 We get into our deep dive it's me Phil Perry in for trendy kids Eric excuse me trendy Casey That's throwback on the name big-time throwback old habits die hard throwback here mark the beetle Bertrand 98 by the sports hub Beetle is this it for Bill Belichick. Will we ever see him coach another game now that the Falcons have passed? I think it gets harder a year from now Based on the fact that he didn't get an opening and there were seven other openings in addition to the Patriots opening Which obviously he was not gonna get so I think a year removed it doesn't become easier It becomes harder and so if I had to say, you know, you have to make Prediction on this he's closer to not having another job Then he is having another job again because once you get out of it And you're out of it for a period of time and you're now in your 70s inching toward your mid 70s I think it becomes harder and harder to get a job And I think it's just so unpredictable in terms of which jobs will be available at this time next year Will there be eight openings again next year? I would say that's probably unlikely I also wonder what his desire will be to get back into the pool not to coach He might have it somewhere in the back of his mind even after this process. I still want to get back in I still would love to break that record, but to get back into the pool understanding It's no guarantee that you get a job. Does he feel as though his legacies taken a bit of a hit here Is there any level of embarrassment here where you interview twice for the Falcons and everybody knows it? Usually this guy controls the message to the umpteenth degree And now everyone knows the Falcons have chosen Raheem Morris instead. Okay, so six teams have filled their head coaching vacancies Only Jim Harbaugh, would you call established and he's been out of the NFL for a decade Raheem Morris has some experience But hasn't won drawn bail Dave Canalis Brian Callahan all rookie head coaches Meanwhile, Belichick unemployed despite his 333 career wins And with that we bring in Patriots legend former Bill Belichick pupil James White James. Thanks for entering the conversation here Are you surprised that Bill Belichick has gone through this process at least with the Falcons We'll see what lies ahead if there's a mystery team number two But are you surprised that he got through this process two interviews with the Falcons and he still doesn't have a job It's not a huge surprise. I thought there would only be about two teams He would actually be interested in coaching They have to be the right organization the right roster that can win right away And obviously he's a coach who's done it a certain way for 20 plus years He's gonna want to have it the same way within that organization So you never knew of any organization that had a job opening right now was going to be open to him having that type of control I think his legacy is already hit it's already set And no matter what he's done these last two three seasons And I know it hasn't had as much success over the last three years But you nobody's gonna replicate those 20 plus years success I feel like that's gonna be really tough for any franchise to try and do that James when you say you think he would want to be in the right situation What do you think it was about Atlanta that in his mind made that the right situation for him? What's a young football roster they have a solid and young defense some good backs there The biggest piece that's missing in that situation is the quarterback So I feel like if he would have went to that place It would have been just a quarterback that he needed in order to take them to the next step You know the type of discipline the type of structure that was going to be set there That's been missing from there from the last several seasons after you know a certain game that happened You know a few years ago and he'd be the type of guy that could help get them right Which I think Raheem Morris is a great hire He's the guy who's been in you know the coaching candidate interviews over the last several seasons So you knew his name will be hot right here. He's going back to a place where he coach I thought that'd been a perfect fit for bill to fit right there in Atlanta if they decided to go that direction James you're the perfect person to ask having been a lot of bill bellow check locker rooms But I think a lot of people looking at this from afar They look at the record lately since tom brady Maybe how some of the younger players have panned out here in new england even our own tom caron the other day Said he got a text message from a current player who used to be here Saying boy bill ends up in atlanta. You might have some guys asking for trades in your opinion How well does bill bellow check relate to the new generation of player that's in the game today in 2024 I think he still relates well obviously at the You know bringing the certain type of player with to within your organization Not everybody's going to be willing and able to accept that type of coaching But trust me is it's not i'm sure he coached very differently when he first got to new england versus You know when I left new england you got to adjust to the players that are within your roster And I think he has the preparation is going to be there I was there two years ago. The preparation is the same is all about No guys buying in bringing in the right players that you can develop and put them in the right situation to succeed Over the last few years it hasn't been that you know been that way especially offensively defensively They've been solid and that's just been the big issue Which i'm sure from you know most people outside looking in is why isn't the offense going out there scoring points and helping the defense Yeah, I think you're bringing up the point about the last few years And I wonder and i'm curious to get your thoughts Is this the league looking at bill and saying we're going a little bit younger We're going a little bit more offensive minded, although that's not the case with raheem morris But we can't overlook the way the patriots looked over the last few seasons. Is that catching up with bill right now? I think so, I mean Everybody's starting to go young you're seeing you know Obviously male youngest coach in the league a lot of these coaches are under 40 years old the game's changing You know more organizations are trying to be more about you know Fun and like all this other stuff which we have fun within our organization when I was playing It's just a different type of fun We're gonna you be coached hard and you're gonna win football games And you're gonna have fun with your teammates everybody's going through the same grind, you know putting in the work I think he is still you know a very good football coach No matter whether you're 30 years old, you know 70 plus years old It's which bill is as long as you get to buy in from the players That's all that matters and I think it starts by bringing the right type of players within your building If you don't have those guys and you bring it a bunch of guys that aren't willing to take your coaching Yeah, it's gonna be very tough to win football games It's really interesting morris even though he's a defensive coach has a lot of links to a great offensive mind in Shaw McVeigh because he worked under McVeigh. He knows a lot of those assistants are really interesting part of the whole equation Some interesting tweets that we wanted to get to with you here at james This is from Brett jukes who's one of arthur blanks executives works In the operation down there in atlanta. He was in all of those falcons coaches interviews and provided insight from the room He calls morris's first interview quote-unquote electric in his second interview even better james Can you picture bill bellachic walking into a room and being quote-unquote? Electric, how do you think he presented himself in those situations sitting down with ownership there in atlanta? It definitely wouldn't be electric. I think he's gonna let his resume speak for itself It's just like look. This is what I've done. You know, I've had this much success where I was I know the last three years haven't been great. But if you let me do this this this this You know, I could help this team get to the right direction. It definitely wasn't electric We know he's not you know, he doesn't have the electric personality But he knows the game of football inside and out He knows how to tap into players and to unlock their potential And that's the type of things that he's going to share with any organ organization or any owner James wanted to pivot a little bit here and ask you about the offensive coordinator situation Here in new england, um, you know, they've got a lot of names On the list right now. We're looking at them here. Nick kaley Assistant obviously with the rims assistant long time here in new england was an assistant on staffs that you played for james And there's thomas brown another former mcvay assistant coordinator for the panthers draught johnson quarterbacks coach For the texans worked in minnesota previously. Then you have tanner angstrand who's coming from the lions organization Obviously, they have done a good job Offensively there under offensive coordinator ben johnson Does it concern you at all as a patriots fan still i'm sure and patriots follower from afar james that they haven't filled this thing yet Are you worried that maybe this isn't an attractive enough job to land the offensive coordinator that the patriots really covet No, i'm not worried. I think they're taking their time making sure they find the right guy trying to figure out what system they're trying to implement Maybe they're trying to figure out You know, which rookie are they truly like even though they're not going to know Which guy is going to be there at pick three unless they trade up to number one and decide that way But you're just going to you know cross cross cross your cross your t's dot all your eyes Just make sure everything's correct. Make sure you bring in the right guy Because obviously this is going to be something that's going to be a big question mark going in the next season What this offense is going to look like as far as the offense coordinator quarterback Offense as a whole So you want to bring the right guy is going to develop and really build a scheme No, not not only around the quarterback But offense aligned and the whole entire skill groups that's there I think that's what's the most important thing no matter You know what team this this coach is coming from whether shah mcvay or you know one of these other You know flashy schemes You still have to build the offense around the guys that are in that organization So james put yourself in jurad mayo's shoes Which style of offense would you want to use for the patriots? And i know that it's hard to answer because you don't know the personnel But assuming you're building this offense, what should they want to be in 2024 and beyond? Well, you got remandre stevens are coming back. So I think it's run play action And that's that's the thing that shah mcvay does you're gonna get runs gonna get play action easy access throws Like kyle shanahan, they'll throw bubble screens until you stop But they'll throw balls across the middle of the field until you stop He's just you set the defense up and then when they think they got to figure out that you throw something else at them So I think that's what it's all about I know when I was there with josh mcdames, that's what we did. We found the defense's weaknesses We tried to exploit them as much as possible or we figure out what they don't do as well And that's what we're gonna try and attack. I think that's what it's all about You want to attack defensive weaknesses? You can't go into a game just running the same thing you ran all year long Of course teams are gonna be prepared and ready for that But at the same time you got to have the guys, you know that can go out there and execute your plan Be dominant Willing to accept their role and just execute every sunday monday thursday saturday whatever day you play James you mentioned josh mcdaniels. He's available. Should the patriots be open to bringing him back? Should they bring him back and can his offense work in today's game? We saw how it worked out there in vegas when he was there Bumpy to say the least and I understand you get a great quarterback It can make everybody look a little bit better But does his style of offense still work and should the patriots want it? I think he's a valid candidate. I mean you saw what he did with with mac jones in his rookie season You know, maybe if he had him these last two seasons, we probably have different results from mac jones I think his offense still works Is like I said, it's all about having the right guys that you can build that system around You got to have smart tough dependable guys Not everybody is built for that system Like I said, I've never played within any other system besides from a josh mcdaniels system So I don't know, you know anything other than that But you've got to have guys that are bought in or smart can learn a lot and learn at a high rate Because he coaches fast and he coaches hard and not everybody can play in that type of system How excited would you be as a patriots follower for that fast and hard coaching from josh mcdaniels back with the Patriots offense in 2012? I think it would be more of the same and I like josh mcdaniels And I've always said I think josh mcdaniels is a great offensive coordinator But if you're going to fire bill bellichick, which is what I believe happened here You've got to make some some pretty significant changes and use it as an opportunity to mix in a lot of new things And for me that would mean changing what the team does from an offensive scheme I think it's time this this feels like the appropriate time They have to add so much from a talent perspective that if you're going to make a change This would seem to be that sort of fork in the road where you decide to go in that direction