 Calling to order the meeting of the Allington Select Board for Monday, May 10th, 2021. As a preliminary matter, this is Select Board Chair, Steve DeCorsi. Permit me to confirm that all members and persons anticipated on the agenda are present and can hear me. Members, when I call your name, please respond in the affirmative. Diane Mahan. Yes, thank you. John Hurd. Yes. Len Diggins. Yes. Eric Helmuth. Yes. Staff, when I call your name, please respond in the affirmative. Adam Chapelein. Yes. Doug Heim. Yes. And Board Administrator Ashley Myers participating remotely. Tonight's meeting of the Allington Select Board is being conducted remotely, consistent with Governor Baker's executive order of March 12th, 2020, which encourages and allows open meetings of state agencies and local governments to be conducted remotely in order to mitigate transmission of COVID-19 virus. The governor's order, which you can find posted with agenda materials on the town website for this meeting, allows public bodies to meet entirely remotely so long as reasonable public access is afforded so that the public can follow along with the deliberations of the meeting. Before we begin, permit me to offer a few notes. First, this meeting is being conducted via Zoom, is being recorded, and is also being simultaneously broadcast on ACMI. Persons wishing to join the meeting by Zoom may find information on how to do so on the town's website. Persons participating by Zoom are reminded that they may be visible to others and that if you wish to participate, you are asked to provide your full name in the interest of developing a record of the meeting. And further, all participants are advised that people may be listening who do not provide comment and those persons are not required to identify themselves. Both Zoom participants and persons watching on ACMI can follow the posted agenda materials also found on the town's website using the Novus agenda platform. Finally, each vote tonight will be taken by roll call. I'll now turn to the first item on the agenda, which is the consent agenda. Item two this evening is a request for a contractor drain layer license, asphalt services, INC, Rebecca Cattino. Is the applicant here, Mr. Shafteline? There's no Rebecca Cattino, no. Okay, all right, I'll move to the board. Mr. Diggins. I move approval. Great, Mr. Helmuth. I'll second that, no comments. Okay, Mrs. Mahan, any questions or comments? No questions, thank you. Okay, Mr. Hurd. No comments. Okay, thank you. So an emotion made by Mr. Diggins, seconded by Mr. Helmuth, attorney Heim. Mr. Hurd. Yes. Mr. Diggins. Yes. Mr. Helmuth. Yes. Mrs. Mahan. Yes. Mr. DeCorsi. Yes. Janet is both. Great, thank you very much. Item number three, appointments, scholarship fund review committee, and more for a term to expire 131-2024. Is Ms. Moore with us? She is, I'm promoting her right now, Mr. Diggins. Hi, Ms. Moore. I'm here. Sorry. Great, thank you for joining us. I'm wondering if you could tell us a little about yourself and why you're interested in serving on the committee. Absolutely. So my profession, I work at Tufts University and I'm a fellowship advisor. So I help current undergraduates apply for nationally competitive awards. And I'm on the board of the National Association of Fellowship Advisors. So that's why I'm interested in doing this. I'm really interested in sort of how decisions are made about how scholarships are allotted to young people, a lot of issues around access and language and things like that. So I'm excited to be involved with this. I also am an Arlington parent. I have a five-year-old and a nine-year-old who is currently enrolled at Thompson School. Great. Thank you very much. I'm now gonna turn it to the board for questions to Helmut. Thank you. Thanks very much for your interest in being one to serve. I noticed on your resume that part of your past duties for three years was diversity outreach coordinator, which is wonderful. And not to spring in on you, it's okay if you haven't thought about it in this context, but do you have any sense for how you might, how that diversity inclusion might inform your work on this committee? Yeah, I mean, I guess, you know, part of it depends on what the current process is like, right? But I would say based on the work I've done at Tufts and the guidelines of the, you know, National Organization that I've participated, I think one of the big things would be conducting direct outreach among underrepresented communities, right? And so trying to meet students where they are, right? And so rather than just advertising the, you know, maybe putting out more ads in the same places, for instance, and thinking of that as a more effective kind of outreach, we might instead go to like the, like the Black Student Union at the high school. And I, you know, someone could go there directly and kind of talk about what the scholarships are, what they're looking for, things like that. That's terrific, thank you. I forgot the most important magic word, which is that I move approval, Mr. Chair. All right. And thank you again for that thoughtful response and for your willingness to serve. We would be very fortunate to have you serve. I'd be really excited to hear about it. All right, thank you, Mr. Helmets. Mrs. Mahan. Well, wholeheartedly endorse the second, Mr. Helmets, my colleagues vote for approval. And I want to thank Ms. Moore for volunteering her time. And I kind of want to highlight one thing that my colleague has as well as really put in a big ask that may not be part of this appointment that we're appointing you to. I, similar to, I saw that under the Tufts Counseling Center tutoring at residents and special needs students, in my, I have a personal family relationship with this. And I see especially special needs students, whatever you can bring to the high functioning special needs which will be identified. I know you're more than qualified to do that. And I'm gonna put one more thought before you and if you can speak on that and or the other, the other, which is really not a part of, I think this appointment, but I advocate for it whenever I can. Regarding special needs students, the non-high functioning special needs students, when they hit the age of 22, there's really nothing for their parents. And I'm thinking of a severely autistic, non-verbal 22 year old. Once you hit that 22, unless you put them in residential, there's really nothing out there. And I don't know that this is something that you can advocate for come out with ideas, but my two questions I would pose to you are definitely an emphasis on the high functioning special needs students, not just at Allington High School, but through our lab collaborative, which means they're in Lexington, Allington, Belmont, Bedford, and I forget Burlington for the high functioning. But I don't know if you have any thoughts on the lower function. I do actually. So it's funny, it's not, I don't know if I included it on my resume or not because it's from a really long time ago, but when I was in my 20s, so roughly 8,000 years ago, I worked at a high school in Vermont and worked taught life skills to students with special needs really across the board. So I did some specialized tutoring with a more high functioning students. And that's where I was like helping him with this senior project. And then I took students to job placements and I actually worked one-on-one with a former student of mine in the community. So I have a lot of experience with students across the board. Honestly, I'm not super familiar. I lived in Vermont then. So I'm not super familiar with what the services are, but I am familiar with the shape or what really effective services can look like. And so I'd be really excited about sort of thinking about what that could look like for our town based on the offering from Howard Community Services, which is in Burlington, Vermont, which is an incredible organization where I worked for probably about five years as an aide. Yeah, so I mean, that's my first thought. Yeah, that's it. No, I just wanted to, it's really not part of your position on the scholarship committee, but I kind of wanted to highlight to you, I do it all the time. You can ask my colleagues anything that I can tie into this. Yeah, the severe special need young adult, once they hit 22, the services pretty much go away. So if you can kind of have that extra hat on, if you do see something, if you can either through this committee or something else forward it on. So thank you, Ms. Moore, I appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Hey, thank you, Mrs. Mohan, Mr. Heard. Thank you. And thank you for your willingness to serve on this committee. You're obviously very well qualified. I think I missed you by about a year at Tufts. I got a command in 05, but I wasn't really in the running for any high ranking academic scholarships, but I certainly appreciate the work you do there. So I just have one question similar to a question that I asked an applicant a couple of weeks back is if the Middlebury Tigers are playing the Tufts Jumbos, who do you root for? I assume the Jumbos at this point. It's the Panthers, actually, but I would root for the Jumbos. I like to think about a friend of mine said once that the way she decided where to go to graduate school was to imagine the mascots fighting. And I like to imagine jumbo trampling the Panther. So that's sort of where my thoughts go, it seems relevant. That works for me. Great. I've often had to answer that question because people don't think an elephant is the most fierce mascot. But if you ever saw a picture of jumbo, the elephant people would understand. Yeah. Appreciate it. Thank you for serving. Thank you, Mr. Hurd. Mr. Diggins. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thanks for willing to serve as a physician. And I have to say, I'm really impressed because I have no idea of what your dissertation was about. I mean, it's like, I read it as like, I have no idea. So I'm fascinated from the point of view. Although when I read your publications, I get the sense now that Fanish is associated with fandom, which now gives me some hints. It makes me even more, more impressed. And I love you. I'm happy to talk to you at great length about it at any time. Oh, I mean, I love it when people expand my horizons. I mean, I think you could do that. So the look, I mean, after town meeting, it might just take you up on it. Actually, even during town meeting, it might take you up on it. Don't tell anyone that, all right? So welcome aboard. Thank you. Great. Thank you, Mr. Diggins. And thank you again, Ms. Malored. You have a very impressive resume. And we really appreciate your willingness to serve on the committee. So with a motion by Mr. Helmuth, seconded by Mrs. Mahan, attorney Hine. Mr. Herd. Yes. Ms. Diggins. Yes. Mr. Helmuth. Yes. Mrs. Mahan. Yes. Mr. DeCoursey. Yes. It's unanimous vote. Great. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Really look forward to it. OK. Item four, now on to licenses and permits for approval, a change of ownership, a common biddler's license, D'Agostino's food store, Samuel Peter D'Agostino. Is Mr. D'Agostino with us? Mr. Chair, I don't see his name right now. OK. All right. Well, we can move right to a vote then. Mr. Herd. Move approval. Mr. Diggins. Sorry, I was just waiting. Maybe my vote happened to my audio. I'll second that, Mr. Chair. OK, great. Great. Thank you. I'm Mr. Helmuth. Any questions, comments? OK. This is Mahan. Just one comment. And I did text Mr. D'Agostino to see if we would be joining in tonight. It was just a housekeeping meeting. Housekeeping matter, I'm assuming my colleagues will accept this as a friendly housekeeping under days and hours of operation. It's listed 7 a.m. to 9 p.m. It doesn't say the days. I'm assuming they're going to keep it the same as it is right now, which is Monday through Sunday. And if we could just make that housekeeping change administratively. Thank you. Great. Thank you very much. OK. Well, that's it with a motion by Mr. Herd, seconded by Mr. Diggins, attorney Hyme. Mr. Herd. Yes. Mr. Diggins. Yes. Mr. Helmuth. Yes. Mrs. Mahan. Yes. Mr. D'Corsi. Yes. So you have this vote. Thank you. Item 5, Approval, Common Vitalers License, the Heights Pub, 1314 Mass Ave. James O'Rourke. Is Mr. O'Rourke with us? Mr. O'Rourke and I believe his attorney are here. So I'll promote the two of them. OK, great. Great. Oh, good evening. Thank you for joining us tonight for approval of the license. I'm going to open it up right away to members of the board. I think people have seen the application and the materials there. So I'll start with Mrs. Mahan. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thank you to the applicants. I know there was a bumpy road in the beginning, which is not something I certainly was very happy with. And I think there were outside forces to that. But putting that aside, I have looked over the application, which I'm definitely amenable to. But the only thing that is not in is someone asked me a question. I'm sorry. No. OK, sorry. My internet must be great. In terms of the hours of operation uniformly or traditionally what we've done in Arlington is 11 o'clock is the closing, with the exception of special circumstances, which to date have been New Year's Eve. Establishments come in and ask for an extension beyond that. And they also submit a plan in terms of when food will be served and or when alcoholic beverages will no longer be served. I'm just stating my personal opinion. I'm in support of this application, but I am not in support of. And I'd like to hear from my colleagues, Wednesday through Saturday, staying open to midnight. And the reason I say that is no other establishment has done that, as well as in terms of the increased patrol. I'm hearing feedback. Someone turned on that maybe has something going on. I'd like to keep it uniform or what we do with the rest of the town, unless it's New Year's Eve or something else. I would ask the applicant and my colleagues to consider keeping the 11 AM to 11 PM Sunday through Saturday and not grant the Wednesday through Saturday, 11 AM to midnight, especially since right over the Allington Heights pub, including across the street, as well as further off our residences. I'm sure we'll be getting calls from if they hear activity going on after midnight. So thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mrs. Mohan. Before I turn to Mr. Herd on that, and Mr. O'Rourke or the Attorney Bettencourt, if you want to respond to that, I know the pub in Winchester, they may allow longer hours. But what Mrs. Mohan said has been consistent across the board in terms of the hours locally. Thank you very much, Mike Bettencourt, on behalf of Jim O'Rourke. We haven't discussed the hours yet, but I imagine that we're both amenable to anything that is the request of the select board in the town. So whatever works best for Arlington works best for us. OK, thank you very much, Mr. Herd. Yeah, I would ask Attorney Hyme, is there any restriction on what hours we can grant? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, go right ahead. Thank you, Mr. Chair. So a section 12 license can be limited to 11 PM. That's generally what's been the guiding legal principle behind this. You can't limit it more than that, but 11 PM is the earliest you can limit a section 12 license. So I believe that's been the biggest for what we've done. Through the chair, back to Attorney Hyme, but the question, I guess, was, is there a reason we cannot grant it to? There's a reason. I'm sorry. Sorry, there was an authority to grant it. Yeah, you have the discretion. I'm sorry. Sorry. Mr. Corsi, Matt. Sure. Yeah, go right ahead, Attorney Hyme. Yeah, you have the discretion, although it should be noted in your policy. You have a hard cap at midnight for any establishment. And you also have a last call of half an hour before close. So realistically speaking, you're both, according to state law and state policy, your 11 PM is pretty consistent within your authority in terms of limitations. OK. Yeah, I know it's certainly been our policy. So I'll respect whatever the wishes of the boards are. I don't have strong feelings to 11 PM if the business thinks that they can be busy. And there's certainly, I'm sure, noise restrictions that would apply to the business outside of the hours of operation as far as music or people being allowed within the establishment. But I will turn to the board for further comments. OK. Thank you, Mr. Heard. Mr. Diggins. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And through you, Mr. Chair, I like to request that Mr. Rourke, mute his microphone, because I think that's what's causing some ambient, interrupted noise. Thank you. Thank you very much. So actually, I'm sure that I'm muted. But my mind is full. Did we just lost yours? Yeah. All right, yeah, it's funny. I got the signal that I was muted and my microphone stayed on. Anyways, I understand where my colleague, Mr. Heard, is coming from. And I think if we want to. We just lost you again, Mr. Diggins. I'm sorry. Sorry about that. If we want to evaluate how we treat all the businesses in town, then I'm all up for doing that. And I think since this is going to be the first business of its kind, perhaps, in the height scene, I think it is maybe good to ease into it, because it isn't so much, I think, mean what's going on in the pub at a certain hour, as much as it is what happens when people exit. I mean, they all tend to exit at once. And sometimes they don't go home right away. And so I would suggest that we just see how people behave. And then if it seems like it's going smoothly and the neighborhood adapts to it, we can explore and extend in those hours. But the main reason is to just treat all the businesses the same initially, and then to repeat, we want to explore changing things for everyone. I'm all up for that. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Diggins. And Mrs. Mahan made a motion. Would you care to second that motion? Yes, thank you. I'm sorry. I would be happy to second it. OK, great. Thank you very much. Mr. Helmlet. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think, similar to Mr. Heard, I don't have strong feelings about the 11 versus 12. But I certainly see the point of precedent and caution that my colleagues and Mr. Diggins have raised. I just want to verify with the applicants, though, that if I understand correctly, that if we do restrict this to 11 PM, that that will not, in your view, create problems with the business plan or viability. Thank you, Mr. Helmlet. I will say that, for the nature of the business, Friday and Saturday night, especially, it really would impact sales. And I think it would be difficult for us. But if it were extended Friday and Saturday to midnight, I think that would go a long way in making sure that this business, starting off in a very difficult economic climate, would have some legs and it would work out well. Thank you. Yeah, I think that's what I'm trying to balance. It's exactly that point. And also, I mean, the town's interest is in economic development and the Heights Business District is one that we've put a lot of work into, cultivating. Mr. Chair, I wonder if, through you, the town manager might have any insight via the planning department about resident views on this type of business and vis-a-vis some of the hours and potential noise concerns. I don't know if we've done any in a study that we've done with the Heights Business District or if any of my other colleagues would know. If that provides us any insight at all into their views about this. Mr. Chaplain. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Helmuth, I know there has been some surveying done of what's desired for uses in the Heights. And I think that was actually a survey that talked about there being a desire for a pub that I've heard in prior conversations, the applicant talk about being a reason that led them to the Heights. I can't recall that there was this specificity of times of service. I could take a look at it. I don't know that I could find it while the board's deliberating, but I don't recall that level of specificity. And if I may, Mr. Chair, as a follow-up, are you aware of any people writing in or contacting your officer or the town or the board, out of concern about a pub that might go to midnight or late hours in general? I don't, I can't recall receiving concern about a pub in general and not specifically about midnight. And finally, and this is just, if you'll just, Mr. Chair, just indulge my newness. Procedurally speaking, what would be involved in starting with a restriction to 11 but extending it to 12? What kind of steps would the applicant need to take and we would need to take to do that? Is that a big deal, little deal, something in between? If I could refer to that to a turning high. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Basically, they'd have to put in an application to amend the terms of their license. So, locally, not a big deal here. I'm not sure what amount of work that takes with respect to the state level, tends to be a parallel process with respect to the ABCC, but locally, not particularly difficult. Yeah, so I'm actually curious about what my Mr. D'Corsi thinks. As you can tell, I'm really juggling these two concerns of wanting to give this business a good chance, wanting to give, I'm aware of the town managers report. Many of my neighbors have been very interested in this business wanting to succeed. At the same time, I wanna make sure we don't make a mistake by making an exception so I'm open to either one, but I will confess that I'm a little bit torn, so I'm not sure where I'm at with that right now. Thank you. All right, well, we may take this around for another lap, then I feel certainly Wednesday and Thursday, I have issues with being open past 11. I think one of the questions is up the heights. There really hasn't been anything up there so we don't really have any experience. I do know other pubs or restaurants in town. We have limited to 11 with the extent of the new years, as Mrs. Mahan said. So I almost lean towards 11 for now with an invitation to come back to us after a few months for Friday and Saturdays beyond 11, but that's one of, if other members have thoughts on that, why don't we discuss that? I'll just go around again to Mrs. Mahan. Thank you, Mr. Dacorsi. Again, I'd like to have uniformity across town and recognize that there are residences, not typical to town tavern, monotony grill, not your average Joe's. They do not have residences directly over and across the street from an establishment. This establishment does. And I'd also like to move forward cautiously, taking into account the history that Yollington Heights Pub has had with the town of Yollington which has not been as smooth for outside reasons which I think should not have factored in. So in terms of a trust level, I would not want to take, I'd like this business to operate as the other businesses have who do not have residences directly over them and across from them, stay at 11 p.m. And then if this establishment or any of the other establishments that I mentioned and did not mention wanna come in the future and go to 12 and then we can have also a report from police and fire in terms of what's, their opinion is in terms of the patrol efforts that they need to have in place, common grounds, another area which does not have residents around this. So I think this is not the test case. And I think I heard in the beginning that they were amenable to going to the 11 p.m. So I'm pretty firm in, I think people are getting a sense that I don't feel like for myself personally, this establishment started off on the best foot with the town of Wellington. That's my personal opinion. I think there were outside issues that should not have played into it and it did, but I'm putting that all aside and I wanna treat them the same as we have other pubs, taverns, et cetera that we have in town. So I'm very adamant that no to midnight right now, let's go to 11 p.m. And then if they come back or any other establishment with a business plan that shows that there is the clientele that can carry them into midnight and we can balance it with what the community policing effort needs to support that. But I'm standing by my original motion which is approving Sunday through Saturday, 11 a.m. to 11 p.m. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Okay, thank you Mrs. Mohan, Mr. Heard. Thank you. And I should, we've been talking about the timing. I did wanna say at the beginning that I am very excited about this. I do live in the Heights and a lot of my neighbors and people that are around are really excited for this to open up and fill a void in the neighborhood and up in the Heights district. So I mean, again, I'm fine approving at 11 a.m. for uniformity, but I think what we should do is have kind of a global discussion about the 11 a.m. cut off for all of our businesses in our particular just this one and just see if that still makes sense and if we wanna approve businesses to be open later on a case-by-case basis because there's certainly some of these businesses are competing with establishments in neighboring towns that are open until one or two at night which we certainly, we're not interested in that type of business but I would say I don't wanna invite the public too much into my own personal business but I have friends and we have kids and we get tired and our kids go to bed at nine o'clock and by the time we get out it's 9.15 and sometimes it's 9.30 and we go down to one of the taverns in Arlington and it's 9.30 and you're there for an hour. So I think there is, you could serve a need in Arlington if it was open a little later on the weekends but again, I'm happy to keep uniformity with the other establishments in town and approve this but I think we should have a more global discussion about how we treat the restaurants in town and whether or not it makes sense on weekends to have a midnight end time for some of the businesses. Okay, all right, thank you, Mr. Heard. Mr. Diggins, any further comments? Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chair. So I like your proposal, Mr. Chair. I think regardless of how we vote tonight we should explore the possibility of extending hours town-wide and I will say even though it doesn't serve alcohol or anything out here in the east, we have an ice cream shop that is open until two o'clock in the morning or something like that but anyways, people are out and about at that ice cream shop especially in the summertime when the windows are open and you hear them but you know what, I mean, I love living in Arlington I love being in an urban, quasi-urban environment and for me that's just part of the price that I pay for being in an area that has lots of people and so my point is that I'm not averse to it I just want some uniformity so because it just helps in the process of making what we do seem equitable mean to all parties. That's it, thank you. Okay, thank you, Mr. Diggins on the helmet. Any further comments? Thank you, yeah, I think that's persuasive the uniformity and fairness argument I think does make a lot of sense. You know, I want to echo Mr. Hirst's comments that I think that we do need to try to be forward thinking but while being appropriately cautious Mohan's cautions are well taken. But so I'm okay with starting at 11 p.m. but I like Mr. Diggins' idea of inviting the applicant to stay to keep the conversation going with us and maybe the board can contemplate you know, supporting the businesses, supporting the economy, serving residents if later hours across the board would be something that could be done in a responsible way, I'd like to look at that. Okay, great, thank you, Mr. Helmuth. So I think we've reached consensus. I do want to say, Mr. O'Rourke, I wish you the best of luck with the new business. It is long anticipated in the Heights and I wish you the best of luck with the business once you get it underway, assuming we have a positive vote here, which I think we will. So we have a motion by Mrs. Mohan, a second by Mr. Diggins, Attorney Heim. Mr. Hurd. Yes. Mr. Diggins. Yes. Mr. Helmuth. Yes. Mrs. Mohan. Yes, and then I just want to clarify my motion is that my colleagues are voting for a Sunday through Saturday, 11 a.m. to 11 p.m. Yes, thank you. And Mr. Quicks. Yes. To unanimous vote. Great, okay, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much. Okay, item six for approval, Wellington Farmers Market 2021, Patsy Kramer. Is she here with us tonight or? She is, I think. Okay, good. And Mr. Chair, Sam DiAgostino has joined us if you care to have him speak to the board, but if not, that's okay as well, just. Well, I'll tell you what, I mean, I'll leave it open, Tammy. I don't know if he's aware, but we've already voted it, but if he wanted to address the board, I certainly could allow him to do that for a minute or so. I can't, why don't you promote him? Yeah, I can't communicate him with him. No, of course I, why don't you promote him and we'll tell him we took the vote if he wants to address the board, we can do that for a minute or so. Okay, thank you. I'll see you. Mr. DiAgostino, Mr. DiAgostino, can you hear us? Yes, hi, I'm sorry. Hi guys, I'm sorry about that. Oh, no problem. So the good news is congratulations, we approved the transfer of the license, but since you came on, if you wanted to address the board shortly, we're doing this a little out of order, but we want to give you that opportunity. Yeah, no, thank you, I appreciate it. Hadn't been a part of a meeting like this before. So as long as everything looks good on your end, everything works for me. Okay. And if I could, Mr. Chair, I just want to double check. Yes, Mrs. Mahan, sure. Mr. DiAgostino, I made sort of a housekeeping motion. I want to make sure that this was your intention. For hours of operation, you put 7 a.m. to 9 p.m., but you didn't put the days. So I assumed the days would be, it would be 7 a.m. to 9 p.m., Monday through Saturday, or do you go to 10 p.m.? We go to 9 p.m. Okay, and it's Monday through Sunday, 7 a.m. to 9 p.m. Right, right, correct. Okay, it was a housekeeping thing that I thought you probably wanted. Okay, thank you. Thank you, guys. Great, thank you, Mr. DiAgostino. Okay, thanks. Okay, all right, now Mrs. Kramer's here with us for the farmers market. So it looks like we're gonna have a farmers market this year. There's a request before us. I'll turn it over to Patsy Kramer to tell us a little bit about it. Okay, thank you very much. Last year we did have a successful year, even though the pandemic was just underway, but we got a lot of feedback that people felt comfortable shopping outside and it really worked well. I met last week with Pat Martin from the Board of Health just to begin to get a sense of what the good guidelines would be this year. And both of us at this point are sort of at a loss as to what the state is gonna be recommending for guidelines. And mostly what I'm hearing is they really are telling us to rely primarily on our local Board of Health in terms of the guidelines. So Pat and I certainly will continue to work on that. We're quite sure that we will be requiring people to wear masks if they're at the market and to continue to socially distance. One of the things that will be different this year is that people will be able to pick out their own produce. Last year they had to point to it and then the vendor would put it in a basket and that slowed things up considerably. So I'm hoping that by people being able to pick their own produce and then go for checkout that it'll move things along. But certainly Pat and I will continue to watch for state guidelines and then I will continue to just work closely with the Board of Health in making sure that things run smoothly this year. So we're hoping that you'll be open to us having it again. Great, now thank you very much. I'm gonna turn it over to the board for questions or comments. Mr. Diggins. I move approval, no comments. Great, thank you. Mr. Helmuth. I'll second that gladly and no comments or questions. Thank you. Mrs. Mahan. So look forward to the farmer's market. I can't tell you how many times I've gone down there five, 10 minutes and I'd stay for an hour, hour and a half. And I don't need a necessary answer to this question. I understand that Ms. Kramer Patsy has said that we're gonna encourage people to wear masks. I would just leave it to you and Pat in terms of sort of having an action plan if a situation arises where the mask issue does come into play that maybe before the farmer's market you may have already done this sort of have a conversation with community policing just to see what you can avail yourself of that opportunity and how to de-escalate that. So that's just a comment. Last year I had just one person that challenged me and wanted to walk in without a mask. And I just said to him he had to wear one. And he says who? And I said, you know why this is going on. And he didn't make any further efforts. If somebody really got belligerent I think I wouldn't hesitate to call the police and ask them to come in and just reinforce my authority. I think it's very important to give that message loud and clear. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Patsy. Thank you, Mrs. Mahan, Mr. Heard. Happy to support it. I love having an opportunity to walk over the farmer's market and it's right across my office. I have to put it in my calendar this year because I generally see drive by and see the farmer's market being taken down. I'm like, oh, got it again. But yeah, we got to get you over there earlier, right? Right. So it is certainly great to have that and a real asset to the town. So I appreciate all the work that you do with that. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Heard. Yeah, and I too am excited to see it coming back this year. So looking forward to having it. And thank you for all the work that you're doing on it. So with a motion by Mr. Diggins, second by Mr. Helmuth, Attorney Heim. To Heard. Yes. Mr. Diggins. Yes. Mr. Helmuth. Yes. Mrs. Mahan. Yes. Mr. Dacorsi. Yes. Your name is Fok. Good. Thank you very much. Sure, thank you. Okay. Item seven, a request for a third parking space on street overnight parking at 18 Swan Place. Jessica Scowcroft. Is Mrs. Scowcroft with us tonight, Mr. Chatelins? Yes, would you like me to promote her, Mr. Chair? Yes. Good evening, Ms. Scowcroft. She's, she already on. I think she is. Yeah, she appears to be here. Let me, um... Hello? Hello. Hi, I am here. Good evening. Sorry. Oh, great. Okay, good evening, Ms. Scowcroft. Yeah, I'm wondering if you could provide us a little bit of information on the request and then I will open it to questions from members of the board. Sure. I've been living here for about three years. I live, I have four roommates, so there's five of us in the house. There are four people who... I'm sorry, there are four people who drive. Two of us have passes. One person can afford the municipal lot at the 365 rate a year plus the 50 a month, but I have another person who cannot afford it, who's been greatly affected by the pandemic economically. And yeah, we just, we have five people and we are the, we happen to be the only building on the street that does not have a driveway. It's a two family home and no one has a driveway, so we're kind of at a disadvantage. And, you know, I've been living here for about three years, so I've noticed that at night, when I get home kind of late at night, I work at night and I noticed that there's always several spaces open on the street. So, you know, all those factors made me want to ask for an extra pass if possible. Okay. And before we open up, just for clarification, are one of the passes, have you been issued one of the passes or is it two? I do have one of the passes. Okay, okay. All right. All right, so with that, I'll open it up to the board. Mr. Herd. Thank you for the request. We've dealt with a number of the overnight parking requests over the past few years and what we've tried to really do is have a pretty set bit of criteria when we get the request, just so we have uniformity across the board because overnight parking is certainly an issue that affects a lot of people in town. And one of them you meet is that you don't have a driveway parking, but I am not unless the other members of the board can correct me. I'm not aware of any instance where we've issued two more than one overnight parking permit per unit of the building and where you have two with two permits already. I think it would open up a whole can of worms for us and that we'd have a lot. Next week we have 800 applications if in the instance where we had two per those two units. So I would move no action on the request but then the second half in your letter there were some parking concerns on Swan Place and Mr. Chair if appropriate, I would refer as it similar to correspondence received the second paragraph of Mr. Scowcroft's letter to either TACC or Mr. Chapter Lane, whatever is most appropriate. Yeah, I think that's fine. Mr. Chapter Lane and it may be the parking advisory committee for the referral. I just want to check with that with Mr. Chapter Lane. Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair and thank you, Mr. Herdy. The parking advisory committee actually deliberated on a very similar request on, I think I keep confusing it, Avon Place or Winnemore. Winnemore. A few blocks down. So I think the parking advisory committee could look into Ms. Scowcroft's requests and advise on what might be reasonable or not. I'd just like to clarify something. So there were two family houses, there were two parking passes issued as a standard for both sides of this house. So the two parking passes is normal. I'm just requesting one more, that's all. Okay, yeah, one per unit, right? Is that how it went? Yes, two on each side. Okay, okay. Mrs. Mahan. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I will second Mr. Herd's motion. And as the, I miss Kevin Greerly dearly because he was the senior member of the board and now I am the senior member of the board. We've been uniform in terms of allowing overnight parking in front of the residents, sometimes one family, sometimes two, but not extending it beyond that. The other thing I would notice the person for whom the relief is being sought is not the applicant Ms. Scowcroft, it's for one of her roommates. And if we were to grant this besides the precedent that Mr. Herd spoke to, we would be denying because we already have the maps in front of that residence of two cars parking overnight. And if we extended it, the residents on either side there, which should also have that opportunity would be denied of that. And I understand you have four or five roommates in one part of the two family, but what we've traditionally factored into our deliberations amongst other things is that we do not grant more than two overnight parking requests per unit in the two family. So for all those reasons, I would second Mr. Herd's motion of no action. Thank you. And the other thing I would say, and I'm not being cheeky or sarcastic about this, is if your roommate continues to be a resident of Wellington, we do have a COVID-19 relief fund that he or she could apply to. If the $1 a day, $365 a year parking fee is not doable or too cumbersome for them. Well, it costs about $50 a day for every month. So that comes out to about a grand a year. So that's pretty expensive. It's not $50 a day. So it's $50 a month for the daytime plus the $365 per year. So that equals about almost $1,000 a year for parking. Okay. Usually when a board member speaks, they're not interrupted. So you're telling me you're looking for your fourth roommate to be able to park their car in the parking lot 24 hours a day, seven days a week, day and night because they're not going anywhere. No. No, I'm done with this. This is done. Okay. Okay. No, I'm just going by what you said. You said they're gonna get $50 a day, a ticket, which it's not, it's 15, if you park during the day and you go beyond the two hours. I'm talking about the municipal lot. The municipal lot is $50 a month. So that's 12 months and then $365 a year that comes out to be much more than 365. That's why it's such an expense. No one has any compassion for the fact that we are the only people on the street who do not have a drive for a, you know, you guys did a study. You did it. Okay. Mr. Chair, if I do not have Ms. Skoproff interrupt me. She's asking for an overnight parking for her fourth roommate who is not the proponent here tonight. It's $1 a day for overnight parking. It's not $50 a month. It's anywhere from depending on the year 24 to $31 a month. And she, we have granted her overnight parking. So again, I would second Mr. Herd's motion of no action. Thank you. Okay. Okay. Thank you, Mrs. Mahan. Mr. Helmuth. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I support the motion. Okay. And Mr. Diggins. Sorry about that. I do support the second part of the letter going to the parking advisory committee. You know, just, I think it's worthy of some exploration. So that's it. Thank you very much. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Diggins. Okay. Well, on a motion by Mr. Herd, seconded by Mrs. Mahan, actually two-part motion, Attorney Heim. Mr. Herd. Yes. Mr. Diggins. Yes. Mr. Helmuth. Yes. Mrs. Mahan. Yes. It's just a clarification. The second part of the motion is to refer this somewhere else. It might be. It's a referral to the parking advisory committee. That's the daytime issues with kickstand cafe. Okay. I'm in favor of that. Thank you for the clarification, Mr. Chair. True. Mr. Diggins. Yes. It's unanimous vote. Okay. Thank you, Attorney Heim. Last item tonight is new business, Attorney Heim. No new business. Mr. Chapter Lane. Thank you, Mr. Chair, very briefly. Today, the long-awaited federal guidance on the American Rescue Plan was released. There was an eight-page summary fact sheet, as well as a 150-plus page detailed guidance document. Myself and Sandy Pooler, the deputy town manager, have already started to dive in. And I know the National League of Cities and the Mass Municipal Association will also be analyzing, try to provide us deeper understanding from those guidance documents. But hopefully within the next few days, we will be able to more clearly articulate how we think these funds will be able to be expended to the benefit of Arlington. And I'll certainly share that with the board and the public. Thank you very much. Mr. Helmuth. No new business. Thank you. Mr. Diggins. Briefly. I saw Marika Palca for the first time since December of 2019, when I was getting her advice, whether to run for select board. And it was really great seeing her. I mean, when I saw her, I thought of Yoda. And I love Yoda. It's like Mama Yoda, Keenan. And so it's just formed my heart to see her. And so I just had to share that. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Diggins. Mr. Hurd. The only thing that just popped into my head is just to ask the town manager, if we can get, we had had an agenda item probably a month or so back about the guidance for outdoor performances. And I know we're going to go back and sort of form mesh with the parks and recreation and whatnot. But are we going to be able to put that on a further agenda item to discuss that as we get into May here? Mr. Chair, may I? Certainly. I'll keep it brief. It's I believe what we ended up realizing after working with Parks and Rec is that there were no lands under the jurisdiction of the select board that it actually pertained to. But let me verify that. And if not, we can bring it right back to the board for final approval. All right. Great. Thank you, Mr. Hurd. Mrs. Mohan. Yes, very briefly, because I know we all have to jump over to town meeting. I've gotten a lot of questions, as my colleagues have. I spoke to the chair about this one an hour or two ago. Because of COVID-19, I know we're hopefully getting back to and normal. And right now, August 1 is a date that's out there. But in order to have town day, which we cannot do this year, we need to start booking apps, entertainment, and ancillary services back in January. So people are saying, can we get started? It might be a quick thing and still do it. It's not a matter of previous years. We open in April, close in June, town day applications. That's just for booths. We need to have done stuff starting back in January. So the traditional town day in September cannot happen this year, unfortunately. Not sure if something, some other conversation for, I want to say de-escalated, a mini version of something can happen in September. And maybe it's the road race that we traditionally have and couldn't have last year. We have this year. And then if I could, Mr. Chair, just very briefly, I've gotten a lot of questions on this, as have you and my colleagues. People are asking about when Town Hall is opening. I understand the Governor Baker has indicated August 1st, in terms of that's when we're ready to open. I'd like to ask the town manager, is that date, is August 1st our date in terms of opening Town Hall back to a semi-normal and or if that's our date, if circumstances change, could it possibly be earlier? So I would say the answer to, thank you, Mr. Chair. I would say the answer to both is yes, we're planning towards that date as outlined by the Governor, but if the situation allows it earlier, it's possible. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you, Mr. Town Manager. Okay, thank you, Mrs. Mohan. And just very briefly, Town Meeting is going to extend for a little while. I may schedule a meeting next Monday night because it looks like Town Meeting is going to extend for a while and we'll continue to have shorter meetings. So just keep your eyes out. Notified Board members, if that's the case later this week. With that, I will turn to Mrs. Mohan for a motion to adjourn. I'd like to take a motion that we suspend the Select Board meeting and we reconvene with the opening of Town Meeting May 10th and that the Select Board will remain in session concurrent with Town Meeting and that our adjournment will also be concurrent with the adjournment of the regular Town Meeting of 2021. Do we have a second? Seconded by Mr. Herd. Okay, a motion by Mrs. Mohan, seconded by Mr. Herd, Attorney Heim. Mr. Herd? Yes. Mr. Diggins? Yes. Mr. Helmuth? Yes. Mrs. Mohan? See you all in two minutes. Yes. Yes, two minutes to spare. Thank you everyone for your well.