 What's up chat? What's up YouTube man? If you're a YouTube man hit that comment section Let me know you're checking in. Let me know you're here if you're in the chat. Put your favorite emo in the chat This is the need a podcast episode 81 81 Street Weeks chat Appreciate all the support y'all had this week was crazy. We had the Madden Bowl the Madden Bowl ended The Madden Bowl was I overall we can just go ahead and give the man boy big W right chat We can't we cannot Discount the Madden Bowl being a W this week without a doubt. No, I mean EA ran it pretty much flawlessly from home Everybody being home. I feel like it's got to be a W. I feel like it was it was really well done for everything Considered everything to happen With the virus with everybody being stuck at home. I mean And you're talking about sending all this equipment To people that don't necessarily know how to use it You know and walking them through it. I mean it really was a big W and everything went good You know other than you know Cleffa Boogs did not win But you know that's okay because we've been down before and and we're gonna be back up there him saying But anyway joke did win it was his first belt. It was his first championship after being there so many times But and without further ado, man, like I said, this is I am Bless that every belt winner has come on a podcast the Tuesday after they win and talk about the event now There's a lot to talk about Joke obviously has a lot of history and MCS and a lot of different things to discuss between the team between the different matchups And then ultimately he thinks that his Madden 20 year was the best MCS year ever now You know, it's my place to disagree and we will do that later in the show But first without a any further ado has been a man both champion Raidell joke Brito my guy Yo, what up? What's the word man? How are you? How you doing first things first? Congratulations. I know it was a lot of work. I know you put in a lot of effort To this Madden thing competitively and it finally paid off for you So has this sunk in yet, you know two or three days later. I Don't think it's gonna sink in honestly till I get the belt, which they just shipped so like until I get it I don't think so like I've kind of just been like it's kind of still like crazy that I finally won one It's like you kind of always go into a tournament thinking you're gonna win But like you get me you never really think you're gonna win until you finally win So it still hasn't really hit me honestly Okay, there you go and my man silent right there with the five gifted my guy So I mean it is kind of tough like all right I finally won after being in you know 20 live events, you know So so many majors your whole life and this is the one where you got to wait for the belt So it's kind of like damn all one but damn I still got a way a little bit longer But so so talk about that as opposed to you know being right there Yeah, that's what I'm saying like it still doesn't even like I feel like I'm gonna feel like I finally actually won once like the belt comes in There's like you know every tournament obviously that like you know the thing everybody wants to do is like You know raise the belt say you won and then obviously after that you go out you party where everybody like you know I wasn't able to do that like My my partying was going upstairs and drinking while my brother I honestly little man was supposed to come to my house. Wow But love not a little man is bucking me. So little man. You're the chat Yeah, little man was supposed to come over and get drunk with me and you know, I won one Saturday It's Monday and my guy still hasn't came over. So that's rough man is bucking me. That's a L I'm gonna be honest. I mean listen if little man won you'd be there first of all We got it this month because there was a rumor that you were in little man's closet the whole time He was playing that was a rumor going on shout him to play is making sure he was right So I mean that's just something they said and you know, I don't know if it's true But talk about preparation between having somebody in your group That's also like in the same spot of the tournament as you did you guys work together a lot or a little? How was that down to that goal? So honestly, most of my lab and I did not well Honestly, all of my lab and I did would be why Tony and Chai's and obviously like You know, whatever we found or like if little man was laughing We shared like, you know, whatever we found and then it was kind of cool because like little man played before me So little man, you know, obviously play cleft. So just going into that game I knew you know cleft and pop and would obviously run the same defense or you know cleft and I mean I thought cleft and junior would run the same defense So I kind of got to watch that game and see what cleft was doing against little man So I kind of went into my game with rainy kind of having a good, you know general concept But what runs was going to work against them? So it was kind of cool that little man play first because I get to see what you know What adjustments if any cleft is making from the day before? So I got to see that and I got to see like there was a few runs that I was going to do against That wouldn't have worked that I would have just wasted a few downs on and I played him first So like getting you know to see little man play cleft first was good And do you think that's almost and at the same token do you feel like Drini? Kind of got a look at some of the runs that you might have tried You know with little man playing before you do you think because because that was always something I remember skimbo was big on this like I remember man 18 We were in the same group, right and you think we would like practice for the people we had to play Right, but he was like no, I don't really want to like do the same thing to them because then they'll be ready for it When I'm playing, you know, so was there any thoughts of that? To be honest, yeah Like I kind of wanted to try to hide like because I knew I was gonna run a lot of windflakes close because They have really good defense against like to all the two receiver sets So I kind of knew I was gonna a lot of run a lot of windflakes close and like at first You know, I was like damn I kind of don't want to show a little man, but then you know at the end of the day, too It's like, you know, if little man wins, I'm gonna be happy just like if I won So I was like, you know, I ended up showing them like everything, you know All the runs that I like and that obviously he already felt comfortable going into, you know the clutch blame on defense because He was running match and that's actually something I tried to do So after grow up groups I actually I hit up Sean trying to switch my playbooks because like I know in the past we've been able to switch our playbooks After after groups, so I did want to switch playbooks because I wanted to you know, I wanted good I wanted to go to Green Bay to have the defense that little man and draining ran I mean little man and D cross ran and I actually wasn't able to which is why I had to run Nickel normal if I wanted to run match But like I did try to change my playbook because a little man So that's just something I wasn't a lot to do obviously So I was like, you know, little man if little man had found something and I played first He wouldn't told me so I did the same That's that is the advantage to Having a group so strong doesn't know in the same you know the same spot in the tournament as you now I mean, I mean you brought up the group pretty much every time you talk to you talk about you know, like you said VY franchise and Tony, um, I As a side note right here that I just want to ask you Who do you think in your group that is like the next person to really pop up and and really you know Either win a belt or make a really long run that hasn't you know in the last three or four years So for me, I would say like somebody like it probably be why Because VY is honestly one of the best matter minds in the world and he puts the time in And I think now that he's you know, obviously a part of E&B where we're gonna help him just as much as he helps us I think it's really gonna make him a much better matter player So I would definitely say be why because VY really does know the ins and outs of the game He knows every single thing that you need to know about Madden and he plays just as much as anyone And when I'm telling you like this is like a legit stat. There was so many games where I played where VY was just laughing with me where my running back was Permanently baby blue because I ran the ball so much for them that I couldn't get them to full blue anymore He was just permanently tired. There was one game where he let me run 88 times against them So it's definitely one of those guys that you can tell is committed to being good at Madden Mm-hmm. I think he's gonna have like a really big year next year for sure for sure All right I want to talk about this team because we brought him up made two weeks ago on on a show about your team and What kind of went into making it because I like you as you said it earlier that Thought there was no chance that that no quarterback was ever going to win when the this tournament again You know at the vote did it so talk about the first of all, that's the first decision you have to make is when I'm not going with a quarterback So I honestly there was two things out like there was basically I was gonna play either that I was gonna play the game either three ways Option a was I was gonna use Vic with hot rod master and escape And I was gonna have gale sayers and I was gonna kind of try to play like greeny But I was obviously gonna have Vic when doing that when I tried that honestly like I just wasn't really playing good offense Anytime I play Frank Clark. He just ruined my life. So I'm like alright So I'm like I throw this away this can't work So then I tried to play like you know how dreamy played with hot rod master and I had a secure protector and then again, I just wasn't really scoring enough I was losing more than I was winning and You know like I wasn't even really getting stops because if you spend that much at my offense like your defense is usually pretty bad so then Jaber was telling me how like yo 10 cat quarterback is still good and I was telling him like now that shit sucks Like there's no way that you know like I remember one night. I've chised just kept like yo You need to use 10 cat corb. I was like Chai's stop fucking telling me this I'm never abusing a 10 cat quarterback immatable and it got to the point where like Chai's was really like like I was ready to kill Chai's so like a few days later. I play on I Play J-bird and J-bird was using the other two quarterbacks with nasty streak And honestly like I it was hard to stop like he was running for a consistent yard on me And I was in 35 wide. I had inside stuff. I was a whole lot like this might be the move You know, so he sends me his team. I make a few changes to like make the team You know kind of how I wanted it So he had Christian accrued he had a few players that I didn't like I changed the team around a little bit So then I started playing Tony I started playing BY and and I'm running on three five wide like the traditional spread lineup I was running for 200 a game on that So I started running that and you know not here. I am I'm winning every game again. Like I'm not getting on points I played jet. I played J wall. I played D cross a lot going into the tournament and J wall in my opinion It's the best offensive player, you know in the game right now. Yeah, and J wall wasn't scoring much on me So I was like, all right, this might really be the move. So now I'm kind of thinking like, yo I think I'm gonna lock this in so it got it got to the point where I'm like, all right I'm just gonna I'm just gonna basically play to the extreme. I got to the forum I'm like either I have to pass every single play or run every single play and obviously I ran every single play all year So I was like whatever like I'm gonna go out how I came in like, you know Basically, like if I lose with a tent cap like it is what it is And then going into the tournament I felt really comfortable honestly like if everyone would have just ran the regular 3d5 yd Where they just shut the lineup like I would have ran for 200 games But like, you know 808.8 and obviously dreamy and them did a good job of like adding their own little mix to it and like switching I mean uh shooting the gap out of 3d5 y which made me spend so much time like labbing against that Because most of the rush that I was used to running like didn't work against that at all That's a good point and and and that is something that I love and it made me When my belt was the time that you have in between games You know where you go to the man classic. There's no time So essentially what you're telling me is if this was a one day tournament or back to back to back to back to back You don't run for any yards. Do you feel that way? So if it's a one day tournament, no if it's like a day where I get a you know, like a whole day to lab maybe Because so basically what happened was I went in my group, right and I honestly didn't start, you know playing the game until Maybe a day before I actually had no I think two nights before I actually had to play And you know all we were doing was just trying to find runs So maybe like if it's the same day, I I've definitely had no chance because it took a lot of like it took a lot of Practice and time to even find, you know decent runs against the defenses. They were running So if it's a one day tournament, I there's no chance I win if it's a day by day tournament maybe because I got to basically practice against one defense every day because Even and you know Drini both ran different defenses So maybe one day I think I still win But if it's one, I mean if it's like every other day, like, you know, we play one game a day Then yeah, I think I still win if it's one day one day tournament, no chance Yeah, so that's not and that's and that's just how do people utilize their time You know in between games is important aspect and and what goes back to the people you have in your camp And they obviously helped you a lot We'll talk about these nasty streaks because I mean from the first look the first game is because Uh, three three five wide that nickel back lines over top of the tackles. Is that why we went with those or what? Yeah, so like I knew three to five wide obviously was going to be the you know The meta defense that everyone ran it like if somebody ran three four because I had nasty streak Like I would have spent 600 cap on it because three four was not good against the run So I knew people were going to run three to five wide and from playing, you know Decropped and playing j y I knew that the adjustment people were going to make Against the nasty streak was backing up the slot corner and it had a bunch of different motions and different run plays That really worked against that So it was better like I had more runs if you backed up the slot corner So I kind of went with that because I felt like you know when you when you're running an offense Where you can only run the ball you got to give yourself a chance to you know Have big plays and honestly had I seen somebody like had I seen Noah play? I probably would have gone with human joystick instead and kind of just use the same exact team But I didn't honestly I couldn't figure out a good way to use a human joystick and still have like Frank Clark with power specialist and have all the dvs So that's why I went with nasty streak because it was less cap And it still let me know have all the everything I needed on defense Which was like, you know the best players at every decision with Frank Clark, you know with the power specialist Now the backup running back. I feel like I don't know why people don't have backup running backs You know, I think that's always a good move just to give yourself somewhere else to go with the ball, right? I mean, that's no brainer to me if you're a runner. Yeah, I agree I that's one thing I didn't like about Noah's team and you know both they both had Low-cap juicet and then the big reason was like, you know, Franco Harris really didn't play that big of a You know that part of the tournament and honestly, it's because a lot of people played really good defense But the games where I ran for a lot of yards Uh, I was out of land a lot and doing a lot of motions and flipping and utilizing, you know Tressway being able to hand off the ball with this left hand So I had to go with you know, somebody like sometimes it was going to be gale I gave him the ball three times I was going to have to bring in franco Harris because I didn't want to just cycle my formations 20 seconds of play because I'm wasting too much time when I'm doing that So I thought it was just a better strategy to have a backup running back and just run the ball Two or three times with gale cycle as little bit as possible and then so basically my strategy was as soon as gale got baby blue I would uh, no as soon as he got yellow. I would get him to baby blue I would run one play with franco Harris and that would give me three more plays with gale So it would save me a lot of time throughout a game Especially like when I don't got a cycle for three straight plays for 20 seconds That saves me a minute and when you're running the ball every single play like every second counts Which is why I decided to go with like a backup running batter All right. Here's a question. I don't know. All right. So, you know, obviously they they regain energy when you're in the huddle Right They regain energy if you scroll through the plays now say you call your play with 30 seconds on the play clock But you don't hike it till one seconds on the clock Do you think there's any way they regain stamina while they're sitting there waiting for the ball to be snapped? Or do you think they'll stay on yellow? I guess there's no way to really tell I I know for sure to stay on yellow because there was times where if I left gale in the game as a full back He wouldn't come back to full blue even though he wasn't getting the ball Okay, so like you you'd have you basically have to take them off the game completely So that's when I would put an act in that full back and then I would just hand the ball off to franco There you go Okay, okay now let's talk about the defense. So when you have this lineup Uh, you pretty much have your pick of defensive players. Do you feel that way? Uh, I mean yeah, pretty much like I could have fit basically any like honestly out of the 11 players that I had on my defense There's really only one that I was kind of iffy about and it was clowny So I basically yeah, like I got I got to hand pick every single player that was on my defense Now talk I've seen a lot of people with the hitter read talk about going with taylor macy. I'm a taylor mace guy I mean, I just I like big bodies. I don't I think the the point of speed or whatever. I don't I think taylor mazes is still the best player in the game So, yeah, I agree another thing too is so ed read was 10 more cap for for two speed And in my opinion like one speed is worth three to four cap So if he was, you know, 76 cap, I mean 70 a cap I would have used them But I just didn't think ed read was 10 cap better than taylor maize or just than read because like, you know, he's just too speed faster And I just didn't think like the valley was there. I know a lot of people went with him But I thought I've always thought this taylor maize is the best, you know, salary cap player in the game And he just makes so many plays with the computer that I just felt like there's no point of spending 10 more cap for a player Who's not better, but he's faster I agree So and you still got the dion. Oh, I think he's the best budget and lad them more. I mean, I just I mean I'm surprised more people didn't have dion. I think You know, was he 61 cap or 65 or something like that? He's just like super cheap for 90 and he's just I think dion's been glitching mad and since he's been in mad. I don't know No, I agree dion's a baller. He just plays like out of this world No, I just think as he gets animations more than any other person and I think he's a stud You know, I'm another thing too is he can spin so you can use him as a special teams player You don't have to you know, use an offensive player and waste animal for sure And we saw frank clark uh dominating And that's how I feel about frank clark. I I feel like this game I don't care if isn't it. I don't care who it was if he has that power specialist and that type of speed He's want to kill. I mean, that's pretty much how I feel about the game And I feel like fletcher cox the difference between him and fletcher cox is he's what 90 speed or whatever He's just getting right to the quarterback after he sheds I I agree. I've always said the same thing I feel like any players who have the you know, if they have the same ability They're gonna play the same But the difference was is that you know, like frank clark was the cheapest 90 speed Power specialist and in my opinion like 90 speed is like a threshold where it's harder It's harder to outrun 90 speed than 89 speed And I kind of realized that once I started using the 90 cap ends And that's why in my opinion a lot of people use the daniel hunter and the simu rights because once they shed It's a lot harder to outrun 90 speed And you know frank clark like most of the times where he shed is if you were sitting in the pocket Unless you were already rolling out most of the times you got sacked So like that was just huge and I honestly I'm shocked that more people didn't use frank clark because I was just seeing him play It was like the plays he would make that the things he did on defense Just made it so hard for anyone to play offense against them Yeah, for sure, but that goes back to people that you know spend you look at kids team like he he had So many of the all his receivers had three four abilities And then he had the four abilities on the quarterback So how do you like you know go ahead and fit that type of player in there? So it's just all about roster construction and what you do and being able to run and not have that quarterback really helps Put that type of defense out there on the field. Uh, but yeah, I mean the team looked good I mean, I I don't I don't know why you question the clowny man. I think he's glitched and mad What that's honestly, so I the player I've always used that was 41 cap was daniel hunter and uh So I was kind of doing a different type of auto reorder as like I have two outside linebackers and a middle linebacker So if I ever ran in three four, I was only getting wadam or a middle linebacker And the reason why I did that was because by basically just convinced me that shazier was just too good a value at 53 cap to not use Then he kind of also told me like you're always going to be running 35 wide or you know 146 or nickel like you're never really going to have to run three four So I went with the shazier and then I was honestly only using one secure tackler So instead of clowny I had a vaan miller because he had 90 speed and he had the 95 finesse with power And then just from playing jaywalk, he was using agile extender And he was basically letting that my slot cornerback come in who didn't have secure tackler And then just breaking a sack every time and I did think like maybe pop in or folks would use agile And I knew I had a chance to play kid I thought kid would also use agile So that's the reason why I went with the just two secure tacklers because if I ever played anyone who ran I agile like let's say I could have played quest in the finals I could have you know used justin reed and taylor maize in the slot in 146 to guarantee my sacks That's not bad Yeah, I like it now. I want to talk about some of these games as we see Jerome baker here Uh, I I mean I I I tell you what pavin is the first person that comes to mind and and honestly for me I was impressed with I mean one thing I've always Been a fan of his people that you know when you throw an interception And you and you still fight, you know, it's easy to throw a pick six Like the first play of the game and then come back and still You know still put out a good fight man And that's something that always uh is impressive to me where a lot of people can you know have a bad start Or bad playing the game and then you know just kind of fold it in You know so talk about playing pavin in the way he was able to respond and you know the way this game started With the I mean another wild pick So honestly if you told me there was one person I could choose not to play in the tournament It was probably pavin because Even the first game like If he doesn't throw a few bad passes like I probably lose the first game in group by a lot I don't even win, you know my group So like I know pavin in my opinion pavin was playing the best offense in the tournament with the hot rod master He was flipping. He was quick hiking So he had a really good balance on offense to where like he ran a lot of short side plays But he also mixed in a lot of quick hiking. Yeah his tempo his tempo was unreal like he mixed it up very well Yeah, that was probably the one person I didn't want to play Because honestly when I was in 146 and 236 like I just didn't feel comfortable against him flipping that much So that's kind of why I went to like the nickel stock coverage because I knew that You know, there's really not that many plays in in bunch that really beat match And I knew if you wanted to be match you'd have to start sending out four He never honestly started doing that or not I could have sent six when he sent out four and got pressure All right. Now I need help though. I mean I I have run match for I've tried to and these kids and we can lead kill me How does match work? All right, so So one thing I know is you always got a man up the solo side and then you got a Basically man of the slot receiver because anytime you take a zone out of the out of the match It changes the match principles So if you leave that purple and uncertain plays that, you know The slot corner is going to man up to the outside receiver And honestly, like I didn't even know that to like maybe 30 minutes before I played my game with I don't know where Vy told me like, yo, don't forget. You got to change that guy's adjustment So it varies on different plays But like usually that that if there's no zone on the left like that, uh, The deep blue will play deeper. There's a zone that he can like bite on routes so it's kind of like It's weird because sometimes it doesn't always happen. So when you're usually you can't really bite on many routes Especially like if you ran plays with two post routes I kind of had to run back and just choose which one the computer wasn't guarding But like, you know, in my opinion matches definitely the best defense against bunch this year Especially since, you know, everyone loves the rollout corner out And then the one thing too is you always got a man up the outside receiver because When if you leave them in those quarter zones, they're you know, their match, uh Press principles are just terrible. So you always got a man up the solo side Okay, so for me, it's like I never know what's gonna happen And it pisses me off to learn because I'm giving up piece somebody's just wide open every time And it's like by the time I I get frozen like I'm out of this. I'm done. I've had enough So but I mean this first play in this this game I mean at top you're a runner, you know And like you said in the interview if I get to 10 or 13 points, I feel good You know, now if you get a pick six the first play, I mean that's pretty much like there's no better feeling as a runner Has anybody really right? Yeah, it's the best way to start the game sure another thing too is that like after that pick I felt really kind of on defense because like this match style coverage There's really not many big plays you can run in bunch Like unless I just like messed up and forget to man somebody up or just forget to do his own Like if you're kind of having you you got to take a lot of check downs You got to make you know, you basically got to work. So I knew like, you know, I'm up seven zero Now I get ball at I'm basically thinking here like if I get a stop and I score Like the game is basically over in the first quarter and like Justin Reed Another thing people don't even realize is Justin Reed got 99 zone So nobody else in the game But like Justin Reed or anyone with 99 zone probably fixed that and that was a big reason why I also went with Justin Reed because of that 99 zone I mean and this will be how tall is Justin Reed? He's at least six foot, right? Yeah, I think he's six foot six one. Okay I now the way he reads for this ball people say like height and player Like height doesn't matter just I hate when people say that shit Like I mean a five ten player is not reaching out like this and picking this ball off Like that play that play is just that was a crazy play really, you know I don't understand why so many people used golden ticket palmalu. Oh my god, I hate him The the basically the golden ticket shades here the 99 overall shades here is they basically have the same stats And he's less cap and he's bigger So I never really understood why a lot of people were using like the golden ticket palmalu I didn't like how anyone I honestly, I think I might have been the only person who used this shades here So I'm not sure if people just forgot that shades here was in the game Or there was something that people liked more about, you know, trauma palmalu But I didn't really understand that and a lot of people, you know went to that way where they chose Troy P over shades here Yeah, I've always been against Palmalu because I remember I got him pull when you pull You know as a weekend league pro when you pull a 99 gold or like, you know when he was ultimate legend It's like, all right, let me try him and he just could not like he was just too short Like the height you really notice the height and like I said, we own the same page as far as like player players height They're billed even how fat they are like I want the biggest possible players as long as they're the same speed Give me the biggest possible players Yeah, I agree. I don't wait. That doesn't matter All right. No, I mean, like I said, it looked like Like just a bitch to defend because like you said, he went with the quick snap then he went with the tempo I've always thought that was the best way to play offense Sometimes just snap the hell out the ball other times take all day because when you're on defense You're never comfortable with a timing pattern to do your adjustments It's hard to laugh against too because like when I was getting reps against Tony You know, Tony's not used to running this offense So like Tony wasn't quick hiking as much because he just doesn't feel as comfortable as you know doing a slide It's like doing you know, like there's certain ways to do certain hot routes So just call height faster and honestly, he did a really good job of just mixing up his plays The thing too is that like I didn't run match every single play I had an adjustment out of cover two that basically took away a lot of his match feeders And he had he was I guess he was kind of noticing that because he was definitely calling plays for cover two And that's a lot of things that like in my opinion the best offensive players Are kind of the ones where you're reading your coverage like most people just see a formation like, okay I know what coverage is in he's in match and they're just going to dial up match feeders all the time Havin was actually trying to dial up some covered two beaters And I was mixing in cover two a lot against them because I thought he would try This cleft like basically cleft when he played little man Little man wasn't really mixing in his coverage and just running match every single play So cleft kind of just got you know to sit back there and just dial up match feeders Havin realized like even in the first ride that I was mixing in cover two a lot So you can see how he ran like verticals to the short side and a lot of rollout plays that don't Normally open get open against match, but they get open against cover two Class now, uh, yes, I believe he does he I don't think he scores a touchdown this whole game All right, that's yeah, no six points six points or nine points. All right Now you did have one run and I believe you said you were double team in the dnd I mean you guys are just absolute nerds. I try this and I get hit stick then we can leak tell me about this double team at the end so, uh Basically, I kind of realized so like when I was lab and runs I was um, obviously Lab in different, you know slide protections different motions and when I was a week I closed I realized, you know, like I seen uh, both do it both double team somebody and I double teamed the end and we got close flex And I got like insane blocking to where I was able to take it outside So then I you know, I did the same thing and win flex close and then the same thing happened And I kind of knew win flex close was a good matchup for your safety's and spies Because you can uh, you can glitch out the safety's pretty easily like if you run middle and then you take it to the outside So I kind of took the same concept that vote was doing and took it to the to win flex close Yeah, then you said that stopped them from being over because I was like impressed I thought after seeing these guys like kids play run defense I was like, bro, it's no way you win without a quarterback But I mean, I guess that you said the double teams kind of stopped them from being able to run in there to the backfield Yeah, but basically, you know that the animation that happens in three four where the ends just like shoots And basically hits you in the backfield when you double team that left end If that ever happens, it gives you that little crease to like basically run left and run through the middle And that that's how I scored one of my touchdowns against the cross So like as you see like right there on that play, I just double teamed the left end I don't double team that left end. There's a big chance that that left end You just get the animation where he like basically just bull rushes my tackle and basically gets me in the backfield Yeah So that's why I was you know double teaming him basically took out that that aspect of the defense So it was basically like him crashing down wasn't getting that animation that he was getting against other people Now, I do believe this gets a little bit sweaty at the end, doesn't it? He gets like a last drive last drive on you to try to tell like a last like hell married type of Yeah, it was yo and he actually bro. I remember this. Yo, he actually did really good for like he had like no time I was in like 40 seconds. He actually got a little bit sweaty So talk about this situation on defense now me I'm I'm putting the tuck in my tail between my legs and playing like a bitch with uh, what you call Oh, no, this I guess you just turn the ball over So honestly, that's kind of what I did where I played super conservative and I kind of just was giving Frank Clark Honestly a chance to shed one time because if I get one sack Honestly, this was really bad right here because I could have made him burn a time out So if I don't pick my play there before him, there's no way he goes for it Right, he would have had to burn a time out and then he would only would have had two time out So I would have wasted another 40 seconds. So me Like not waiting to see what he came out in there Like could have cost me the game. So that was really bad by me right there I had to call it time out because I you know I just assumed he was going to come out a field goal and then he actually messed up And I'm assuming acts mad and told him to go for it. Oh, yeah This yeah, this I I mean you gotta cause nothing else you can really do like you can't even Gotta call time out. Yeah, that's mad and but but you I mean I'm not even mad at that because I mean ass mad and just that needs to get taken out that for We've all done it. Just mash a to get to your next play and all and we're in We're gonna go for this if he called if he burns the time out there. He has to And then if he doesn't get it the game is just over and then you're like when his last ride Is you know game, you know game time drop because I was a bait. So you can only tie the game I did play like super conservative honesty I probably should have played a little more aggressive and just send everyone because I'm like a sack away from winning the game But I kind of was like, you know, I'm spending 105 cap on frank. So frank. Go get the man Yeah, I got to I wouldn't I would have played the same way I would have played, you know The because the worst case scenario is that you could say you tie the game up But if you do all that like it's kind of like kudos That point now, I'll tell you I I might tell you might have been the best punter of the weekend You know, you did a pretty good job with your boy trust way I don't think you put one in balance man. So what is so was a lot of practice with your boy trust Let's just say there was a lot of so like people probably would not gonna believe this But I actually like there'll be times where I'm just bored on madden and like, you know, there's nothing to do So I'll just go kick juggles So like there was a time where I like forced myself to get 50 out of 50 perfect from 50 And I was doing the same thing with punts because sometimes like when I was playing lab games My controller would vibrate like crazy. Honestly, and the ball wouldn't go out of bounds And I didn't want to give up any free touchdowns. Like the one thing you want to do when you know, you don't have a Player on offense minus you're running back You can't you can't give up a free point So I had to make sure that you know, every pun I had was out of bounds If people were going to score on me, you know, you have to earn it I will and I this I said this while I was doing my part Joke is the best field goal kicker in the world. Like he don't like he hit them joints perfect every time I've always thought that like I don't know how you do it me I'm I'm lucky the game is very uh, the game is very lenient On how bad you can be on your accuracy on field little case, but I guess that's all it plays off There you go check it sit in there and practice mode kick some field goals and some punts Because you're right, man This is the thing about not having an a quarterback You have to be elite on the other two phases of football Honestly, you can't make mistakes there and you have to be really good there, you know And like I said about popping this last job I thought he did as this is damn there impossible this year. It's impossible With 40 seconds is no time possible to whole field and he did a pretty good job You know, this was definitely a good game time drive for sure Like the thing too that he did such a good job of was any player that just didn't look good He didn't waste any time. He just threw it away Or he took it. It took us like eight yards. He took his eight yards with Vic He didn't try to force a pass He was just like, all right, I'll take these little eight yards on the sideline and get out give myself another chance Yeah, he like I'm pretty sure here He's going to see that I'm guarding the post and he's going to throw it away like immediately Like I feel like a lot of people would have waited to see if like that guy's going to outrun me towards the sideline And you know, that's going to take like three or four more seconds And he just threw it out immediately like he threw the ball immediately when he didn't like You know, when he didn't get the look he liked, he just threw it away immediately Vic got stamina issues man I feel like the running back never gets tired and the quarterback gets tired instantly just another example of you know, how it's But I know the running backs get tired. Vic just be Catching catching his breath all the time So at this point, like I remember telling myself like, all right I'm done with this coverage. Frank is not getting into the quarterback. I'm pretty sure I'm like All right, I'm sending people now And I'm pretty sure here. I'm I'm bloating seven. I'm pretty sure if not I'm user russian No, did you uh Did you try that? You saw the user rush that they had a 180 had did you try that at all? Did you know about that running through the agap before this tournament? Yeah, so uh, basically when I was preparing for a povin I I always go into a game with like a plan a and a plan b And you know, my plan a was nico normal my plan b was gonna run one four six And I was gonna blitz out so I corner a lot and I was gonna do that user rush So I did lab that user rush I actually tried it twice this game and I don't know why it never worked, but that was something I did lab I don't know if you have to be a blitz hand user or you have to still be manned up on the running bag I really don't know but I've been I've been trying to fix it But when I when I liked it, I was you know, just on In a blitz angle and then this is like where I tell you like I realized he was way too comfortable So I was like I I'm just gonna send everybody I'm having two inwards and a third And because a sack ends the game and I was playing way too conservative So I I decided to let him hang here and say fuck it like if you're gonna score you're gonna score by me sending seven Yeah, there you go And that's the problem and one thing about nobody had like a big nobody had calvin You know and that's where it's like, okay, you can throw it up to john ross But shit the way this gameplay now you can throw them if you got a six four six five guy They got a shot in a one-on-one where john ross. I live with it, but And then that's something I wish these guys would have was a little bit bigger Why receiver to in that but obviously you never built a team for a situation where you got to chalk the ball up But having Denzel word came out though because calvin used to basically like body bag everybody like all the other corners But once Denzel word came out Denzel word could play calvin one on one on an island Which is why I think people kind of started going away from From calvin. Yeah But like I said, the only situation I would guarantee have another one is one where you gotta just chuck chuck the ball up Because john ross he not he not teabagging anybody, but there you go. No, you went that one I I felt I felt like one year run game was really good for that game because I thought you weren't able to get nothing Obviously, well, you were really prepared and it worked out perfectly, you know So yeah, the d cross game. I was really comfortable against the cross The cross is the person I played the most out of obviously e and b leading into this tournament And uh, I had when I was playing him I was getting a lot of sacks like he was basically struggling against 146 So going into that tournament, I felt really into that final game I felt really comfortable because I knew that you know, I was basically like One or two runs away from becoming, you know, the champion because I did think I'd be able to bag him And his uh, he had a really bad offensive line too. So that helped it as well All right, there's one thing you did that I was screaming for cleft to do when he was playing And I feel like you spied every single play Because he these get the you know, the tnsc guys like to hug the center They have really good pocket presence stepping up in the pocket They really do and if because they had especially him because he has the center And I feel like you have to spy that type of player and almost make it like a delayed blitz So they're not comfortable stepping up in the pocket Yeah, I I basically did the skimbo I manned up the running back the the safety. I mean the linebacker to the running back Which would obviously a help my boots come free and then b if it didn't come free It was basically a spy and you know, that was something I did every play like I I feel like a lot of people were getting d-croft Too much charge with the quarterback just by you know, stepping up and scrambling for 10 So I knew that was never going to do even when I ran coverage I had a spy because you know, even though he's only 84 speed or whatever a ride is Everyone would escape ours from scramble up the middle for 10 And I do feel like a lot of people play really good I was honestly shocked that cleft really didn't blitz d-croft that much And you know, cleft in my opinion, it was like an aggressive style player I thought he was gonna blitz a lot more than you did Then another thing that you did that other people don't do is you move the slot cornering So that makes him have to block that tight end or at least think about it, right? Like if you don't move that slot cornering like he can he's comfortable as as all can be And nobody else really did that and it just was that that's the two things I would have did If I play this formation, I want to move even if I don't blitz ever I'm going to move the slot corner and I'm going to spy somebody. Those are the two number of things I would do against this formation Yeah, he he can't block the if so if you send five if he doesn't max protect Excuse me. He can't block the blitz and then if even if he max protects and you send five What happens a lot is his center would pass off frank clark to my you know his guard And then if that ever happened frank clark was shedding immediately because he had 14 cap So I knew going into the game. I like all right. I'm going to send five a lot And even if he's you know blocks three, there's really only one play He can run when he blocks three, which is basically like the buck sale Which is the post-act and the in route So like I knew I was going to make them block seven a lot and I had 12 sacks on this game Yeah, and then that played and I said every time the car runs it I feel like that's his worst play because you got to sit there and wait You know that's bad bad sale for the last what four years you have to sit there and wait to see what they guard And with frank clark, it's just it's just not going to work out for you Yeah, another thing two people didn't do was people had the linebackers on the line of scrimmage So they didn't like they couldn't do the skimbo where you man up the linebacker from you know Out the gap and you basically glitched the run back So I was shocked that more people didn't play defense like this But honestly, it's it's also because I played the D crossed a lot And I knew you couldn't really run like cover three against them because when he motioned anyone to the left side of the field It would kind of glitch your adjustments to where you couldn't put them in a quarter or third You can put them in a curl flat and that's a purple so then to get them just back to a curl I mean a cloud flat you had to shake down So a lot of people, you know, just weren't comfortable against that And you know, it's kind of tough to play somebody who's not D crossed and like because you know That happens a lot you play somebody that's not the person you're playing And you bag them and then you play the actual person who runs off and then you don't So, uh, honestly, it helped a lot that I played him so many times. I probably played him like 15 or 20 times before the madden ball China, I don't I honestly, I don't think he crosses the 50 until maybe like the last one of the games over You know, so he actually he doesn't complete a pass So the end of the third quarter, which is just crazy when he's uh, you know You know passing offense because he's just got sacked so often Like this drive I sacked him three straight right three straight plays and then we you know, right back to offense And as you guys can see like if he ever sent out the tight end, he was just getting sacked instantly So as an office player, you pretty much got to like rule out ever sending out the tight end Like and that's one thing I hate about, you know, tray wide flex and like You almost have to motion block and waste that wide receiver every single play just because of the threat of 146 And that's why a good 146 is like bro You're just not going to be that successful every drive against it You know, and you you're going to almost turn the ball over as much as you are going to get points I feel Yeah, the thing too is that if he so I basically had a covered adjustment So I was running covered. I ran covered to sink every play because I'm able to three wreck the blitz and slot corner So if he was to start max protecting a lot what I would do was three wreck that blitz and slot corner And then I would spy one of the linebackers and that three wreck would take away his short route And I would guard his you know deep route So it's not like he's back there and max pro'd every play because the max pro plays in that formation aren't as good As the one in bunch So, you know, like basically I was going into the game like if I see him blocking the tight end every single play I'm going to run more coverage And then until he starts blocking that tight end. I knew I was going to send five So I was kind of like, you know, guessing what he was going to do and most of the times I felt like I guessed right And this is honestly you ran ran a ball better than I thought you would after seeing everybody's three three five defense the first couple weeks. So I ought to be and so you actually did score fairly decently for no quarter that you know, I I think Going into these games if I told you you'd get one long touchdown run a game you you'd probably take that. All right Yeah, absolutely, especially like just because honestly, I was like so Chai's has like we have an honor discord We have this thing called chai's takes where chai's just says outrageous shit and we just laugh and one of the chai's takes was I'm just going to run dive until my dick falls off and hope you keep three And that was like a legit thing like once I got to like the 45 to 46 I'm like, all right. I'm three yards away from three. I'm running dive and I'm being three And in this game twice on like third and six third and seven I crib a run where I was honestly just trying to take, you know, get three And this right here. So like This is another thing I did with um, just honestly being able to like practice So steve used to be able to run on this defense and as you guys can see, I'm going to flip my formation I'm going to double team his user and me double teaming his user does the same thing that you know It did in the 35 y where that left end isn't going to shoot the gap And obviously he didn't know that so this got me two touchdowns And this was something that I like steve texted me the same day of the tournament So this was like a big reason why I got to win this game Like as you guys can see you see how that that guy comes free But when that guy comes free his linebacker gets picked up. So I'm able to just run around them Now I see so you got like an army of runners, bro. That's what you have an army Yeah, pretty much I don't have no runners wrong. I'm telling you I'm sure would have I'm going to find the runners They're out there somewhere. I see bro. You have a army like what the hell like and shoot, but Yeah, now it's a position where it's like man, I'm just going to get this field going no matter what, you know Yeah, like here. I was honestly like I'm at the 39 I'm cool with taking three and you know, just getting right back on defense. So at this point like I'm never running anything but a dive And like you're gonna see every time he's in this I'm running it flip and I'm going to ID his user And you know that he's never going to be able to shoot that gap And that this is the run that honestly won me the tournament because you know This is the one that that really worked in the finals and as I you can see that dead left hand doesn't come free I see All right. No, it is something I want to talk about that happened the last the next play because I believe it's going to test them I don't want to be giving up too many of these single these runs man. I already have enough hard enough time stopping to run Those fucking scumbags man. I see joe timers out here at wire receiver He's a god I you know, I thought he'd be slow because I went and bought the card for blast right to put him in the water see But he has like 77 speed like I mean this is just And as you guys I'm just as as long as as soon as I saw this defense I knew exactly what I wanted to do and I was just gonna keep doing it until basically he got out of it Now why we go with gels there is a cap reason or do you like him or like So honestly, I was using bow right 88 cap bow But bow was 98 speed But we were told that we were either going to a be able to get 40 out of 40 for a team So obviously I would be able to get bow at a 99 speed or coach madden was going to be allowed Then like maybe a week and a half before the tournament We're basically told like all right We we can't use stadiums because we need to play in the pizza hut stadium and we can't use coach madden So then I'm like I might have a decision where I'm like, all right Do I use bow for 88 cap at 98 speed? Or do I use gale for 88 cap in 99 speed? And there was a lot of games where I was playing with bow where I was just getting caught But you know like how to have a big run and get caught and I was like all right effort I got to use I got to use gale like he's smaller and all But I got to use the guy who's faster because if I break the run I got to be able to score Now I want to talk about this right here because Old joke I see I remember a joke that I played one time in the final four and he accepted a penalty with the With the defender going all sides when he no huddled man. See old joke What are you saying would have said nah, I'm not giving this five yards back talk about I feel like you become a more mature man and Talk about this situation because obviously it's his fault for changing this camera It's just a punt and then he's stuck in this so talk about what happened here So at first I honestly didn't really know what happened. So like, you know, just because I don't know what happened I'm gonna set, you know, obviously accept it for sure and then Uh As a child comes in and it's like, you know, his camera angle was locked I'll be right back and I'm kind of thinking like, you know, let me not accept this and get some bad karma Plus the cross a really nice kid and you know, in my opinion If uh, if you know the tables were turned, I think the cross would have declined it had I've been playing cleft I I'll tell you this right now. I would have, you know, obviously kept the delay Because I mean I would have accepted the penalty because he did against the cross But I I did feel like D cross is the kind of person that would have declined it So, you know, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and when he came back in I just told child Like, you know, I'll go back off sides like it's cool So by this when we talked about man 18 and you said so pretty much I was a scumbag and you thought I would have accepted that penalty And in the final four of the tournament and your computer goes off sides I mean, I'm pretty sure we're all accepting that So, you know, I I did say sorry, dubby But I know I felt bad, but you know, you got to do it. Like, you know, this is like the start of the game Like, you know, this is maybe the fourth quarter and you know, the game's a little closer than I'm like, yeah You know, I'm you know, I'm accepting it. But I you know, I started the game. I don't know I didn't want to know bad juju Plus I didn't want to seem like the bad guy like I've been trying to be a better person And you know, it's just like his first drive So I was like, you know, like five yards isn't going to be the reason why I wouldn't lose this game So, you know, I I just I soon as a child and I talked about like it's cool child And I'll go off sides For sure. All right, but then like I said, like I said between Blitzing off that tight inside, he really didn't score. I mean, he didn't this was As much as Spoto Lost the journey. What was that like 41 to zero? I mean, this was I mean, I want to say almost as bad, you know, it's just a different Madden Uh, where You know, the clock is shorter, especially the way you're playing is what you want the game to be You know a 10 minute game, you know, so you're not going to score 41 points But I I mean, this is probably just as bad as as journey beats photo for the championship. All right, right His uh, his first completion coming in the third is pretty crazy when he's not not in a past heavy offense Like I didn't even realize that till like I forgot somebody telling me like, you know, you didn't complete a pass to the third Quarter and I was just like wow, that's crazy Yeah, and I just yeah, so all right go go into these games Uh I think that's my next topic essentially going into easy now. You know, this is on ESPN This is going to be the Madden game of the year. Do you have any like is there any Stress on you them like let's make sure this is a good game or I hope, you know Maybe I you know put on a show for everybody watching at home. Is there any thought to that for you? To be honest, no, like I feel like every time I thought about more than the game Like, you know, I obviously like anything other than the game. I feel like I played terror Like, you know, I was thinking about what was I going to say if I won the challenge and then, you know Clef beats me by 30 I was thinking what I was going to say if I won clubs and then dreamy beats me So I honestly like wasn't thinking about anything like the whole time. I was just thinking about like what I was going to do on on defense Uh, basically what runs I was going to call like I was honestly just thinking about the game And I wasn't worried about anything like that at all like I was just super focused on just trying to win my, you know My first belt fine Yeah, so as we saw girls say it's fumble before half. How many times did you turn the ball over in this tournament? None. I mean other than once I never had to turn over. Yeah, that's uh The nasty streak was going crazy there, but like I said this game was was pretty much cooked. I mean at what point of this game? No, uh, at what point do you feel like this game is cooked? Because you get you get a vibe when you're playing somebody that's all right And obviously I'm just you get a vibe like all right this person can't score You know, you get that vibe where there'd be the second quarter there Whatever it may be and that kind of changes how you play the game, right? Yeah, so when I score right here So as remember I told him before like if the dude ever shot I could do that little thing where I go left and then right That's kind of what I did right there So that's something I had lab before like I knew that as soon as I saw the animation I could do that little cut left to right so as soon as I scored here I was like all right Like I'm getting close to this game Basically over and I knew I was one stop away from you know winning the game And I think I uh, I think I give up two completions and then sack him three straight times And that's when like once I basically got the ball in field go range But I think it was four minutes left. I'm like all right like this game is close to over Galsers All right, so talk about all right after you won this game. Now you said that was your brother that was with you Yeah, that was my brother Now is he sitting there like watching you or what's it? What's his like angle to watch the game because I mean I don't talk to me my brother was actually upstairs So my brother was upstairs and once I went up like 17 zero where the game was almost over I heard my door open at like, you know, like a minute left So I'm assuming that's when he came down to like, you know celebrate and all okay But he was watching the game because we live in the same building. So he was watching from his apartment upstairs So yeah, that would have creeped me out if he was like right next to me, you know what I'm saying like You know what's actually crazy was that ea actually has sent out on somebody to like basically record me Like getting ready for the tournament like, you know for the whole day So there was actually somebody in my room like recording me play the whole you know the game the whole time Yeah, so I guess you get used to it from being at the events and everything but being at home would be a little creepier I don't know but Honestly, I Like you really didn't even like realize like I feel like when you're playing like you're just so locked in like You know, I honestly like I feel like you just kind of block everything out like And this right after I got this act this is when like it kind of started me like like I finally won I felt like he didn't play He didn't play a good game As well, I just thought he didn't call too many plays and a lot of it came down to how you play defense against him really You know Frank Hart was pretty crazy this game as well Despite like, you know a defense where you can bring pressure. You're making the offense max protect He doesn't really have that many max protect plays And then there was a play where he did max protect I there was a play where I sent three and he sent out five and you just get sacked immediately Like that's discouraging for sure Yeah, because we kind of got a guess like all right. He's not gonna blitz here. Let me send out everybody and when you're wrong You're done. You're cooked. Yeah one one sack to especially when you play against, you know, like the thousand cap defense One sack could definitely ruin the whole drive All right, let me see what else I do want to talk about man 20 as a whole like Obviously, this is you're the best player man 20, right? Where where do you and we've talked about this since the tournament like what do you think about the game? Where does it rank? As far as mcs madden and we talked about between 16 to 20 and then as far as a man all time Like what do you think because a lot of people don't like it? I purpose I have fun playing the game I don't think it's I don't think it's awful, but I just think you know having four winners that haven't passed Has to be a bad thing. What do you think about the game ultimately? Yeah, I I agree. Obviously is not one of the best man's ever But I mean if you really think about it We really haven't had a really good madden during the mcs era since madden knows no madden 17 Madden 17 was really the game the structure everything about madden 17 was perfect And since then we you know, we've taken steps backwards, obviously And then yeah this year it's going to get a lot of backlash obviously because it's a run heavy type game But I feel like you know, like the best players should adjust to the game And the game has been the same all year like you know the run was honestly meta until maybe this last tournament where I honestly thought maybe somebody and bunch go in the tournament and even then like I feel like the game has just been so run heavy And just people really haven't adjusted to the game and I feel like that's one thing I'm always going to do like I'm always going to adjust to the game whether I gotta run bunch or whether I gotta run the ball every single play I'm going to you know play the game the way that in my opinion should be played and That's like I did that to this year from the start of the year and I feel like Honestly for every tournament, you know, maybe minus the challenge Because there wasn't really like you couldn't really be ahead of the curve I feel like I was ahead of the curve scheme wise for every single tournament this year I mean I do feel that way and and before I do I will say that that is what has always been your strength I mean, whether it be bunch, you know, it was a little sloppy You know, whether it be bunch or when madden 17 you were in tight flecks Remember the end of that year that was probably the best offense or one of the best offenses You ran that and you've been talking about man 16 with tight offset And like you always ran like all right, this is the best offense and I'm adjusted a game And it's honestly something that I'm terrible at, you know It's something that is a super weakness of myself You know, whereas I'm like I want to like do what I'm comfortable with and try to make it work As opposed to you saying this is what's good at the game. Let me expand my my versatility And use that offense to to the best of this ability because it's the best in the game And honestly, I think that's something that it's easy to look at this year and say joked just ran But when you look back at all these years, you pretty much has been in what you've seen is the best offense for the year All right Even last year if you really think about it I was the first person using the double ken receivers And I was using that during clubs and then after I did it everyone else did this year I was the first person running win-win close with the, you know, nasturtree Then this year I was the first person running blast and I wasn't the you know, obviously the the first person running The the boat scheme, but I was the last person to run it. So I do feel like every tournament I have basically out strategized the entire field And I feel like, you know, when when you're playing against the best man players in the world Like you have to be ahead of the curve and that's one thing that I've you know, always try to be And last year for the biggest tournament, you know, I was ahead of the curve and this year My opinion for every tournament other than the challenge because there's really no curve to be ahead of I was really ahead of like the whole, you know, strategy wise I feel like I went into that tournament with the best strategy. Well, I do feel like the classic I mean, I feel like you play that how many times in a row I feel like you You know can win that tournament pretty easily. I think that's the one time this year where you got And you know Unfortunate in that game versus Henry with you you you were the one head and you got that one feel Well, you know, I really thought that and I'll be honest That's probably the only time I really rooted for you because you had the Eagles out But I was I was proud of you. You did good. And that really was like the best Scheme at the time, you know, but uh, there you go. I mean now I said, I mean Do you think man 20 being having no quarterback? Do you think We'll look back at that and it kind of diminished the accomplishment you had this year I don't think so because if you really think about it like To dominate a whole year basically the way I did because you know, like final You know fifth third third and then a win Like obviously I had to be that much better than everyone right because like you can't have those placings and not be the best So like yeah, you can say the game was bad But you can say that about every year honestly like you can say 18 was bad You can say 19 was bad like the only game where we really can't say like yeah The game was bad was you know 17 because even madden 16 like you could just aggressive catch everything Yeah, man 16 was If you're gonna say that I won because madden 20 was bad We can say that about everyone who's won and then we do kind of say even I mean stiff obviously gets a lot of shit Um, but even dynasty, you know, like you think about oh nine and ten when he was good Oh nine was dude that was for me. That's the worst game for me I I don't care about you know, no quarterback this year. I still have oh nine is the worst You know, and that's something we always talk about dynasty like yet We'll just full-back that toss and throw a curl to witton or martel's been in. I mean like that's Whooped you know, I'll tell you one thing one thing that was really really good about this game that people don't mention is For the last three years since madden 17 madden 17 18 and 19 One defense stopped every single formation in the game. Nickel normal stopped goal line I form pro I form tight every shotgun in the world madden 18 35 normal stopped everything Madden 19 35 normal stopped everything this year was the only madden in a while since maybe I don't know maybe madden 16 where you have to have run different defenses against basically everything And I feel like that's why I was so much better than everyone on defense because no I felt comfortable running three four three four bare nickel normal one four six two three six And I kind of just like knew when I seen a formation like I knew what kind of defense I had to run And I don't feel like I feel like that's something that like, you know, we've been we've honestly been lucky Where a lot of like carbon last year was the best player on defense and he ran 35 normal against everything So that's the one thing that I do take away from this game that I really did enjoy was that you had to be really versatile on defense To really be elite on defense and madden hasn't been like that in a while Now I and when you say that and I've said this a lot is I feel like madden 20 is a good foundation For a mad, you know what I'm saying? I feel like they can build from this game You know, I feel like a couple tweaks here and there between the tackle and the pursuit and just a bunch of little stuff If they fix it, I feel like this game could be really good. Do you feel that way? I I agree. I feel like if run commit was a lot better than it was And the casting abilities weren't as crazy as they are and they just helped the receivers get open I do feel like this could have been one of the best maddens ever because It's it's a really you really have to be versatile to be, you know, good in this game And I you know, just because I won i'm not going to disagree like I don't think a 10 cap quarterback should ever Win a tournament. So the fact that run commit was as bad as it was this year It's it's really a big reason why a lot of people didn't like madden 20. So if run commit was better I definitely think this could have been like one of the better maddens that ever came out Yeah, because it's just imagine if run commit was really that good You would you would have to have a quarterback some type of receivers and and I think Shoot, I think it would make I think I think those are the best offenses Like you said like the journey type of stuff if you can execute that and run the ball Well, I think those are a pain in the ass to use and essentially That's what everybody would have used if run commit worked something like that With a quarterback and being able to pass just a little bit, you know, I think that would make the game a lot better Yeah, I agree going forward. Um That's what I wanna ask Okay, now You did bring up the year now You know, we're gonna have to argue about this because you just say this was the best mcs year ever Is that that was is that you were you're standing to that? Uh, honestly after looking back at the the skimbo year I'm really not gonna argue it because I don't obviously don't want to take anything away from him. Both years were obviously great I do say when when you guys argue this, there's two important parts that you guys have to argue Point a was skimbo had an extra Extras, you know tournament they mean to go to because he was able to play in five majors I only got to playing four and he did, you know, there was one placing one placement where he didn't do that Well that year and then I think the one thing that doesn't get talked about enough is honestly if if I don't run commit against paven You think about I go six and oh in the maddenbow and basically like that the the run I would have gone through Like let's just say I beat poppin twice. I beat dreamy. I beat boat I beat boats and then win the belt like I do feel like this was one of the more dominant runs In a tournament and like, you know, obviously maybe boats running clubs So I do feel like that should be brought up a little bit because I really do feel like I kind of kind of dominated the maddenbow And it's hard to dominate a tournament where it's the last one It's the one where people have to qualify to play in so it's the 16 best players in the world and I actually did the math and So I gave up obviously seven points off a run commit and I gave up seven points to vote when I was up 21 Or actually not was up 28 So if you take away those 14 points that I gave up, I gave up 5.2 points a game And that's kind of crazy when you're playing against the best madden players in the world Especially this late in the year when everyone knows everything Like I feel like defensively. This was the best like defensive tournament anyone's ever played Yeah, for sure. I mean I would agree Um, I also as far as the points I mean you just you do got a factor in how short the games are You know, you're not having six seven possessions each You know, but I said Uh, I see you don't want to see earlier in the week. You were a little more strong with you. Uh, this was the best year ever You know, honestly, I forgot that skimbo made a final four of finals and I thought he made a fine I thought he made two final eights of finals and a win No, he honestly when you look back at skimbo's year in man 17, right? Obviously wins the championship versus problem in a hell game his first belt, right? But then he loses the beast mode In a hell game where he fumbled when he was going to take up the lead and he'd do a slash streak into the end zone So he he could have won that game like it wasn't like super fluky, but he could have won that game And then the way he lost to me in the final four when he was up 10 with two minutes left So so looking back at skimbo's year a couple other things break his way. He could have won three of those belts You know, and that's pretty crazy Really, uh, how good a year he had in man 17 And then like you brought it up with me that you know that north carolina tournament, man You got that's got to be down here somewhere that 30k cash Which I don't know where those people went But if you guys are out there and want to do another $30,000 tournament in north carolina in july We would all be down for that because that was a fun time, you know But uh, yeah, like but these are very comparable honestly. They really are uh, but Do you think for that year the the prize pool for that, you know, that year was also A lot better than the prize pool for this year where like all the tournaments were so top heavy. So You know, he won 100,000 the last tournament. I won 65,000. So that's a big reason to why he obviously won more money than me I think though is the average ea major finish And that's uh, his his was three 3.75 and that's what I'll even counting the uh You know the the one the club series where he lost in So like I feel like, you know, I averaged the top four finish, which is kind of crazy Did you play the club series in man 17 Yeah, I got cheater remember, uh, matt marco let uh Oh, you got booted My ish had uh can play for him No cam had ish play for him and there was like a ton of proof and marco didn't ban him So you didn't qualify is what you're saying because so I had two days to qualify. I stayed up all day for two days. I was top four in my club For, you know, obviously jags and then like last minute ish plays a few games no Yeah ish plays a few games for cam And he didn't get banned So because of ish you didn't make it come on through if ish Oh, man That's rough But yeah, I I didn't play in that in the real I didn't play in that because when I Made the final four I went home and just practice of what I'm gonna do against skimbo for seven days You know, I had That's why I was so like upset about like, you know, marco letting that happen was because right before that Tournament was the madden ball and I had just like, you know, obviously I was preparing for the madden ball So I wasn't playing club series at all and I think I had three days to, you know, qualify for the club series And that was three days where I played madden all day Like, you know, obviously barely slept spent so much time on it And then obviously like I had like videos of cam being at a super bowl party in houston And getting wins and getting wins And you know, he's at a super bowl party in houston and he's moving up the leaderboards. It's not bad I need to find somebody to do that for me. I'm saying and then like, yeah So like I was really upset about that and I do feel like, you know, I maybe win that because I was really good at madden 17 Especially at that time You know, I mean when 17 was good, I don't know when you look at it There were so many good things about madden 17 that they did not continue to You know, kind of incorporate throughout 18 19 and 20, you know, I just feel like If you look back at the last four years, if they take all the good shit, right and put it together I think like it would be great. That's that's how I feel about it. Honestly I feel like the the best thing honestly is the the best thing about it was the top 32 because You basically give yourself a chance to you know Win $100,000 and that that's the the most important thing about like I feel like the final event should be minimum 24 people Like it's hard to be, you know, top 16 in points when we only have three tournaments Like you're one tournament away from getting cheated and you know not having a good year Like this year beast mode made a final six He won his club And then he played poorly in dc and he doesn't make the madden bowl Tony Winces club makes final. I believe 12 and you know regs Then is one game before the live event for the challenge doesn't make the final 16 So I feel like it's tough to like say that they're getting the best 16 madden players in the madden bowl When there's just so many, you know, it's so limited ways of getting more like they had bugs in there How can you say it's the 16 best and bullies in there? You know, that's just like I need to know who let bugs go out there with no receiver cams. I don't know who I gotta I've been streaming. I haven't been bro. I don't know was dude. All I did was hit him up. I said, yo, y'all need help Hit me up. I'll play whatever I did not leave me. I I was mad. He didn't go with Michael vick. I don't know how Dude and and yeah 30 cap quarterback with no dashing no sideline that I know nothing like His team building honestly, I don't know if he was playing when if they I don't know who he was taking, you know advice from But that his team was bad and you know that that I did, you know Obviously reached out to him after the game said gg like because you know, obviously, you know Bugs will win one sooner than later and I was like That team was I had to hear a reasoning behind it because the team like that team just wasn't constructed To really like I feel like you're playing against me and boat As much as you want to have a power specialist You got to go with secure tackler instead Because at first you you got to worry about your group before you worry about the tournament No, oh, okay. Tell me this too. Was that not the best books run defense you've ever seen in his career? Yes. Yes. What What? Yo, that's why I said if but if you told if you would have told me books had run defense like this I'd have told you he'd he'd have won the group I mean he got to be able to score 10 points like what really bad Go Okay, he bagged vote. He just couldn't score. I'm like, bro. You might as well. I went with trey white flecks out there Then really, I mean shoot. I forget. I mean You got to score. That's the most important thing is being able to score Like as much as defense helps, but you can't score. You can't win. That's how I feel He should have honestly just used like a lower patron mohomes because he really wasn't throwing passes on the run Yeah, I'm out with the pocket more Yeah, he's gonna be in the pocket He should have you know, saved cap on the quarterback and spent cap on the receivers because when I played him I was just man enough his outside guy to play and like, you know, the cross around was just getting bodied by Any cornerback I had there because if you don't have an ability this year Like doesn't matter if you got 99 or not running 99 beat prex If you don't got an ability, you're not getting open Yeah, I agree. If you're not if you don't have ability not doing nothing That's how the game works. You're not shedding if you got to be linemen That's just it's night and day between me somebody with an ability and somebody without an ability That's how I feel and same thing with wide receivers. I look when I play I'm like, damn I wish I had every wide receiver would have come it'd be a lot easier I don't want to go to the guy without a camp because he's probably not gonna catch it Yeah, I I agree. Definitely need to have an x if you're gonna be throwing the bot anyone Yeah, well skimbo said it's time to talk about what y'all talk on the phone about It's the prize pool like I feel like So we we we had a summit where me skimbo kid dreamy and we talked to ea about this last year and So I don't know how you feel about this W But in my opinion club series is giving out way too much money to people who are participants They're given they used to give out $2,000 or like $1,000 for you making the final four of your club And I feel like a lot of that money should be, you know Put out in half like maybe instead of getting a thousand they get 500 And I feel like that should be you know added more to the top of The prize pools like clefts made of finals and a final four. I think he only won 45k So I do feel like the money needs to be going to the top instead of the bottom And I don't know what it is with ea like they really want to be able to give money to people who Were just participating and I get it They want to give everyone a hope But at the end of the day you got to think about like if what's more significant whether you win 85k Or 50k or if somebody wins 1500 to 500 dollars and I feel like it's more life changing for you to win Thousands of dollars than you just you know win a few hundred dollars. So I do feel like the the prize pool Even if it doesn't go up, it just needs to be Basically distributed more evenly especially more towards the top like the people who are winning these tournaments should be making a lot more money Yeah, I mean Listen, I've been on record to tell you I don't like club series at all Now I don't like to do that because I've been shitty in club series Uh, I guess I've played I've played two club series and I've been shitty. I've lost the mechanics both times You know, so for me I don't want to be the person that continually say I don't like club series because it makes me sound bitter And the last thing I want to do is to be the bitter old guy Even though I am sometimes but uh, I don't want to be that person But I I think club series as a whole holds back the entire mcs You know, but so but at the same time club series has a lot of benefits But I agree. I mean the money should be higher I mean look at this year this year how many different sponsorships have they had between this pizza hut stadium The snickers and all is probably other ones than that, you know, and so they're definitely making more money off the mcs now than Prior years So maybe we'll turn around this year and we get to get to two million dollars because five million dollars is like the The golden ticket essentially is like the the unreasonable amount that would be really good for the mcs But I think two million after being one point five million or whatever it was this year one point three four whatever I think two million is a good Number we could try to strive for for madden 21 and I agree I just like you said if I'm if I'm bazooka joe and this is my first mcs event and I get a check from ea That says five hundred dollars. I am absolutely stoked. I am I'm super happy Regardless whether it's five hundred or fifteen hundred because I just got five hundred dollars from playing madden So I think the difference in that money is not as vital as like you said the 85 to 65 Yeah, I definitely agree like and the thing too is I feel like if we did get a bigger price pool I do feel like a lot of that, you know, the the bigger price pool is going to go to the bottom Of the like the money like, you know, the guys who are just you know making the events Instead of it going to the top and I do feel like We the people who are winning these tournaments are making deep runs to be making more like drainy Actually says something crazy like You're gonna you're gonna hear this and be like wow drainy made more money this year than he made last year Yeah Because he he made obviously the the finals of club and that's crazy because drainy last year If you really think about it like if you if you don't include my season and skimbo season The third best season is probably drainy last year He made a finals in one one and he made a final eight and then He made more money from this year where he had a final eight and a finals Which is just kind of crazy like I just think that the club series is the money in club series It's just way too unbalanced where if if you do poorly in clubs It's kind of tough for you to make a good amount of money and madden And I don't think it should be like that for like minimum if you win if you win a tournament You should be minimum winning 50k For sure. Definitely and that's something skimbo skimbo won those two classic belts and They were kind of like they said 25k each. I want to say 25 and 35. It's like bro like Listen, I I I don't like club series. I don't I think it's a lot of negatives I think the negatives to the mcs outweigh the positives. I think That's just me person. I think one. It's a hand-selected tournament. It's like you just I don't like it But like I said, I have not done well at all in it. So it makes me sound better when I say I don't like it But like I said, we talked about man 17. There was no club series in man 17 There was but it was a side note, you know, and it was a more successful season for mcs I think everybody would agree with that, you know, everybody got paid a lot more in man 17 You know, and that's and that's the biggest difference is club series. All right Yeah, and if you want manambo, you want 75k Yeah, and then skimbo won 100 so there's 100k and a 75k and I believe spot me was 50k Yeah If you want a tournament like minimum minimum should be 50k Yeah, but let's agree with this everything is definitely on the uprise, you know, as it's definitely This and I've said this this is the biggest madden has ever been and it is the smallest it will ever be In that it's only going to get better. It's only going to Continue to grow thanks to jobs by all of us, you know put in an effort and continue to make this a great event You know and I and I think the good people continue to win it is a good thing It's a great thing because it gives your storylines. It gives you people to watch I think the fact that you know casuals are watching joke try to win his first belt after not winning for five six years You know, it's like, okay, like this is a storyline, you know Whereas if you get the randoms there all the time it's not it doesn't build up the same story and I think everything's super positive on uptick and I think two million dollars is a Ace a realistic goal for the prize pool next year. I really do and obviously we'd want more But I think two million would be a realistic. Do you agree with that? I agree. I definitely think you can get it too. I think people, you know saying five million is it's just unrealistic because The views and you know everything they're getting just doesn't account to giving us five million equal people compare four night But you know fortnight's having a hundred thousand people watch every every week Madden gives away more money percentage wise compared to their viewership than fortnight does it does it simply does madden Like I would probably say every e-sport compared to the views that they get madden gives away more money You know, it's just never going to be Any type of worldwide game. It's never going to beat that if we have our own demographic and people have to understand that So you can't even begin to compare it to the other games, you know, it just has to be where it is and like I said, it's on the uptick. It's only getting better and uh, you know We just got to continue to do our part and I feel like everybody Everybody in competitive man has done their part. You know, we've all grinded and really put on very well for The mcs in the last four or five years. So let's all up the ea and at the same time Oh, yeah, I think more people with the more money you put out there I think the more people watch, you know, if joker's playing for a million dollars rather than 65 k I mean shoot. I mean the more people are probably want to tune in, you know Yeah, that's that's also true But I mean the one positive is we could all agree is definitely going up. It's not like, you know The seat it's getting worse. Like maybe the structures have got worse, but Every year I feel like we're getting more viewers. We're getting more sponsors. So we're obviously more people are watching So we got to just like keep hoping that keeps happening and you know, hopefully the prize pool goes up with it No, no, how old are you now 26? Yeah, if I'm turning 27 in june, I will on june 13 Okay, do you feel like are you getting worse at mad? Not worse Like do you notice any difference from you playing mad now as opposed to when you were 21? No, honestly, uh I really still feel like so donny told me this interesting stat And I forget if it was last year and donny told me I was second in most pre snap adjustments per play And first was green. So I don't feel like, you know, like I mean, maybe as I get older Maybe my fingers might get slower and it's going to be tougher for me to set up defenses But as of right now, I feel like honestly, like I'm still in my prime and mad and I feel like I got a few more years Until maybe I start having, you know, some kids and a family I do feel like I can dedicate a lot of time to madden to, you know, continue to try to be as good as I can Donny says that you were the third oldest to ever win a belt So do you know who the oldest person to ever win a madden major in the history of madden is? Yeah, it's that uh, this one guy who flipped off and won a madden Yep, the oldest player to ever win a madden major going back to the history of madden The oldest player ever was me now mad I was 29 and I wasn't 30 because the 30 rule might be real It might really be real So once I turn 30 Who's the second oldest? Is it skim? I don't know. That's donny's. Donny knows all this stuff No skimbo's not that old. He's not that old. He's probably your age when he won Maybe well, maybe not in mad 19 Oh, I'll get what you mean. So who would be second stiff? Maybe I didn't I thought stiff might have been older than me I don't know how old stiff is That's actually crazy. I didn't realize I was a dirtle It's it's really crazy too because when I first started playing madden like I was the young person Like I started playing, you know, like evil and bros those dudes were all like the old ones And now like now I'm one of the old ones Yeah, you're definitely old man when I when I watch these these kids play like these face cams and shit I'm like, bro, what's like between having and d-croft and j wall and fancy is like, dude, what? Who else is even Noah? It's like, bro, what? But yeah, I don't know who the second oldest would be Yeah, they're kids man. They're kids But uh, what I do want to talk about your your blue long island because we are on the mic now Who is it skimbo's the second oldest? Okay, the blue long island now This is my opinion on the blue long island now. First of all, when joker ordered the blue long island You were probably what 23 or 22 it was it was probably three years ago, right? Okay. Yeah My opinion on the blue long island is one it definitely has a lot of liquor in it, right? Also a lot of sugar It's just not a drink that a man goes to bar and orders. That's all I feel like it's more of a feminine drink I feel like it's more maybe if you're 22 or 21 like you're what maybe it's possible you get a blue long island I just feel is it is not a man's drink that he goes to bar and order That's all me and jet. We're making fun of you about and you know to this day I feel like you still would order a blue long island No, if I go through a bar now, I'm definitely getting a Patrona Red Bull. Okay Patrona Red Bull Yeah, I'm over the The blue long islands, but we might need it. We might need we might need a boat a boat in the chat Hey look bruh Hey, if you drink if you chug three blue long islands, you are done for the night Oh, yeah, first of all Long Island is every liquor It can't be a girl's drink if it's getting you messed up It's just it's just yeah, but it's just it's just not the order The order I mean I'm not I didn't I I never said it was a weak drink that was never the word I said it was a little it was a little childish. That's all, you know I mean, I haven't drank one in a while, but I feel like you know, we might need a vote on that Then you also took a shot the other day, right? You went with the lime and a chaser Do you understand that the lime is the chaser? Okay. Okay. First of all, I got to break this down. So I don't know how about you guys But personally me when I get really drunk off a drink my body The next few shots I take, you know, I got to you know ease it in So maybe like three weeks before I you know during quarantine I drank a whole bottle of tequila and I was hungover for two days. I'm not kidding hungover for two days So, you know, once your body tastes tequila again, you start getting in flashbacks Yes, I have to go with the double chaser I'm not mad as long as you as long as you acknowledge the double chase. That's all some some people try to say the lime is not a chaser The line was definitely a chaser You know, but yeah, normally it's like if I'm hungover is the smell. That's the I smell is like It's like your stomach's telling you like nah, bro. I don't do it again Getting for you. But once you take that one shot after you're right back Yeah, I took two and that's all No, so what's what's next for dope? Like what's the summer going to look like? What is it? I mean Do you have any other goals? Not only this year, but you know in your future in manning like what what do you see in the next year in the next five years? So I'm going to start streaming a little bit I got like a like EA basically granted us some cards to practice with so I got a pretty insane mud team so I can't stream right now because uh until Basically, I get to take down all the equipment. They sent us. I have to do an interview with ESPN So until I do that, I can't take down all this equipment Once I'm able to like take all this thing out. I can basically connect my Elgato again So now like basically all my you know all my feeds are connected to this big box They sent us and I can't obviously you know take that out yet So as soon as I'm able to stream I'm probably going to stream some weekend league Maybe stream some occasionally Because I was having you know some fun when I was streaming before so probably stream a little more And then you know just still focus on the website Gotta make sure that we you know we get back to where we were to start the year And then you know just get ready for another year madden Just keep preparing like I did this year and you know put in the time and hopefully it pays off again For sure now you play weekend league and you put trust way out there. What's your record? Oh, I'm going 25 no without there's no way. There's no way There's no way 50 gifted 50 gifted. You don't go 25 no without a quarterback Okay, locked locked. There's no with trust way. There's no way. It's not happening Now now you will wind up 15 and oh, but I'm telling you somebody's going to get you No, I'm going 25 no without a quarterback Jesus, I did quit last time, but now I got every golden ticket in the game I got a million power-up passes for every power-up pass and I have every 99 overall You can possibly have my old my muck team right now. It's probably 99 overall Jesus But I'm telling you so and you're going to put trust way out there Trust way in Eli Trust way in Eli. I have two nasty streaks. I'm telling you these these kids are demons. They really are it's not It's not a joke out here and we can leave All right, it's 50 get to this lock As soon as I'm able to stream once I got all this equipment out of my room I'm moving up. All right. I'm telling you should I listen now 25 with trust way That's 50 gifted. I'm definitely dropping 50 gifted if he does that Uh But uh, that's how I appreciate one thing before I go I do want to talk about the spot me thing because you know, it means a lot to me And obviously means a lot to you. I think that was that was super special that you You know kept coming up short and then you put the Titans jerseys on and go ahead and win Talk about that and what it meant to you and you being able to do that with the Titans jerseys on It was actually kind of crazy because uh, I didn't even realize honestly I'd be able to choose whatever jerseys I wanted and then Chow hit me up and was like a what jerseys are you using and at that point I was already using the Titans jerseys So that's kind of when I realized like, you know, this is the last tournament Let me just try to dedicate this one a spot And like being spot used to talking about this a lot because I remember the first tournament he won He he actually beat me and that's the tournament where he kind of told me like, you know If you win I'm going to beat skimbo so we can like after like the classic when he won That's when I actually started becoming close to spot and then the next season He basically used the team I made for him because at that point We were both running the same offense where we were running, you know Bunch titan and we were running the two titan sets So that's kind of when I started getting really close to spot And you know, I just felt like there's there was no better way to end the season And like, you know, what if I can win a tournament where I dedicate to spot And I do feel like I should have said this in my interview I do feel like EA tries to throw what happened under the rug and they don't really mention elot And you know, they don't mention spot They don't mention true boy and it's I feel like it's something it's it's bad on their part because I get you know They're in lawsuits and I still feel like they should try to keep their memory alive And not I've watched every single game I played Not one time that any of the commentators ever mentioned why I was using the jerseys and why my team name was rip So to me it was just kind of a way to keep his memory alive because EA doesn't really afford out of doing that Well, and and you know, and that's why I've always felt like it's my responsibility You know, I take that as part of our responsibility, you know, you can't rely on them to do that Uh, and and you did a great job with that and and going to that I feel like in the last Because I remember back in man 16 when I used to whoop your ass on on the leaderboards confirmed, right? Yes, whoop. I used to drag joke. Joke did not like 3d. He's gonna blame it on on the the the the My team look dove. I'm not kidding. You made e and b by 20 million dollars worth No, look, no, he did not like 3d. I used to drag joke and what did and joke used to come in the chat That'd be sucks. Bye. Bye. Bye. You're so fucking bad Play me for a thousand right now on rags, but right that was joke. That was the old joke And I I do feel like you've become a a a better man and a more matured being the last since I've known you And been close with you in the last four or five years And I definitely think this was the pinnacle of that Very happy for you and proud of you becoming a little bit less of a dick Now you're not all the way out of you know being a dick area. You're still there You know saying but you definitely have become a better human being and and that's one thing I love about mad and I see it happen to so many other people that just mad and has you know Really made them become better people whether it be becoming more social becoming, you know Just better human beings in general and I think your prime example of that. Like I said, I'm very happy for you and congratulations again Yeah, I honestly I feel like in a lot of situations where I see myself, you know being a dick and Not being a good person. I just go I'm like, you know, what would spot me doing? I feel like spot me was the nicest person we had in the community So that that that just shows me a lot. You got to just try to be a better person like because you know Like nobody can ever say anything bad about spot or true boy And you know like I that's kind of how I want people to view me So like, you know whenever I feel like, you know, I'm not being a good person I kind of just like reflect back and be like, you know spot wouldn't have done that So that's another reason to why I try to dedicate this tournament to him because again, like he just doesn't Keep his memory alive. He doesn't show how good of a person you were Yeah, for sure. And I think like I said, that's that's probably always going to be the darkest part of For ea, so it's going to be tough for them to continually bring that up. So that's our job And that's one of my that's why when I go I wear a t-shirt every single day that I go out I go outside the house, you know, it's it's really my responsibility and one of my burdens For honestly the rest of my life. And I think we we've all done a very good job of that Between both true boy inspired me and I'm glad you were able to win that way Just made it a little bit more like like you said destiny. I mean, I think that that was a What it all came down to Yeah, it definitely feels like everything just cancels circle There you go. But I appreciate you coming on here I will be going to eliteman.com to go find some of the defenses that were ran Because I need to learn how to run match So if you guys want to learn how to run match, I joke tried to explain it But it didn't work and I'm going to go on mutt and get absolutely people are going to be wide open So I'm going to go to eliteman.com and figure out how to do that But once again, I really appreciate you hopping on man. And congratulations once again Appreciate it. Thanks. All right, my god There it is man joke Ride the Elbrido the madden 20 champion the best player madden 20 Uh, really I said pretty much broke it down as well as possible I really explained a lot of things still don't know how match works So youtube if you guys know how match works, please break it down I really feel like there I don't know what to I don't know how it works But it works really good with joke worked very well with him And he was able to win a belt using that match concept against bunch And uh beating beating deep crafts and we talked about his defense versus that and really holding it down for the man community When his first belt But all in all I and I asked you guys I will tell you this right now What do we think about man 20 this was the belt this was the last tournament this was a a You know, obviously the the year is over the mcs year is over. What is our total view of the year? I mean, I kind of like the game I do But when you look back at the four belt winners and nobody do a pass of of relevant pass You know, I mean that's kind of a Black cloud over the year of man 20 a really black cloud You know So I don't I'm not the one to say it's the uh the worst Madden ever I don't think that's I think that's really a rush to judgment. And I think it's a we kind of forget the past Uh game was fun, but ass I kind of agree with that. All right I don't know I just and will it Taint the whole year was when we look back at this year because this is how Madden works chat You guys you guys agree with me on this is that? Um, when you look back at the year say, okay, oh wait was spec catch year 09 was rocket curls. Okay 10 was one of them was slam outs, right? I don't really remember all the way I think 12 was uh throw streaks inside pass leaf streaks inside or outside Um sugar blitz and you think about two man 16 was just spec catching throwing the ball up And uh, you know a spectacular catch pretty much aggressive catch 17 might have been swerve or nickel blitz and then 18 91 zone 19. What would 19 come down to really? I don't really know what 19 would be called And man 20 is going to be the no quarterback. That's uh, you know Maybe mad 19 was his high ball low ball really You know Our different route comes and everything But that's why we look back at it. I think honestly the mcs year all in all I think it's got to be a w you know The mcs the tournaments the way they were thrown the way they're executed the production Uh everything about the tournaments. I think have to be a w right chat. There has to be a w whether from Even the prize pool being low Yeah, so I feel like it was a fun man But like I said the mcs year I I feel like has to be a w from what mc what ea drew Uh, the production the the way they executed every single tournament has to be a w. You know, I really do You know I think it was when you talk about the game if the game is going to continue to be a 40 second play clock And five minutes. I I really think running is really going to still have a It would have to be really really bad and let's be real has the run been really really bad in the mcs error You know, let's think about has the run. I would say 17 the run wasn't that good I'm trying to think about Everybody at a one that year passed the ball. You know, I don't think there was one like runner You know what I'm saying? I don't think 17 ever had a run but problem Is 17 problem didn't even really run maybe inside zone Inside zone only But that was dollar blew up inside zone. I I would tell you problem. I don't even think he was a runner man I mean he went down there and ran But I don't think he was a runner 19 See a 19. I kind of didn't play really. I kind of wasn't locked in at all Really after Jacksonville and everything 19. I really don't even really remember too much really Money always one need to be more and and and to think about money needs to be more and see what I feel like money's kind of been too similar to the first year 17 Was like 1.7 million with 2. I think I think 2 million is a good number for us to shoot at You know what I'm saying? I think that's the biggest The biggest thing we can look at is next year Hopefully 2 million is a good number. Yeah 18 18 air trust. So really Was a runner year really Yeah, I think jab when you're the best is something I think you do deserve some more money, you know, josh I think that's yeah You know Good job. No, so you're learning. I see no, that's how I know you'll be watching You're already spending money, but you don't keep no you could be skimbo or you could be me You could be broke or you could be skimbo just sitting chilling, you know, which one was better When you really think about it No, no one learns really But yeah, I really do think uh 2 million prize pool would be really good honestly I do think uh 2 million is a good number to get in the format. I mean If club series is going to be a thing which it will be, you know, I don't think that's going anywhere. Um, I think The format's going to be similar Yeah, no, let's be real and this is what's crazy It's not like we're going to stop playing the game because the prize pool is 1.4 million, you know They could honestly probably make the prize for 800k and weed's probably still lock in the same way, you know Yeah, as I see I go out there, you know, I did order some some stuff for the room today. Uh I made a compromise with my girl. She said we need some Ohio State stuff, right? It was a tough compromise chat. She said you need some Ohio State stuff for the office right now for me The only way I could do that. I grabbed the Malcolm Jenkins autographed helmet. I grabbed the Ohio State helmet Felt like that's a w Malcolm Jenkins is probably one of my top 10 players ever that fan of Malcolm Jenkins helmet has pretty dope. So So that's what I went with You know, I had to add something I had to add something to the uh To the archives here From Ohio State really well, I said I do feel the year the year was good. I enjoyed the mcs I enjoyed watching every game, you know, maybe one day I'll be a part of the game again. We'll see You know, gotta spend more time. I need to add some runners, bro I need to add some runners Did you hear a joke named all the people he know that run? Like how are you gonna stop an army of runners, right chat? How is that like what? Yeah, we get Noah Noah Noah squad. Come on, man. Sign up Noah. We need at least we need another runner Jay got Jay. I don't know how they got Jay bird. I don't know how that happened I thought Jay bird was squad. He's gone You know But who else man, kids would be Noah. We need five. We need five different people, bro We need five different people, bro Five different runners I gotta find you know who I gotta find really I gotta find one of these weekend league kids. That's a demon running the ball You know, that's what I need to find one of them dudes Ethan bro, Ethan They got carried to they got to where they are all runners I hope his next year is a passing year because they don't have ghosts no more Ghosts was their passing was their passing offensive coordinator, right, bro. I'm gonna be real. Yes. We need tweeds fact Bro facts bro, listen Tweeds we need tweeds But for real I'm telling you telling you right now If passing comes back, you know, I'm telling you EMB might be and I don't know who the passing coordinator is Watch I'm telling you that's it Listen Mike. I'm telling you watch. This is how your joke is slight watch watch passing be good against somehow He back with ghosts watch watch Watch it happen They won't be tweeting each other like ha ha ha. I'm telling you something joke. Not stupid, bro Joke is smart. They don't have a passing game coordinator. I don't even know who wouldn't be the next person to coordinate the passing game EMB Who would it be? I don't know who it would be. It would probably be joke Little man though beast mode Don't not man. I don't know bro drag man. Drag's pretty good. But drag always ran something Listen drag only only ran run something a little unique. I don't think EMB could incorporate the drag offense though That's gonna be rough, bro I don't listen we'll see But I'm just telling you I think ghost finds his way back into the back into the that corner, honestly Really But like I said, this was we are up over two hours now or Closing on a two hour mark. I said every single butt winner is hopped on the show I appreciate all you guys for your support But we're gonna get TD Barrett. It might be somebody we got to grab I got the youtubers fa fa fa my youtubers are scomo and cc. Those are my youtubers and toke But that's my that's my gang I'm saying I don't need no other I don't need any other youtubers in that I'm that I've had enough of hanging out with those youtubers really Yeah But like I said, no seriously about joke. He's definitely become like A better dude, honestly, he really has um and it's cool to see I said I used to drag him up and down the field and madden 16 Drag joke up and down the field. He was mean, you know saying he was a mean asshole But now he's he's definitely turned to a better person as good to see Makes it because listen man 17 80 I would never be happy for joke like no joke got to use lose every game swear to god That's how I used to be But now I said madden has definitely helped his the whole community has helped him become just a better person And he's glad to see really I got to get out shine jeffrey I mean if he can block on blast, baby But anyway, this was the needed podcast episode 81. This is 81 Straight weeks of grinding out podcast. It's the summertime now little boys What are we going to talk about in the summertime on the podcast comment below on youtube because We're gonna need some ideas. We're gonna look back at classic games last year was all mad 17 I might go all mad in 18 classic games this summer all mad in 18 Favorite games mad 18 comment those below if you're still here listening, you know the deal drop your cash app Or your paypal you supporting this just so much I support you guys don't do it in the chat because your chat guys are you guys are definitely really uh thirsty You know, but uh, yeah for sure, uh mad the summertime is going to be fun Definitely going to keep adding to our our list our podcast list of you know, everything we want knowing madden 21 And going to keep grinding out all the old games and things of that nature really Bass madden runs bracket Oh, we always have time. Yeah, exactly. Well, somebody's gonna start beefing or something. We're gonna have some argument really Old joker knows mcnasty knows all the good man 18 games an awards show Danny, when should we have an awards show? Now i'll be real. I how would we do though? I think I would pick the awards How would an awards show work and I need to get trophies for these guys? I'm gonna get this what we're gonna do We're gonna do a war show That's a good idea. I'm literally going to buy trophies. All right, and we're going to mail trophies to these guys All right, a war show. Listen We're going to throw the suit on for the war show I will pick rookie of the year right player of the year Give me two weeks. I'm after I gotta look into this. Let me look into this because i'm going to get trophies I'm going to mail people trophies because we got listen. We're either doing it for real or we're not doing it Right chat you out full send put the full sends in the chat. We're full sending the awards show. All right This is mcs awards. This show is completely about competitive men. All right. We're not doing the best youtuber We're not doing the best highlights. So we're not we're doing this is this is we need our Topics we don't need four or five Or we need we need solid About game of the year right game of the year So two people will get a trophy or there's just the winner for game of the year get a trophy I would say just a winner, right? You can't give the loser a trophy 10 I need to buy 10 trophies. All right. That's a little nuts I think you need rookie of the year The mvp most improved. How about the most improved award? most improved game of the year And what's the other one? Sexy, you see our y'all took it weird No, we're not doing best room. I mean, I'm not giving out trophies for best worst room best fit no Play of the year well play of the year got a million snickers Offensive and defensive player of the year We'll decide the awards. Yes next podcast. I'll decide the rewards I will go ahead and and Come up. I don't want tenor. I don't want lifetime achievement Weekend league demon of the year That would probably be fancy. All right Best fighter Pony, you know jumbo wins nothing here Pass of the year It's tough to find one pass of the year I'd have to go back and we'd have to really talk about who would win these awards But next week I will figure out the exact awards and we'll talk about them So next week we'll figure out five or six awards, right? And we'll talk about who we think could be in there Then we can go through and we can come up with nominees, right? And then and then I will choose who to who that's it. I don't care I'm choosing who's number one So if cleft wins three awards, y'all just gonna have to deal with it If skimbo wins the award for best play when he had no good plays all year Y'all just gonna deal with if bogs wins the award for best team construction You guys are just gonna have to deal with it. Okay. That's all that's why they watch You know That's all a twit, but twitter polls are dumb because it's just about oh, I know who journey is Let me vote for journey I'm saying That's all Chat just gonna choose. I'm saying So it's gonna be tough to be chat picks or the chat picks or twitter picks is always kind of weak Chat polls could work, but we're gonna talk about that next week. I will be next week. We'll talk all about Award show the awards and then we'll do we'll go ahead with the um with adding to the We could probably add two things next week to the wish list I will I listen we will email this wish list to marco We'll email this wish list to donnie. We'll email this wish list to you know, whoever the hell works on everybody I know ea is getting our wish list by the end of the year You know Yeah, I will see what listen. We'll figure it out Yeah, we're gonna fax it or we're gonna project it everything. You know, Sam Yeah, I don't want to be biased, you know, I feel like I can make good decisions on what the player of the year was Ryan Hollins best defense of the year All right. No, we're done. We're done. Yeah, we're gonna put it in the gmm chat This was the needle podcast episode 81. I said hit the like button put, you know, what what award should we have? What was the game of the year? What what do you think I'm at? Whatever the hell y'all want to put in the comment section put something in the comments