 Hey, hey, hey, hey there everybody. Sorry about the slight delays today. It's been quite the interesting day here. Let me make sure that I balance out the audio for you. Cole's running in and out. So I hope you all are having a wonderful Thursday here today. Hey Belmont. Hey Ariel. Hello from Korea. Thank you for coming. Aminimo snuffer stuffer. Welcome in Tony Escobar. Thanks for stopping by. Hey everybody, welcome back to the bunker. You've made it. It's Thursday. We're only one day away from our lovely weekend. And for me, I have quite an interesting set of things going on today. First off, you saw the thumbnail and the teaser. We have almost a Halloween possession here today of this CRT, which is a Sony PVM 14.05, but this particular one is a D like J because it's from Japan. And so I'll show you a little bit more about this. I have been working on this on Twitter. So if you've been following me on Twitter there, you'll know a little bit more about what is going on. You'll have an opportunity to have a leg up on the competition there. And I'm going to get to some shout outs here in a second. Thank you everybody for showing up today. First off, I really appreciate when everybody shows up here and drops a like for me at the beginning of the show. It definitely helps things get rolling. I'll probably talk about a couple of off topics for the first 10 to 15 minutes here. And then I will get into the main topic, which is trying to exercise the demons that are haunting this PVM 14.05 today. And so if you're coming in and this is, you know, you're late to the stream or you're coming in and watching this and you want to skip everything and get straight to the fun of the PVM troubleshooting, I will post a pinned comment below in the video and you can skip right to that section. So anyway, everybody, thank you again for dropping in. Thank you again for dropping a like and helping out the show that way. And let's get started on this Thursday. I hope all of you are doing wonderful. Today is October 19th and it is already the 12th official episode of the Bunker. And guys, if you want to go back and catch up on any of the first 11 episodes, all of these are archived on a playlist at the top of the playlist section for YouTube on my channel, Retro Tech. So before we get into our main topic today, I'm going to tell you a little bit about warranties and how warranties, oh, warranties, my friends, warranties, warranties, warranties, warranties, warranties. I have some fun stories for you about true situations with a warranty. And I thought there would be a fun thing to talk about. But before I get into that, I'm going to go through here. I'm going to say some shout outs to some people who showed up today early. Thank you, mega cards. Thank you, Ray Saroni for being here. Good to see you. EF Lover, thanks for coming back. I got your name right today. Demon 20 child. Welcome in, self elected. Welcome as always. Some of you I've already given you shout outs. So I will pertain to skip you this time. Kevin, thank you for coming. James Boone. Good to see you again. Lord in black. Welcome in. Bill D. Hello, Daniel Gonzalez. Thank you for being here. And Dave Hagg, self elected. I think I said you. Remus, remus racing row. And that's about everybody. And of course, thanks to Belmont our tried and true friend and moderator on today's stream. So first off, welcome in. We're gonna just, I just want you to kind of sit back and relax a little as I get into this first brief section of story time. Let the jazz kind of encapsulate you and get you in a nice, a nice relaxing mood. And whisper away your problems. Okay, just let them all go. And we're going to enjoy some time here. Definitely. Look, if you guys want to hang out in the chat, the chat is always awesome. I've never seen really itty trouble going on in there. So if you're here and you know, you're just a lingerer, but you want to say something, go ahead and say hi. Nobody here will bite you. There's a lot of cool people in there. And they're, you know, that's why I do the shout outs. Everybody's really cool. It's been like a year since I've had to moderate or ban anybody that was like spammers. And that's it. So thankfully, the stream has been a good clean place, a good fun place to talk about things. So, you know, take advantage of that. And let's get started. So just to give you a little bit of a background here. I did plan on making and I'll show you who's snoring if you're wondering. Cole's back in there sleeping. So we'll watch Cole for a second. And I'll go through the story a little bit with you. And let me turn down the jazz just a little bit. I don't want it to be too loud. Okay, that's better. And so I was I was setting up to film an episode on the JVC 20 inch D series CRT just yesterday. This was the one that I did feature on the stream not too long ago. It was the one that I mean, it's been the most popular episode. When I get you guys in a second, I'll show you some statistics. This show's been doing awesome. I just can't tell you, I appreciate everybody for really hanging with it and enjoying it and you know, coming in. But I was filming setting up to film this episode. And it it was literally the opening statements I was making kind of introducing it, talking about it just a little bit. And the whole segment was filmed on my GoPro Hero Black 10 GoPro. And this is a GoPro that I've been using. Funny enough, this was just about the one year point that I had had this bought it. And that'll all come into play into this story. So anyway, I got really frustrated because I did that whole opening C sequence, the whole filming thing of it. And when I grabbed my GoPro, I tried to shut it off and just hit the quick, the quick stop record button. And instead of turning off, the camera kept rolling. It said it was stopped recording, but it completely froze up. Now that's happened like two or three other times. So I have to always open the battery and then pull the card out and try to recover the files, right? So I did that procedure. It's just on an SD card. Not very difficult. You unplug it, you plug in your reader. I ripped the file. It rips fine. But then it says it's corrupted. I tried ripping it a couple times copying it saving it and it was just corrupted. So I was a little bit perturbed, but I was thankful that it happened on the first shot or the opening shot of this video. So I could just not have to worry about it and move on and kind of, you know, work on other things and let this video, you know, it's not an urgent thing. So anyway, sorry to get drawn out here with everybody. But anyway, the GoPro stops working. I get online. I start trying to look on how, you know, to troubleshoot it. I find out that I could still turn it back on. It's working like it normally would. It's not working great, but I get in there and I've got an older firmware apparently on it. It's 1.2. So I go on to GoPro's website and it's GoPro first off has the worst app. So you don't want to really use the app. There's a manual way to go in, it says and update the firmware. So I tried to go find that. And funny enough, when you go to GoPro's website and you try to do that, they don't even give you the link. You'd like go do the manual here and then it says firmware not available. And, you know, just to prove that, I guarantee you, if I go over here to my dashboard and I pull this up and if I went to the GoPro site, look at this, it's already showing you stuff about the GoPro. But anyway, here, I don't want to do that anyway. But so that'll make my story go too long. If I go and do that. But anyway, if you go in there and try to update the firmware, you can't get the firmware. So you can open chat boxes with GoPro pretty easily. You get some service. And I started looking through my books and I found this and it says here like this is one of the documents that was in my packet. It says limited lifetime warranty. And it says that, you know, the GoPro warrants this product for its useful life, not to exceed two years for products with electrical or electronic components. Okay. So this was in my bundle. I thought I had a two year warranty. And I did have a bunch of other accessories. So, you know, maybe it was an accessory warranty that they gave me this for. But anyway, I got in the chat room. I started scrambling because I couldn't find my receipts from this purchase. And I started opening a chat, right? And they're like, well, when did you buy this? And I said, well, I think it was last fall about a year ago. And so the first gentleman on chat says, well, why don't you update the firmware? You have an older firmware. And I said, yes. And he said, I will manually email you the link. And he did. He manually emailed me a link to a process on how to manually install firmware. And then he emailed me a link that actually gave me a firmware update to version 1.5. Oh, it said. So I said, okay, I'm going to follow these instructions just like it says. And I did it. I did it. And it freaking bricked. It bricked the GoPro. Like the GoPro, if you turned it on after the update, all it would do is power cycle immediately, it would immediately turn itself off and then turn stuff on and off, on and off, on and off, on and off, on and off. And it would never fix itself. So I was like, oh my gosh. So I'm in the chat and I'm like, and he starts asking, oh, well, when did you exactly buy this? And I said, I don't know exactly. They said, well, we need your, we need your proof of purchase. We need your proof of purchase. And I said, you're going to have to give me some time. So please open a case and give me a link to start sending you documentation. So immediately after this, and again, I was trying to make a silly video on the JVCD series, which was all postponed thanks to this fiasco with GoPro. So I'm on the chat and I'm, and I'm getting these documents together. And I find it, I couldn't find the physical receipt from last October, but I find my credit card statement from my Costco account. And this is where I bought the product from was Costco because it was a bundled Costco deal. So I said, Hey, I bought it from Costco. Here's the receipt for that transaction. And I didn't find the receipt. I just found my credit card transaction. I copied that. I sent that into them. And I realized that yesterday was the 18th of October. And so I actually purchased it on the 14th of October in 2022. So one year and four days ago, I purchased it since when I reached out to GoPro. So I'm talking to them and I'm, I'm, I'm like, Hey, I submitted that. And they're like, Okay, well, we have to get approval because that's not really a receipt. And I said, Okay, well, if I find a receipt, I'll open another chat and refer back to this case. I went on. Thank God for Costco. Let's listen to what they do. If you're a member of Costco, they archive your receipts for two years, two years. So I was able to go in. Thankfully, I could find that since I knew it was on October 14 that I bought it. I found a copy of my physical receipt archived on Costco.com. And I was able to just take a PDF of that and upload it and send it in. So I got all that uploaded. And then I uploaded a picture of this, my warranty, which I just showed you. And I said, you know, this thing was a package deal I got from Costco. So I realize, I realize there's no, I don't know, this says it's under warranty. I didn't even know anything else. Well, then the person that I got next in chat, when I uploaded all this stuff, I opened up another chat, I said, Hey, I put all this documents in. Here's my case number. Will you check it out for me? The guy comes back. He's really cool. But he's like, Yeah, this is out of warranty. And I said, What do you mean it's out of warranty? I said, Well, Costco in the United States now, now only warranties their products one year. I said, one year. Okay. And I said, That doesn't make any sense. One year. And he said, Well, hang on. You know, I'm sending this through to approval. Since you've sent all this documentation, and you've been nice. And, you know, we're gonna, we're gonna try to work with, I just have to get a supervisor to approve this. And I and you know, I was sitting there. So I was just being patient. And they looked at all the documentation. And and then they were like, I don't know if it's going to go through. And I said, Well, I just want to remind you that it was your first customer service specialist that, you know, we both have recorded the whole thing here of our conversation. I said, They actually sent me an individualized file with firmware on it that bricked my camera. It was actually working before that. And he said, You know what? You're right. And surprisingly, they agreed to give me an RMA return. And I've sent the camera back to him. I got the file. I got everything mailed off yesterday. So they're supposed to send me a new one back. And I was very cool. I wasn't like bashing them saying, Hey, I have a YouTube channel. I could go talk trash about you. But I was I was dumbfounded because I seriously was there was a second in my brain that I thought they were going to deny my camera and make me, you know, they were going to go by this warranty and say that I had gone four days past the warranty, which I guess they could have, right? They could have done that to me, right? But thank God, they didn't. So I do get a camera back. But if you think about that, I mean, if the problem isn't just that I had invested, I had invested $420 on the package, but I had also invested another $200 plus in accessories for this camera. And so I would have had to go back and bought another one of these cameras that was pretty much probably going to be defective like this next one, I'm not going to expect more than a year out of it. And I figure if I get two years out of this kind of a piece of technology, I'm okay with that price for $600 for two years, but $600 for one year is very hard. And I would have had to pay $250 to replace this camera. So I am thankful that that went my way. But it was an interesting thing about warranties and how they absolutely are like almost a joke. Think about that one year. And I've been asked, what do I do if like people have asked me about warranties for repairing CRTs? And I was like, how, I mean, I don't want to be a jerk, but how do you expect me to go and honor some kind of warranty? These are big companies like GoPro that are trying to weasel out of every warranty, not not this one, because they actually didn't try to weasel out of every warranty. These guys did everything at least to help me, but some companies and I'm so we can't say GoPro is they actually did go through and help me with this RMA, but it's a one year warranty is just a joke. Like here's another thing I probably could offer a one year warranty, but no, the reason I say that is because I've done numerous jobs for people and I see them year in and year out at conventions. And I'm always like, Hey, how's that monitor doing? And they're probably surprised I even remember that I serviced or, you know, something fixed their CRT or restored it. And so anyway, I don't even know what the heck the point of that. I'm sorry if I bored you to death. I hope I didn't run everybody out of like our show already today with that silly story. But we'll say we got a decent sized crowd going. We're about 20 minutes in. This is about the point we're going to jump over and start working on our main topic today. Okay. And so that's what we're going to do. We're going to first look at some stuff here that I posted. But if everybody wants to know what we're looking at, it's this, it's this discolored mess of a PVM. And I'm not really sure what's wrong with it. Okay. And so we're going to try to see how much troubleshooting we can do and about the next hour. So hopefully my, you know, everything will go well, maybe we'll get lucky and figured out. But either way, we're going to try. So everybody, this is the big moment. About 20 minutes in. This is where the time stamps going just to remind myself. So welcome in today to our special topic. And my guest appearance, or my special guest today is the Sony PVM 14L5. Again, this is a Japanese model. It's not an American model. It was imported. And it was meant to be serviced by me. And yes, it is the D 14L5J. And yes, it does look dim. Okay. What happened here was this, this was supposed to be sent to me to service. And it was actually sent UPS air in a nice package that survived shipping from Japan. Okay. It survived shipping from Japan. But of course, when UPS got their hands on it, they couldn't help themselves. They just had to smash. They just had to smash our poor girl here, the D 14L5J. They just had to go in there and just kick the thing. I don't know what they did because they smacked the back and it cracked the neck board and it busted the back shell on our poor darling here. And so it's, it's just a tragedy what they did. And of course, we opened up the old insurance claim with them and they have been dragging their feet now since July. It's been three months. And of course, they're not doing anything. And oh, they're just so disappointing sometimes, you know? So, all right, we got a $5 super chat from Robert Cattilier. Cattiller. Sorry if I say that wrong. I won't be able to hang around for today's exorcism. I wanted to say hi and drop a thumbs up, hit that thumbs up like button for Steve. Everyone, it helps. Thank you so much, Robert. I mean, how awesome is that? Robert wanted to pay five bucks to have me say that for you guys. So please do it for him. And for me, it does help the show. It really does. It will make 10 new viewers come in every time like a like gets hit. It results in 10 new viewers. They, it's just the way the algorithm works. It's just the way everything happens on YouTube anymore. It's like if you hit, that's all you really need to do. You know, super chats are nice, but you can just hit like if that's really, that's free if you're able to. And yeah, when you do that, it results in 10 new views. It's just like that. Like the last video, they had 170 likes 1700 views. That's the count for the last live show from last week or no Monday. All right. So anyway, back to this poor 1405. Oh, thank you, Steve. You're so kind to maybe you can help me out here. Okay, don't worry. We'll do our best. So anyway, what have I done so far? Like I said, if you if you follow me on twackers or twixers or Twixies or Xers or Twitter, you'll know a little bit about what's happening here. And this may play audio. So what we'll do is we will pause. If I can get to it, I will pause jazz for a second. And let's expand this little player here. And I should have volume. So I'll turn that audio up a little, and we'll watch this little clip I made and post it to twaxers. Hey there, folks, I'm in shop with a 14L five. And the colors are just all out of whack. I'm not really sure if this is only a problem with the magnetism, but we're gonna try to set you up here and show you a way to hopefully correct this. Hopefully it'll correct itself right away. Let's try this. You guys have seen this a number of times, but this is the first thing to try. Let's try again. Interesting. Definitely gonna have to pop this open because something is messing with the magnetism. Maybe the yoke is off. All right, and that's kind of where we're at. Sorry about that blast of jazz to your ears. I didn't. Anyway, that is where we are at. And now we can actually go over here and look more at this thing live. So that's the only thing I've done. I turned it off after that, or I didn't turn it off. Actually, it's been running the whole time. Now the tube looks like it's seen its days, right? It's not very bright. The red looks low low, but also the colors are just ugly. Something's going on in here. Something is definitely going on. See how it's not like keeping balance. It's not it's not keeping its purity. It's actually getting worse. So I don't know whether, see how it's it's also like there's something that's shorted out. So my guess is there's either something that's shorted out in here and maybe we can see that or something happened to the tube possibly. So the plan today is to first go in here and we're going to inspect around. We're going to open this thing up and then we're going to we're going to you know if unless we see something that's like right off the top that's loose that's busted that we can fix we're going to hook up the tube tester to this okay and hey everybody hey everybody it is my 16th wedding anniversary today so I know my wife's not watching this show because she's too busy doing doing her own thing but I love you sweetie just in case you are I doubt it you know too bad that's okay drop a like for our anniversary if you don't mind that's my shameless plug and request so let's just go ahead well I guess before I'll show you a couple more screenshots right here of look and just look at how bad these colors this is supposed to be that's white but man I feel like I can see like some burn in this tube when I look closer at it that's supposed to be red and that's supposed to be green and that's supposed to be blue no I don't know I'm confused now like the colors are either inverted because something's damaged this is uh well this sets multi-format area so it can actually do any any area but yeah I'm in TSC but it's uh it can do you know any region this monitor can so anyway we're gonna try to see if it can pinpoint anything that's causing this look at that see that means there's like a ground thing going on too hey stan buried bits welcome in bill d thank you for coming thank you devin yeah this is the Japanese variant of the 1405 now um I'll start taking this apart and I did test you know all right get that out of the way get some cables out of the way so don't destroy them by rolling on will it zap no this one probably will not zap man my camera's starting to glitch out on me guys I'm sorry I might have to switch over to the main overhead view if that happens some more this busy there okay that's a little bit better so you won't be so dizzy you can see what I'm gonna do because I'm gonna remove this shell and I'm sorry about that camera glitch and I'm really gonna replace this when the new thank you race I'm really gonna play uh hey nully I'm really gonna replace this camera when the new logitech camera comes out so let's get going yeah I don't know it could be that um it could be my guess is it's either something's busted and there's a short either on one of the boards maybe in the power area that's controlling the degauser uh maybe something I don't know um or the the yoke has had something happen to it where it's shifted possibly or the purity ring on the yoke may bust all the warranty on this camera's well passed I'm not I'm not doing that anymore thankfully the live stream cameras are fine except for that one good grief man I have had I keep forgetting how much trouble I have with new cameras everything new stinks right everything new just isn't built with it's built with planned obsolescence in mind I guess and no that's not my stomach growling I know it's lunchtime time and is our boy Cole who's just out okay hey toky doky toky doky thank you thank you for coming welcome to the show today got a look over and saw welcome in thank you for chopping by and stopping and uh saying hi because uh that's what it's all about we're here to have a good time look at some killer hardware and uh hopefully for luck you will fix it I'm going to show you how this case is busted there's there's a big plastic chunk out right here side screws out yeah the cameras I use on the the main camera right here is a sony alpha 5100 that I've had forever and it's about the best most solid streaming camera I've had so you can change the lens and it's it still does 1080p 60 even though I don't run the show with that anymore because apparently doing that just eats up too much of the system's capabilities and sometimes it causes things to crash hey mercury good thank you it's my as I mentioned before if you're coming in here late we're working on this 1405 and we're going to hopefully troubleshoot and find out the exact issue it was damaged by our friends ups or ups here in the United States and they uh you know they really haven't been honoring their not even warranty their insurance and so we're going to try to see if we can maybe save this crt because it was damaged and shipment by them and so you know the possibilities are endless today if we fix this if we come in here and it's like a little thing and we fix this it will be the happiest day for me and then I'll get to go have a wonderful anniversary evening with my wife how about that and I don't know what just bumble on build down there maybe a screw can I hit and get out okay so first off this when I got this in this whole back plate was completely dislodged and pushed against the neck board you could see where it's actually broken off some plastic up in this section and then there's a big crack but I was able to get you know it didn't actually make it unusable it's still got a crack in it see it's still cracked and it would be separated if you removed it at that part and then there's that piece of the plastic missing right next to the rivet but aside from that I was able to get this back together oh well here's a problem look at this thing so first off this is completely just decided to disintegrate now this deflection board is just like barely hanging on so it could have been leaning against something causing distortion undoubtedly so let's try it first to just maybe we can move this out of the way a little bit golly what a mess and uh run another test I can but check that out check that out like the thing is just free floating that and the board behind it so that's not good right so first thing oh well yeah okay so I can't tell you one thing watch this watch this so if I I'm gonna try to zoom and I don't want to damage anything first off there's like cracks in this board but there were some cracks and I fixed them yeah there's a crack down the center of this board but I was able to get everything patched up on there okay thank you Belmont there's really nothing left on this mount and I'm somebody does have a file to print this arm I don't know and I don't have I might be able to find something that's better than this because this is literally just hanging on by a thread but I do think I figured out what's causing the purity issue and it's this thing on the diagram neck of the tube and I don't have oh I do have the cold cam which maybe I can get over in there but try to okay all right here's what I'm gonna do I'm gonna go try to find a yoke that's rep representative of this and I could show you what I think has happened okay check this out oh check it out let's uh let's take a look at another yoke how many you guys got this at home how many you guys got boxes like this in your house Sony pvm crt yokes Marius let's just do a mystery grab and see what five flies out oh look at this got one here okay fun stuff you never know what you're gonna see in a live episode of the bunker so sorry if I busted your eardrums there but let's go to the facial cam hey chris welcome in this is my friend mr deflection yoke and this is one of the most important one of the most important pieces of hardware in a crt and I know maybe some of you guys have never seen inside a yoke before look at that isn't that just sexy hardware oh yeah maybe look at all that luscious copper right there baby that if that doesn't if that doesn't wet your whistle I don't know what does so you've got one of the sides of these is vertical one is horizontal and then there's just loops on it and that's what it's doing the whole monitor is set up sending signals and part of it is the deflection of this is telling the screen where to go and keeping everything correct for your deflection right pushing everything out there trying to get everything to the end of that tube and make your deflection and your geometry on the edge looks super nice and so this is a good high quality pvm yoke that would be from a 20 inch pvm now this is not the 20 elf or the l5 version but what it is is bigger and it has the same basic hardware on it that this one has so you've got a couple of and you could I've got videos I've got videos on this for days right so you've got your yoke rings right here there's three sets of them generally some have more some have less but most colored tubes are going to have three sets of rings I believe it's the furthest two yeah like the last two closest to the yoke right here those actually control your purity and you can rotate them and spin them and it will change the purity on your tube you'll be watching it in the color you'll start ending up with these colors in the corners so you set that right and then you move on well the other part of this is there's this like lens magnet over here and this is it's always glued in you see how it's got that big hunk of sorry I know it's focusing like trying to focus see how it's got this big hunk of glue right here let's see if I can get that baby see this little piece right here it's glued in right here and uh let me see well this one's really in there and really glued good right I don't think this one's budging but anyway that's a piece and what is what happens is if that glue breaks which has happened on this tube I can't get this glue is too good on this older one but it's it's much easier to break on the l5 so what's happened is that's broken free and now I can pull that in and out watch I'll show you yeah that's why hey keep these away from the salvagers from the scrappers okay what do you think what do you think a scrapper is gonna do with that they're gonna have a heart attack crack heads are gonna go out there and be living like uh you know a king for an hour so in this yoke which you can see right here where my hand is it's not it's gonna be difficult for me to show you everything let me I can move this a little bit out of the way can you see that right there can we see that let me see now this is gonna be a little grainy but I'm gonna expand my picture for a second and we're gonna try to zoom in there and it's gonna be grainy I apologize we're gonna try to get a little bit picture I'm gonna try to get a better better shot for you to be able to see exactly what I'm talking about on this l5 and again maybe we're maybe I'm barking down the wrong tree but right where my cursor is is that piece that I've been explaining to you on this yoke and it uses this white glue which is much easier to break through watch this yeah see that's been that's been pushed in that's actually been pushed in this is it oh folks I just hit my dad got funny boat on the edge of this my knee on the edge of this under the table oh you can't make this up oh so we gotta love it oh okay back to back to back to composure steve here okay here's here's this piece on this yoke but if you look at the back of it it's got magnets on it it's got some magnets right there flip it around for you and what happened was this got that that deflection board broke and shipping and got smashed into the yoke and it pushed this in pushed that in and when it does that when it does that it's going to throw the purity off and it will never be adjustable that looks like the only thing that's moved man that's smart you know so what i'm going to do we're going to try to get this set up we're going to try to get this reset now actually let me go back and I don't want you to look at that why don't you look at that one no I have to let you look at this one to change it I'm going to reset the camera no problem and what my my goal here is to reseat this part back in here and I'll line it up with where I about think it is and then I need to somehow suspend this out of the way to safely try and test this and I should be able to just give myself a little bit more room with this wire bundle right here and uh gosh it's just it's got to be something like that right so I can set this down on top of that heat sink right here if I can just keep it from shorting on anything which is a strong task strong big thing to ask here right that's that now I'm going to try to slip this in here back in its spot right behind there and then there we go where do we think it was I think it was maybe there may need to be pushed in a little bit but I think I don't know let me see we're going to start first off I'm going to start right there I'm going to start right there hey negator tell us a bad joke a bad joke or a bad joke that's actually pretty good that actually is so we may be on to something here what we're going to do is I'm going to try to just power this on I'm going to have to try to set it up stably and get everything run into it prior to me actually powering it on just to make sure I don't blow anything up short anything out and let's see let's see if we can fix this let's see if we can get this one to work now I shouldn't have to worry about only use I mean I'm using s video right now but that doesn't matter this problem will show on all any resolution any input because it's a purity problem so it's actually born this this this bv pvm sorry not bvm pvm is born October of 2002 so let's congratulate it on turning 21 this month and hopefully we can help we can help her celebrate with a lovely beverage if we can get her to fix herself up here all right so before I I'm gonna I'm gonna just shut the power off to that surge protector so I can plug this in and not be worried about anything right now all right there's a bunch of things I'm gonna loosen up some cables over here so I can give my deflection stack a little more space stack on there just set up yeah see there aren't there the cables are longer so you really don't have to do anything but I can give myself a little bit of space right there so all this stuff isn't just you know in danger of always shorten out oh baby come on and look at this thing crazy I don't want that to short out on anything so I'm just gonna let that we'll just let that guy hang out up there let's go let that boy hang out up there yeah yeah this is safe right it's totally safe whoa totally safe totally safe maybe we should get some helping hands involved here there we go that actually looks pretty good that actually doesn't look too bad does it so all right folks this is your big chance this is your big chance drop me a like and let's let's hope it helps drop me a like for this attempt if you can if you haven't already like I say every time you drop a like it helps it helps us get some more viewers in here which is awesome now let me plug my s video you might ask why would I do s video it's because it's a lot less cabling than having to deal with trying to put a skirt input and everything in the back of there with all that other crap I'd need five sets of those helping hands so let's see all right this is our moment this is our moment folks let's see what we can get turn that on we do have power checker checkeroo hey it's turning on I can hear it I can hear those phosphorus firing up we say no sink no sink okay oh well oh that's too bad dog on it I can tell that we're not any better no let me let me wiggle that around and see if that helps any dog on it well unfortunately that's not that's not the problem because it's not affecting it in any way well that only leaves us one thing to do like let's test this tube and see what the analyzer says uh and just go from there so yeah it's time let's let's rip this sucker back apart turn it around and we'll stick on the uh we'll stick on the uh the tube tester I'm gonna power everything off we'll get to some real hardware here we're gonna have fun even if if we can't get this thing to work because that's that's the unfortunate truth or reality when it comes to shipping damage it's that it could be a number of things that get broken or things that you you know you can't it's very difficult to find oh there's always a risk of me getting shocked you know there's a risk of the crt getting shocked there's a risk of everybody getting shocked so we're gonna uh we're gonna pull out the uh tube analyzer there go my helping hands thank goodness I didn't need them again out now the interesting thing about the my tube analyzers I have to go in here and match I have to match uh and this stuff doesn't matter I don't even need to turn it on for this analysis what I have to do is I have to poke on to all the uh whoo look at that thing I have to poke on to the proper points of this tube so we might need to go in no I don't own one from Japan I wish I did we're gonna need to go here let's let's let's go over here for sir um I'm gonna try to find the service manual for the for the 14.05 and I mean I know this isn't the 14.05 but or the same one but it is the let's see I should have the same neck board pin out so if I there guys I'll switch over to my dashboard here I'm waiting for this manual to load up I'm not sure why it's taking so long sometimes archive or don't work I guess it's just too many things on it all right the 14.05 let's see uh we need to we need to check the neck board here what I'd really like to see is if the neckboard on this will show me any more than that showed me because I have I don't have an exact adapter for the l5 I have to go by the circuit board and I have to manually clip to every every pin on the tube oh I don't see any sir where's the dial going circuit board diagram oh it's not in here is it sorry I know I'm just scrolling down this service manual but they're usually our circuit board pictures in here oh there we go maybe there's some flowchart flowchart flowchart where's the circuit board pictures there we go okay that's our input board that's a daughter card that's some other boards all right let's see what board is this is the c so we got to find that there's the c board I think now that's a b1 and there it is there she is so if we go in here so I have to individually connect each one of these but none of them here's the problem none of these pins are marked with what color they are so I don't know shit that's disappointing wait no right hot dog let's god bless sony if I had a 14m for you I could figure this out because they mark their tubes you see there's no the damn tube numbers under that what I'm looking for is is the tube pin out so maybe like yeah I don't I don't see that there would actually be a pin out I'll list it anywhere for this without I don't know that off the top of my head man I'm looking so I'm sorry hey Keith I'm looking for the damn pin out for this tube that's in these it's the it's a l5 tube I'm looking for the pin out so I can hook up my tube tester adapter to it so I need to know what each color is the gh1 h2 g1 g2 which h is just on the same circuit so that doesn't matter but the any g1 g2 green blue red google maps I've been trying to google I've been trying to google yeah I'm not really finding it and I know that I'm going to just hit myself in the head because if I uh I wonder if I go into the sony pvm 14m for no that's not the same tube is it I don't know I'm so I'm I'm wondering if maybe a bvm 14 f may have the same tube in it f uh let's try that and see we're gonna we're gonna pull up that manual side by side and uh let me see thanks bellman let's see if we can't pull up this other manual and we'll go to the I'm gonna scroll down to the circuit boards on there and while I do that you can see my friend Cole is still down here this is ridiculous like why is the internet archive so slow today they've been under it they've been attacked it's like um sometimes you just can't get these manuals to pull up so I'm sleeping through this here's what I'm looking through just in case you want to know is um this manual to try to find again the service sheet to see what that neckboard shows us look at this part on the bvm there contact your local search yes I've worded you did I does this let me ask you sony does does uh using a crt rejuvenator voids your crt warranty oh thank you that's not it no that's the gboard bc board I'm about to go ballistic because there needs to be a better place to have all this info I should I shouldn't have to like dig 20 minutes to find the damn 1405 pen out for the tube because this is going to prevent me from being able to do this today because I'm running out of freaking time is this it that's the pa board nope god this is a pain in the ass to look for yeah well thank you ups you've ruined everybody's day so yeah I'm not going to sit here and just try to hunt through this crap if um discord dms okay let's see if uh keys got something for me let's see let's see what keys got for me on discord ah cool so this is this is my pin out oh my gosh where'd you get this here this one I'm supposed to be looking at oh okay good oh thanks I don't feel stupid thanks Keith all right so with Keith's help we may be able to get this plugged up so is that inverted that picture is that inverted h1 and h2 are on a loop so I know that that should be continuity what did I do to my back I've been working out so hard man I hurt my back team effort that's the good thing about everybody here is like see we're helping each other conquer conquer things so this should be like these two or these two so I believe those are the heater pens because they're shouldn't now am I wrong shouldn't the heater pens be shorted right Keith is that right and then uh the h1 h2 and then the g1 wait a second here why are there like so many g's on this g13 g2 g12 g11 damn Keith I'm I'm confused yeah that's what I thought the h h's are on the same circuit right so see even like right there probably shows that they're on the same circuit and they won't but nothing else should be on the same uh or it's shorted I'm looking at these and these are all basically the same right g1 minus two over here g2 minus two over to this g2 only thing that's g2 that's minus no that's not even a g okay but g4 two right well that's focus one and focus two focus one and focus two let's get this so fun if I'm that's so g11 would be the very first one g11 is the very first one then you have h1 because the focus pods are at the bottom damn this is confusing I don't understand why this has got to be such a pain in the neck but it it's definitely not easy it's not easy I mean I think that's right I think that it's inverted I know that's the h is I just don't uh I just don't know that it would make any sense for it to be flipped the other way but I mean there's really not much hope for this tube anyway there's g1 h2 so it's not going to do anything if I haven't hooked up wrong it's just the the sensor won't work right it's like it's not going to I'm not actually sending anything in there to blow it up g2 red green blue h1 there we go so there we go we've got uh I'm hooking them up now I know you can't really see let me show you see I'm hooking these probes up so each pin I've got g1 h1 h2 and then there's g12 and then there's color blue but I don't want to hook up to g12 I want to hook up to g2 which is after color blue because if I look over here at the dashboard this is where I'm at I've hooked up g1 h1 and h2 and then I'm skipping g1-2 and I'm going color blue and then it says I'm going g2 after color blue so that's where I need to put my g2 and I got blue green and red and that's the only left you got blue there so let's get the g2 on I hope this is right I think we're good I mean he told me that we're just testing it we're not going to zap it yet or anything so there's the g2 now we're going to go color green color green g1 and then color red so we're going to go color green skip one and then red and that's it folks let's see uh let me show you see all those probes right there they're all just connected to a single which we've used the guide here to get to god bless unless that's that wouldn't make any sense right why the hell is that inverted because it's like the bottom of the you know it's like the board's upside down on the picture and it's confusing me so this has been calibrated i'm gonna set everything back right good good good here she is your friend and mine your friend and mine lovely bk467 let's get this hooked up and get an analysis here all right so i've got this i just hooked up this plug it in and i just want to say folks let's all give this uh wonderful pvm 14.05 our best today until it thank you for donating itself in the name of science until whatever end this may have and in that vein there goes the g g1 plug that's nice huh don't worry we're turned off on here so i can plug that in and get my g1 back i want my g1 back baby back baby back baby back baby back all right let's get some barbecue sauce on these ribs get this juice fired up this little monstrosity so let me see if i can get a good view or maybe i can get all this in the same picture for you folks let me move my my multimeter and let's see if i let's see about setting this right here so you can get a good view of what what we'll be looking for here look at that you can see everything now just get the test this is just a test we're running i just have to set up my bk here so the monitor is obviously not plugged in there's nothing plugged into the monitor okay it's not turned on anything like that it's just poked up to the tube so the first thing we want to do is is this is going to run at 6.3 volts so we need to set that um for our heater voltage and then we can set up our g1 voltage over here to 50 and so the first thing i'm going to do is i'm going to turn this from off mine isn't such bad shape to set up and just smoothing this you see how it swings this see how this goes up and down i need to set that to 6.3 and then this one over here i can set to 50 whoops that's the wrong knob set the g1 and as i turn that to the right that goes up we'll just hit 50 on there right there okay and then now this is the part where i have if i haven't wired wrong this should just not work i think and that's the set to cut off which is the next section so you set cut off you go to set cut off and then you need to set each one of these individually to the number one and it's actually working so we've got it set up right so there's a zero on this scale you set that up to the number one same thing on the green see how i move that it goes up or same thing on the blue up and down oh look at that one you see how that one just went up what on earth is happening over there let's let that settle you see how that cut off jumped all the way up like that on that red you probably can't see it because it's it's going to be difficult to see but that's i've got each of them cut i might let it sit there for a second just to make sure everything's balanced out and uh man i wish i could really zoom in on this but it's going to be hard if i end up zapping this thing it won't be today i don't think we'll we'll come back i'll clean this tube up and i'll record that if i need to so there we go everything set here to run this test and what we should just be able to do now is click this thing over to test and it should just give me the levels of each color and and how how much it's it's actually working or not and the only one that was showing up as any good was the green so maybe i don't have it hooked up right but we're definitely not like running the other tests but the others are way bad way bad and green so i don't know that that's interesting that either tells me that the other two guns are basically bad there's no shorts right so when i have it in test if there were shorts all these shorts would be lights would be going off so let's go back to setup again this keeps this stuff keeps drifting it makes me wonder if these blues if i've got these blues and right reds right or the blue and red on the right on the right thing or if they're on another we'll try one more time set the cutoff run the test nothing all right so this will be a great oh maybe the g ones are for each cathode so that means damn okay okay so let's let's test that theory if that's the case then i should be able to just shut this off keith has a good point this might each g one on this you may have to test them each to visually may have to test them all individually so like the g one i used goes in the middle though and it should be connected to all the colors unless there's a short anyway let's try the cut let's switch g one from g one one to g one one two seven so g one i'm moving that from here to seven which is in between blue seven is in between blue and h two and that's i've got that on the right pin okay yeah i mean it can't hurt it i don't think i mean this thing is already in a bad enough shape right and so let's see what happens all right now i've got it moved over and we're going to return this on and just do everything all over again um this shouldn't need to change no it's all good set the cutoff again and look at that time yeah that's way up there try to set each cutoff right at the and last time we got a reading on green so maybe keith's on the right track if we get a reading on blue or red hey koala good timing we're just trying to test your tube how funny is that this is his his crt well let's just see if we get any different results here oh keith you're a freaking genius look at that this time we got the blue this time we got the blue tested now the other ones aren't testing so let me go back to set the cut off make sure that's all the way down yep and then the blue all right finally let's move it to red so let's move our g1 probe g1 probe to red which is pin 11 which is between green and red as i see it right there i'm going to shut down the machine again let me move g1 to the pin between blue and red or i mean green and red right g3 is between green and red which is green and orange on my coakers that's the pin right there all right so let's see if we can get a result over on this one that's let's see if we get a result on this one it's either that or i'm doing this insanely wrong and it's just magically giving me a reading everything's good set cut off values let's drop these guys down and we're hoping to get a reading on red this time theoretically theoretically right these are individual grounds i guess for each one of these lines all right here we go let's see what it says oh yes we found it look at that i knew the red was no good on this tube too the red is super weak we saw it even if the color purity was balanced the red's weak and check that out pretest set cut off look how bad it is the red is really bad on this tube it's not that it's it's not i knew it had a lot of hours just from the way it looked but look how bad that red is that's why the colors overall never looks good so that is what's causing this uh the tube's definitely not good i mean the tube definitely has a bad bad bad red cathode in there and that needs to be clean so you could rejuvenate this or restore it with this but i'm not going to do that right now i'm not going to do that right now because that would just be too climactic and i'm not ready to really do that yet so we'll save that for an upcoming uh adventure it's it says it's not a short there's no shorts being red i mean being red i mean there's no shorts on the analyzer see let me show you that's what Keith is asking if there was a short when i run this test one of these were wide up there's these little bulbs in here and it would say like short short leakage you would have leakage on one of these red green or blue if i had leakage this one would be blinking or it'd be solid but there are no shorts so there's a possibility to like rejuvenate this but i'm not going to just do that right now because it's been such a crazy day i don't want to mess and i don't want to mess it up and make a mistake i want to make sure i do it all right so i'll have all those directions ready for next time red dead redemption next stream i like it stuff for stuff for you might have just gotten uh gotten to name the next stream on uh after the weekend on monday so we'll see that's but that was a lot of fun i know that we didn't actually fix it this time but that's okay like we didn't yeah it's ups they're the one who had who caused the fault they're the fault here i love you guys i love you all so much thank you for hanging out with me today on my wonderful 16th anniversary i'm going to go have some fun this evening also my lovely amazing jmu dukes are six and oh and the rank number 26 in the nation that's last last you're the odd man out right 26 and a 25 so they play tonight at marshal at 7 p.m so i'm excited to watch that hopefully they'll kick it to 7 and i'll be happy after a nice weekend and so will you we'll get back together next monday thank you again if you come in late i'd really highly recommend you go back and watch this show um especially from that 20 minute point on where we did all the diagnosis and things on this crazy set and uh i think it's it's all a great learning experience i love anytime i get to check out and use this uh oh we turn it off now the crt tester it's a lot of fun it's always great to verify that it actually works and it works on trinitrons and tests them and yeah if you want to follow on twitter absolutely thank you belmont i do a lot of stuff i post there daily pretty much so if you want more you can find out behind the scene stuff really there but that's it for today's show i really appreciate you all for showing up i will see a lot of you guys monday or everybody monday if you want to come and be back with me i was going to try to do a special stream but it will be a late night stream if possible tomorrow night i'm not promising anything yet but if it is if it does happen it's going to be very special i will tell you that much and if it doesn't happen i'm going to reschedule for another night because it's just so much going on this weekend for me thanks again folks i'll see you monday you'll have a wonderful weekend and go see if you can find any crt's in the garbage right go do it see what you can find and then we can talk about it on monday if i find one i'll definitely let you