 Why did pen testing for a long time? You know, I was in for about 15 years total and Felt like I had done just about everything there was to do, you know I've done some written some books and you know spoken at Black Hat and Defcon and you know Exceeded all my expectations of it, but it was something missing, you know And my wife went to Uganda for two weeks on a mission strip and took video of these kids that had nothing You know their parents had died living with a grandmother that's got AIDS, you know And they're happy and smiling and I was like man, what do these kids have that I don't so I spent two weeks in Uganda basically doing computer repair and They explained to us at the end of two weeks that we were saving kids lives Because we were cleaning up the machines that held their financial information So they could connect the money with children, you know, and it was like man, I'm saving lives What's that about basically the next year I started hackers for charity I was like man in this community. We do cool stuff, you know We're given to Red Cross. We're standing up comm networks when there's disasters and But we don't have anything that's ours Technology-based charity and that's what we're trying to do with Acres for charity Yeah, yeah, basically we have you know t-shirts We have handcrafts that were made in Uganda all the crafts were trying to raise money for local artists and people that are there working But it all goes back into goes back into Uganda helping the population there And then every year we do a silent auction people make donations. We do a really cool Really cool auction every year and raise raise a lot of money to keep doing good work HD more rapid seven was our was our big help this year picked up the uber badge from us And you know, we see that all the time we see folks from you know all levels of the community pitching in You know Defconn for years and years and years has been our sole line of support, you know Come in here selling t-shirts talking to people raising money funds our operations So it's hacker cons that are that are floating us 100% yeah Yeah, basically helping nonprofits that don't have a lot of budget don't have a lot of skill and You know basically prove that this this community isn't criminal, you know, we're just smart We love technology and you know, it's gonna be fun No, that's it. I just love Defconn. I'm glad to be here. It's good. It's like being home Yeah, thanks guys