 Yes, you said a couple times about Jesus speaking to you, directed for Jesus speaking to you, I'm wondering how that voice comes to you? Is it through symbols? Is it through words? Is it through knowing? If it isn't knowing, then it puts you a question from last night of discernment that you go over if your spirit has come to you. The question is about the voice of Jesus and relating to that. Well, I had been raised in Christianity in the Protestant faith in a denomination called United Church of Christ and I remember years going to church, Bible school in the summer and so on and so forth. But I can't say that I really felt a very, very close connection. It was more like it was just, it was almost like the imprint. That was the conditioning that was there as part of the family and so on and so forth. And then I went through university, I went through a lot of disillusionment, a lot of tears, a lot of soul searching, a lot of exploring, a lot of different theologies and pathways. And then when I came to the Course it was almost like, initially like rediscovering Jesus. Like they sometimes talk about a born-negative experience. It was like, oh, this is brand new. Almost like I didn't even know you at all, kind of a feeling. But it was very heartwarming. And initially it was more of an inner knowing and a sense of like a little tickle in my heart. It didn't have any kind of audible kind of words to it. Occasionally I would think I maybe would hear a word of comfort that I couldn't tell whether that was just me, the ego, just throwing in a word, almost like a little affirmation or something, or it was the presence. And then I immersed myself into a Course in Miracles. I just kind of like, for like I say, two and a half years I was reading it for about eight hours a day. And through that immersion process of just like, I wasn't reading any other books, I wasn't even looking at newspaper or magazine, I was just like, opening the book like an oracle and letting it answer questions for me and then getting excited and very passionate about the answers and go into it that way. That went on for about two and a half years. It wasn't like a, as Helen Shuckman has said, it wasn't like an audible voice, but it was like this clear stream of thoughts that was very distinctive and it had a presence with it, was very calm and a sense of certainty. Like this stream of thoughts was something that I really knew that would do me no good to question. Like this stream of thoughts was reflecting a state of really true knowing with absolute certainty. And it was so friendly too, it was like a friendly feeling with it. And then I just started to follow what it would ask me to do. And it was very specific. It wasn't like all this love and la da da da da. It wasn't like that at all. You know, do this, pay back this loan, call so and so, go here, you forgot your keys, turn lights. You know, it was extremely specific. And I just discovered really that by following what it wanted me to do, that I was very joyful. And it was very specific too, sometimes when I would talk about Course in Miracles teachings, teachings from the Bible, the apostles, Course in Miracles teachers even. It would be giving me this running commentary. For example, like in the late 1980s, it said, you know, we're going traveling. Okay, I don't know how that's going to work. And we would go, and I would go around, I took trips up to the Foundation for Course in Miracles. It was then in Roscoe, New York, in the Catskill Mountains. And I would go sit there quietly and be at a workshop, for example, with Ken Wobnick. And while Ken was teaching, I was getting a commentary on the teaching in my mind. It was just saying, that's a good point, remember this. And in any places where there was additional commentary, it was necessary for clarification, like on level confusion or different areas where I had questions, it was like a back and forth. It was like a running commentary. Then when I would get out of the workshop, it's almost like a Jesus Musac channel or something. It's like, oh my God. So then we got our own Jesus channel. It was like songs that would be inspiring. We said Mozart took down the music and August Rush and on and on. So a lot of time I wasn't pondering questions of the universe, or I wasn't wondering about things in the world. I was just relaxing and then I would get this beautiful music, an angelic music that would come in. Which I thought was also from Jesus, very much inspired. And so thus began my work with the Course in the sense that people have said to me, who in the Course in Miracles community has been your teacher? And I didn't have one. I had this connection with Jesus in my mind, telling me very specifically what to do, where to go. It wasn't like I really had a lot of resistance to it. Like with Helen Shockman, she had enormous resistance to that voice. He would have to say, what I told you was this, what you wrote was that. Now go back. It was a very slow, tedious process of seven years. I pretty much loosened from my self-concept of academia, of even wanting to be a Course in Miracles teacher, or having a Course in Miracles career or any of that stuff. And so I really didn't have a lot of resistance to what he was guiding me to do. And then at some point as I came further and further into it, this seeming duality between David and Jesus or between the channeler and the channel and all this and that, that started to just collapse. I started to feel this unified experience. And then it was going full circle back to this knowing feeling. And this involuntary sense that I didn't know what was coming out of my mouth and neither did I control it. So therefore I didn't have to know what to say. Oh, that's comforting. And very much like Wayne Dyer, you know, just show up and boom. It just comes. But there's no sense of what am I going to talk about, what will the topic be. It's just very involuntary.