 Being able to communicate value outside of the music stuff that you might have a lot of people tend to forget about those things Oh, I'm just a manager at I don't know some clothing store I don't see how that ties in the music But it's someone the other side like it might show that you're good with organization or you know how to run a team or something like that Right, so all those things are how can you kind of build your value and build these skill sets that people kind of just want To see you get but then like what of these other things been teaching you that could be valuable over here But what's one of the things we always talk about with music is they're more than glad to pull people from other industries because a lot of times A lot of these music businesses don't have some of the most like serious infrastructure that some like other industries have