 Hey everyone, welcome back to the Nintendo Prime podcast. I think this is episode five of the new season. I don't know, I'm pretty sure it's episode five. We have a lot of in-between conversation pieces, but welcome back to the podcast guys. I am your host as always. Nathaniel Ruffeljantz, Mr. Nintendo Prime. Across the table from me is Eric Moore. Hello. My best friend and co-host. And then up on the Giant TV, if you are watching on the video version is Ms. Holly Wolfe. Hello, hello. So for those who might not know who Holly Wolfe is because I have no idea what audience crossovers are like and all of that. She is a gamer, she is a live streamer, she is a cosplayer, she is a former playboy-playmate. All these things, it gets a little dicey sometimes. I don't want all you young kids out there fapping away. She is, she is a spoken for woman. Oh lord. She is spoken for. Be respectful. Oh my. I'm sure you've dealt with plenty of that stuff over the years. Oh, oh so much. Yeah, yeah, I can only imagine. Unfortunately, my dad bod over here isn't doing it for the ladies right now, so. Oh no. I'm also spoken for, so it doesn't really matter. All right, so we got a couple of cool conversations and I actually want to start off by talking about cosplay because we've never really had anyone on the podcast that specifically does cosplay. So it's kind of like an interesting scene because the only time I've personally seen any cosplayers in person are at events like E3. Otherwise, I don't even have a lot of experience with it. I just kind of enjoy from afar. One of your favorite cosplays for me is the Breath of the Wild Zelda one that you did. Yes. It's my favorite game of all time. And your face is like the perfect face for Princess Zelda. So. Oh wow, thank you. I actually, I remember cosplaying Zelda. I was really scared to do it the first time because it means a lot to me. So I was really, really, really picky. And oh my God, I remember people on my video who it worked really hard for. We even had a friend of mine do all the vocals herself for the song and everything like Zelda's lullaby. But I remember a few people in the comments being like, this woman looks too old to be Zelda. She can't be in her 20s or in her teens or whatever. And I was just like, okay. So thank you. I know, right? We're so mean. But I guess. What, what? Thank you. Guys, one, it's cosplay. You can't expect someone to transform to a younger version of themselves. Right, if only. And like, I don't know. Maybe it's just because I'm a guy in my mid 30s but it didn't bother me at all. Like I don't look. Thank you. Look at Princess Zelda like as, oh my God, it used to be this teenage chick. I'm like, nah, it's cool. I honestly can't get your face in perfect. I loved your cosplay of it. And I've seen a lot of Zelda cosplays over the years because I used to run websites like Zelda and former back in the day. And I used to run in the same crowd as Game Over Jesse. That's how I ended up getting to know who you were back when you used to do the highly in games cast a lot more often. So like it's, it's just an interesting scene to me. So I explained to me like, I've always been curious about this part. What, like, what do you enjoy most, I guess, about being a cosplayer? Because I like dressing up on Halloween. But this is like Halloween, but pretty much anytime you want. Okay, ooh, well, hmm. I love, well, I don't know. It's so weird. I really love taking a good photo. So for me, it's, it's the end product. It's getting all of these things together and doing all this work. And then finally getting to actually wear the costume and take beautiful photos. And I love my Zelda cosplay so much too. Like as I'm sure you guys know, I do a lot of sexier cosplays, like a lot of very physique sexy girls, which I love. But for me, for me as a person, I really, really love the very like elegant, beautiful, scenic type shots. So like when I first did Zelda, that's what we did. We did very sad scenic shots because obviously like Brother the Wild is a destroyed Hyrule. So I found a place that looked like that and I was just so excited and seeing the photos after and kind of just getting the feelings of what happens like in a certain game, in a photo is my favorite part, I would say. Like, so yeah, like the end production. I love, I love so much. Yeah. So you do make most, like all your own costumes, right? I think I see some trains that you make in some, sometimes. Yeah, I would, I would make about, I would say it's kind of 50-50 for me. So I love cosplaying latex as a material. I don't make any of my latex cosplays. It's something that I have no idea how to work with. I make a, it's just its own fabric and you need to know what you're doing, right? For me, I tend to make a lot of my own props, a lot of my own armor. But so for example, like with my Zelda cosplay, I had someone make me that because I wanted it to be perfect. And I'm not the greatest seamstress. Like I'm really not, but I made like my sheikest light that lit up and I did the boots and everything for her. So it depends really. I did some of the middle section too, but I later had it redone by someone who's a, who does corsets because I wanted it to look better. I was, I wasn't happy with it. So I actually had it redone. So it all depends really. And because I do cosplay professionally now, I tend to split it even more because the internet is very fast, right? You cosplay something and people are like, that's great, but what's next? Right? It's just like any sort of content. People watch a YouTube video or they watch a podcast or like, well, that's cool, but like what are you doing now? Right? That's what literally happens at the end of every episode like, that was a great one. What's the next one? Yeah. Oh, let me, let me film it. Oh my goodness, right? So for me cosplay, some cosplays are like 50 to 100 hours of work. So I have to now, I have to, I have to pay people and commission people to do wigs for me or certain cosplays and then I work on other parts or they do a full cosplay for me and I make another one. So it just gets done faster. Otherwise like, I put out one every two months and that's it. And people would probably never want to see my content again because it wouldn't be as much of it. But that is like, you know what I mean? People are like, yeah, oh my God. Yeah, if you're not pumping out something new constantly. I have to have a new video every day or you just, people stop watching. Yeah, exactly. You're forgotten. It's little things. To a certain extent, people don't understand the time and effort that goes in behind the scenes. All they see is the 30 minute video, the 15 minute video. And they think, oh, you just recorded for 15 minutes and you're done, you know, or... Oh my gosh, there was someone. So this podcast, there was somebody emailed me and said, I really like your podcast but it looks pretty easy. And I just said that I'm like, do you even, like just building the set. Yeah, let alone building the set. Yeah, now that the set is built it's a little easy but that's just the recording part. Then in editing, like there's sometimes we talk about certain games and I put game trailers in. So then there's special editing I do for that where I split us up into three different videos off of one video feed. That takes some time to do. You have background layouts. You have audio leveling. I mean, that is a pain in the butt in that of itself in video editing. And just all these little, my new things, color correction. Sometimes like right now, technically our video feed is like slightly crooked. So then I got to fix that in post. And so like you guys don't see any of this stuff. You just see the end product and... Exactly, same with cosplay. I remember I went and I scouted locations before I shot my Zelda's. Sometimes you have to travel to locations. Sometimes I shot Aerith from Final Fantasy VII and I shot it and I wasn't happy. And I flew to LA and I reshot it. Nice. Because I wasn't happy. And so I spent hundreds of dollars to reshoot it and find a photographer last minute and redo my wig because I wasn't happy with the hairline. Aerith has a really interesting hairline and I just wasn't happy. So I spent an extra like three days just I was on an airplane. Like, hey, are you free tomorrow? I really need this done. Yeah, so like people, they don't see that obviously. I think that's lost. Everything's a lot. Like, so as someone who is like probably most people who watch your cosplays or follow you on social media and check out all that stuff, you know, I think sometimes there's not always an appreciation for the art form that goes behind it. Because as you're describing right now, like, yeah, okay, anyone can dress up and get photos taken, right? You know, whether they're sexy photos in lingerie or whether you're cosplaying certain characters, trying to present certain scenes. But you're someone that really cares about the art of it all. Like, you're not just good, but like, oh, just take a picture of me anywhere. I need good lighting, I need good scenery. I scout, I care about what the final product looks like because I think there are, by the way, I mean, I'm sure you're aware. There's plenty of women out there that do some similar things that I don't feel like they care as much about the artistry of it. And you can kind of see the difference, in my opinion at least, between the people who cosplay and really care about the artistry of it versus the ones that are just kind of doing it just for attention. Sometimes there's just bad lighting or like the hairline will be slightly off. Like, I saw a cosplay of that same character from Final Fantasy VII by another cosplayer. I'm not gonna call them out specifically, but like the hairline wasn't even close and they clearly didn't care. And, you know, it kind of takes some creative liberties, of course, but it was kind of one of those, did you just like wake up in the morning, put your thing on and take a Snapchat photo or something? Well, I feel like it's interesting because I feel like everyone can be a little different when it comes to that type of stuff. There's certain characters that I, you know, I'll cosplay because people really want me to cosplay them and I'll just do it and I'll kind of get it over with. And I'm like, this character's great, but it's not something that I am personally attached to. Extremely attached to. So yeah, so when I am very attached to a character, yeah, my brain goes into like a different mode. And if, yeah, and if I don't get what I want in a photo, I do it until I do get what I want in a photo. And I reshoot it with new photographers or I go and I find better locations or I do it again. It's really interesting. I don't know if everyone's like that, right? But for me, I've been, I've been cosplaying for a while, but I've been modeling and I've been in the art world for longer. I went to school for classical, well, I was about to say classical animation. My sister went to school for classical animation. I went to school for musical theater. I had my bachelor's in musical theater. I studied singing, acting, dancing. I was in a dance company for years. I also did stunt work on TV and film. And so I've been like in this kind of creative medium for a very long time. I've just slowly kind of changed where I am within it. But for me, it's just like, I've been doing it for so long that I want things to be a certain way. And I have the means to do it now. So why would I, why would I not, right? Like as a cosplayer who might just be starting out, you may not have those resources. Right. And it can just be harder. But for me now, I can, I am fortunate enough that I can just go somewhere. And shoot something if I want. Like literally fly to a different country because I want to shoot this here. And I want it to be as accurate as possible. And I can do that, which is crazy. Like to even think about, but I do it. I think it also has to help though with your modeling background that you kind of have the eyes for, you know, photography. You've seen probably, you know, thousands of pictures in your lifetime. And taken thousands. I mean the end of everyone else. Right, right, right. And have taken thousands of photos, you know, just by yourself. So to have that eye too, you know, it's where somebody getting into it may not have that knowledge, may not, you know, I suppose that kind of helps out too. Yeah, no, I can go through a set of myself, like hundreds of photos. I can go through a set of myself and pick out like 20 images in like 15 minutes. I can narrow things down to what I personally think looks amazing and looks accurate or whatever it is, looks flattering for myself. Super fast. I tend to pick out all my edits like photographers send me all the selections or I'm self-shooting a lot right now. For example, today, yesterday and the day before I self-shot a cosplay and I send them out to be edited because I don't have that much time to edit all my own content, but I send them to my photographers to edit. But I flip through all the images and just go, yep, nope, yep, nope. And it's like crazy fast and it's because I've looked at my own face for far too long and I know what looks good and what doesn't. It's kind of like funny. I mean, this is on a much smaller scale, but it's kind of like when I do a Snapchat photo, I know raising the phone up a certain angle, I look good. Straight on. Yeah. It doesn't look quite as good. I mean, that's just something you just, you know, anyone who's taken, you know, social media like photos and trying to send it to people and look good. Like you kind of know certain angles and filters that people like to use that can make you look good. So, yeah, that's, I mean, I'd always find the whole cosplay scene just really interesting because, I mean, I'm a guy, so I'm on the guy side of things and I see, I mean, there's tons of great male cosplayers out there, by the way, guys. Oh my God, yes. There's some amazing ones out there. I mean, we've seen them at E3. They're just, they're rocking. But like, it's always interesting because one thing I notice in the industry from just a fan perspective is, that always bothers me anyways, is I, you know, we've done E3, what, four times? Something like that, three, four times, yeah. And I'll just notice there's like certain, I guess, stereotypes, I suppose, about cosplayers and about men in general or they're just kind of staring and uggily eyeing. And I always wonder like, from your perspective, obviously someone who likes to be in the sexier side and is confident in your own sexuality and in your beauty, like, does that kind of stuff bother you? Like when you just have a lot of people at public events kind of uggily in you and maybe, I mean, I don't know what else they might do. You probably have your own horror stories, but. I mean, I definitely have horror stories, yes, many of them, but I would say, you know, just when it comes to people looking or admiring me for whatever reason, whether it's, you know, strictly body parts or whatever, I really don't care. That's good. I think you have to become obviously aware, but just okay with people looking at you and staring at you and stuff like that, but it's obviously a much different story if, you know, they come up to you and touch you. Yeah, I've seen some. You know what I mean? So it's very, oh my gosh, I, okay, I modeled all over the world. I've worked with Playboy with Maxim. Like I was with like Leonardo DiCaprio and Naomi Campbell in France for the Cannes Film Festival. I had the same security as Paris Hilton when she was doing her tour and she's DJing more. Like I have had, I have been in crazy situations and I think the funny thing is all of those things and situations with like amazing people and clubs and events have really made me as a person take no crap from anyone. So I see a lot of cosplayers that the second somebody kind of touches them or makes them uncomfortable, is acting inappropriate, I can see them like shut down. They don't know what to do. I am literally the opposite. I'm like, don't you touch me? And it throws people off. I'm sure it does because a lot of the cosplayers I've seen in person that you could tell like, they get uncomfortable when the awkward situations come up that, yeah, in reality shouldn't happen, but people are people and they do things that they shouldn't do and you can't control how they act, but you can control how you react to it. And it's something I always feel bad about when I see it happen because I've seen it happen to a lot of females in person anyways, I've seen it happen where they just get like almost like discouraged. And I don't want like the more run from the meat. I mean, ultimately if you can't handle that, you can't handle that, I understand that, but. Yeah, it's a lot obviously and as someone who has dealt with it in different forms for so long, you know, it took me a while too. I've even had men like be super creepy at like a friend's booth next to me, talking about like, you know, her butt or whatever in photos and prints that she's selling like as a guest as a cosplayer and you could see them, they didn't know how to deal with it. Security can't, a lot of men don't pick up on hints from women that they're like kind of not okay with situations, right? And I literally had to pull men over. I'm like, oh, you like booty, come here, you like this? I shot this here, oh my goodness, this was crazy. Like, talking about my body parts literally would make a man walk away with like $200 worth of prints because I was comfortable talking about my body to him and answering his questions when somebody else wasn't. And I'd make them go away. It's so funny, I don't understand, like, yeah. Like come to me, I'd be like, yeah, I'll take your money. Yeah, some of what people are looking at is like, hey, yeah, they are looking at your body parts, they are really into it in a way and they're willing to spend money, so. Yeah, and I just helped them by like, by like making them get out of that uncomfortable situation, right? And making sure they're okay. Yeah, and then being like, oh, you're not comfortable looking at the booty. Well, come here, see this booty. Yeah, I'll get you out of that situation and I'll make him. 25 bucks, it's pretty great. Yeah, literally, literally. And I'm like, are you okay? Was that a bit much? Like, I understand. Well, don't trust me. Look, it's cool. Here, you can take us home with you and look at it all the time. I don't care what happens once you leave. I got your money. Yeah, that's something I get asked a lot actually is like, do you, you know, do you care what people do when they think about you? And I'm just like, I don't, I don't wanna know. I don't wanna know. What? It's like, people do stuff over anything. Yeah, literally anything. I don't wanna know. You know, when you're out in the world and you have people that like, sometimes get turned down by animals and stuff, it's like, you know what? People do what they do. It's up to them. Yeah, I just don't wanna know. If they wanna pay me, right? But like, they ain't doing it with me, in person, I'm good. Clearly. Privacy of your own home, do whatever you want, you know. Exactly. All good. The thing is, you know, people always act like, and this is a stereotype that comes up because, you know, men obviously tend to not always respect the boundaries. I feel as much as I see. I mean, I don't know. I haven't talked to a male cosplayer in person, but I've seen male cosplayers. But I guess I would just add events that have more men than females to really know if they also go through that. Because the only time I've seen males seem to be subjected to stuff like that is when they literally put themselves in this situation, like a male stripper. Obviously they expect the woman to touch them and think certain things are gonna happen because that's the job, that's the profession. They're trying to make money in that way. So I always feel like, you know, everyone across the board does things in the privacy of their own home over different things. Let them be, let them be them. As long as it's not something that's like illegal. Let them be there, you know? Yeah, yeah, but just, yeah. And when you're out in public and everything like that, just, yeah, don't touch anyone. Yeah, I mean, this is just a general rule, guys. Like guys, girls, unless they invite you to specifically touch them, don't do it. And I know it can be hard because most people aren't gonna come right out and say, hey, grab my butt. Well, let me tell you, you probably can't grab their butt. Yeah, don't do it. But I'm just saying, you'll know. Okay, I've been at bars when I was single and flirting with women. And you wanna know how I knew I could, you know, maybe put my arm on them somehow because they put my arm on that for me. Yeah, right. It's like, if they're into you, you'll know. Otherwise- Yeah, women are pretty forward that way. I must- If you're afraid to talk to them and you're like, ogling them, let me tell you, you're probably not welcome to touch them. I'm just throwing that out to women. Women are pretty forward about it. Just because a woman, and this is another thing I say, a woman, man, anything, just because they dress sexy doesn't give you permission to do anything. Permission to look kind. Yeah, that's why you got- That's why you got all these all of a sudden, right? All the conventions are popping up with the signs that say cosplay is not consent, right? It was this whole thing that had to start because- People think because you dress a certain way. It's like consent to look, not anything else. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I don't know. People are weird, but- Yeah, and it's hard for me to imagine being part of that scene if I would ever be comfortable with it. But then again, it's something you get used to. You've been all over in the industry, dealt with a lot of different things. So for you, it's a lot more unique situation than it might be for some other cosplayers that maybe haven't had all those experiences. To get that comfortable in their body and to get that comfortable with the way people are gonna look at you and realize, hey, I can make some money off of this, but at the same point, I will set the limits. I will stick to those limits. I'm not afraid to tell a guy off. It doesn't matter. Oh my God, they might be someone who'll buy $500 in prints. I don't care, they touch me. Get away. Right, right. Yeah, totally. Not worth it. Not okay. Not okay. Anyways, talk about more about games because obviously you are a gamer. I know one of your recent streams you play Genshin Impact. Oh my gosh. I am obsessed with Genshin Impact. I don't know, it's just like, okay, I'm a huge Zelda girl. Yep. Huge, huge Zelda girl. And for me, it's just like filling that void until I wait for Breath of the Wild 2. I would like some more news on that. Yeah, yeah. I think we all did say there was gonna be news on that this year, so. Yes, yes. We'll see. That's good. I can't wait, I can't wait for that. So one game, I can't suggest you. I don't know if you've checked it out yet. If you really like Zelda games a lot, which I already know you do because I literally used to turn in on every episode of Game Over with Jesse's Pie, guys, you were on because I loved your Zelda takes. Like, oh, it was great. Thank you. I've heard Jesse talk for like 15 years about Zelda. All right, there's nothing he's gonna say I haven't heard. Just to be completely honest, but so it's nice to get other perspectives. So a game that I really got into towards the end of last year that has a nice Zelda feel to it is actually Immortals Phoenix Rising. Someone mentioned that recently. It's a very, it's a Ubisoft game. It plays a lot like Breath of the Wild. Okay, okay. It sort of has got an impact in a way too, but like this one really, and it's got a kind of a comedy aspect to it. Oh, okay. Greek mythology and all that. It's really an interesting take, but like it's got all that classic Zelda combat, the puzzles, it's really good. I've been recently getting back into it because I never finished it and now they have new DLC out for it. Oh, I see, okay. But I'm like, you know, anyone who's a big Zelda fan, I'm always like, I'm telling you, give it a chance. I know sometimes Ubisoft games aren't all the cracked up to be, but this one was made by a small team on the side and it is really good. And the DLC. Okay. The DLC that just came out is basically like an entirely new game. Oh geez, wow. It's a completely new character. You go into the Chinese mythology. Oh. Oh, that's dope, okay. So it's really cool. And I can't wait, I'm hoping like one of the DLC packs will be Japanese because I'm all into that Japanese culture. So that'd be really cool. Okay. Anyways, I just, I want to throw that out there. Like anyone who's a Zelda fan, I'm like, hey, have you played this? I'm just telling you, I don't work for Ubisoft, they're not paying me. I swear. I don't have any classes on the channel. I did at one point, I did at one point, I did a promo, I didn't act when I was acting and acting promo for the original Watch Dogs. Oh, sure. Oh, nice. Years and years and years ago. Yeah, that was fun. I used to do a lot of stuff for acting that involved like video games and everything kind of before. I had this weird period in my life where I was working so, so, so much to get through college and school and everything that I just didn't really play video games for several years. And then when I was modeling and I kind of got to work for myself a little bit, that's when I like, was able to dive back into video games as much as I wanted to. So there's a point in my life where I think I like skipped a lot for really good things, unfortunately. Well, have this to be like, I have a PlayStation 5 right now and I literally have not played like PlayStation ever in my life. Oh, that's pretty cool. Well, see, I was a Nintendo child. Yep, same. I was Sega, Sega, and then Nintendo. And that was it. We had like an N64 and a Sega Genesis and we never got a PlayStation because we had Nintendo systems, right? If you were Nintendo back then, there's so no, no. Exactly. It's like, oh, we have a system. We're getting the games on the system. So I grew up playing Nintendo games and I would watch my friends, I would go to my friends' houses and they'd have like a PlayStation. And so I'd see them playing like certain games and everything, but it just never really interested me. It wasn't until I had like, I think of PlayStation 2, my brother got me Fun Fantasy 7 for Christmas one year. He's like, I think you would like that. Hi. And I was like, yes. Thank you, our cursor. Yes. And that was like my introduction into Final Fantasy, which I'm also a huge, huge, huge fan of. So yeah, it was really interesting. But for me, nostalgia-wise, it's... Wait, what? Yeah. I have the remake downloaded on my PlayStation 5 because they had it on PS Plus. But I've literally never played it. I played Final Fantasy 1 through 6, it went to Sony and I never had a Sony platform. So I just never played it. Oh my goodness. Oh, wow. I played 8 on PC, but everyone's like, 8's not good, 7's the one. I'm like, well, it wasn't on PC. I'm sorry. Oh my, wow. I played Crystal Crackles. Oh my God. That's the only one I've played. Well, Square Enix has like, all the compilations coming up for Final Fantasy 7 remake and everything, which is crazy. But my fiancee actually never played the original Final Fantasy 7 either. So I was, I game a lot here on my computer downstairs and our PlayStation 4 is upstairs. So I would be chilling watching him play. Well, I play on stream afterwards, but it was fun watching him play through 7 with zero knowledge of it at all. So that was fun. Yeah, what sucks for me is I know like the major plot twists. So like, it's different than if I would have played it as a kid not knowing, but at the same point, I'm not invested in the character. So I'm like, okay, I've seen this plot twist a billion times. Why does it matter? Oh, well, I'm not invested. You know, it'd be different if I invested. It's huge. It's a huge, that's the thing, right? It's a huge difference. And I'm curious what my experience is gonna be with the remake since I don't have a preconceived notion of what Final Fantasy 7 is or was. So this is literally a new game for me. And I'm gonna be, it's gonna be very curious. It's also different. Yeah, it's way different, I've been told. So, it's gonna be entering to see like, cause I'm basically gonna experience Final Fantasy 7 first with the remake, then I'll probably go back and check out the old one. And then I'll probably end up giving up cause I won't like it as much. I'm just assuming. I'm assuming, I don't know. I mean, I grew up playing lots of Final Fantasy games, but it's still like. Right, right. Yeah, but even now, I don't really go back and play the old games anymore. Right, yeah, exactly. I think it's just because there's so many new games always coming out that I'm always like. That's the thing, that's the thing. It's just, we are so, and I get, I get in fights with people about this. I literally had a girl like call me every name in the book because she was complaining about Genshin Impact. And I literally said like, you don't have to play it. Yeah, yeah. You don't have to play it. Like there are other games. Me. You don't have to play it. Like you can just not play it. Yeah. I don't get what the big deal is. Lost it on me. Literally called me all these terrible names, like blocked me on everything. Wow. I was just calling, like just, it was so, she was so crazy. Just because you don't want to play the game. Because, you know, and I understand, I have really big social medias comparatively to a lot of people. And I'm sure me coming at somebody who might, I don't know if she thought I was cool or whatever, but like I imagine me coming at somebody else and being like, you don't have to play the game. Might, you know, freak somebody out because I'm a pretty straightforward personality. It's just who I am. But yeah, it was very interesting from there. But I just, I'm the type of person that I'm like, yo, there's so many games. There's so much amazing content. We are blessed with gorgeous animation and musical scores that are ridiculous and just constant updates and DLC and all this stuff. These companies, yes, they're in it to make money, but at the same time, like, there's so much stuff to keep us entertained. And I get really irks when people like complain about things. Well, entertainment in general today, I kind of feel like we are in, we are in kind of like maybe the possible heyday of entertainment at this moment. We are so blessed. So many TV shows, so many movies. Yeah, granted, lots of different streaming services and all the money can add up. But the point is there's so many options, so much content, video game-wise between digital and now we have streaming services as well and physical games and indie games and AAA and first party and all this crazy stuff happening in the industry where it's truly something for everybody right now. Yes, yes. And for those out there that obviously think things are bad or like what I deal with a lot of my end, it's just like a lot of console war. People feel like they gotta put down other platforms to make themselves feel better about what they bought. And I find it interesting because I own everything. I'm obviously primarily a Nintendo channel. I'm a Nintendo person. I talk a lot of Nintendo stuff. This is a Nintendo podcast, but I talk about everything. I mean, I just talked about PlayStation, how I, hey, I haven't experienced any of it, but now I have a PlayStation 5 and I'm playing PlayStation games. Exactly. I just find the whole industry sometimes and gamers, maybe it's just people in general. Maybe that's really what it is. It's not really a gaming thing. I think people in general aren't accepting of other people that have different opinions and different tastes in their own. Oh yeah. The world, you know, I think it goes together with everything happening in the world. A lot of people are just not very happy and obviously the internet is the internet and it's the easiest place for you to just throw it. And a lot of the times you don't feel or get any sort of repercussions for what you say and do. So I feel like. Right. And there's also no context to anything either. So, you know, they may have a small outburst on the internet. You don't know what they went through before that outburst. You don't know what they're going through after the outburst. You don't know why they had the outburst. But all you see is that is. Yeah, it might have been related to what they're talking about. It could be they're letting out their frustrations in what might be a minor way. Like someone might be yelling at me that Nintendo sucks or this and that. Like we had someone on my last live stream talking about how like, oh, Nintendo's not consumer friendly and they're this and they're that and they're this and they're that. Okay, I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, but like if you're on a Nintendo channel, how do you expect me to respond to that? Like I'm not gonna sit here and open fire on Nintendo right now. Right. Like I'm not saying you don't have valid points, but like why does it matter to you? And you've also. You've also had. You wanna play, go enjoy what you enjoy. You've also had plenty of videos calling Nintendo out. Oh yeah, I call Nintendo out all the time, but. We've called Nintendo out of this podcast. Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I probably stunt the growth of my own channel because I'm not fanboy-ish enough. Well, I feel like with anything and I feel like a lot of people don't get this is, if you truly love something or want something to be its best, whether it's like Nintendo or a person or whatever, you don't follow them blindly, you know? You want them to do well. You want them to see out, like to put out amazing stuff, but you're also there to be like, hey, not a fan of this. Can you kind of not do this? Can you fix this? Can you change this? You input your opinion in a respectful way. Right. Because you want them or the being or whatever to be everything you want it to be, right? There's no, I feel if you follow something blindly to the point where you think everything is great, it's just not gonna be good. And that's why consoles, that's why having Nintendo and Xbox and Sony PlayStation is good because they're in competition with each other. And if there was only one, they wouldn't care because they own everything anyway. And they wouldn't grow and they wouldn't be constantly trying to make sure that they have better stuff for the consumer to buy. So we need competition in everything. Good competition, friendly competition, whatever, so that these companies are constantly like really, really going for it. And I feel like Nintendo knows this especially, like with their history and like the Wii U and how that was just a hot mess. I believe there was like an article recently, I forget who within Nintendo said it, but they're like, I don't know that if they mess up like one more time, it could be the end for them because it's almost been that way before where they do something amazing and then they do not. And it literally- It was for a cowboy, the current CEO, he said things like every year is do or die, that's the way I view things, that's the way we view things internally at Nintendo, no matter how good we're doing, I've been here 20 years, I've seen this company fall off a cliff off of every success we've had we're trying not to fall off a cliff right now, but this happens, we have to be careful with everything we do and we have to keep pushing, we have to be game wise, hardware wise we got to keep pushing, which is very interesting because before him, like with Citroën Owada, Rest in Peace and prior CEOs, you never really see it be so forward about it, being like, hey look, we know we're not perfect, we know we make mistakes, we're trying not to make those same mistakes, but you know, things happen, nothing lasts forever, enjoy it while it's here and we're gonna keep trying to make you keep enjoying it for as long as we can. Yes, yeah. I like that attitude. It's like an honest look internally at what you're doing instead of always being like, oh we're good, we're at the top for a game, making more money than ever, we're awesome, which I gotta admit as a Nintendo fan, it feels like Sony acts that way sometimes when they're on top, like we're awesome, we're good, and they get really full of themselves, but that's the Nintendo bias coming out as well, but like there are some things they said, mostly with the PlayStation 3 era, there are some things they said heading into that that were kind of like, so you think you're the king shit and then you released the PlayStation 3 and watched it flop for the first year, I'm just saying like. I don't even remember PlayStation 3. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I'm serious. Oh, I mean, that's okay, they're getting, they're getting one of the online web store or the online store here in like July, so a bunch of PlayStation 3 games will be able to be bought more. Was there, wait. Maybe Sony's deleting the PlayStation 3 history now, I don't know. I had a PlayStation 2 and then I think, and then I got a 4. Yeah, totally. Did you go into the Xbox or PC or was that like your hiatus years of college and not having time? I think it might have been like, yeah, hiatus-ish. I actually, so I actually got into Final Fantasy, right? And I ended up getting like a PSP and then a PSVita and I was playing like Final Fantasy, like one, two, three, four, like on those. Like while I was in school and working, I remember vividly playing it on like public transit on buses, like playing Final Fantasy like two, like getting through all the stories on like PSVita and stuff. So I think that's why I don't buy it. I don't think I ever had any interaction with the PlayStation 3. I can't even recall anything about it where I was. Am I only, so my last interaction with PlayStation 3 was breaking mine with a sledgehammer. Ooh. I was, I did a live stream where I liquid metal cooled my Xbox Series X and I said, if I successfully pull this off, I'm sledgehammering the PlayStation 3. Well, I pulled it off, so I sledgehammered the PlayStation 3. And the only reason I had the PlayStation 3 was because of MLB The Show. Started becoming a thing and it was like the only baseball game in the world for a while. So I had needed a Sony platform to play baseball games. Not true anymore, but so yeah. Some people got pretty mad at me for doing that. Like there's only so many of those still around. I'm like, all right. I mean, I see it on the internet right now for 40 bucks, so I think there's still plenty of them around. I think the world will survive without my one PlayStation 3. Yeah, it might not. It might not. It might not. I brought up so many. You're the reason why the world is the way it is. Oh my gosh. You bastard. I can't imagine what would have happened if I would have did it to a Wii. Oh God. Tenner fans would have got so. Why is he? I'm like, there's a hundred million of these things. What are we worried about? Your channel would have tanked. I think I did lose like 40 subscribers off of that. It was. No. It is what it is. So I guess let's transition into, we talked a bit about like new games and old games. Like what's some upcoming games that we're all kind of looking forward to? Because I mean, we just talked about the industry is in a really great spot right now with so many apps and so many games. Like new generations of platforms and PC gaming is always relevant. I mean gaming on phones even, you know. That's the thing that my fiance loves gaming on phones. So, you know, what are some like, Eric, what are some games you might be looking forward to here? I'm going to take the obvious away. Breath of the Wild 2. Well, that's just. Yeah, no, no. Lincoln's statement. I don't know. Probably the most type in for all of us combined right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I love me the Lego games. So the Lego Star Wars coming out. Just reminding me, I think there's a leaked release date for it right now. Really? Yes. Oh, I just saw it in the news. The last I looked it was spring. So, which would be sometime soon. I just saw a news article on this today. It was a piece of advertising material at a GameStop. But I remember watching that, you know, going into the thing hoping we could play it at E3. But that wasn't the case. It was just a video of them playing it and whatnot. Which was still really cool because the mass openness of the game, and you can go anywhere, do anything between the nine movies, it's freaking amazing. So. Yeah, we saw what the private demo behind the scenes at E3 for it. It was, wow. Honestly, I got a little tired of the Lego games over the years because they're really samey. But then they showed this behind the scene. I think whatever, we both like Star Wars and Lego games. Let's just go check it out. And I came away being like, this isn't just a Lego game. Like it has some of the Lego game elements, the collecting bricks, and all this stuff. This is like a legitimate like open world Star Wars experience that just blows my mind. And I'm a big Star Wars guy. OK, I've been really trying to see when that's coming out. Is there another game you're looking for there? That was the one I looked up. That was the big one for you. Yeah, that was the one that I was looking through the games and that was the one that stood out to me the most. Any interest in Mario Golf? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yes, Pokemon Snap. It's one of those that I'll probably, you know me, I'll probably end up watching you play more and more than actually owning it. Well, what for Mario Golf? I know we've got the elements. That was definitely probably going to be a buy. For sure. Yeah, especially those RPG elements. Check out, yeah, like the old because I was a fan of the original one and yeah. So hopefully they can not screw this up. Not missing anything. But it's Nintendo and kind of Mario sports games, which yeah, we all know that goes. It's 50 50, not sometimes more like 2080. I mean, I really OK. Mario Tennis was great guys. Like that single player was not. Well, and I've heard was not it. And I've heard the content and that wasn't a whole lot. Well, the gameplay is great. They nailed the gameplay. It's the best Mario Tennis gameplay ever. But the single player mode just ain't it. So I'm hoping they learned from that and made the Mario Golf single player mode. Like they look so they did. They made the full RPG they claimed. Yeah, so we'll see. Holly, what's some games you're looking forward to? OK, well, obviously, right? You guys already said it, Breath of the Wild, too. I I it was just crazy that they even are doing that. I mean, I don't know if I'm surprised after. OK, so I was initially surprised when they announced it, like my reaction to my channel, I almost had a heart attack. It was it was insane. But also, should I have been surprised? Like, did the game sell 20 million? There's been no Zelda close to that. Clearly, we're going to make a sequel. I'm a huge. So my favorite Zelda is Majora's Mask. OK, good. I love dark, sad stories. There's so many like little side stories in Majora's Mask that are just so sad and depressing. And I freaking love it. I love games that just make me fall my eyes out, like just sadness, love it. And because it feels like reality. Yeah, well, I go to games for happy, but it's like, but sometimes I get no other people fixing their sad shit. Yeah, I go I go to games for sadness. Slayers only like Final Fantasy 7. Exactly. Love it. Final Fantasy 10 as well. Oh, sadness. So Majora's Mask was huge for me. I absolutely loved it. So when I when when I came to the realization that Breath of the Wild 2, obviously, it's like the same engine. I'm sure they're trying to get it done pretty fast. Obviously, it's not a year project, right? But Majora's Mask was a was a one off. You you have a year to make a game, see what you can do. And it ended up being amazing. It was crazy. But the fact that Breath of the Wild 2 is supposed to be like really dark. I was like based on the initial trailer. Yeah, looks like I remember saying this is work as hell. I remember the exact phrase. I'm like and I never thought I'd say that about Breath of the Wild because like Breath of the Wild the original game. Yeah, it tries to give you this feeling. But game isn't really that sad. Yeah, it's what you don't know that you don't really experience any friendships with the characters because they're already all dead. Yeah. And oh, this is cool. Yeah, I like these side characters. But like, OK, the champions are great, but they're not connected to them. Right. Exactly. Exactly. So it's a little different. But yeah, they even I think there's even quotes of them saying like this is just supposed to be really dark. So I'm totally about that. There's more Octopath Traveler type games coming out within the series. Project Travel Strategy. Yes, that's not that's not within Octopath, though. That's the same graphics. That's by square. But it's not it's not in the Octopath Traveler world. There's actually other games that are already in production. There's a mobile Octopath Traveler game coming out. I think it released in Japan already, the mobile one. Yeah. And there's at least one more. There's there's a series of games that they're doing on Octopath that have nothing to do with Project Triangle. Interesting. Same company, same style, obviously. It's gorgeous, but not connected besides that. Also, I'm excited for the same people who made the recent and they released Bravely Default 2. Yes, so that studio, whatever the whatever section of the studio is really in a role right now. They're they're crushing. I love that type of style. I'm a huge like farm simulator. I know there's nothing wrong with that. Stardew Valley and stuff like that. Stardew Valley, it's got to be one of it. I'm let me tell you not something I love. But something I'm extremely angry about is they keep making Harvest Moon games that are like 3D, crappy character avatar. They look nothing like the original Harvest Moons, right? Stardew looks like Harvest Moon when I was a child. That's because the studio that made Harvest Moon doesn't make Harvest Moon anymore. Exactly. And I'm very angry about it to this day. Every time I see there's a new one, literally like a few weeks ago or we don't intend to put out a new trailer for Harvest Moon. And I was just raging in my couch. So angry that again, the game looks like crap. And I just can't wait for the day where Harvest Moon gets what it needs. And it looks like Octopath Traveller. Like I would like that in my life. But also Genshin Impact. OK, I love it. The game, I think, will be like a five or six year game. Approximately, there's two out of seven regions that have been released. The game is only six months old, and I believe they're doing a new region every six months or so. OK, interesting. Oh, my God, the game is huge. The world is huge. The music is perfect. Something going back to your Harvest Moon point, it took me a second to look it up because I couldn't remember the original team making it. It actually has story of seasons that just came out. Actually, like, basically exactly what you want Harvest Moon to be because they just remade Harvest Moon. Right, it's not called Harvest Moon anymore, yeah. They can't use that name. But that studio came back with story of seasons. And I guess what did that just I think that just came out. Right. Yeah. Because this is the team they made Harvest Moon, Game Boy, Harvest Moon 64, and then story of, yeah, they made a bunch of Harvest Moons before that series that series was sold. So, yeah, story of seasons. It's not it's not it's not top down. Cute little 16 bit. Right. It's still like that weird 3D ugliness. It's like that's like a bond. You know, it's like it's like Sword and Shield. It's it's like half done. It's like a Phoebe style. Yeah, I'm not here for it. I'm not here for it. Yeah, yeah, you want you want that old school Stardew Valley style? Yeah, Stardew Valley obviously is right up that right up the alley with that. Yeah. Yeah. And I love I love playing Stardew Valley. Yeah, I will say there was one. What was that one Harvest Moon multiplayer game I played at E3? That game was a little bit fun. Now, that wasn't your 60 bit, but it was like a. Collecting competition. Yeah, but at the same point time, you were together. Yeah, it was I can't remember. It was a really that was like the one Harvest Moon game. The new people I'm like, OK, this is kind of fun. Maybe it's like a mobile game. And we got a key chain sheep. Oh, yeah, the key chain sheep. Unfortunately, it was not a 16 bit sheep. I'm sorry to disappoint you. Yeah, I'm really, I don't know. I'm really, I'm really picky. About like my animations and stuff. I don't know why. But yeah, I don't know. I'm just I'm I'm excited about Breath of the Wild and I'm excited about Genshin. It was really weird because I feel like as somebody who loves Nintendo and who loves Zelda. And I feel like a lot of people were like this when Genshin released their trailer. They obviously made it look very Zelda like very Breath of the Wild like and I feel like so. Mahoyo is so smart and I can see this now that they did that intentionally to stir up like controversy because people are like, what the heck is this game? Never heard of it before. And it's a Chinese developer. Like, what do you mean? So I feel like they did it on purpose so that people would be like, oh, what's the Zelda rip off? And then it turned out to be this amazing. The rip off. Yeah. Yeah, obviously games have elements that other games have, right? Something works. People copy it, right? Game developers have been doing that for centuries. It's just how it goes. You're not stealing. It's it's anyone who gets mad against an impact about that because I remember that controversy. Guys, you literally Pokemon legends Arceus copied shot for shot. The breath of the Wild trailer to hype you up. I know, I get it. You could say, oh, that's OK, because Nintendo owns the IP. That's fine. But I'm just saying like, let's just be honest. People are going to take advantage of Breath of the Wild being massively popular. That's just exactly. And and Genshin did that and they did it extremely well. And now they have made like billions of dollars in six months. Yeah. And when you play the game, guys, I don't know if anyone has. I've tried it out. It doesn't play like Breath of the Wild. It's its own game. Very much its own game. It just kind of used the aesthetic and some of the world to kind of get you to be like, hey, let me check. Yeah, get you in there. Yeah, I got to see. I want to go angry at this rip-off. And then you play it. Oh, wait a second. Whoa, hold on for a second. Literally, I was like, this game is great. I like this. And now I play it every single day because it's a freaking gacha game. And you log in and you get things every day. Exactly. You get promo jumps every day for logging in. And here I am every single day. There you go. But also though, it's terrible. Yeah, to a certain extent, though, that can almost get you in trouble, though, too, because, you know, people coming into the game expecting it to be like Breath of the Wild because you kind of, to a certain extent, almost advertised it to be that way. And then when it's completely not, you know, that that could turn some people off and you run the risk of, you know, messing with a whole lot of people. I think what happened would get you in the pack because I remember covering it at the time because there was a lot of people getting mad at them. They can, man, Nintendo needs to strike this game down. I think what happened is people who tried it out weren't curious to see if it was like Breath of the Wild. I think they wanted to try it so they could attack the game and be like, see this is, take it down. And then they tried it. They're like, oh, wait, this is not what we thought. It becomes very different, very fast. And it's a wonderful, well-thought-out game. And like I said, like the music is ridiculous. Like, I literally compare it to Square Enix and Final Fantasy soundtracks. I believe in like 10 years, people are gonna go back to like the soundtracks from Genshin and have the same sort of vibes that like I get now from like Final Fantasy 10 and seven and Zelda even, right, Ocarina of Time. Like I was even listening, they just put out a new thing last night for one of the areas, like an orchestrated score. And I was like, this is insane. Like this is, yeah, literally, it was 1230 at night guys and I was literally in my bed crying. Like my fiance's in the other room doing his dailies and I'm in bed like this on my phone, just like. That reminds me of. Crying. When Skyward Sword came out and it was the first ever orchestrated Zelda music by, from Nintendo themselves. There's been re-orchestrations and stuff, but like the actual game features orchestrated music and I had a review copy of it at the time. And like, I'm kinda glad that my now fiance who I met back then and started to date that wasn't living with me yet because I was literally crying to this video game soundtrack and I'm like, she's not a gamer. How do I explain this to you? That like, this franchise that's been there with me since I was a little kid now has like the violins playing and all like this crazy stuff happening that just make pulling on my heartstrings. And like, here's Zelda's all of my backwards and you're like, what is happening? This is, you don't get it. You weren't there to experience this with me. But I'm like, it's not your fault, it's okay. You have things you're probably into too, but. Yeah. Some games I'm looking forward to. It's kind of a hodgepodge of a lot of different platforms. So New Pokemon Snap, day one for me, I've been waiting for our New Pokemon Snap game since I was a kid. I love Pokemon Snap, so I'm there with you. I play, I'm a huge like, like I said, like Harvest Moon and very chill games. And not the chill game, it's the chillest game. Taking photos of beautiful scenery. Like, sorry, I keep mentioning Genshin Impact, but I can't tell you how many hours I've spent just like taking photos. This is great. I'm pretty sure Breath of the Wild, one way or another, has come up in every podcast episode for like, like the last, since it came out. Since it came out. So those games, you can't seem to let go of your own reference. For sure. But no, like Pokemon Snap. Oh man, I played that so much as a kid. So I'm, I'm not a huge Pokemon person, only because even though I'm a Nintendo person, I never had a Game Boy. Oh, okay. Yep. Never had one. If you didn't have that, it was really hard to get into Pokemon. I only had my N64. That was it. Well, and Sega and stuff like that. But yeah, so I just kind of skipped out on Pokemon. I'm probably putting the sound effect in then. Yeah. So it cooperates. No, no, whatever. Yeah. This podcast doesn't make money off ads anyway. So it literally, I think, I think the most money out of podcast episodes ever made is like 72 cents. Woo, woo. Wow. You're rich. You got like 3,000 views an episode, 72 cents. Congratulations. Wow. But there's like 20 minute average view time. Nope, too bad. YouTube's a funny place. So, so yeah, I'm looking forward to the new Pokemon Snap. It just takes me out to my childhood. It's a chill game. It's one I could just kind of bust out. You know, it's one of those things where when Pokemon Go became so huge, I always thought it was kind of cool to, you know, take screenshots of Pokemon, like the real world. Now you get to do it like in their world again. Really looking forward to that. We have Mario Golf. I thought about that earlier. I'm looking forward to that. Just because I was really into the old Game Boy one. And even some of like the, that was a new mode they would have that speed up mode. Oh yeah. They had the like the rush mode. The rush mode or whatever. That looked really cool. So try that out. Plus like, I fully admit guys, I've been playing this game on my phone the last few days called, what's it called? Golf Something. It's one of those mini golf games. Golf Battle. Ah. And I just gotta say, I think it's because I'm so excited for Mario Golf that I needed some sort of golf game. I got this arcade multiplayer golf thing going on. And there's supposedly online with this. We'll see if it's any good. I'm very skeptical after the way they handled online with Mario Party that online, but this is gonna be good, but. Okay. We'll see. Other games, I mean, obviously the aforementioned Breath of the Wild too. I think it's hard not to at least give it a shout out even though I'm not gonna talk about it beyond that. Right. But I'm just kinda glad to set this list here. There's a bunch of games I'm really looking forward to. I mean, MLB the show, just talked about how I owned a PlayStation 3 earlier specifically for it. It's funny, I own a PlayStation now and now it's multi-planned. Now you're gonna get it for Xbox. But I have one anyway. So I still don't know which platform I'm buying that on because that comes out pretty soon. Another game, this is a shout out to PC. Evil Geniuses II. Evil Geniuses was an RTS game on PC from like way back in the day, early 2000s, maybe even the 90s. And now they finally have a sequel coming out and apparently it looks really, really good from what I can see. So I'll probably, I might wait for reviews on it because I'm very particular with my RTS games these days because a lot of them, when they make the sequels, these long out sequels, so the old games end up not really capturing the feel. But at least from the gameplay I've seen, it looks good. Another game I'm looking forward to a lot. Got Resident Evil Village. Okay. I mean, I don't play a lot of horror games but I was sold. The whole Dracula vibe, vampire vibe going on, I'm there, I'm sold. I'm not a scary game person, not in the slightest. People are like, you know, play this, I'm like, no. Well, that gives you the best streamer actions when you're not into it. It's like, it's like, I don't like these games and the reasons you don't like them is exactly why it's entertaining the watch. Yeah, I would not last a day. Oh my goodness. When you crap yourself on stream. Yeah. Legendary. Yeah. Legendary. No. The biomutant game I've always thought looks really, really interesting. We'll see. I need to see a bit more on that. Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart. Interesting. Oh yeah, yeah. That game for PlayStation 5 is like, I think maybe the biggest game coming out for it anytime soon. I'm also really interested in Lord of the Rings Gollum. One I'm a Lord of the Rings fan. But Gollum is a next gen game that's also coming to Switch and it's one of the only next gen games we know is also coming to Switch. So I think it's got the latest in 2022, but. I was like, I don't even know what I'm, what? Gollum game. Yeah. I have not even seen that. Wow, okay. Yeah, I watched the opening trailer for it. It looks good. But again, we're not going to see it. It just got delayed somehow. Sure, when we're going to see it again. But it looks really, really good. You know, I have a general curiosity about Halo Infinite. I fell out of Halo a long time ago. But I do have like this curiosity about the development of this game, how it got delayed, all the fan reaction and hating the visuals. And I just kind of have a curiosity about it. I don't know, I own Game Pass. So like, I'm going to check it out because I don't have to buy it. Yeah. That's the beauty of Xbox. If it's Game Pass, you don't have to buy it. So I'm going to check it out just because I can. But I just have a general curiosity about that game. Outside of that, it's just a lot of, you know, there's a new Age of Empires game in the works. Oh, nice. Don't know when we're going to see that. We're supposed to see it at some point this year. So I'm looking forward to that. It's a PC game. They're remastering Total War Rome 2. Ooh. So, I mean, Eric knows that that game. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I can like literally lose my life to that one. Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. I still play World of Warcraft to this day. So I have the latest expansion packs. Oh, my. Okay. That's definitely a life sinker. I'm embarrassed. I don't even want to say my slash play it on that because it's embarrassing how many years of my life I have wasted on World of Warcraft. And most of it was like the early days. Yeah. Back when they had 40 man raids. Yeah. But like, I've been playing it since 2004, guys. That's when that game came out. I haven't played it. And I have probably spent years watching you play it. Oh, dude. And remember when I used to run raids? So like, you'd help me come up with strategies. You don't even play the game and you're helping me come up with strategies on how to take down the bosses for the raid. Like, I don't know if I ever told anyone I was raiding with that I had someone who doesn't play the game helping me strategize to take out bosses. Funny. Sometimes it helps. An outside perspective helps sometimes. You're disconnected from it, you know? Get rid of your bias over certain people you're playing with. Outside of that, honestly, I think we're kind of in an interesting limbo right now We have the next-gen systems out. I mean, like, I think the new Hellblade game that's coming looks interesting, but we haven't seen it since the end of 2019. So there's like a lot of games that look interesting, but I need to finally see when they're coming. Because I've been playing Metroid Prime 4. I'm excited, but I don't know what it is. Because we haven't seen it. Yeah, everyone's like, where is that? Like, where could we see that? I'm like super excited for Bayonetta 3. But like, when are we going to see it? Right. Nintendo, really, out of every company. Okay, Skyward Sword HD is cool. We know when that's coming. Nintendo's like weird. We don't actually, if people sit down and think about it, New Pokemon Snap, Mario Golf, Skyward Sword HD, Breath of the Wild 2. What the hell else is Nintendo making? There's a lot of speculation out there. Metroid and everything, but it's just like- Yeah, Metroid Prime 2, but on 4. It's like, we haven't had anything really new. And like when you think about like coming, like New Pokemon Snap, okay, that's Game Freak. Yep. Okay, Pokemon Arceus, that's Game Freak. There's a different, the Pokemon Jennifer Remakes is an outside company doing that. So that's all, that takes care of all the Pokemon. Pokemon usually isn't Nintendo internally anyways. Exactly, yeah. And then you have like, Breath of the Wild 2, we know about Metroid Prime 4 is by Retro Studios. Mario Golf is technically made by an outside studio. So it's like- And Tyrone War is still- What are the internal studios doing? Splatoon 3, that's what they're doing. Splatoon 3, we know about that. Oh, we're at Splatoon 3, yeah. And that's it. I'm not a Splatoon 3. Like what's the Mario team been doing? Is there a Zelda game that we don't know about? I mean, I know there's a ton of speculation on like with the anniversary and stuff that, you know, there could be a collection of games but what if it's a completely different game even outside of Breath of the Wild 2? I mean- That's a new top down on Zelda game. Yeah? Yeah, I was just thinking that, right? That'd be so amazing because the last one was Link's Awakening, right? Yeah, that would be the one, yep. And then before that was a Link Between Worlds, was the top down, was the last- Technically, I'm gonna correct you, it was Triforce Heroes. Okay, okay, fine. I don't like that one, but technically it was that. Okay, Triforce Heroes and a Link Between Worlds were the two that were like not remakes, right? Yeah, I think so, yeah, yeah. It was remake, so they don't put, obviously there's a lot of effort that goes in but not nearly as much because the story's already there. So it would be really, really, really cool if they had like another top down that was completely new. I mean, that'd be a complete blindside to everybody because I know that there's a lot of speculation of like them just packaging together games and stuff like that, but what if they actually completely blindside us by- Oh, here's a brand new game. Nintendo does that, they do that, so. We all expect them, I think we're all kind of expecting them to follow the Mario footprint, the Mario path and how they did the celebration of the anniversary. I kinda hope they don't. I don't need the 35th anniversary ending and then Nintendo takes games away. Oh, right, but you know what I'm saying. So I don't really want them to go that route, but I know what you mean. Not necessarily the game ending, but the path of, okay, we get this remade, this remade, we get a collection of this and a mobile game. You know, something like that, that formula. Not necessarily the game's ending, but that same kind of formula. I think everybody's kind of expecting and kind of follow that. Also, when are we ever getting Mario Kart 9? Oh. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is great, but technically, how old is Mario Kart 8 now? Like, when did that come out? That was a long time ago. Oh yeah, totally, fairly long. Yeah, we just got Mario Kart Live Home Circuit or whatever and that's fine, but it's not really a full Mario Kart game. It's probably an experimental. So it came out in 2014. Now, oh my God. Yeah, wow. I mean, we're seven years out from new Mario Kart. Now I get it, 8 Deluxe, it was Wii U, they poured it, fine. Right, right, right. Like, we're kind of old. Right, like an actual full-on on its own game. Dang, that's, ooh. Do they give it? I mean, they're doing Smash too. They're doing Smash stuff too, right. But they've only got like two characters left. Yeah, they've only got a few left. Yeah, and it wouldn't surprise me after the few characters they fill this out. They'll announce another round of characters. It wouldn't surprise me at all. I think they're done. I think Sakurai said there won't be another. But you know, here's what I think's happening with Smash, like just to briefly touch on it. Yeah. Because Smash is a whole guy. We could talk about that forever. Right. Yeah. So Smash Ultimate, I think, is a really hard game to follow up because it's got the biggest roster with the most content, the most stages of the best fighting game of all time, not even close. You know if you try to cut anything. I think like whenever Nintendo's next-gen system is going to come, they're just going to re-release Smash World's Ultimate and include all the DLC, kind of like they did with Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Yeah. But then, instead, in lieu of creating a new Smash game, I think for that generation, they're just going to say, here is a $40, $10 character pack we're working on for that game. And that's when they'll bring back adding new characters and content. Because I honestly have no idea how they move on from Ultimate to make a new Smash game from the ground. I literally, I don't even know if it's possible. Anything they make is going to be a disappointment in comparison. Especially if they cut anything out. Because, yeah, they cut rosters down. Like Sakurai said, this is the only Smash game that's going to have all the characters, period. Well, okay. So any sequel after this is going to have a smaller roster and people are going to be mad. Oh yeah. You already saw that with Pokemon. That's why I look, I think they're just going to milk Ultimate for as long as they can. Right. It'd be interesting to see if they go the Ultimate route with Mario Kart. What do you mean? Instead of Mario Kart 9, they go Mario Kart Ultimate. And they bring back... Well, people don't want them to do Nintendo Kart for a while. Oh yeah. Just stop calling it Mario Kart, combine all the franchises and you're already bringing Animal Crossing and you brought Zelda in. Like what's stopping you from just making it? And I'm like, you know what's stopping them? The Mario Kart brand is too big. Oh yeah. They've proven they can add these franchises in and not call it anything to Mario Kart. I think that's also a way to bring the ultimate kind of the ultimate name into it too. Because then you can start adding. I think once you kind of add that ultimate in there, you can kind of argue, you can start adding a little bit more, you get a little bit more leeway and adding more characters, different franchises. Yeah, I wonder if they did a Mario Kart Ultimate. Were they running through the same problem with Smash now where like, you can't really follow up Ultimate with anything. Right, but... That would be in a disappointment. So like, if they do a Mario Kart Ultimate, say, it has every track that's ever been in Mario Kart, every character plus new characters plus new tracks, like how do you follow that Mario Kart with something that's lesser? I don't think you... You don't. You just keep building on it. That's the end of Mario Kart. I kind of feel like Smash Ultimate is probably the end, or at least it's the end for Sakurai. I don't think Sakurai is going to win any more Smash games. So like... Right. And I think that's the whole point. The reason Sakurai puts so much time and effort in this because he's like, this is my swan song for the franchise. Yeah, it's like this is my legacy. Yeah. It's like a legacy here for him. Yeah. He's going to move on and do other things, which is great. Maybe he'll get back involved with the Kirby franchise. Maybe he'll do something completely new and unique. Who knows? You know, Kid Icarus Uprising, that was him. I don't know. He's recently said that he ain't coming back. I'm not being Kid Icarus Uprising back. I don't know. Maybe he didn't like the game. I don't know. But he said he's not bringing it back. But it doesn't mean there can't be other things he could work on. So I just think there's a lot of different directions they could go. With that. But that being said, I think we're going to get things kind of wrapped up up in here. Just looking at the time here. I think they were sitting there. Plus I did end up having a couple of camera glitches there. Yeah. Day and camera. So any of you guys watching the video version where you saw it cut out and just show a bunch of game trailers, you'll know why the camera cut out. Yeah. Which is weird because the camera didn't cut out for like an hour. Right. And then it just every 10 minutes. Let's cut out. I don't understand it. But I thought I had it fixed. I'll have to keep looking at it. Well, the good news is, guys, Panasonic is working directly with me behind the scenes to fix these camera issues because they agree the cameras shouldn't have these kind of issues because their older version of this camera didn't have these issues. So they do agree that their cameras shouldn't cut out like it is. So anyways, it's OK. We'll get it all taken care of. That was a nice little podcast, guys. Yeah. If you guys want to check out the Nintendo Prime podcast audio-wise, we're literally everywhere that podcast exists. Just look up Nintendo Prime podcast. If you're listening to the audio version, if you want the video version, check out YouTube. Just look up YouTube channel, Nintendo Prime. You'll find it. You can follow me on Twitter at Ninety Prime. Now, Holly Wolf, where can they find you? Or do you want to send the funds to? Where? I am. Well, if you want to follow my, I'm everywhere. Yes, I know. I'm still on TikTok after that whole thing. Oh, my goodness. Silly TikTok. We won't get into that. I'll just say. Oh, it's TikTok. I don't know what they're doing. Yeah. It's a grand time. I'm constantly battling with them. But you can find me mostly everywhere. Twitter, Twitch, Facebook, TikTok is all Holly T. Wolf. And then Instagram is Holly Wolf IRL. So yeah, I stream on Twitch a few times a week. Oh, I'm on YouTube as well, which is Holly T. Wolf as well, which is my gaming channel. And yeah, I'm literally just kind of all over the place. Do you have like a massive Facebook page that you barely post to? Well, Facebook, I'm in the middle of completely overhauling it. So I've been spending months donating all my money. Here's a couple posts, but it's like one a month. Literally, I've deleted like three years of content on Facebook because I'm working on getting it monetized. Oh, OK. Yep. Facebook is actually more sensitive about female body parts than any other social media. So that's really been interesting. So even a little bit too much cleavage, I've had to take it all down. But I got my channel fully monetized, which is crazy. That's good. So yeah, it's just a few more things I have to work on. But yeah, I have a Facebook page that has 3.5 million. Yeah, I was going to be like, it's huge. I've been there. Yeah, that's my original big social media that I kind of blew up on. I was like, you know, I've been at all your social media. I think that's technically the biggest one in terms of the sheer number of people following. Yeah, I had a big Instagram and I got rid of it because it was deleted at one point and I made a backup. And then Instagram verified my backup. And I was like, OK. All right. Yeah, so I was like, I guess I'm working on this one now. And I just say it was too much. So I sold my old Instagram, which was my bigger one. I was like, I'm just going to put this money towards cosplays. So I made a good little chunk of selling my profile. And it's now like a model promo page. And I'm funding like four cosplays. So nice. There you go. I'm down. I'm down. And it's one less thing to worry about. So that's great. Yeah, I'm trying to like consolidate here. I'll have links to all of our socials guys if you want to follow down in the description. And you guys know how it goes. All of our guests, we do lots of promotions promoting their content and their stuff throughout the week that the podcast is out. So you guys will be able, on our Twitter, on our Facebook page, everywhere else, you'll see us tossing out stuff. Don't be surprised if you see her Zelda cosplay pop up a few times, because it's one of my favorite ever done. I have several new Zelda cosplays coming this year. Yes. Many of them. One this spring, hopefully. It should be actually shot in like two weeks. Yes. But yeah, I'm trying my hardest to get through new Nintendo things. Just wait until Breath of the Wild 2 comes out and then there's a whole new. Oh, wow. Well, there are so many gorgeous female characters that I have been wanting to cosplay from Zelda for years. So I hope, I hope Breath of the Wild doesn't introduce too many new ones, because that's what's going to happen. That's what's going to happen. Like, I'm doing this character, this character, and then Breath of the Wild 2 comes and like, ah, damn it. That's a huge problem with cosplay, is my list is ever growing, right? And new things come out all the time and you add it to the list or you're working on something and you kind of throw it to the side because something new comes out. It's really, it's a hectic mess, but it always works out in the end. But yeah, I want to do so many, so many cosplays from Zelda. If I had my way, I would just do that. And like, forgo any of the sexy stuff, but that's the stuff that makes me the money that I can then invest like $3,000. You got to go with the monies that have to do what you want to do. That's kind of cool. Yeah, I'll use the, and that's one last point I'll make quickly. As a lot of people don't realize that, we do a lot of the sexier stuff because it will make us the money to then fund these things that we want done. Like, I did Zelda, like her queen version from Breath of the Wild, that beautiful dress. And that's like $2,000, like all of it put together. So I'm just not thrown around like two grand here and there, willy nilly, like I need to come from somewhere. So I use sexy stuff to make my things that I love. And it happens a lot, right? It's up to me, I just, I don't want time. You know, like, I think when I get complimented on how the podcast looks now and everything, it's like, well, the camera, the microphones, the foam, the table, the tea, stuff to pay for itself. I make other videos that maybe you guys don't like so much because they perform better and make money. So I could do stuff like the podcast, which I just said 72 cents. An episode like, I get good leadership, but unfortunately just the way it works, I don't really make much money off of it. So when you see me put up a rumor video or this or that, guess what? Those are the videos that get, you know, thousands and thousands of views that make the money so I can do the content I want to do. Exactly. So it's like, yeah, you got to take the go with the bad sometimes. And I have fun with some of the stuff, but it's still this podcast, if I had it my way, this channel would be nothing but a podcast. I would literally do podcasts all the time. That's my ultimate end goal. I want my channel to be a conversation podcast channel, but- Right, yeah. There's just no money there. Yeah, I'm gonna do the other stuff, but it's not like you want the other stuff. You know, you still enjoy it. Yeah, yeah, I still enjoy it, but not as much as this. This conversation, and I was like the highlight of what I've done for my channel all week. And that's just the way it is every single week with the podcast. Well, when we have a podcast, we'll have one last week. Right. All right, well, thanks for coming on Holly. It was awesome. Hopefully get you out on some future episodes because I try to rotate the guests in and out, so you know, probably in a month or so, I'll hit you, I'll be like, hey, what are you doing? Yeah, are you free? Hopefully you don't have another tooth surgery that same week. Yeah, that was not fun. I bet. Eric, is there anywhere that you want people to follow you? I mean, I got, I got. Same old, same old, Emo 8790? Yeah, Twitter, Emo 8790, yeah. I mean, technically, you're on TikTok a lot, but I don't know if you haven't seen it. No, not like that. I just always said to me funny videos. I just watch it because it's funny. TikTok's great. I like it for scrolling. Oh my goodness. Yeah, you can waste hours. Yeah. TikTok is addictive and just like, no matter how many dumb videos you see, there'll be like one every like six videos, where you're like, okay, that's kind of good. Yeah. And so you can keep scrolling to find the next good one. Yup. Yup. What? All right guys, thank you so much for tuning in and hey, we'll catch you in the next episode, which is hopefully next week. Yeah, right? See, I don't technically have a guest scheduled yet, but yeah, we'll figure it out. Fly by the seat of the pants sometimes here at Nintendo Prime. Yeah. All right.