part of the masters. To kind of like a prac. Yeah, yeah, pretty much like work placement or whatever. And so I got a job working for a friend of mine who I used to play football with called Jofi. And he was like doing, he's doing very, very cool stuff. But it just so happened that he's, he was working in like the head of the West Australian Institute of Architects' office. So I ended up just getting pushed into like the best, that's how like office you could possibly be in. And then I think like they, when I walked in, the guy who was like the head of architecture in the whole WA was like, you're very funny. I've seen you before, you're very funny. And I was like, this is awesome. Yeah. Like the thing that I should be doing, I've walked in there and I'm getting recognized for the thing that I wanted to. And I was like, this is the best outcome. This is exactly what I wanted from my life. Just I'm broke. And so, you know, that was what, three years ago now. And then moved over to Sydney to do gigs. And then since then everything's been on the up and up. So just for people who are looking to do this as an art or any art as a full-time profession, how did you kind of make your way into being able to do it full-time? Oh, pretty much. I want to say crying and sleeping on the street. That's pretty much what if you're going to do anything like artistic, it's going to suck. Like it's going to suck for so long. And everything about it is going to be like the worst. You know what I mean? Oh hell yeah, dude. Like, I remember, I love this stuff, man. Do you love sparkling water? I love sparkling water. Love it so much. Can you say it in the most British accent, please? I love sparkling water. So you went from being homeless on the street crying? Well, because that's what it takes, man. If you want to do anything artistic, I'm sure there's people that have been like, oh, I put out one song or I put out one thing. They're outliers, though. Those are outliers. Like you do all make that. For example, one of my favorite musicians at the moment, which the youngsters definitely know, is Fred again. Fred again, yeah. Fred again, who just seems to have hit the scene in the last like six months. And this went from like no one known who he is to like selling up Madison Square Garden. And you're like, that's what I want. You know, I want that. I want to upload a video and I want to go straight to the top. No, he was making beats for Ed Sheeran, like like first album, second album. You know what I mean? I didn't even know that. Yeah, yeah, dude. So he's been like, he's been like making beats for like some of the best people in the world. And Ed Sheeran was making songs. He still does for big artists. Yeah. So they've been doing this like in the background for forever. Like you look at Jack Harlow, like Jack Harlow was like releasing mixtapes in like 2000 and like 14. He loved it. He loved it. Yeah. Like loved it. And so you just basically, you've just got to love it. You know, you've just got to love it and you've just got to go, do I really want this? Yeah. Like, am I willing to go through like doubt and fear and hunger. Rejection. And rejection and having to start again and having to fight with people I love. And just to, not even the respect, but just for the opportunity to do it. Like the amount of times I would like scream like at my parents and at my friends and like past girlfriends have been like, this is what I want to do. Like stop telling me to do these sort of things. Stop telling me I can't do this. And like, you know, like you just want to give up and you just don't. And like that's the thing I reckon about two years ago, I remember just being like, oh, like, I can't afford a coffee. I can't afford a fucking bus ticket. And then, you know, like four weeks later, you cop a gig and you're like, oh, dude, I'm going to buy a house. You know what I mean? Like, I went from like, I went from like, I think 2019, I was on like, I met 33,000 off comedy, right? Which I don't think is a livable waste. And then the whole world shut down without mentioning the work. Because I don't want this fucking podcast getting tagged by it. But 2020 would have been like, no, sorry. You started to get a little bit. Yeah, I started to get good traction. I got some respect from like some some big comics and I really started to start going. And I did a theater show. I did Astor. I did my first theater show about about two months before the old Pandy-Wandy hit. And I'd filmed it all and I was like, all right, cool. I've got an hour-long special in front of like 600 people, right? And I lost three grand on selling out the Astor theater. Like I saw the whole thing out. I got camera crew in and I lost money. How? Because it cost me so much, you know? To film? Yeah, film and tech. And I had Wolfie and Pinda open for me. And I was like, look, I'm like, I know it's like to come up and not have the money. And like now I have it. So I was like, I'm paying you 500 each for 10 minutes. Get up there. We're doing this. And then I got my sales report in. It's like, sold like 6, 700 tickets, 30 or 40 bucks a pop. You've made like 15, 16 grand. All right, well, we're taking six for venue hire. I owe five to Matsu for filming it. And then I owe two grand to the tech and the light guy for the jobs that they did. And then I owe a grand out for the opening act. And then I've paid a grand worth of marketing and then a few other things on the side. And I was like, oh, I've lost like two or three grand. And I'm like, all right. Well, I've just achieved my dream. Like I've just done a theater. I've achieved my dream. I got offered a gig at the opera house. Wow. And I was like, all right, let's go. We're moving to Sydney. But we've got my mentor and we're doing this. Like I just came back from the States opening up for Burt. And I was like, yeah. So like I've just been on a private jet like flying from like Vegas to Salt Lake City. And I went to America with like $40. Again, I have no money. They paid me $200 a gig to gig in front of 4,000 people where like he's making, you know, crazy coin. But again, I know what it's like to have a theater and make no money, you know? So I'm just happy to be there. He was so generous. He was so lovely. And I'm like, we've done it. We're ready. This is everything I've ever dreamed of. Let's go. Lockdown. Yeah. And then everything got taken from me. All the gigs got canceled. Didn't get to do the opera house. Just moved over to Sydney. You know, I didn't really know anyone. You're like two or three people sleeping on some guy's couch. And now I'm locked in the house sleeping on this guy's couch. So now I'm like, you know, in his house like five months. And all I've got is this special recorded. So I just started chopping it up, putting it online. That kind of blew up. And then came out first, first festival season back at Fringe made twice as much money in that month than I made the year before. And I was like, oh, okay. We're here. You kept going. You kept going. You kept turning up. Yeah. Well, I mean, like that's the main thing. It's like, I love rap music. Like, I love him up, dude. I love him up so much. And there's a guy called Nipsey Hussle, who I really like. Respect, rest in peace. Yeah. Pour one out for dead homies. And he has... They've got sparkling water. Nipsey always loved sparkling water. I'm about it, but I'll put some bubbles in my tang. And he has this like the victory lap and like the marathon. And there's this great quote that he has. He's like, the only difference between me and everyone else is that I just didn't give up. I just kept going. And like, that's the main thing. Like, if you want to get to a certain point, just don't give up because eventually you'll get there. And like, I'm also lucky because comedy, there's no age limit. You know what I mean? It's not like rap or like music where like you want, like people want to see some young, cool, pretty person doing the thing while comedy is like, dude, no one's really going to put respect on your name until you're 40 anyway. You know, like you better get a divorce and like lose the house and like go through some trauma. So you have something to write about. It's funny. It's got to be relatable in comedy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, while music, it's kind of like, he's got to be bigger than the moment almost, you know, like to get on stage, give him lights, you know, put like some fireworks and paratechnics and people dancing and crazy visuals, you know, and you look at the musicians with awe and then you go to a comedy show and you're like, dude, if you come out there being arrogant or like up yourself, you'll get all the time right. Yeah. You'll hear about it real quick. Yeah. You got to get that time right. So 2021, you recovered? Yeah. 2021, I came out of the old Pandy Wendy because I was in Sydney for lockdown. So we were in lockdown for like five months, bro. That was rough. Came out. I've been writing heaps because I've been doing nothing else because of the main thing. I've been editing loads. Is that where you came up with the Peppa Pig thing? Well, I started doing that in 2014, I think. When I said 2015, I started like messing around with that kind of stuff. So it would have been like five years before any of that kind of took off as well. Because I think the first thing I was doing in Aussie Disney before I was doing Aussie Peppa Pig. And then I just ran out of movies. Like I'd done, I think I'd done like 40 or 50 Disney films to the point that I started having to do them again. And so the first one I did was Lion King. Yeah. And it was like Aussie Lion King. And it was like the at the start where it's like yeah. And and I basically I changed the song to just yeah. No fucking yeah. No fucking what do you reckon? No fucking what do you reckon? Yeah, no, yeah, no, yeah, no. And it was just that. And I remember that was the first one. I made a bunch of skits and stuff that I tried to do, which I guess were like vines, like early vine stuff. But they never took off. I must have made about 20 of those things. They never took off. And then I made that one. And yeah, like overnight my mate ran me up the next day. He's like, man, have you seen your video, your Facebook video? And I looked at it and I was like, man, we got 20,000 views. This is crazy. We got 20,000 views in one night. And like that's when like 20,000 views was still like huge. She's not where now it's like, but you know what I mean? Like people now have got like 400 million followers. Like this was like 10,000 followers was like a huge deal. So we got 20,000 views. I was like, this is crazy. I've got 20,000 views. He goes, nah, bro. He sent me this link and like Ladd Bible picked it up and it had 3.6 million like in 24 hours. And I was like, oh. And I was like, all right, cool. Let's start making more of these. And so I just kept making more of them. I did Aladdin and then I ended up like going all the way back to like Fantasia and like Robin Hood and Cinderella. And I was just making everything I could. And then they all were doing well. And I kind of ran out of movies. And I was like, oh man, what do I do now? And I said, I'll upload some standup. And that never really worked. And then I did a couple of pepper pigs and they start popping. And then when I was in the lockdown, I was like, I need money. I'm broke. I was like, I'll keep making these. And I was like, maybe I'll make some merch for it. And so I made some merch for these where I have no idea how I didn't get like sued or stopped for this. But I was just like, pepper pig on their cunt. Fuck you. And I slapped that on a t-shirt. And I reckon I sold like five or six stacks worth in like 24 hours during the pandemic. And I was like, yep, sick, we on. And so I just made, I tried to make one a week like through the whole thing. And then that took off. And then the standup took off. And I never put my Aussie pepper pig on TikTok. I only ever put it on Facebook and YouTube. And then I was like, maybe I should make a TikTok. And I go to, I go to TikTok. I'll make a TikTok. A little comedy, you know, like all my other stuff. Sorry, this username's taken. I'm like, wait, what do you mean it's taken? That's, that's me. And I go on there. Somebody had already started a TikTok, taken all of my stuff off my YouTube and just put it up as their own shit. And I was like, this crazy dude. Someone's jacked my name out of my videos. And so I had to make official Rory Lord comedy. And then I started putting my standup on it. And first video again, like 1.7. Amazing. And I went from like, in that five months while I've been in the house, I went from like 10,000 to a quarter of a million. And it was all from standup. There was no pepper pig. So I had this weird kind of transitionary period where I was like, well, we've been doing this now. First gig, high schools, 2009. And popped in standup wise 2021. So like almost 12 year gap since my first one. And so it's, you know, if you want to do the art thing and you want to do the thing, there's no orphanage, cheat code or anything. You just got to keep going. And eventually you'll find a voice or you'll find a way to move in. And you'll be like, oh yeah, this is where we're at. And then people go, oh, where'd you come from? You're like, bro, I've been stood outside. I've been stood outside in the rain waiting for you to open this door. That's it. And finally someone opened it up and you need to come in and you just, you dry it out in the sunshine now. I've got a sticker on my computer. It says it takes 10 years to become an overnight success. Yeah. That's like always there. And, you know, going through art and all that and just trying different things. I've noticed that a lot of the more successful comedians, the ones that haven't hit huge yet, they're popping off on social media doing random shit. There's this guy called Ben. I forget what his last name is. He's an American dude. And he trolls on Facebook. He makes like fake accounts for corporate businesses. Oh, I've seen this. Have you seen this guy? Yeah. There was like one for like Domino's or Wendy's and like he commented on somebody else's stuff. He's like, you're a piece of shit or whatever it is. And they're like, oh, I'm going to report this. I'm going to complain to like the. Yeah. His customer service is sometimes. Yeah. And then he makes a customer service account and goes, we don't give a shit. Like that stuff is well, Yorg. That's what I love about like comedy so much is it's just like, it takes, you've got to be so stupid to be a genius. Yeah. All the other way around. You've got to be such a genius to be stupid. Like it's either way. That's those are the best. Paris Hilton is an example. Oh, I mean, but it's like, not this. I mean, I don't really dive too much into the, the, like the, the, the Kimmy K's and the Paris Hillings and the Lindsay Law Hands and stuff. You know, but like when you look at like, like I love like Brooklyn Nine-Nine and like Archer and like, you know, Rick and Morty South Park. Like these things which are so intelligent, but are so dumb. And I'm like, man, you've got to be so smart to make something in this dump. Yeah. The human center iPad. I'm like, how the fuck can you come up with that? Oh dude, like the, the chat GPT's one that they just came out with. So it is classic. It's what I was saying. It's just like, oh, like the, the, the Harry and, Megan, Megan, like privacy world tour. You're like, and it's, and it's just like such crazy big topics that they challenge. And then they're like, all right, this crazy topic. It's so intense. All right. How many like fart dick jokes can we make? Can we fit in there? Yeah. It's like, oh, the gluten free one. Remember the gluten free one? The dick's blowing up. The dick explodes and flies around the room if you eat gluten now. You're like, bro, what an amazingly stupid way to make fun of a real shit, a very intellectual and like currently political issue. You're like, they're geniuses. They're absolutely geniuses. But they always have, I think it's the same with Rick and Morty, but they always have the four boys, they always have opposed opinions. So that before they get canceled, they're always counter-arguing it inside the episode. So they can't get canceled because if someone came out of them and like, well, yeah, we addressed that in the, in the thing. Someone was already offended in the episode. So you're that character. Yeah. So they did that very clever. It's, it's, it's so good, man. I love that stuff. Like I reckon South Park is the greatest like comedy piece of all time. Man, I'm just spewing that they've, the last two seasons have already been six episodes. Dude, I reckon every week I just go on Google and I'm like, is there a new episode? Like is it, when's it coming out? When's it coming out? And it's, I don't even care. Like, you know what I mean? Like I could, I would wait, like, I would wait, like I would watch one episode every six months. If they released only one every six months and I'd be watching it the night it came out. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they have a TikTok account and I see a clip. I'm like, like, I haven't seen this before. Oh dude, when they're straight onto the internet, watch the whole episode. Yeah. Bro, have you seen the clips of them like doing the voices? Oh yeah. With his daughter? Oh my Lord, bro. You're like, oh, it's so good that this episode's already out. Like if you were doing like, like here's what I was making this new video and it's him like pretty much just like pulling his eyes back and doing like an Asian voice into a microphone and then getting this like four-year-old child to be like, say, you're a stupid bitch. And she's like, you're a stupid bitch. And it's just him cracking laughing. You're like, man, if you did that now and put that on the internet, it took that child away from me. Yeah, exactly. But like it's just funny. Yeah. And it's so perfect. And the fact that like it's 26 seasons now, I think the first episode, the first episode aired in the 90s. I think it was in 98 or 99. Yeah. Maybe 12 to 10 in 99. Yeah, Jamie, pull that up. 97. 97. Yeah. To have that consistently go to where it's at now is incredible. Same as Family Guy that they're still. They're still going. Yeah, never really. That's the new Family Guy. Yeah, he's still a new Family Guy. And their new episodes are actually really good. Like they still take the piss. The South Park episode about Family Guy, like when they're like the walruses. Yeah, there's like a walrus or a manatee, like in a big tank. And there's just a bunch of balls with topics on them. And it's just like cut scenes. And that's how they make the show. And it's like, you've gotten like, there's two shorts battling for who's the funniest show. And you've gone, let's make a whole episode about how stupid the other show is. It's like the balls on you, bro. Everybody wins. So the exact opposite of like, what a corporate battle with brands. It's like, never acknowledged the competition where they're just like, fuck man, you're taking them on. How Pepsi did it. They're like, and there's this cola brand, and it's a distinct red and fucking white Coke can. It's just like, we know it's Coke, but I know you can't say that. You get sued. But I talk about this every time we have a comedian on. How we're going full circle, right? So we're at PC now, real PC shit. Everybody's offended. Ricky Gervais says, stop saying that this is offensive. Say that you're offended. This isn't offensive. You're offended. You could just say you don't like it. Yeah. You know what I mean? But let's go along, you know? But what I'm trying to say is we're going full circle, right? The comedians, especially like Andrew Schultz, like he's one of my favorites right now because he just goes, I don't give a fuck. Yeah. And I feel like we're about to push through a barrier now where it's going to be okay again. I feel like, I don't feel like there was ever really an issue. Like, I mean, like there's certain, I think I saw, I saw a really, I saw a really good conversation. I can't remember exactly who it was talking about it. I think it might have been Seinfeld. And he was, he's talking about like political correctness. And he's like, political correctness. Now people go, oh, it's gone mad. You can't say anything anymore. And it's like, what the problem is, I think with a lot of comics is when they start, you know, they watch Schultz or they watch Spielberg or they watch like Jess or Nick or whatever, because most people's sense of humor like is quite dark at the start because it's the easiest kind of like knee-jerk reaction to get every action. So at least you do not, not in silence. But like, if you're going to tackle issues like race or like transgenderism or like anything that's like, you know, tumultuous to navigate through, you better be good enough to talk about it. But you don't have the skills yet. And so a lot of people come in and go, oh, he can't say anything anymore. It's like, yeah, you can say all this stuff. Like, you know, CK had the N-word joke. Like Schultz has had N-word jokes. Neil Brennan's had N-word jokes. Like, so many white dudes have had N-word jokes. And like, you know, they've also done transgender jokes. They've also done gay jokes. But they are good enough because they went through all the other stuff beforehand, like going to the shops or like, my mom said this or like, aren't kids the darnest? And they went through that whole process to get to a level where they were skilled enough to now tackle a very difficult subject. And so they can talk about it. But if you're just starting, like, you're not good enough to tackle those subjects because they're heavy subjects. It's like, you don't go into the gym and just go, I'm doing 100 kilos on the bench press. So you start with the bar and you've got to work your way up to a point. Go do the reps. Yeah. And like, I think a lot of people go, oh, political correctness has ruined a comedy. It's like, no, you're ruining comedy with your shitty comedy. Get better and then start, like, and then tackle these big issues. Because you can say anything, man. You just got to be not a dick. Yeah, requires skill and nuance. All right. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like, I mean, what is it? Let's just say, like, walkism kind of kicked off in what? 2010. Let's just say proper, like, really started going there because we were all saying, calling each other gay and, you know, the F word and all that jazz, like where we were in high school. And then we kind of left high school and then, you know, like, me too movement kind of kicked in. And there was all sorts of stuff going on. That was when, like, Tyler, the creator was about, like, OG Tyler, like, ways like talking about, like, killing himself and like, like, raping people. And, like, that's what his, that's what his, like, content was when he was, like, when Bastard and Goblin and Wolf, those first three albums were out. And so he was still doing that. Like, he had the song Radical, which was, like, kill people, like, burn shit, fuck school. That was the hook, you know? And, like, children are singing it. And, like, Eminem was doing what he was doing. Oh, yeah. You know, there was, like, all these things. There's examples throughout the whole history of people during these times where people can't say anything, saying way more hectic shit than they were saying before, because they were good enough to be able to do it. And there was also the market as well, because people were like, well, I don't want to join that other thing. I want to do this. And pendulum swinging back. Yeah, I think people are probably a bit fed up with the conversation, you know? But at the end of the day, I think it's all positive. I think, you know, if, you know, the whole message behind walkism and moving forwards was, like, hey, guys, maybe let's try and be nicer to everyone. You know? And I'm happy with that. I think that's a good thing. Yeah. Like, if you're offended, you're offended. But, you know, sometimes it's nice to offend someone, because then you get to look at your own self and go, oh, maybe, maybe some of my jokes are a bit on the nose. Maybe they do need work. Maybe I can look back at it. I mean, there's some people that should just shut the fuck up as well. You know, like, there's a few people on Facebook, you're like, mate, just get off Facebook, go outside, go eat a cookie, pat a dog. Yeah. You know, like, go try to be happy. I mean, like, I go into the videos on Instagram and Instagram is an absolute war zone in the comment section. Like, people are savage. I don't look at comments, so I look at my own comments. Yeah, I look at them like, sometimes you can smell. Sometimes you can smell the comments when you, if you're like, oh, I'm going to go to the comments just to validate my thoughts. Yeah. These people are pieces of shit like me. But you go on TikTok. It's a little bit more safe, inclusive. Yeah. I mean, it isn't like, I feel like TikTok, it's like, every time you open the comment section, like, it's only one side of an argument. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you open it up and it's either everyone going, oh my God, I love this. This is so amazing. Or it's just the other side where they go, you're a piece of shit. And it's just like, this isn't how you thought this was going to get a response, you know? Like, and I put out a video a couple of weeks ago and it's done very well. It's like one of the bigger ones I've got at the moment. And it's about like pregnancy and like accidental pregnancy because that's one of my fears, you know? And you're scared of getting pregnant. I'm scared of getting pregnant. I mean, anything can happen right now, you know, 2020 is rigged. But like, it's about me, my girlfriend, and like, you know, we get serious stuff. I'm like, do our kids. You're not one kids. And my mom told me one time, two of us out of the five were accidents. So the whole joke's about accidental pregnancy. Did she tell you which ones? She doesn't. She still hasn't. Smart. The first one and the last one. The first one and the last one always brought what it is. We know. We all know. And so I have this joke in it. We're basically being, and I'm like, it's not like, it's basically talking about like pulling out. And I'm like, oh, it's just not a joke. It's a funny joke. And all the comments started that were like, oh, yeah. You know, hey, funny. This funny couple of times, some emojis. And then after like a week, it started getting into, yeah, well, pulling out is not actually very safe method. And then it goes on to like, yeah, men are actually kind of disgusting for doing this there. And it's just evolved into this like huge, like argumentative forum about, about pregnancy. And you're like, all right, cool. Like this is supposed to be sex ed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like I wasn't, I wasn't trying to teach you guys something. I was like, you can actually pinpoint like, because sometimes videos go viral a second time. Yeah. Just somehow. And sometimes, I mean, you kind of have to time it or do it, preempt it. But in the first seven to 14 days, you can take a snapshot of the analytics of which countries have been most popular in. And then if it starts to go re-viral, you can go back to those analytics and have a look. And you can calculate which countries have boomed. Yeah. It's always a different place. Yeah. I, a lot of people in India don't like me. Yeah. Yeah. Like I have a pretty decent follow in Sweden. People in Sweden like me. Probably because I look like I'm f***ing up. Yeah, you look like a Nordic man. But I made this joke and I got like, like 10% of my following is from India, which is great because it's a different country. You know, let me expose new things. But also it kind of sucks because people think I bought some of my followers now. Because like every now and then, like a bunch of my comments have just been from Indian people. And I'm like, it looks like I bought these people. Suspiciously high-awaiting. Yeah. Yeah. It's like there's a lot of machines coming in on Rory's stuff. And so I made this joke because I did some shows in Pakistan. Right. And while we were there, we let learn a bunch about the history of Pakistan and like, you know, we're just museums, we're on tours and stuff like that. And we found out that Pakistan and India were the same country like back in the day. And when the English came over and colonized it and put them in a position, they kind of fell out. The country split and like, you know, basically the joke is whenever I like talk to someone and I'm like, where are you from? And they go, India. I'm like, awesome. I have this joke in my head where I go, oh, that's cool. I've been to Pakistan once and the whole crowd just goes, like, oh, he's racist. That's not the same place. And I'm like, well, it used to be the same place, didn't it? And always the Indian person is like, yeah, it actually used to be the same country. And I'm like, yeah. And then you guys fell out like you had beef, right? And then I go, well, you didn't have beef. You're Indian. Because the main difference between India and Pakistan is obviously that Pakistanis like they eat meat while, you know, the Indians like worship cows and they don't eat beef. And it's a smart joke. It's a high level joke. Yeah. Right over the white people's head. Yeah. Yeah. And some people love the joke. So I put this on Instagram. Instagram, all the comments all from Indian people and Pakistani people have been like, this is so funny. This is amazing. And they're writing more things in there, like telling me more about their history. And I'm like, oh, cool. Engagement. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like learning about like how like some pilot from like Pakistan, like during like one of their wars like crashed and like ended up in India. And like instead of them putting him in prison, they're like, took him back to like chill at one of the houses and like made him some tea. Must have been a Buddhist one. Yeah. So they're like, oh man, like, do you know the story about the tea? And so there's like 1000 comments being like, the tea, the tea story, tea. I'm like, what's this? I looked it up. I was like, oh, I've learned some cool stuff. And then I put it up on like TikTok. And again, it must have hit the wrong side. And they're like, yeah, the reason they split up is because of you, you English piece of shit. Colonize are you white dog? And I'm like, oh, okay, cool. All right. Didn't learn anything from this. Yeah. My bad guys. Sorry. I won't do it again. Oh, I'm white. Oh, I'm the devil. I wasn't, I wasn't around back then, but yes, please like me for, you know, all the, all the wrong doings. And that's, that's another example of like people, people being going, oh, yeah, you know, I'm offended at this joke. And you're like, yeah, but it's not, you know, it's not. Well, it's like, it's like a sick clip of a U.S. guy went to different colleges dressed as different, like stereotypical ethnicities. That's a great clip. And then going back to like those, like, Oh yeah, the Mexican. I mean, like, oh, like the Chinese, like, like, he's like, how do I look? And she's like, you look really nice. Thank you. And then you go to the college. It's like, it's really offensive. You're like appropriating their culture. And it's like, they like it. They love it. Yeah. Yeah, they love it. I mean, to a certain extent, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like not sticky taping your eyes. I can't go to, I can't go to a Mexican restaurant and eat their food, you know. Yeah, like I'm not going to black up and go to Harlem. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, so now that you're, you've been around, you've been to America, Pakistan, India. You've been to India? No, I haven't done a gig in India. I've done, I've done America, Pakistan, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, England, Scotland, so like the UK. What was being home like? Like in England, in England, I do. I really don't like England. Okay. The people all the country. Just like the country and a lot of the people men sometimes. Like there's, there's just such a level of like patriotism. Someone's clipping the shit out of this and putting it out of Congress, by the way. He's like, I hate English people. You're fucked. I'm the one clipping it. You're fucked. No, there's like, there's just a level of patriotism. I don't, I don't really like patriotism and like nationalism. Like I like pride in your country. I like, I like you being like, oh, I support my country, stuff like that. But I think England kind of has this like post like empire kind of like arrogance. I don't get the whole obsession with monarchy. Yeah, I do. I, I don't. Why? I really don't. Like vicariously living through someone that's just been spawned in with everything. I mean, you can clip this. I've been caught beyond this one, but I don't want to get run by a country by a bunch of inbred pedos. You know what I mean? Like I don't. And that's what it is. Like there's two arguments when it comes to the monarchy, right? People go, oh, well, I mean, they don't actually do anything. We have like a prime minister and we kind of elect him and he makes most of the decision. And they've delegated their work to some guy. So it like, you know, they don't even really do anything. So they don't have any power. So they're okay. Well, it's like, well, if they don't do anything, why do we still have them? Why do they live in a gold plated castle and have all these jewels and crowns where people can't pay their electrical bills? And all these old people who have been jipped out their pension and can't afford food? Yeah. Like why is that the situation? I agree. And it's like, all right, cool. Well, that's one argument being debunked. And then the other argument is, well, actually they do lords of stuff and they still are pulling big strings behind the scenes. And they're actually quite influential. And it's a great thing. And you're like, well, if they're doing that, why are we being led by one particular family that seems to keep it all in themselves? Like it's Game of Thrones. And then we have no, like sort of electoral or democratic kind of saying it. It's pretty much just a dictatorship, but instead of one guy, it's a family. And you're like, all right, cool. So both of those arguments that people have say that we shouldn't have them or don't need them. And like, let's be honest, the only reason we still have them is tourism. Like that's that's all it is. It's like you want to come to Buckingham Palace. You want to look at the thing that England needs to make tourism that has some sort of like money income. It's only 50 million pounds. What is the tourism for a royal family? I looked it up. Is that what it is? 50 million. It's only 50 million pounds, which seems like, fuck all. That's still something. Hang on, I'm about to search how much their tax cuts are. Yeah, I do. Like they're not paying tax, bro. No, no, no, my house they avoid. Oh, yeah, man. I mean, like all like literally everything that all the all the all the jewels on the crown are all stolen from Africa, man. Like, you know what I mean? All the artifacts in the museum are all stolen from Egypt or like, you know, wherever there are. No. English people just really good at stealing shit. So where's a country that you've you've always wanted to go and do a gig at? You haven't yet? I want to go to Japan. Oh, you want to go to Japan? I think that would be cool. I want to go to Austria. I want to go to Vienna and I want to go to Egypt. I want to go see the pyramids. Yeah. Yeah. I got a lot. I like I love Egypt like mythology. Good architecture there. Yeah. Yeah, dude. There's some crazy stuff. Do you have theories of how they did that? The pyramids. Yeah. And I guess I'm one of the guys that's like, I reckon they built it ages ago and then there was some sort of like natural disaster and just sent everyone back into the like the stormage. No, I meant like how they can. Oh, so yeah. So they got up to the level of intelligence. I reckon they were smarter than us. Like a reset. Yeah. I reckon too many work people and then they were like, fuck this reset. I reckon that they probably had a civilization that was just as advanced as this. Like they, I reckon they had like microphones and like, you know, rockets and all sorts and they were driving around in cars or some version of that. Just with a lot more slavery. Well, that's the, I don't think, I don't really even think they had slavery. Like, I mean, if say someone found our society now, you know what I mean? And they were like, oh, who built this thing? The only way they could have done this. And the only way they could have done this is like, well, how do they do it? It's like, oh, well, they got a bunch of people and they were like, oh, we're going to get them from this time to this time and we're going to make them do it. And like, if you look at our kind of what we're doing at the moment, it's like, you know, minimum wage, working class. The matrix. You know, the matrix. Yeah. Like give that give that another 50 years. Let's say we get a little bit more advanced. So we get AI and stuff like that. Right. And now there's just a bunch of people out of work who need stuff. You, we get lucky. We create some sort of universal income and like blah, blah. Like you've got a bunch of people that are working. Make them feel like they're free. Yeah. Make them feel like they're free. Like we don't like everyone's like, oh, yeah. You know, like in everyone's heads, like everyone's just wearing a long cloth, getting whipped. You know what I mean? Like in ancient Egypt, where you're like, really? You think that we're getting, you really reckon that we're getting? Whipped. Now it's whipped by Hextet in indexation. Yeah. Like, I mean, like, let's be honest. Like, like you find a railroad here. That's how we did it. You know what I mean? Like you find any, any big mine that we dug gold out of, that's pretty much how we did it. Like we look at what we did to like the indigenous and the Japanese and the Chinese to get pearls out of, out of the, out of the broom in the north, north, west. Like we've, we've been doing all that shit for years anyway. It's the same as what they've been doing. It's still a good track record, eh? Yeah. Yeah. Sure. And so I reckon genuinely, I think the pyramids were built by like a very advanced civilization. And then I think there was some sort of natural disaster, like a global kind of cataclysm thing, some global warming stuff that kind of like wiped out technology. Like it could say a big earthquake or a big tidal wave hits us. Like, do you know how this thing works? Yeah. Do you think you know how you, you reckon you could build a microphone? Or a computer? Yeah. Or like a light bulb. Yeah. I don't know how anything works, bro. Yeah, you just go to the shop. Yeah, exactly. But there ain't none left now, you know? Shops, shops, clothes, shops under water. And so it's not just a bunch of dudes in a cave trying to make fire again. Very true. You know? And I think that's all that happened. I think there was just a little bit of a climate reset. And like all these crazy cool structures had already been built from these societies that were already quite far ahead. Like you look at how immaculate those things are and Sphinx is. All the Mayans as well. The Mayans and like the Easter Island heads. And like, what is it? Rockingham train station. Globy techie. What, how do you pronounce it? Globy a techie or something like that. It's, it's like all, it's all in the, all in the pyramids. It's like 5,000 years older than the pyramids. And it's like still this whole, this, it's called a Ghibli or techie or something like that. Well, they figured out that this is my like prediction. But the stone, the rock formations, the pyramids made of all of that resource, they knew it would disintegrate a lot. It would take a lot longer to disintegrate. Yeah, it's made out of granite. It's made out like, and granite lasts longer than anything else in the, in the world. Yeah. So like, and then, but if we have our towers, they're made of glass and they're made of aluminium and steel and shit. That disintegrates a lot quicker. Oh dude, like the only evidence that we were here is probably like heaps of plastic bags. You know what I mean? Like that's probably, like that's probably the heaps. Yeah, yeah, it's just a bunch of, bunch of vapes. You know, like 20,000 years that we dig it stuff up. Like, oh, look at this, this slave tool that they had, you know, like, no man, we were just puffing on those bad boys all day long. Yeah, the, and my grandpa, he, he always said, like, this is a bit morbid, but make the tombstones out of this rock and chisel the rock because they'll be there later than everybody else. Yeah, granite man, granite. It's the, it's the most like, it's the strongest material. It doesn't decay over time. Like that's what the pyramids made up. But build, build a granite tower here. How much would that cost more than, you know, the, the towers are making now? Oh yeah. Yeah. And like that's why we make out of like glass and steel because it's cheaper than like getting stone basin to come in and do the thing. And like you look at the, I love, I love this man. He's just like, just two white dudes on a podcast talking about the pyramids. But yeah, I like, that's why I want to go. I want to look at the pyramids. I like, I like, I still love architecture so much. And that's why I want to go to like Austria. I want to go to Vienna because that's where modern architecture pretty much is a birth from. Like all of the coolest stuff all kind of came from Austrian architects. I mean, the Greeks did it as well. And yeah, I, so now that you're, now that you're here, now that we're all that shits behind us, hopefully, going forward, going back to Sydney, doing your tours and that where do you kind of see yourself in terms of your goals in the next kind of 12 months beyond? Yeah. Like next two years, I want to start, I want to be doing theaters again. I want to, I want to be able to do with a sold out theater, a thousand people in each city. Yeah. Maybe not Adelaide or Hobart because they just don't buy tickets. I swear to God, but I'm like, I'm like about to cancel my shows in Adelaide because it's like, it's like the biggest room and the whole two are. And I think I've sold two tickets. Like there's like five tickets left for Perth, five tickets left for like Gorkos, five tickets left for Melbourne, Brisbane, Sydney, like we're adding extra shows for like all these cities. And then Adelaide's like, you have sold 1% of your tickets. What do you think that is? Do you have like a funny theory for Adelaide? I feel like it's just different kettle of fish, you know what I mean? Like cause Sydney and like Gorkos, Brisbane, Melbourne, like there's stuff going on, you know what I mean? Well, I feel like. Adelaide's got nothing. I feel like Adelaide doesn't have much. And also I don't feel like they have a way of even finding out, you know what I mean? I don't even know if they got reception out there, but I swear to God, like, because you go in March, if you want to go to Adelaide, go in March. Oh, it's amazing. It's the best place to be in the whole country is Adelaide in March. What is that? Fringe Festival, War Mad Festival, like the V8 Supercars, like there's a bunch of music festivals on. There's Riders Festival, there's like Flower Festival, like they put every cultural event in one month from the whole year. And they put it, they put it in, they call it Mad March. And so like people fly in, they close the streets down, like they close the whole city down, like they barricade it off so no cars can come in. And they just have street performer festival and busking festivals. And so it's just this vibrant, huge city with like, they have a vivid, they have their own vivid, like light festival going on at the same time. It's incredible. Have you seen a one-off show in March then? Yeah, pretty sure. And then hit a buzz there. And then when you do another national tour, they'll remember you hopefully. Yeah. For Tasmania, Hobart, I don't have a clue. I love the place. Dude, Hobart has some of the best food in the whole giant. And like it's... And it's not that expensive either. It's pretty cheap. It's beautiful too, man. It's like, it's like, it's, it's, it's stuck in like this perfect time almost. Like people just chilling and walking around, similar to Perth, but it's got like a different style of weather and it's very hilly and it's beautiful. Yeah. I feel like I'm like, every time I go to like Tazi, I'm like, I'm back in the 80s. I love Hobart. I need, I need to get a team of teams and we're all going to get some BMXs and we're going to stop a golf course from getting built on our parents' blocks, you know what I mean? Like I feel like I'm in the Goonies. Every time I go, go to Hobart. Yeah. Once you, once you start your sellout shows again, the next two years, and then obviously international again. Yeah. And what is your kind of like plan from there? I mean, obviously I live day by day in these days and whatever happens, happens. Do you have like an ultimate goal? Yeah. So it's going to sound like very, very, I guess, like basic, but it's like, I want to, I just want to have a room with a whiteboard in it and like along, yeah, you've already got one here, like a long table with just a bunch of funny people at like side of this table and I want to stand in front of them all and go, this is our idea. This is what we're going to do. Let's all do this thing. And like, I want to make cartoons. Like I really want to make cartoons. I've already wrote scripts for cartoons and stuff like that. And like, that's kind of where I want to have, like I want to be able to do like, maybe, you know, 20 or 30 big theater shows across wherever, you know, maybe three a weekend for what, 10 weeks. That's, you know, that's your work. That's my comedy. And then for the rest of time, just kind of sit around and just like shoot ideas off with a bunch of creative people. We're like, all right, well, now we've got this. Let's pass on this fleshed out idea to whoever makes the thing. You know what I mean? Like, he's, he's the framework and the jokes and the structure. Like, here's how I want it drawn. Like, here's the thing. There you go. I guess AI computers go make the thing now. Like that's the level that I would love to be at. Yeah, just to have creative freedom and financial freedom. Like I don't want. I mean, it would be nice to do a stadium show, you know, once, it'd be nice to do 45, 40,000 people. As Trissie said, I want to see 40,000 people just to see what I'm on. But like, I don't want that all the time. You know what I mean? No, I don't. Like Kevin Hart, Esk fame. No, thank you. That's just too much. Like even looking at like the Sidemen and KSI and like Logan Paul. And you're like, you see that they're closing down streets with like, you know, people coming or I don't need. It'd be fun once, but it'd be madness all the time. I'm like, I go to junior lab shops and I'm like, everyone just stops and just like lines up and takes photos. Yeah. It's crazy. And like that's awesome. That's great. It's great. Yeah. But like the last thing you want is like two things. You don't want your whole life to be impacted to the point where like, you no longer have your life. You're just everyone else's disposal. Yeah. And you don't want to come down from it. Yeah. Like the Bojack Horseman lifestyle, bro. I don't want that. You know, I don't want to be so high up. And then obviously, you know, someone else has got to come and take that. And then someone else got to come and take that. You know, you can't just be on top forever. You kind of want to play with house money. And if something pops, you're like, great. Cool. But I don't give a fuck. Yeah. I've got the same similar goals. I would love to be cameo level famous. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like not like movie star famous, but just like, man, this guy keeps popping up in all these kind of things. Like T-Pain sort of shit. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like you could see like, you wouldn't know it's T-Pain. You know what I mean? You know, when someone's watching something, you're like, oh, that's the guy from, ah, what is it? Ah, what is it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I want people come on to be like, oh, you're the dude from the thing. Yeah. I don't want people to be like, oh my God, Robbie Law. I love doing this, this, this, this, this, this. I don't want everyone to do that. Kind of like Adam Sandler's mates in every one of his movies. Yeah. I'd love to be like Rob Schneider or like David Spade, like level. Yeah. You know, even though I guess like they were fucking huge at one point. Yeah. But like, I don't want to be Adam Sandler famous. No. No. No. I mean, it'd be cool to be in a movie. I'd love to be in a movie or like a TV show or something like that. It'd be cool. But also like, I've been on sets before. Like it's not fun. No. Like hours. Oh dude, acting is awful. Like I've even filmed, like even just like for like commercials and stuff. I've filmed commercials and they're like, all right, cool. You know, go to this. This is now just wait here for four and a half hours while we do this other thing. But don't go anywhere because we might need you. And don't touch your face. Don't touch anything. And like, hey, be quiet. Like don't make any noise because we can hear you. And then get a caravan. Not even have a caravan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like it. It'd be fun to do a couple of times. But I definitely wouldn't want to be in forever. But that's now, you know, my goals might change. Yeah. So you got, you got the kids listening and, you know, aspiring to become young comedians or creatives or maybe even architects. And what's the overall advice that you would give to a young fella, young or young Sheila coming up to, you know, just keep going. Have fun. Yeah. That's the main thing. Just have fun. If you have fun, everything will fall into place. Yeah. 100%. Everything would fall into placement because that's it. That's all, that's all it's all about. That's why you did it in the first place because you enjoyed it and you liked it. And so if you maintain a childlike energy towards the thing that you enjoy doing, you will never, you'll never lose that and you'll never, you'll never really struggle because you're like wherever you're at, you're going to enjoy it. Yeah. How do you battle the bell curve of doing something for fun, enjoying it, getting good at it and then getting to the top, which is in my opinion, you start becoming a professional. You're getting paid for it. And then from there, you kind of got two ways to go about it. You keep going with that, get more and more money and then people are in demand of you to perform, to deliver. Yeah. And then it no longer feels like you're passionate anymore. How do you navigate that? I don't know. I guess my personality is kind of just like, I just want to have fun. Like, I don't know when I'm going to go. Like one of my best friend, Lucas, he died like a couple of years ago. Like, you know, he was young, he was like, you know, 26 and like crashed his car into a tree. You know what I mean? Like just that one day I woke up message like from like his German girlfriend who like barely speaks English. It's like, Lucas dead, car crashed, neck broke, sorry. Like that was the message. And I'm like, wow. And I'm just like out like with my mates. And like one of those things, it's just like, I don't know when I'm going to go, man. And I don't know what's going to happen. And I don't know when it's going to happen. And so like, all I want is at the end of the day. It's like, you know, when I've got all those people are like around like the funeral is I just want them all go, man, he took it. He took everything like he lived his life. He had so much fun. He didn't miss a minute of fun. And that's all, that's all I want. And if you put too much pressure on yourself and too much expectation to be this like great thing, this ambition and this ideology you have of what you want. Like you're going to lose the fun. You know, if you want to be Kevin Hart, you know, if you want, like I want stadiums. I want people to see this. I want, I want all these people to see how good I am. You're going to, you're going to hate it. Yeah. You know, because that's not, that's not the reason you should be doing it. That's not your why. Like your why should be, I love this or I'm doing it for this reason. You know, like I want to change, I want to change the world. I want to influence people. I want to have fun. You know, I want to make people's lives happier. It shouldn't be I want this and I need this. That those wants and needs should be a consequence of the fun. Yeah, the byproduct. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I believe. That's excellent. Well, that's a good note to leave it on. And let's, let's do the official plug. How do we come and purchase the two remaining tickets for the cities and the other 99% still available in Adelaide? Even if you're not in Adelaide, just buy some tickets for Adelaide, dude. You know what I mean? Just buy some tickets for Adelaide. Help a guy out. Yeah. Do the 50 cent thing. Yeah. And I would love one of my enemies to just go about, oh, we bought out the whole like front row for Adelaide. I'm stucked. I'm stucked. Now, all my tickets are at www.rorylawcomedy.com. I'm here in Perth on the 25th of July. And I reckon that's going to sell out in like the next week or two. Easy. Especially when the podcast drops. Yeah. Yeah. Big dog. In the, in the description, all you need is in there. So pop that in and go see. And if you are younger and you do want to come, I'm pretty certain for the Perth one. If you come with a parent, you're okay. Okay. Yeah. So it's like MA15 plus, I guess. Yeah. It's in a pub, but like kids can go in there and eat food. So like, I guess, like, you know, it's the comedy club upstairs at the, at the Brizzy. So it's at Oasis. So kids can go in there and eat with their family. So I assume they can come upstairs and watch the show. And it's the early one as well here. So it's like 630 star, I think. What are your supporting acts? I haven't booked, I haven't booked any yet, but I'll probably get Wolfie on for Perth. And if I do two, I'll probably get Wolfie on for one. And then, I don't know, Amo, if he's in town, I'd be like Amo. But I'm trying to, I'm trying to get support, different support act for every show. And what's really nice, man, is like, a few people hit me up. Like, like, yeah, a few open micers, like the Gold Coast and like, even someone, even motherfucking Adelaide hit me up. I was like, man, like, can you just buy a ticket and come instead? You buy a ticket, I'll consider you. So just, just to extend a little bit now from some more ideas I have, I don't have to go anywhere, but I'm usually asleep still. Excellent. So if you have an open mica approach you to open for you, what are the three things that get you across the line saying, yeah, no problem, let's give it a crack? Well, first thing, just ask. Okay. Because like most like, that's how I got a lot of gigs that I never thought I'd get. So I was just, I just ask. I'd like, what I used to do is I used to, like, I would like try and open up for Dave Chappelle when I was like three years in. Shoot your shot. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I understand. Like I'd go, it's a lot easier now because I linked in. You can go on, I'll go on LinkedIn and just find out who's doing the tour managing or like who's doing the production company or whoever's coming in and then just email them and be like, hey, I'm this person. I do comedy. He's a, he's a video like I'd love to open up or if not, I would love to hang out or show you around the city or whatever. So the modern day demo tapes. Yeah, pretty much. And just stand outside the front of that, that record executive's house and keep playing your tunes for him. And I reckon I must have messaged like 20 major comics that came, like we're coming to Perth. And then 2017, I got to open up for Bert. So I reckon I was emailing people for like two years, like Dave Chappelle, like Bill Burr, Bert Kreischer, like Flight of the Concord. It's like anyone that was coming. I just hit them up, see if I can get on and eventually, you know, one of them hit. And then he took you around. Yeah. And then he took us around. It's all it takes. Shoot your shot, show up, keep posting, keep trying and ask. Yeah. Always, yeah, ask. Ask the main thing. There's not like a list of things like, oh, say this word or like, you know, be this or do this. It's like, just keep asking. Yeah. Like all met, Mark Normans in town right now. And a fantastic comic called James McCann. He's opening up for him for the whole thing. And he messaged me like maybe a year ago. He was like, man, I'm trying to get this gig with this guy. Like, how did you get yours with all mate? And I was like, oh, this is what I did. He's like, man, that's so simple. You just asked him. I was like, yeah, dude. He's like, oh my God. And then, you know, like six months later, he's got this gig now. And I don't know how he's got it specifically, but I know that he's been sending emails around and trying to get these things. And now he's in that spot. So like, just keep doing your own thing. Keep working hard and keep asking. Because if you eventually do get the opportunity, you also need to be good enough to rise to the occasion. Yeah, absolutely. You need to have the good product, but then you start marketing it. If it's a good product already, it comes in clutch. And that's 10 years of organized success. You work on that thing for 10 years. And then one day, someone gives you a shot. And then everyone goes, man, you just made it in one night. You're like, nah, I worked in the dark for 10 years. You know, I wrote for 14 hours off a couch, you know, with like cockroaches like going around and rats going around. And I did, you know. And then one day you get your shot. You take your shot. You're like, man, I came from the start from the bottom, baby. And then you end up where you're at. And it all looks so easy when you look back on it. Yeah. Yeah. Who's your greatest comic of all time? Patrice O'Neill. Yeah. No one knows who he is. No. No, it's called Patrice O'Neill. He's got a special on YouTube. It's called the elephant in the room. His hands down the best special I've ever seen in my entire life. Guys, he's like Jay-Z. He'd never wrote a joke down. He'd never wrote. He just went for it. He just got up there and just said the truth. And like he's one of the guys that like, like when we, when you talk about political correctness and people being like, you can't say that, this guy, he was like, I'm just telling the truth all the time. And if you get mad at it, you get mad at it, but it's the truth. So that's your issue. Exactly. Exactly. I love that. Mine, mine would be, I grew up on Jim Carrey movies. Yeah. Jim Carrey all time. And now he's like kind of all this like super, I like supernatural being. I love that shit. And the other one's Robin Williams. He's always, he's always wanting to just, just pull a joke out no matter what the situation. And if you look at both of those dudes, all they want to do is have fun. Yeah. Like all they want to do is have fun. That's it. So I'll take kids, go have fun, enjoy yourself, live your life. Shout out to Rory for being here and good luck on the tour. Shout out to this. How'd you find Hunt and Brew? Yeah, it's good. It's good. It's just, you know, it's just milk. A bit of coffee in there. Yeah, it's milk and coffee. I was like, oh, now a little spicy water, a little spicy water. Bit of static water. As always, shout out to Bright Tank on the, on the left nip there. Hit them up if you're in Perth or just trial their beers. Nationally award-winning now with the Best Lager in Australia. So, you know, shout out to them. And yeah, go see Rory. If you don't, go watch him online and buy his Adelaide tickets. And if you have any questions about the episode on the Spotify, you can now comment. If you don't have a Spotify, go on to YouTube. If you don't have YouTube, then the fuck. All right? Thanks for having me, man. No worries. Good thanks.