 Why does it feel like so many Asian-Americans are leaning into the ABG Asian baby girl and the Asian baby boy ABB aka Kevin win look so much right now We are gonna try to answer this question right now. Oh my goodness. I'm telling you every time this topic comes up I just know that it gets a lot of views and there's a lot of magnetism Surrounding the Jennifer Tran Kevin win ABG ABB discussion David, uh, you know, I just got my haircut I got a fade on the sides a little comb over with the pump David you got a red flannel on and Some Jade I don't know dude. There's a little Kevin winning us right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man I can't deny it. Um, we had to talk about this reddit post It was called do Asian-Americans become ABG's and ABB's to fit into the crowd This guy talks about how he was in a frat because his cousin wanted him to join But he wasn't really into it and he noticed that out even some of the quiet nerdy people he did who didn't seem like they fit In with that look became ABG's or ABB's by their second year in the Asian sorority or the Asian fraternities So then they would start going to raves. They would party off and they would just be out doing Kevin win activity in general And this guy said would you guys say that most Asian-Americans try to be ABG's and ABB's just to like fit In these days because I knew people who I did not think we're gonna chase that archetype and they ended up deep in that lane What's going on? All right guys? We're gonna try to answer this question. We got the comment section I have my own reasons on why I think the Kevin win look is so big Please hit that like button and check out other episodes of the hot pot boys But before that, uh, you know, what's one thing that ABG's ABB's will like or even preppy ones We got smaller sauce guys. It's a finishing oil chili oil Check it out smaller sauce.com also check out the Instagram because we have a lot of cool content coming out there Um, of course first off and we have to talk about obviously the ABG thing It came from the 90s the ABB Kevin win thing. I've seen that like pop up in the past like five years It's more of a recent thing, but uh, we've like gone over the history in previous videos We're just more talking about the phenomenon now about how it seems like there's all these different archetypes, right? You can sit at so many different lunch tables in high school, you know You fit in with the jocks you fit in with the nerves But why does it seem like every year the amount of young Asians that chase the ABG or ABB aesthetic Seemingly increases it's a pie slice that is growing year after year in terms of just like usage Yeah, and I I have my quick reasons. I'm gonna tell you right now Why I think so many young Asian dudes are kind of leaning into the Kevin win look first of all I think there's different versions of a Kevin win look. I think there's a Filipino Kevin win look I think there's a more like Southern Chinese Cantonese Kevin win look high beast yellow high beastie. I think the Filipino one is very NBA street wear centric I think there is a Korean version a little bit Kevin Kim Yeah, there's different variations, but we all know they kind of revolve around, you know A similar look and a similar goal a Similar goal is important, but let me talk about why I think so many young guys Even ones that are going to the Ivy leagues now are now taking on a Kevin win look Whether that's the comb over with the fade or the perm on hair and then you got the flannel or the curtain bangs one one They don't have another style that they feel very dear and dedicated to so as in if you're like a very fashionable person And you want to only wear raw Japanese denim or you're a guy who's only in the preppy clothes You're a Hamptons boat shoes type Asian vise. Yeah from that type of family You're saying if you're 10 out of 10 dedicated to one of those archetypes You're not gonna become a Kevin win or you're an art school Asian guy who likes to wear the flared out pants and like the black bag I don't know whatever the just like Steve Lacey or whatever. Yes, Kessie like that's a different look, right? Where I'm saying that if you're not dedicated one of those styles and you have no current style You're just gonna go into what works point number two. It works I think that the Kevin win look it's not a bad look and maybe typical and basic and you can criticize it for that But it works as in you look good. You're you're clean-shaven your hair is tall So your head is elongated your clothes fit. It looks masculine It's sort of like getting a brand new 2023 Civic or a cord or Tesla Model 3. You can't really go wrong Those are the basic choices. Yeah, those are the highest selling cars in segment for a reason. Yeah, they're not niche They're not like mind-blowing. They're not phenomenal, but those are what works, right? So it what works also, it's affordable I think a lot of Kevin wins come from the middle class the Kevin win style is not hyper expensive And it's not hard to achieve right just get a black t-shirt get a little gold chain and get attached possibly when we're talking about Kevin win activities raving partying I think a lot of Kevin wins still do their homework and study in school by the way But I think that it's basically the only group the largest segment of Asian Americans Asian Americans That seem like they're having fun together is the ABG's and the ABB's and people want to be part of it That's why people join fraternities not all fraternities are wack But there are some fraternities that are more cringe than others But let's be honest you join an Asian fraternity or Asian sorority whether it's a business sorority or business fat Because you want to be part of a crowd that has a social life Hey that that is out like doing social things. Yeah, that's social activities together in an organized structured fashion Attractive it's attract listen There is the comic-con lane and I understand that and there's a part of me that you know I like some geek stuff But if you made me say Kevin wins their play sports, they you know hang out with some of them still play Valorant Yeah, they still and they still game a little bit You know so I'm saying I guess I can see why it's appealing and I agree with you because like being an ABG or ABB It sort of indicates that you're also potentially like above average on the charted spectrum of like Asian attractiveness and Also, it's very difficult to live like that Lily her and her boyfriend like rich golfer like old money lifestyle You know like oh like oh, yeah, we're the Asians from prep school Like that's just not like a lifestyle or a tribe that has a lot of universal accessibility Dude, you know how many Asians tell me they like and watch F1 racing shows, but how many Asians can actually even touch that world Yeah, Asian world. Yeah, no, that's that's a good point. Um Andrew How much do you think that you know how like the the ABG look kind of came from the Chola? stereotype yeah from so Cal right Back in the day, but I don't really see the ABB thing being driven by Cholos Do you know what I'm saying like if in the 90s it was kind of driven by this like gang more like you know I got weapons whether it's whatever whatever you know what I mean I'm not connected in the streets from the 90s thing. I don't see Kevin wins being fully I'm not saying there's no correlation because definitely some of them is doing some things You know what I mean, but I'm just saying like it's not driven by the the Cholo image. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I do think there's some LA Southern California influence in the Kevin win I think that's where Kevin win originally comes from this image is probably for sure Yeah, it's probably LA OC right so I think there's some of that But you're right. It's not based off of the the shaved head Cholo I think that's the general image that people see as a cholo is like the high socks the Cortez the jean shorts Well, and I guess in modern-day the the Edgar is the is the modern. Yeah. Yeah Edgar and Kevin win. Do they have some crossover? Slightly but I really more you're right I think it's I think the Chola and the ABG is much more connected because I think the Chola look is considered sexier You know in a female lane then the then the Cholo is in the male make sense makes it anyway Let's get in the comments section guys like we said There's no real right or wrong answer when you're discussing something as like real but at the same time trivial as like Usage rates of ABG and ABB archetypes in the Asian-American community youth Segment demographic somebody says yes more specifically People do adopt the ABG or ABB archetype to fit into the cool crowd The importance of social status does not end in high school. It follows you to their grave Somebody said it's also how a lot of Asians actually glow up They sort of like where these nerdy high school achievers Maybe fitting into the model minority stereotype and then they join a frat or sorority or a ASU thing and then adopt the ABG ABB look here's the thing guys the Kevin win look the connotation that comes along with it Okay, you can say oh Kevin wins are like dumb or they're like toxic But really the the actually at the core of it. It's a masculine look it is hetero normative It's somewhat ethnic and urban You know what I mean? So like that's the connotation that a lot of Asian guys feel like they lack a lot of nerdy Asian guys They they for whatever I'm not saying they are or not masculine But that how they're perceived we all know this is that we're perceived to be less masculine than other people Yeah, we're sometimes Asian men are honestly not treated like me Yeah, so what do we do you put on more masculine clothing and To be honest, you don't hear a lot of people wanting to mess with Kevin You don't want to eff with a Kevin a group of Kevin wins. I'm not saying that they are great fighters I'm just saying you don't want to mess with them, right? They people don't tend to pick on them. Yes, people don't pick on Kevin wins as much Yeah, like you said, I mean, I would say like you said it's an ethnic look Drake Sometimes dresses like a Kevin win with just like the black sword a lot of people at hookah spots dress like Kevin wins A lot of Middle Eastern guys too. Um, well, they got the Drake influence. Um, somebody says, uh, you know I see a lot of people do the Kevin win But I also see a lot of Asian American guys with the curtain bangs right now like Asian Asian guys So maybe the Kevin win is mixing with a k-pop look in 2023. I would have been k-pop. It's a Kevin k-pop You the Kevin Kim. That's the Kevin k-pop win. Look. Yes. You're talking about the catchy Luxury basics like yeah, I think you can mix and match hairstyles main typical Kevin win Hairstyles, I would go in popularity is this the fade with the comb over kind of what I have to be honest And then the perm and then the curtain bangs now, right? You did get your haircut at 12 Pell Which is kind of a I did get my haircut at 12. Shout it's 12 Pell. It kind of Kevin wins spot For stylish Kevin wins, but yes, yes Somebody said it's super trendy right now, but I only see it in bigger Metropolitan areas in suburbs or more rural cities I don't see people adopt the Kevin win look as much I agree because it has to do with your proximity to an urban center, but particularly influences from SoCal Okay, okay. Yeah, I could see that like you're not gonna see a bunch of Asian guys in the Midwest I'm not saying that none would but just a lower percentage. I think more and more are watch out Somebody was saying I think it's quite the opposite opposite if you go to the suburbs The whitewashed Asians are tend to look pretty plain and then this guy said Priscilla Chan, which is Mark Zuckerberg's wife I can't believe you brought her into this and then Saying that yeah, like so it's different. It depends on like family to family basically. Yeah I mean listen, we come from a pretty bad academic family. It's not fully Organic for people who was like parents have like Graduate school degrees and they were like model minority brain workers didn't the heartseller act to produce ABB ABG kids But I'm saying that that more kids are adopting it from that background to have a life. Yeah, because it's a cool look Yeah, or it's a masculine look it did that look Helps them achieve what image they want to portray. Yep This guy said it just sounds like an Asian-American flavor of the normal human thing where people want to get somewhere in life Such as having a better social life a better dating life Access to certain social opportunities and they're grafting on aspects of a character that has a broad appeal Which is the easiest thing to find and run with it is a identity archetype fashion starter pack It can be useful. That's why people do it You'll likely look more attractive and develop a fully personality if you're open-minded toward this stuff Where it goes wrong is if you're not constantly actively thinking about the parts of it You like and what parts you discard and how you're gonna make it your own Then you're gonna run the risk of becoming a caricature basically like a clone Yeah, this guy was saying basically what we were saying. Yes, it is useful. Yes Looking like a ABG or ABB or being influenced by these fashion archetypes will get you something in life But you don't want to end up looking so ridiculous. Yeah, but I and I think that There's archetypes in every circle like the the rapper archetype There's like people that you meet and you're like man They're like a stereotypical rapper or like the artsy kid and you're like dude This is a such a artsy kid right art school kid You know, so I think there are stereotypes of every type of style And I think every style likes to think that they're cooler than the next one or that they're high and mighty or that they Are more thoughtful, but there can be drones in those too, right? Um, this guy said for me. I'm not into that look I have a day job. I'm dedicated to I care about my appearances But I have basic ass hobbies like hiking hot pot and reading this actually still gets me respect in my world So I don't care about ABG's or ABB's nor am I part of that circle? What do you think of that? Um, do you think ultimately everybody has to be in that archetype to have fun? No, right? No, like this guy probably is more like in the computer programmer lane, but ultimately yeah I mean if he's like tall good-looking whatever he just gonna get the girls who more like people who travel and go hiking Right, that's like a different lane though. It's true that you won't have access to the ABG influence pool though Would you agree with that like he's shutting himself off from that? Particular large segment of the Asian-American population socially. Yeah Somebody said young people are always looking to fit in with a popular crowd whether you're white black Asian or Latino and Yeah, everybody does it. This is just the Asian version of it So basically he's saying that like every people every race like sort of does this within their own community But the ABG ABB it just is the one that won out in the Asian community Yeah, I mean you have you seen these videos of these white frat guys rushing frats in like the South like they all look like clones. Oh, I got particularly the southern They all have to wear polos. They're all tucked into their shorts They all like white kids and they're all those names like chat or like yeah, whatever like I mean listen I think that part of social media. It's good and bad because it exposes you to different niches potentially But it also is a unifying culture in that once someone sees a style that fits Everybody adopts that because it just works now are people more clones of each other than they've ever been. I don't know Maybe maybe not yeah I see more people was like more distinct styles because I remember for a while old Navy and gap used to be really dominant And that's like the plainest style you could possibly wear is like gap clothing Somebody said you really only have three choices as an Asian guy in college go the ABB route or ABB adjacent route Hit the gym five times a week while rocking a crew cut or curtain hairstyle This route will unlock 50% of Asian chicks in America that exclusively date Asian guys hot ABG's and hot other types of women await you number two join a white frat Bro crowd and distance yourself from the Asian community Asian guys who I see don't hang out with other Asians usually end up dating a Mediocre looking white girl or Asian girl point number three pick the PC gamer route This is actually an enormous amount of Asian guys like this play Valorant every night be out of shape Be still a virgin at 20 something for every Asian guy that is slaying right now There are probably at least four other Asian guys that fit into this archetype And other people were saying yo this guy got it spot on do you agree with this? Does it seem like these are the three choices once somebody enters like a you know like a large The one college I think he forgot about the international school crowd But yes for Americanized Asian guys. I think it's more or less true, but I think there is obviously the fob crowd Yeah, no, I noticed that some Asian American guys Andrew They almost become dressed like a rich international student That's very like worldly Traveled and has a lot of stamps in their passport and then they date mostly international chicks for the rest of their life So they almost like I know I did that that like world traveler thing. I mean Everybody was just you know basically saying this is just some way to have social status in the Asian American community What do you think? Do you think it's fair unfair or it is what it is because it's true that some Asian guys They want access to like hot ABG looking girls, right? But they don't want to fit into the ABB lane But if you don't and let's say you for example You're wearing all this raw denim and you're looking like you listen to that stomp clamp You know like all the vintage leathers and stuff It's true that ABG girls are not gonna like that No, that's a different style and I think at the end of the day a lot of Asian dudes Do not have a style that they are married to some guys are some guys are like nah, man This is what I'm into man. I only want this type of clothing. I go to this vintage shop I hunt here on on my on the weekend and do what I go to antique shops That's a certain lifestyle. I got friends in New York who act like that right who they want the They work in film they want the film cameras, you know, they want the role and then they want to develop their own film And so that's essentially the hipster hipster That's a different lifestyle and you're not gonna attract ABG's that way So if you want ABG's you have to become some version not saying cookie cutter But some version of something that appeals to them and that's just what it is and I think It's not that just all guys want to get ABG's But they just know that the Kevin Wynn style works for a mass amount of Different that's how you get the quote-unquote hot Asian girls who actually Like Asian guys back. Yeah for the most part, right? I mean some Asian dudes are deep in the streetwear lane They work at sneaker shops. They have to be decked out in every street. They got no Cactus plant this oh this person broke off from supreme and started this brand and that's right And I'm just saying that's a different subculture. That's a different world that has its benefits, too But I'm just saying you have to understand that like that's not typical. That is not the mass market, right, right, right? So like we said guys Here's a couple looks that I see that are popular amongst the youth the Kevin Wynn But like you said you can have the Kevin lamb the Kevin Lynn the Kevin Kim, you know, like multi racial variations Maybe this guy hype beast sprinkled on it. This got K-pop sprinkled on it This has a little bit more like Taiwanese tech bro sprinkled on it You know CEO VC type the Keshi sad boy artsy boy cigarette boy Would you say this one's trendy right now? You know a little bit lo-fi We got the k-pop f-boy which is a little bit like Jay Park mixing it with some BTS I'd throw in a tech guy all birds Kevin Wynn's don't wear all birds That's the that's just the Kevin said Tech founder. Yeah, I'm the racially ambiguous guy. I tend to think that that really works well for Filipinos because you know sometimes look Latino International student which we said is like the rich boy look, you know GQ, you know what I mean more like Archive fashion if you really want to get into $1,000 Balenciaga shoes and then yeah, there's other archetypes too You know Asian Hooper guy, but I noticed the reason why and we have a lot of friends that are Asian Hoopers Andrew The Asian Hooper look you can get a girlfriend, but that's not the look of a player You know me cuz you're more focused on hooping yeah and tracking your stats and stuff But ultimately guys. Yeah, let us know why you guys think in the comment section below that you know People are posing this question. Why does it seem like every year a disproportionately large amount of Asian Americans choose the ABG or ABB Lane, what are their motivations? Could there be another archetype that emerges as you know working for people? Maybe it just takes a celebrity to break open the game. Let us know what you think in the comment section below We encourage the debate until next time we'd hop up boys. We out. Peace