 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go Mind pump mind pump with your hosts Salda Stefano Adam Schaefer and Justin Andrews in this episode of Mind pump you've been doing that like trying to hit everybody on a high. I'm trying to get my voice For the first 30 minutes, we do our typical chit chat me and Adam chit and chat went a Sloan on an LA Adventure oh, yeah, and you missed me miserably find out in this episode if we killed each other or if we became closer Hmm, then we talk about Adam's train of thought and how he lost his train of thought or his methods that he does Cover it. It was brilliant. Yeah, we talked about how he almost died in an uber. We talked about Tom Bill use Beverly Hills Mention it was amazing. We met dr. Drew there dr. Ramachandran awesome person We also mentioned the probiotic that I started using for more ganify by the way You get a discount on organifi products if you go to organifi shop calm and just enter the code Mind pump and Adam also talks about brain FM. That's brain dot FM Forward slash mind pump. There's a direct link right on our page right on our page if you go to mind pump media calm There's a direct link so you don't put all that bullshit forward slash backslash it in exactly easier pain in the ass Then we get into the questions. The first question is why do humans? Fear change and what can we do about that? Then we talk about a six foot two 215 pound bodybuilder who's trying to make the transition from bodybuilding Adam wrote his own question in here into functional training We give him advice on how to do that. Then we ask the question about deload weeks What are those and when should you implement them in your training and finally? Somebody asked us a question. They actually have one arm. That's Smaller than the other. What should they do to balance them out so that they look more Symmetrical or are you fucked and finally this month get access to our private forum remember There's only there's 2,000 members on our forum Many of which are personal trainers fitness professionals and of course me Adam and Justin are on their daily You get free access this month if you enroll in any maps program or any of our bundles including our One year's worth of programming bundle the maps super bundle one year. Are you out of your mind? I mean it's super. It's it's pretty awesome. It basically takes your entire year and maps it out Makes it incredible with nice plan words like that with phased workouts all planned out for you And also by the way the forum will actually be going up in price in September as well So please don't say this is the case This is a great promotion the place to enroll with all of this is buying pump media.com dude when we're we were At the Tom Billy's event or whatever and we're meeting people and I'm like hey Let me get your number because I'm trying to get contacts and stuff, right? Yeah, and Adam's just jumping and he's like yeah, he wants to send you dick pics Like wow First time eating these guys I can see that Yeah, when you're in said South don't send these guys dick pics. I know that works sometimes but it's They started dying laughing. They're like, no, I'll go ahead send him bro I'm like I don't want to waste your data. Oh my god, but But people must have loved you guys. No, dude We had a god what a productive short slammed Trip we had it's like it gave me a little taste of Back in the days working at 24 dude. It was like this stuff same hustle that same hustle. We showed up different We went straight bro. Yeah, the plain lands back and it was a fedra. That's what kept us going Yeah, exactly the plain lands we drive immediately from the from the airport to the first interview Which was Luke's podcast we get on that one It's late by the time we get home go to sleep wake up go to a well They have a Speaking of Luke so we'll run you through what that was like right we get there and he's got a videographer He's streaming this live on Instagram and Facebook simultaneously. Oh dude. He's going crazy. There's cameras everywhere Yeah, I don't know if you guys looked at his Instagram one mister, but it was clean He actually dug you go check this out on Amazon for the iPhone and for the iPad He you can put these a little they're only let's take any like a microphone extension or something microphone extension and a Lens extension so shoot and you just put it over the the iPhone and you just put it over the iPad That's cool And it gives you like this better shot and it was the fashion guy live life stylist podcast Yeah, and he for sure was and he's not a he's not a What kind of fashion did he do he did it was fashion it was close close I thought he was a hair stylist when we first read up on him And I didn't and I didn't realize that till like after we've been talking you could tell though when you go into his house Heterosexual hair stylist. Yeah, one of them. No. Well, he was on one of the few heterosexual wardrobe stylist. He said But we get to his house and it's You can tell he's got impeccable style. There's nude photos of women all over the walls everywhere And on awesome on his coffee table. There was the big book of breasts Yeah, yeah, I saw that in your insta story. He's got a thing. He's got a thing going on But anyway, we're doing his podcast. We're having a good time One of the probably one of my favorite moments podcasting ever hmm at the moment. I don't realize what happened That's how good Adam was gonna tell these guys this I have to tell him about your brilliant Yeah, okay, we'll call that you are dude. You're very good at this This was I did not realize what you were doing until after when you told me that I couldn't stop laughing So Adam's talking he's telling a story and I can't wait till the podcast comes out because now people will know As he's telling the story put me out there. He's talking, right? So he's like blah blah blah blah and he goes He's like pulls his bike away from his mouth. He's like and he grabs his water and start drinking He's like, I don't know what just happened. He starts coughing again. So I'm like, oh shit So I just took over right like oh here and I gave Adam my water I gave him my water and I took over and Adam's like, oh, I'm sorry. I don't know what just happened, right? So at the end of the podcast we go back to the hotel and Adam's like dude. He goes. I lost my train of thought See coughed your way out. Yeah, he pretended like he choked on that's a good move But I bought into it so much that I thought that's what happened. I'm like, oh fuck. Here's my water dude. You okay? After that we learned that you know, so I have a signal now We had to start sneezing we have to have a signal to try that I would I try I have this thing right when we're when we're in here This rarely ever happens when all three of us together because it would just with all three of us Someone always has something to say so it's rarely ever but I do notice this when there's just two of us It changes the dynamic, right? You know, so there there is moments where you know One of us is carrying the conversation longer than we normally would and I've told Sal There's times where I'm talking and I and I lose my train of thought and I'm still feeling dead space I'm trying to give him try to give him the look with my eyes like awkward now I experienced the same thing being on Josh Trent's episode. It was this like this dead space I was like so uncomfortable with it that I had to like I was like immediately thinking of things to fill with it You know, I'm like, oh, you know like trying to get involved because I'm like no no no no don't let this happen, right? Yeah, that's what I was and I'm giving Sal like this this look like I'm looking in his eyes like trying to like tell him like You know, you have subconsciously. I'm trying to tell him trying to use telepathy. I'm like talking But I'm like looking like bro. I don't know where I'm going right now. Give me the wrap-up music So we have a sign now we're gonna be okay that'll never happen again. We'll be all right. We should have sign language I think you know, it's funny. You can't do it. Yeah. Yeah, I can't know you can't actually it's better Cuz you'll just do this while you're talking lift one ear off No, what happens is I think because this has happened to me It doesn't happen when we podcast I usually don't lose I don't think I've lost my train of thought talking on the podcast But it's happened on video for me and what happens is and I've identified what happens when I'm talking Yeah, we talk you and I talked about this afterwards Yeah, I'll be talking on video and then I'll start listening to myself talk and analyzing my own conversation That's what I do and that's when I get fucked up. That's what I do talking I've had to work my way through that. No, you can't do that. Yeah, don't listen to yourself talking Which is now that I said that everyone's gonna start doing that You have to just be in the moment because the second you start analyzing yourself Then you'll get you lose it. You'll lose it and you know what's funny This is what's hap this is what happens to people who get anxious when they're talking to people and they're in crowds So if you ever talk to somebody who's like, oh my god, I get so anxious when I go to parties When you kind of boil it down, that's what they do that as they're talking to an individual They'll start listening to themselves talk and then self-analyzing. Yeah, and then we'll get really awkward. Yeah, you know I mean I used to be horrible at that. You did. Yes. Yes. Yes. See one of my biggest problems I'd overcome. I feel like you do that sometimes when you tell stories. Absolutely. Yeah I think you can see your head. Yeah, I think you can see your will spinning like In my head the story this story was so much cooler in my head and right now. I'm not taking it I'm not delivering it the way I know I Clown came out of the closet So then the next morning we met with Jason Frugia Renegade radio and did his podcast. Oh great. Cool. I've been meaning to meet that guy Yeah, you know, he'd been on our radar and I told him that and I'm pretty sure it was you who introduced his podcast to me When we first started podcasting You pointed him out. I remember you were listening to him and Joe Rogan You're like listen this guy some of stuff he covers. Yeah. Yeah, it was him and Mike Mauler and kind of that crowd Yeah, they all they all were kind of like in that. Well, he's tied all these athletes We thought I mean he's trained all kinds of pro athletes his connection to the trainers though I mean he has some pretty cool connects with some of these guys Joe Defranco, right? Yeah, cuz he used to work on the East Coast, right? Yes. Yes, and then he was it was He started off as a major blogger So, I mean most of his businesses come from internet marketing and his email list and blogging So we got it the podcast was a later transition for him So he was bigger more successful even before the podcast Yeah, that you introduced me to him through the podcast and a great guy covered a very similar Philosophies very similar stories like as us as we kind of learn the hard way doing a lot of stuff the wrong way and then and then Through digging into the science ourselves have found like the right information and he's trying to get that out there So, I mean we we definitely saw eye-to-eye on almost every conversation we talked about and was just good dialogue Good ass dude badass place right on Santa Monica. Oh, he's right like you can see the beach Troy from his balcony you could throw a rock and hit the sand nice And it's just which by the way that beach was court because after we finished with him We had like a two-hour break before moving on to the next podcast Mm-hmm, and we were walking along the beach and I mean, I know why people live there now You know what I mean? It's just it's fucking gorgeous. It's almost worth all the shitty ass traffic Yeah, just to for that moment fucking weirdo. Yeah of that when walking on that that pathway at 75 degrees Waves crashing beautiful set white sand. Can we just talk about that though the the LA style a Little bit. It's a little pretentious It's a little pretentious the fucking dude at the hotel who's helping us has got a full-on mullet But he's trying to make it look cool, and everybody's got fucking weird colorful shoes and all this very hipster. I'm like I love it It's like it's like Adam everywhere No, it's not I have my own style not like that. I have my own flavor. That's there It reminded me of the the the whole hotel just felt weird. I mean there was definitely celebrity Coming in and out of course, you know Brianna set us up in a nice place It was the Lux hotel so shout out to them because they do have a nice spot. They do great service great food everything there We are pretty happy with I don't think there was anything we weren't happy with we there's something you I was you know what the menu the fucking room service menu could have been a little bit better Other than that we're all asleep in the same bed. We did there were there were to save money that way Well, no, there were two beds in the room, but I see but yeah, he doesn't like to sleep alone Sal gets cold. Yeah So I I get myself nuzzled underneath his his pet doesn't matter. I was yeah, I was big spring. She's all that matters Yeah Establish that and I was a fork So and then we went and then we met with a smaller podcast Christina Rice What's the name of actually adult ish? It's a small podcast. She's a 22 year old girl Very sweet girl little fucking hustler. I a little closer. I loved her. I loved her I was so I really liked her she was out of the entire trip. I think a one-man show dude She's doing all these different things and she's got only she's a woman so it was it's a state. It's a saying No, I think that I mean I what we what we got when we saw Jay I expected because I knew more about him and You know so I was excited, but I wasn't surprised, right? I wasn't surprised I was gonna like I kind of felt like I was gonna like this dude. I would have been more surprised We didn't hit it off. Yeah Knew a little bit about the stylist guy heading over to see Luke like those guys had a good time But she was to me the the biggest surprise because we we almost weren't gonna have we barely squeezed that in because of our schedule she's one that was a fan or at least yes, yeah, she's a big-time listener and Man, she won. She had great questions. She interviewed great. She brought us cookies. Okay, she made us extra credit for that like Yes, Keto Keto, Keto friendly cookies man that were bomb. Yeah, and she's a food blogger She's got several pages that have a pretty decent reach and she's doing this all on her own Yeah, like it was it was impressive. She has she had all her respect. She had Doug's like lighting setup She's got the computer set up for her Podcasting so she's doing all her own to all her own videos all her own photos all her own audio stuff She's got multiple Instagram pages. She started it all through a blog starting a new podcast on her own Just graduated from US UCLA 22 years old and she introduced us moving fast She introduced us to this genre of people that I just was unaware of there's a whole food blogger world out there on the internet And it's she says it's fucked up She's like that's what motivated her to start her podcast is she goes it is crazy And then she goes why I was so excited to have you guys on here because I wanted you guys to speak to my audience They wanted I needed them to hear it from you was So many of these girls that are doing the same type of stuff I am which is posting pictures of recipes and food and you know blogging about it and these girls get these large Followings because they post food and recipes and then all sudden they become Fitness experts and they start telling people how to work out and she goes the advice they're giving is horrific Most of them have major eating disorders And and it was which was crazy because it sounded just like the bodybuilding world and what we talked about on here So much so and she says it's a large community there's a ton of these large pages that are foodies that blog about food and recipes and Most of them have a very poor relationship with food exercising themselves It kind of makes sense though if you think about it, right? It makes a lot of sense. They're so obsessed with food And it's probably because there's they have a bad relationship with it But it was it was mind-blowing though because I had not met somebody who's living in that world, right? Like so it when she said it was like duh, right? I mean when she said it I felt like of course that makes a lot of sense It's huge popular you see them all over the place like all these like accounts that all they do is they post like beautiful picture of food And you know ways to kind of skirt around the amount of sugar that's in this or you know Like and then that kind of turns into advice to lose weight. I see that well That's what she was saying. She's saying that these food bloggers who post beautiful pictures of food and make awesome Dishes will then get popular. You know look at 30 40 50,000 followers and the next thing you know They become wellness experts and she's like and they're not yeah, they'll post their workouts and their diets And she's like they're horrendous and so she was asking us a lot of questions around that and you know, it's again She's just a just this little Entrepreneurial hustler, which I love and of course as when me and Adam leave we're like hmm like She can come work for us at some point one day. Well, I was man I love seeing that love seeing yeah, I can always tell like when we when we go into an interview like this like the the skills at the level of the interviewer like how good they are what they do and She was probably the most impressive. I was really impressed. She was one of the better. Yeah because of I mean There was never dead air and and Sal and I tend to do this And I don't know if we do this subconsciously or intentionally But we'll be like going on a rant and we'll be talking about something and then we'll like boom Just shut it off and those that are really Yeah, the interviewers like whoa, you see they're so Listening and there's so much in the conversation and then scrambling to get that next question, right? And there's also in this little bit of a well, okay, so, you know, you know And they ask a question right where that never happened with her and we did that multiple times to her And I thought she carried herself Incredible that she did great man and at only 22 and hanging with that was so impressed so impressed with her Interest and We'll definitely we will be tracking her and paying attention to what she's doing because I think she's got a great But she's getting ready to set start a second podcast. So she's about to roll to talk. Yeah, no the end she have a significant other like No, well, now that we know we didn't ask about her personal life. I mean obviously she's interviewing us So we didn't get a lot of questions. Oh, yeah More more more than anything else to be honest complete completely honest Sal and I did very little homework on her heading into the interview But afterwards because we were so impressed we started diving through. Oh, yeah We started I was like because I didn't know what to expect and you know And then when I when we got there and realized how much of this that she was managing doing herself We both were like, dude, this girl. I only asked that because you know, like if she's like on fire like that Like I wonder what you know, if she's getting support with that or she's like all on her own Just just killing her on her own. Yeah. Yeah, she's on her own. She's fucking hustling. That's great I really respect that especially when I see somebody that age doing it because most kids, you know, that age or you know They're not that motivated. No, they're not and that's just normal was like that when we were kids, too So it's not like this current generation were you in the room just now too before we started pocket When I told you her background what it was what she was doing before this. Okay, so she was Basically what Brianna is for us For a blogger. So she was like big LA blogger. Yeah for a big LA blogger So she was constantly setting the interviews up and you know, that's why me and Adam were thinking like oh shit She could yeah at some point connections help us out, right? Who knows who knows, but yeah pretty cool What'd you guys do where we're gone? You guys are bored, huh? Yeah Moped around To a pillow it was all quiet Fucking productive as hell We all kind of split off and worked, you know separately and then connected. I think Taylor and Between Doug Taylor and myself like kind of addressing things with the YouTube But mainly just working on the website and we're still really like trying to get that thing overhauled and updated and refreshed. So That's all running now, right? Is that is that I mean the wheels are turning? Okay, exactly the wheels are turning that and obviously had my big meeting and all that kind of stuff that we kind of alluded to and So yeah, so all good things and and good energy, you know, so but it's it was definitely different man There was it was quiet in here It was different just me and Adam, you know without anybody else either which weird is we don't really argue when it's just you and I And maybe it might be you might be done When other people around we fucking you know, we get a great. Oh, I agree. I agree. I agree That's what mine pump would be without me We had an Uber driver almost kill us Russian the Russian driver My god, it's like super aggressive. He drove across four lanes of traffic drove straight across and stopped perpendicular to the traffic right cars are fucking beaming towards us Maybe that's what he has to do though down there. You know, I don't give a fuck He he got stuck. Okay, so imagine right? It's a four four lanes to going this way to going the opposite way And he's crossing us Through this and he stops in the middle of it. Oh my god So cars are coming this way at us and this way at us And he's not moving like literally people slamming their brakes laying on their horn Is email and sound like we just we've got it just got in that was the first move He picked us up from the hotel. Yeah, let's look at this across four lanes and we both kind of like, okay Oh, this is gonna be the end. Yeah, but you gave him a good rating. I didn't give him any rating So I would have given a one Okay, I feel guilty about doing that why he's a shitty. What do you mean? He's a shitty fucking It is the guy that dropped us off over here almost took off with our luggage. Yeah, that was funny. Yeah You know what I think I feel like the only reason I want to share is because I've heard so many like, you know Stroke-off stories of uber everyone. Oh uber uber So I we have that we this trip because this was the first time by the way This was the smart it may be the smartest call Because you know Brianna was like, okay Do you guys want me to set you up with your you know, like you normally do or we rent a car and I'm like I'm like salad. I'm right. Oh my Jesus Christ. This could that could be guys have been in Mexico, right? I was like, you know what? Let's just I got the uber app on there and I'll put the company I bet it was cheaper too if we calculated it. I think it was I think because it we I mean We did end up having to take, you know, what six six or seven ubers during the whole trip So, you know, we used it quite a bit man It was it was very efficient as far as time and scheduling and keeping easy for Sal and I to not get fucking lost and all over each other I think that's why we didn't actually get at each other's throat because I could If we were if we were as crunched as we were for time, there was never time to fuck around We had to get from one place. Yeah, you can imagine the the fights You guys would have somebody was driving and I would have been so mad at him. He's the worst navigator Worse it's shot he claims shotgun. He falls asleep immediately all yes call shotgun all the time and then fucking closes his eyes Actually, I'm first place in that contest and then I'm driving and texting so between the two of that I mean we would have been it would have been the best at being the worst Yeah in that position and then we went to Tom bill use house fucking more. What did it look like? It's a 10 million basically it's a master's That's a guess. I just that's what a fucking supplement company will buy you We pull up and there's there's we get dropped off by uber and we were walking down the driveway. There's three Valley valet guys there to valet people's cars when you got you get there you walk through and it's I mean It's a mansion to fucking on moholland drive and it's at the top so it's viewing like it's the kind of view of LA Catalina Island in the ocean like it's just it's gorgeous and but he set up his whole house To for to for work. No way Katrina would fly. Oh really? No, dude He's nobody no one no one's wives or girls would fly for this set doesn't surprise me But dude his whole recording set is in his what would be I guess a living room I don't know and then he's setting up another set somewhere else And I mean it is a massive house, but could you imagine like you wake up in the morning like ah boom work wires cameras everywhere? No, it's and he has got dude. He's all in Doug all he's mr. Doug would have been masturbating everywhere He had cables this thick, you know like cables for your your TVs and cameras that I could just imagine what kind of power They got to be putting out for cables So you're putting out. I don't think you necessarily judge. I feel like you Why would you need it that thing? Isn't that a fair assumption? I mean the thicker the wire the more power we're probably trying to run through this motherfucker I mean, isn't that a fair assumption is more than two that's probably fair, right? Honestly, I don't know it's you know if you had a big bulge in your pants good chance you're packing dude Yeah, I got some power. That's some power. Can't get it up then you're screwed He had a room. Okay dedicate Doug would have loved this to like dedicated to you had three of the biggest There's like a control room where you're just you're just controlling the cameras and what angles and all that shit live Right and they're streaming on all platforms like right right there and you can control all of it edit it all as As it's going live. So it's I mean he had a he had a 15 person team Mm-hmm. I mean it reminded me a lot. I mean there's a movie set like a TV turns well his visions What what he's doing for his company? I feel there's so many parallels to what we're doing like when we talk I love talking to him off-camera and error. We could talk business and behind-the-scenes stuff and A lot of where where he's going what he's trying to do is very similar to what we are only we're more niche because it's our fitness, right and Talking to him is just fascinating like where what he's got planned and what he's doing inside that place I just don't I don't I could my girl would never go for it is 80% business in the home. Yeah, I mean you got we walk in and there's there's 15 people Although, I mean you could write off. You're probably a good chunk of your house, right? Well, if I wonder if the company fucking more home drive house So you're not really worrying about a tax write-off by having people I think you're I think you're looking at a tax Right off more because he may have his company may have bought the house He may have used it specifically for business and live in there. You know I'm saying I don't know Anyway, anyway, it was cool. So you got to you get to talk to him a good amount after like behind-the-scenes We got to hang out with him and then they had this whole panel that we're talking about this new product Which we're gonna interview right we'll save all that for the podcast of them Well, but dr. Drew was there which was cool and let me tell you to he out of everybody in that time There's probably 40 50 people in the audience. There was Six people on the panel and then there was a bunch of other people working there, right? I would say Dr. Drew it was really cool to see he ran the whole thing. He just so charismatic not only is he intelligent Such a salesman to oh, yeah, just working the room. He's been in the game for a long time Oh, and he saved it though, dude. There's there's times where Sal and I were like work because we're sitting there And we're like kind of like side chattering and stuff's going on like I would have totally asked this Oh, yeah, I would have challenged this or oh god. That didn't say why did she say that or why did he say that? And Drew every time would if so what we were thinking or saying about oh, that wasn't very small like he would totally cover for that person And the way he did it was so smooth and I was like god There's there is a a TV celebrity like like at it's at his work. He's just a performer Yeah, you could see an ironed out all the rough spots. Yes people and very very smooth So that performer and then and then one of my I mean one of the most brilliant minds alive today Dr. VS Ramachandra, which a lot of people don't if you know if you're not if you don't know neuroscience or you're not in that world You don't know who he is, but there's a lot of Very fascinating YouTube and Ted talks that he's conducted He's the inventor of the mirror box that solved the problem of phantom limb, which I've talked about on the show Brilliant brilliant man. So he was on there. I got to shake his hand Which was like fuck you I'm cool now you want to know something funny too like talk about like when you're in the Presence of someone like that brilliant. So imagine this he's on a live thing on a panel, right and He's like the the scientists on that panel now There's other guys that were brilliant doctors and minds on there But like, you know, he a lot of this stuff is from his research his original research Dude's just absolutely brilliant. He's like you got a pen and paper the whole time and he's like Driding and stuff. I'm like, what is he doing taking notes with that? Well afterwards we're talking to Tom and he's like, oh, yeah Like he won't just sit at a panel like that and just engage and be present that like he is constantly like working Equations and things out. So why they're on a live feed. You can see him and he's like working He's like working out formulas rain man. Yeah, totally like he'd say he and then every once Well, they would like call on him and be like and then he would answer whatever, you know And and even like the way he answered was so different than everybody else like everybody else that you could tell was, you know There was a little bit of a bias Yeah, but he was very much like a what a very what this what a scientist with high integrity would would say So when someone asks a question like is this perfectly safe, you know Someone selling a product like yes, it's perfectly safe and he's answering like well We don't we don't all we can never know if it's perfectly say it's safe But the research show so far shows this this and that like he's just a pure Scientist which again highly respected individual great guy. Yeah cool to cool to watch that and Tom was a great host man. I had a good time I know I'm not a big fan of traveling so much, but I don't mind doing It's funny. I like traveling in the sense that I going places and being there But I hate the process of it all and I really hate the eating I hate eating out because it fucks me up dude. It fucks out my stomach, but Take any stuff with you. No, dude, so I've been so I switched out my old probiotic For the organ if I won a while ago and I've been using it Uh-huh and it's one of the best ones I've ever used like my gut was totally fine. We ate out. We didn't eat bad I ate healthy. I did have a little bit of bread which normally would mess me up And my guts pretty good as a result. So I'll tell you a game change for me I did not have my my subs or any of that with me But what I we had a break before Tom so we did the two interviews in the morning and then we had Tom in the evening we had a about a two-and-a-half hour window and I Lay down put the brain FM in and the meditation and I didn't know I you said I was snoring I didn't know I snored every fucking night. Well, and I don't snore I was never sure You've shared a room and I definitely snore too. So I think the combo like we drown each other out Oh, it's he's sawing wood all fucking night. Of course. I was exhausted a Katrina will tell you like if I'm exhausted back That's it. Yeah, I saw this one back for sure, but you know, it was pretty crazy though It was the brain FM though. I had this knocked him out Yeah, I've knocked out for like 30 minutes came to and just felt so refreshed. I was like, oh, thank you Brain FM that say it out. Oh, yeah, and then I went had my little bath and then I was yeah Yeah, they took a bath Literally he gets up and he's like, I'm gonna go draw it for himself. I'm gonna go candle Which you know what he's like, I'm gonna go take a bath. Let me fuck. I do have a man I do have dudes. I do have a knock for Lux hotel. Okay bad ass you're talking about like this, you know four star five star whatever place super bougie and They're everything's super nice their bathtubs are like the fucking four and a half feet by Two feet deep and then though the thing only fills up to the little thing that switches over and it like so it drains out You don't even get your balls. So you might my balls are barely fucking wet, dude It's like it goes right to my belly button worse and I and I if I want to get my back wet and lay all the way Like down my feet and ass have to hang up in the air and I'm like Why are we still making bathtubs like this like our human humans are getting bigger not smaller? Because grown liability or something grown man six foot three or however our grown man don't draw a bath That's that's like a bath in the middle of the day. Well, that's because They don't realize the benefits of that. I'm telling you right now, man You do some brain FM get in a nice little bath and it'll just recharge your fucking day Yeah, I bet you tell it take anybody up on the Pepsi challenge and then he's in there calling me Sal Hey, Sal, can you come here real quick? Can you get this morning chocolate totally ignore a chocolate? God bring on the bird Today's quads being brought to you by Chimera coffee It's the only coffee that is infused with all natural Neutropics for a cleaner calmer and more focused buzz without the crash put the Chimera link at mine pump media dot com and input the Discount code mine pump a check out for 10% off All right, the first question is from Sal Margolo not fit Why do we as humans fear change even when things in life suck? We are afraid of change. Why is that change? What's the song? Isn't there a song about change change? I don't know I feel like we just made one up We'll Do you think there's some evolutionary purpose behind this Sal where it's like we are in search of finding Our body wanting to be comfortable our stress levels to be comfortable We're always seeking homeostasis, right? We're seeking homeostasis and then when we find it We want to stay there to maintain it and we don't want to come out of it Number one detective of it rule number one with evolution is to keep you safe So better safe than sorry is the rule that we will always our bodies will always try to live by So if you're in a position or you're in a situation that even if it sucks, but you're not dying It's safer than taking the chance of change which in for most the human evolution meant Risk great risk of death like if I'm in the cave and I've got you know some shitty food with me But I look out there and I'm like man I bet I could hunt and catch like that delicious meal over there, but then I'm gonna have to be around the lions and whatever The guy who took all the risks a lot of those people died and didn't procreate and a lot of the ones that stayed back And we're kind of pussies about it Survived so it's very natural for us to fear Any kind of a change at all. It's one of the actually it's one of the most difficult things that we encounter and it's funny because It's interesting, right? Like how many times like when we manage gyms. I know Adam's gonna know exactly what I'm talking about Justin were you too, right? We all worked in gyms like how pissed off Would members get if we moved a fucking machine? Yeah, like two feet Oh my god, like we would move a machine to a different part of the gym Almost a riot and we would get complaints left and right because it's different because people like things to be in the same place All the time to be predictable so yeah things have to be predictable and that's what creates that gives us that kind of false Sense of security change. I mean it requires work now to you know ramp up to adapt to this new Environment this new stimulus, whatever it is. It's like, you know from from that perspective. It's like, okay Great, you know, now I have to figure this out and and so just for people to be able to Get into the place. We're like, okay. Have everything managed. I have you know, my body is looking good You know, everything's going great for me at work and this and that and then you know This new change this interruption in the process is like it's a stress You know anxiety sort of just kicks in like immediately, you know It's such a it's such a life hack for those that put this together early if you And I wish I wish I had someone who mentored me and told me When I was younger because I think for a very large part of my you know growing up I think I avoided change and I didn't like Different or challenging myself or taking myself out of my comfort zone and really moving to the Bay Area when I was 19 was the first Real experience where I like took my like intentionally took myself out of my comfort zone and put myself in An environment that I knew I was gonna be uncomfortable and I knew I wasn't really going to like knowing that it would force change and knowing that it would end up forcing growth and It takes one or two times of you really stepping out and doing that before you start to realize Holy fuck like the more I do this and the more I challenge myself and the more afraid I am going into it the the greater the growth and the return is and then once you learn to hack into that You begin to seek that but it's hard because for the the for the most part Most of us more are afraid of that and so we avoid it and even if we do kind of do it We're like tiptoe into it. We I'm kind of changing but not really I'm still trying to stay comfortable when you really should go. I'm gonna fucking I'm all in I'm all in I'm gonna make this effort to change do something different and I feel like it applies to so much in our life We talk about it with the exercise and and things like that like forcing yourself Out of your comfort zone. It's it's amazing the growth that happens from that on so many levels We like things to be predictable, you know, I mean like we wake up in the morning all of us They wake up in the morning. I guarantee you right now if I ask you guys What do you do? What are the first five things you do when you wake up in the morning? It's the five same things that you do every single morning. I wake up and you know, whatever I take a shit check my Instagram. I go make my coffee wake up the kids whatever, but it's always in that same order Predictability means safety, but it sucks because it does like you said Adam. It prevents growth and A few if I think back to the times of my life where I Can look back now and say wow that was a great time of growth It was always Almost forced upon me, you know, I mean it was almost like I had to to you know Like it was like I lost a job or yeah, you know, I like You know, I'll never forget when I expanded my business when I had my wellness facility and expanded my business I had expended expanded to a second location and I had just overstretched myself and I had to try to carry the whole thing on my own and it didn't work out and When I had to shut down that second location I knew at that moment that I would at some point transition out from the brick and mortar side of fitness and It was terrifying, but it was also exhilarating I knew that the change would be good for me. So logically I knew that but it's terrifying because What's next like what am I gonna do next? I'm so used to this particular structure and what to expect Now, what am I gonna do? What am I gonna? You know, and it's it's quite empowering to be able to to realize that you can That you can do a lot more You know going on vacation with my girlfriend is a great example. She's because she traveled so much With the Cirque du Soleil. So when she was with the Cirque du Soleil, she went from country to country for I think she was doing it for I want to say four years or five years Where she would be in a country for two weeks to two months and then she'd move So, you know, imagine that right imagine moving that often and it's to a completely different country new language You get really good at it After a while. So the way she likes to travel is she literally likes to book trips and that's it She'll book the flight and I'll ask her like where are we gonna stay at what hotel and she's like, I don't know We'll figure out when we get there. Well, what are we gonna do? I don't know we'll figure out when we get there and that fucking drives me crazy because when I travel The way I travel I like to know everything that's gonna happen I like to know where I'm gonna stay who's gonna pick us up where we're gonna drive to and She she wanted to do that she wanted to do that in Thailand This is a you know country that I didn't even feel super comfortable going to anyway Even though it's Thailand just because I've only traveled to like Western European countries and she's just like yeah We don't need to book anything. We'll just we'll just go there and land and and figure it out Yeah, and it's like fucking terrifying, but I allowed myself to do a little bit of it I couldn't do all of it because it would have been too much for me. Yeah to do a little bit when we travel and It's actually fucking fun, dude Yeah, it's actually fun to realize that you can figure things out and do that kind of stuff But the bad thing about you know being stuck in a situation or being afraid to change is a lot of times It keeps people in horrible situations. Mm-hmm. Like you ever see people in these horrible relationships Where it's abusive whether it's emotionally or physically or whatever or a job that just sucks people that way That's the one that really trips me out people will stay in a job that just sucks For years because they're afraid of the potential of what could potentially happen if they just last year They're counting their losses, you know based off of like, you know, what this means What does it mean for me to change? What you know like a lot of times they won't change because you know It means you have to let like some of these things Die you have to let some of these like you have to you have to like absorb the damage You know and you have to you have to realize Yeah, you really have to recognize that it's not it's toxic. It's not working for you Like that's hard to do on its own is to just identify a lot of times when it's your environment or It's something that you're full vested in and it's not it's not benefiting you. Well, I I challenge I mean you you say that I think those are obvious, right? Like the the girl who's in the relationship and the guy's been beating her for two years and it's like get out of that What are you thinking? You know and it's so obvious and even she knows it But she's not doing it like or the friend that is in these these poor relationships Where they treat you like shit like those to me are always I think the ones that People have to look out for that are harder at the ones where we're very comfortable And we actually enjoy it and we like it and it's for example We talked to Sal on our trip and I explained to you that you know, I I stayed in the company For probably four years at 24 fitness. Yeah longer because I was making six figures I came and went as I wanted 401k benefits. I loved health and fitness. I love people I mean, it was good at my job and a name for myself like in in the company. It was a pretty cush situation for me I really really liked it, but I also wanted more for myself and I knew I was destined for more but at the same time too, I was comfortable and I hung around there for probably four years longer than what I should have Because of that and then afterwards when I think and really what I went and did ever That's when I transitioned over into the medical marijuana industry, which I don't need I didn't change right a huge change I didn't end up staying in that but it was the catalyst that really propelled to where we are now I mean, there was multiple things in between that but I asked I have to ask myself like men I could easily stayed and been that person because you know, I had my house. I'm paying my bills I had freedom. I love my job You know, I had all the things that you're supposed to have and be be happy and I was but I wanted more for myself And so I think the people that really have to challenge this are the ones actually that are it is good And you have to truly ask yourself Do you want more is do are you wanting more for your life? Or do you believe that there's more for you than what you're where you're currently at and then are you Doing the things necessary to make that change and more often than not it's training. Yeah Yeah, honestly, like there's so many parallels to you know, fitness and and that's I think that's That's why like, you know being growth-minded and You know that that took work like that took a lot of like black eyes It took a lot of lumps for me to Understand how to reframe my thought process when I when I dealt with change. That's a good That's a good word right there to say is any of you've used it before as reframing, right? Is you know people look at something and it's just like, oh my god, so scary so bad It's just so it's like it's like no, why why is it be so bad? Why is it to be so scary? Why is it to be so risky? How about it's like this is gonna be an incredible opportunity brace it right and get excited Yeah, here's a game that I play with myself whenever I'm gonna whenever I'm trying to billiards. Yeah, exactly I'm trying to make the decision for a big Change is I play this game. It's the what's the worst that could happen And then I imagine that the worst thing happened and then what would I do? Because I find that the thought of The worst that could happen is worse than if it actually did for example when I make a decision to start a new business Okay, what's the worst that could happen? It fails and then what I don't make any money and then what I lose my house I have to live with my parents. Is that really the most horrible thing in the world? You can think of no not a big deal like if I did that I could I know I could get back on my feet I know I could find a job. I know I could do these different things and once I become comfortable with The risk of the worst thing that could possibly happen Then the change no longer is a big issue for me because now I'm going there going fuck it like the worst thing this thing Can throw at me I can handle right so it's no longer a fear There's a quote that this reminded me of it was it's a very powerful quote that I read a long time ago And every once in a while I like to read it Here's the quote and the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom Very very powerful Quote I think that kind of connects to this whole changing thing that sometimes it's more painful to not change Then it is to change so remind yourself of that awesome. You're a flower Quick commercial break you guys we keep getting asked all the time. 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Yeah, I think the the biggest part of the transition will be the mental piece If you were a bodybuilder like myself, you're heavily focused on building muscle You're probably attached to that and and I mean just I love Being the big dude man I like walking in the gym and being one of the biggest biggest dudes in the gym It feels good it feels good to fill out all my extra large and some double XL shirts Like that's a good fucking feeling so when you when you attach yourself to a lot of that and then you decide You're gonna make this transition from being that guy to I'm gonna be this mobility guy There's a lot of things that are conflicting now. It doesn't mean you can't be super functional and fit We've talked about this a million times. Yes, but there is a mental transition that I had to make and We kind of talked about this in in previous episodes where you know I really talked like had this self-talk where I was like, okay Don't give a shit if I if like you just said Sal about how you You envision the worst-case scenario. That's how I envision like when I decided to go from bodybuilding to functional training I said, what's the worst thing that's gonna happen? Oh, I'm gonna lose 30 pounds of muscle And then I'll just have to work and get it all but like I started like telling myself What is the worst happen? I'm gonna get skinny and lean. I'm gonna lose all this muscle I'm not gonna be as strong and I started being but I was thinking like, okay, but I'm gonna be way more flexible I'm gonna alleviate a lot of the pain. I'm gonna I'm gonna feel better throughout the day. I'm gonna be way more mobile I'm gonna get more out of my exercise. It's like so I started like kind of talking to myself About what to expect and what the worst-case could look like and what I was trying to seek out of it And then and then I went to embrace it. I said, you know what? I don't give a shit if I'm gonna look leaner and then I started going after that with the same type of You know mentality as you you go after bodybuilding with this approach of sculpting the body only now you're heavily focused on moving better But it has to take those type of priorities I think the one of the reasons why you were successful at this Is you did not identify with being a bodybuilder, right, right? If you and here's this is the trick with with your body when it comes to training your body The minute you identify with a particular type of training or to particular type of look Yeah, you're fucked because now you're gonna lose the ability limited yourself. Yeah You're gonna lose the ability to have variety in your training you're gonna increase the risk of creating potential problems for yourself whether it's imbalances or Metabolic damage like you know if I identified so strongly with being super shredded all the time Then that means that I'm gonna raise my risk of metabolic damage If you are super identified with being a bodybuilder then trying to transition to functional training is gonna be impossible because You are going to see what you identify with start to change exactly what it's supposed to do right It's supposed to change if you're training in a functional way and not like a bodybuilder You can expect your body to change you can expect your movement to change But if you identified what if you were identified with what you're at now No way in hell you're gonna let yourself change We'll end up happening is to do you know a week or two of functional training and you'll be like fuck this I'm going right back to my bodybuilding because my barbell squat You know, I can't squat as heavy or my muscles don't look a sharp I don't look like a you know, I feel like I'm losing my gains or whatever you you have to you Definitely have to go in with with that in mind that you you can't attach yourself to the way you look right now And then you all said I'm gonna be super functional, right? So I think but what's exciting and I'll tell you because I'm back on the journey of being a bodybuilder again right now So I've been training you lowers his voice when he's right, right? I'm training to be a bodybuilder again right now. So, you know, I'm back up to my 225 range I came all the way down to about 210 was the lowest I think I got when I was you know, purely focused on functional training and there were moments I remember thinking to myself like fuck am I is it gonna be tough for me to get it back? It wasn't at all. It mean it took me took me about a month to get my rhythm back where I was starting to increase my volume And it took me about two months to really start to see myself growing again And I'm I think I'm at month three right now of training and I feel fucking great. I have better range of motion ever had I'm back to what all my PR weights were and squatting and deadlifting and I feel better than I've ever felt and I and I'm not I'm not as Aesthetically put together as I am when I get a speech, but I also haven't it's only three months in you know Give me three more months of sculpting and we'll see where I'm at So as far as a protocol, I'll give you kind of what I did even though I don't I think that there's a lot of individual variants and you know, this may work for you may not but I started off with maps prime and What I did was I said, okay I'm gonna make like because I didn't do this before I'm gonna make sure That I every single workout I spend 15 minutes at least on maps prime And I started priming my body better than I've ever primed before That was the beginning and I did that for the first couple weeks of like just just making it a habit for myself That this is now becoming a priority where I would if I only had 40 minutes to work out in the past I might neglect that priming to make sure I got my bodybuilder lift in because I got a I got hit my muscles To make sure I stay big and muscular Where now I said that's not as much of a priority if I only got 40 minutes to work out I'm still getting my 15 minutes of prime that just means I'm only hitting the weights for you know 30 minutes or whatever so that's kind of how I started and I ran that way for probably a good solid month And then I started to build upon that and this is kind of where the evolution of maps prime pro came is Then I started to implement a lot of the maps prime pro tools that we have in that program on my off days And so then I would come to the gym and I would actually do nothing But my prime and prime pro movements where I'm just focusing on my my mobility So and I started off with that just two times maybe three times a week And then it got to the point where I was enjoying the the progress so much I started to increase the volume in my functional training just like I would In bodybuilding, you know, I start off bodybuilding and I start to get adapted and then I start to increase volume I did the same thing with my functional training started off with prime after I was doing that for about a month Then I started to incorporate separate days by themselves one or two days a week and then after that then before you knew it I was spending sometimes a week of like all functional type training And then I would just kind of sprinkle squats and deadlifts or overhead press big compound movements and there to make sure I kept I do sprinkle squats Just to make sure that I kept some of my muscle while I was doing this knowing damn Well, that that wasn't the priority that functional training had now become this and that was kind of how I managed that and I was I mean, it's been almost a year now. You guys say well, how long has it been you did a long up for a while And there were some pitfalls along the way You maybe cover that a little Adam Oh, you mean is when I was challenging to see how because I think when you're doing this when you start to transition if you make the full Transition and you really commit to it You'll see some really promising progress and you you may be, you know, you may be motivated to push it Yeah, push that progress. Yeah at the beginning. I did this a couple times and I learned I learned the hard way And I think it was the second second time that it happened to me where I realized, okay Yeah, I need to quit fucking around with who cares about my PR's who cares about how strong I am right now It's not about strength about how functional I am in my mobility and what I was doing was I was I was getting excited because I was Okay, I'm starting to actually put this to practice and after a month's time I was already seeing increased range of motion and I wanted to test it I wanted, okay, I got new range found range of motion Let's see if I can still squat 400 pounds in that new found range of motion and that was pretty stupid And I know saying that out loud right now in the podcast sounds really stupid to like Adam You should know better, but you know, fuck you until you try it and do it yourself It's tempting as fuck to do that because you feel great and you noticing new things and you know The athlete in me wanted to do that and test it and I learned the hard way hurt myself set myself back again So, you know, you're gonna have these moments where you start to see that and you're gonna want to do that And I just I just you know Stress saying to you that listen don't do that continue to work on on the mobility keep working on on the new found Range of motion and strengthening that but doing it right and starting really really light Yeah, this always kind of comes back to kind of our core principles, right? It's the said said principles specific Added what is it against specific adaptation of post-demand so Basically like if you just keep that in mind always is like your body is gonna respond very specifically to what you're telling it to do like it has to have it's working towards a goal and Whatever that goal is and how long you want that goal to? Draw out for like that's what you're telling your body every day to do and so You know if this is your new goal like just just focus on that focus on it, you know be open to it and You know just completely Wrap your entire efforts around this direction and then you know you come back and you introduce another goal and I and I even say go that way even with your nutrition because I saw benefits of that I was eating lower calorie and so I noticed and I wasn't eating as much carbohydrate. I was doing more of a Keto-ish type of diet where I was on much higher fat So I saw inflammation down So I was doing all these things that I thought would promote better mobility and and functionality in my body By the way I ate the way I moved the way I trained and I fully embraced that with knowing knowing damn Well that I was going to lose some muscle on the way But not fearing that knowing that they listen I've been doing this my whole life I can put some muscle back on and I'm actually extremely surprised on how quick I had told myself that it could potentially take a lot longer than what it has and I'm I'm back to Feeling pretty damn good and I would say like looking at my physique if I'm being completely objective I would say I'm probably Three months out from having my body look ready for a pro show in men's physique You know if I'm being completely honest like I mean I could technically get on a stage in four weeks If you got a bodybuilder I know these are got to be the things that are probably spinning around in his head That's that he's concerned about and you know if you really really want to make an effort to do this Don't freak out man. You'd be surprised how fast you could get that muscle right back and this time around moving a lot better HMEZ for What do you think about deload weeks and do you implement them into your own routine? This was a question that Jay asked Sal and I yeah on Renegade radio. So so deload weeks are very important They should be scheduled Into your routine and so they and they should be scheduled Right after you start to hit a peak Not when you start to notice a decline in performance I know a lot of people will do a deload week when they notice that they're plateauing Or their body stops responding at that point. It's kind of too late already. You've already now you got to kind of fight Go fight an uphill battle because your body now is starting to regress When we design Matt our maps programs They're all phased and there are no deload weeks in there because phasing your workouts really means you don't need to do a Scheduled deload because the target adaptation changes And our phases last anywhere between two to four weeks depending on the program We know and studies will show That adaptation really settles in around for around week number four And so most of our programs will phase you out of that before that so I used to do this problem all the time Like I'd go hit a new PR in a deadlift and the following week I'm like, oh dude I know I can get into the five or ten pounds and I push and try and squeeze out into the five or ten pounds and Inevitably I would set myself back or I would sometimes even injure myself in reality That's the best time to do a deload like I just hit a PR now next week is gonna be an easier workout or a change Yeah And I think too even I've seen people use our maps anywhere program for this to kind of focus a little bit more on body weight training And go through a period of that even if you need like a little bit more of a transition away from Loading your body constantly so you know like we do have it planned out So the adaptation is something completely different that you're gonna step into which you know It's another ramp up phase You're gonna go into this new adaptation with a little bit lighter load and kind of ramp back up with a new focus However, some people have found benefit to using that method. Yeah, I would like to hear you guys Share, you know because what I'm thinking right now to like all the people we've trained You know, how often did you actually have to schedule a deload for clients? Was this something that you had to do on a regular basis or was it more rare that that was even necessary to do More for the athletes that I used to train that would would aggressively get through these workouts And I would I would literally have to like put them on a deload, right? I feel I feel like I can only count maybe a handful of people they were rare that were so consistent and And hardcore about their training that I needed to have them back off. I felt that most people Find enough excuses to back off of training that Scheduling in a deload. I mean, it's crazy. How many people it's rare to find somebody who can follow a actual program to a tee for You know six to twelve these are these I feel like this question is is most appropriate for people that like still max out in their workouts Yep, right and so they're they're already recognizing that their body's taking on damage constantly and they haven't caught up Well ideally okay ideally speaking if you can be very objective and read your body very well You'll know when to deload you'll know when to set up a deload and when to come out of a deload Here's the problem. The problem is we were typically pretty shitty at being objective about ourselves So when I trained clients I was an excellent trainer at identifying this stuff So I never had to have a scheduled deload because I could tell when I'm training my client that oh it looks like This workouts gonna be easier and it looks like we're gonna drop the intensity here Well looks like we're gonna raise the reps or lower the rate or raise the weight Now I would do scheduled deloads for myself because I was terrible For myself because for whatever reason and all the trainers listening. I know you guys can connect with this For some reason you assume that you're you don't the rules don't apply to you You know I'm saying like oh, I'm different I'm a train press the boundaries further than you would with your client absolutely so That's when I would have to schedule them for myself and that's why The programs the maps programs have scheduled phases Ideally you would be able to know when you would exit phase one and move into phase two and exit phase two move into phase three Unfortunately, it never works out that way Most people need someone to tell them or have something structured so that they move out Out of a phase when it's when it's ideal because like I said When you when it's time to move out of a phase of training is right around the time You feel best in that phase so I'll give you an example if I start a phase three of like maps enabolic We'll use that example because that's the most common maps program people enroll in so phase three of maps enabolic is What we call sarcoplasmic hypertrophy or chasing the pump so the reps are much higher There's a lots of supersets. So it's a faster pace You're doing supersets. You're doing higher reps and the goal is to get this crazy pump Now the first week you do this phase because you're transitioning from phase to the first week you do phase three sucks You go into phase three and it's exhausting You're burning out your weight. You're gonna have to drop the weight considerably. You're breathing really hard. You're like, oh my gosh This is fucking terrible. This is so hard by the time you get to week two You start to feel better and you're like, okay, I'm starting to get the hang of it Still feels terrible, but I'm starting to get the hang of it by the time you get to phase three You're like, fuck. Yeah, this feels great. I'm getting crazy pumps. I've got all the stamina. I feel awesome That's when you switch out of phase three now most people at fit at that third week would be like awesome I'm gonna keep doing this phase now because I feel so great and then they would wait Until that phase three stops producing results and by that point now you've gone too far now You got to kind of back out of it. Now that being said, I think there's there's a ton of individual variants. Yes, somebody And and I'm using this exact example I typically stretch my phase three in our programs out to four to five weeks because I just Respond well. I continue to grow I don't take on a lot of damage because it's high reps and lower weight I feel like my body can handle that longer before I have to transition out and I still can see gains Now that's me personally right and I don't share that a lot on the show because we recommend to everybody to follow The program to a tee the first time you go through it But these are the ways that you can kind of play with that But that's why we we kind of on all the programs we bowed on the or we lean towards the Lighter side of like the three to four week range when some people may be able to stretch it as far as five or six weeks But we know for sure that's enough time for them to get some of the major adaptation benefits And so we know we're getting the peak of it Some people may be able to ride that peak a little bit longer But we know they've got most the max benefits and it's definitely a time for them to transition out and they're gonna continue to see Benefits that way. So that's why we lean more that way Yeah, but you got to be careful too because you're gonna find a favorite phase of training. Well, and that's what's most common, right? Yeah, like I'll stay in phase one for fucking months because I love that phase one. I love heavy lifting I love yeah high volume low rep, you know sets and it's my favorite thing to do and I'll ride that shit for way Too fucking long and start to get negative results and your joints start hurting Yeah, for sure. That's the one that I think a lot of people get stuck in exactly quick commercial break Hey, people ask us all the time how they can support mine pump. 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So we're nobody is perfectly symmetrical on on the left and the right side Nobody is as much as they want to be and say they are that nobody's perfectly symmetrical Now that being said there are a lot of different things that can be contributing to this Especially when you're talking about like the biceps, right? You're you can be overcompensating on one side more than the other You can have a more dominant hand and you don't even realize it But you tend to use it more when you're doing things that require more strength You know if you have a strong hand and you go to pick something up that only requires one hand You typically lean and grab that with what your strong hand. That's already developed So and when you add that up over years and years and years and we talk about we the importance of frequency All the time we're just that load of moderate dose of you know Intensity that you're constantly doing more on one side So, you know, you get you're getting that sort of muscular development But meanwhile when you go to do like a full like loaded strength with both arms like a like an exercise with both arms You maintain that same that same strength on both sides But you know, it's more central nervous system That's you know at play there versus like the constant right pump that you're given one side And I tend to switch clients over to a lot of unilateral movements And then what I do is I have them start with the weaker side So let's say you're going through one of our maps programs and this is again where we encourage people to modify and mold So let's say the we're gonna you okay. We're use arms because that's what it what it is And there's a barbell row in our in all of our programs, right? So barbell row is in there that person I may have them do a dumbbell row and they'll do a single arm dumbbell row in replace of that movement and Then I'm going to have them start on the weaker arm And so let's say they're in a phase where we call for 10 reps I'm gonna say start with the weaker arm first and our target is 10 reps It's the same thing and then they they get to 10 reps and they said well Let's say they can only get to nine with good form I have them stop at nine and then the other arm I mirror that even though they could probably do 11 12 or 15 reps with the stronger arm because it's that much it's that much stronger than the other side So I'm always going to start with the less dominant the minute that form And so that's and the important piece is that when you got to notice when the form starts to break down So if we're imagining you doing a dumbbell row with your right arm right now And I'm thinking about you rowing and that like you can get ten out But at seven and eight form starts to break down you've got to stop right there This would make sense, but he's saying that he has the same strength on both sides So, you know, it's more like I'm trying to think like from more of a muscular development side Obviously, it's gonna take trigger sessions. Yeah trigger sessions on the small arm. It's a very this is an easier fix than having a Difference in strength. Yeah, if it's believe it or not If it's a smaller in size on your off days do trigger sessions for the smaller arm Get a little bit of a pump in it for five minutes, you know, three times a day your frequency and that's well There's the reason why I was using a row as an example is and because a lot of times People like so he thinks that they're the same strength because maybe he does dumbbell pearls Yeah, so he's compensating on the bilateral movement. Yes So he thinks that he's the same strength, but Mechanically, he's probably got something on like his big movements like back and chest and other movements like that Where one side the stronger side is overcompensating and so he's getting less development in the secondary muscles make way more sense It's I bet it is I mean that for me and in my experience all the clients that I've trained that have a Visual difference. There's normally a mechanical difference, too That has caused that very few people are born genetically with a big way bigger bicep than the other If it's enough to where you can see it with your own eye or even measure it with a tape measure Then there's probably some sort of dysfunction or mechanical breakdown in some of your big motor movements And so then again, this is why I know you said biceps, but I used back as an example because You know this guy when he does a barbell row with both arms doesn't even realize it But he's getting way more. He's generating out of the side That's more dominant and looks bigger But and he doesn't even realize it because he's using both both sides at the same time Do you guys know why? One of the prevailing theories as to why humans have a preference to one hand or the other So this is fascinating. I would I would think that's something to do with the brain and I would side the brain Well, there's that right so we know why because the the left the left hemisphere of the brain is the one that controls Certain functions and so that they think that's why most people are right-handed But why are we right or left-handed and one of the theories that I found this fascinating is Because of all of all animals on earth humans do some pretty spectacular things And one of those things that we do is we throw with incredible accuracy better than any animal on earth We can throw with incredible distance and an absolute accuracy And we probably evolved this skill from spear because we were hunters Yeah, and because it was so Important to our survival and our evolution and our ability to make tools that we they can throw and take down animals much larger than us and it became more efficient to Evolve this to be able to get the skill on one side of our body versus Generous, you know having all these resources go to developing this on both sides Although sometimes that exists as well, and if you practice with both sides But it's just more efficient to pick a side and then master because people don't realize this when you throw something I actually watched a documentary on this when you throw something the math and physics involved that your brain has to calculate to Know how to throw it with the right distance when something's running and traveling to be able to hit it at the right angle Whatever it's pretty fucking phenomenal. Yeah math increases when you're trying to catch it. It's incredible. It's very predictive Yeah, I mean, you know a major league baseball player can throw a 90 mile an hour Yeah, I mean fastball with ridiculous accuracy, and so they think that's why humans have this I can see that I mean that theory makes sense like people naturally gravitate to one side Babies do it. Yeah, you can tell when babies do people play We used to do Like so if you brought somebody who's never wakeboarded never snowboarded never did anything like that before We would do a test with you where we just you have you stand on a ledge And then we push you and we don't tell you we're gonna do that And you just you pay attention to what foot you step forward with early break their legs You'll not you'll naturally right away go to your your dominant your dominant side will stay behind and your weaker side will come forward and So you right away can tell if that person's regular goofy foot and you they can have never read it's a Skateboard snowboard or any of those things before but they'll have a natural right away. They'll step in the direction So my question is I I I read something somewhere I don't know if this was a legit study or not that like predominantly like most Psychopaths were left-handed creative people Are higher per a higher proportion of them are left-handed than the normal population and Yes, I think you're right and I think people with mental disorders, but there is a strong correlation and also highly certain certain types of science there is a strong correlation with Creativity and mental illness also So and I think you kind of see that with like musicians and artists a little bit. Yeah, I can see that We're also one-eyed Blood people don't know that too like if you are aiming at something you tend to favor an eye that you'll look through Yeah, so and it's all at all. I mean the theory or clarity on one side It's just your brain will process it better and it's all goes again. It goes to that theory of like we evolved Developing these skills will throw with accuracy so we can that's weird if I close my eye I feel like I do favor my left eye. Yeah, and I think I don't look this up, but I think that's the case I think if you're right-handed you typically are left-eyed Which again if you're throwing it sounds funny again if you're throwing you're looking across Right if you're throwing with your right your left hip is forward so you could generate power right stepping forward Yeah, you're probably gonna look with your left and throw with the right I don't know about that one. I don't look that one up with that one kind of well now that's interesting because now that's funny because When I shoot a gun I have to totally like think about which one I'm supposed to close my right eye And it's good It's confusing one for me because I shoot from the opposite side that I actually use as dominant for me Yeah, so that's that makes a lot of sense now because when I go to these shooting ranges I always have to like are you your left-handed right? Yeah, I am for sports And if I were to throw a spear throw up throw a ball it all come from my left But then I do all my finesse things with my right, so I write with my right I brush me with this right. I brush my teeth with my right. I eat with my right So all all finesse your ambidextrous. Yeah, I guess kind of but I can throw by handed easy Yeah, I mean I could throw with my I can throw with my right probably as good as you can throw with your right So I mean you guess you could call me every dexterous Yeah, thanks Adam. 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