 gentlemen from can we move that over to the side until you're not seeing Steve you know blocking and tell we get everything thanks tell we get everything signed just a little update obviously this is not Halloween with the costumes but we are April Fool's there you go oh thank you we are kicking off our 150th birthday starting this weekend and we started tonight with the first council meeting of our 150th birthday to Susque Centennial of Sheboygan some things going on this weekend and it will start at noon Friday on the front steps of City Hall 1150 Wilson Lincoln Erdman School Chorus will be outside I will welcome guests you'll be bell ringing for I believe three minutes back three minutes then we will have special guests and her life and sender Panzer representative Costell representative Terry van Akron secretary Kevin Shibilsky senator Russ Feingold or his designee and congressman Tom Petrie will be with us at 1215 we'll unveil and and present the recreation of the charter which we have all them along and we'll be helping on that we will have a presentation by Sheboygan coats and tails we'll have a song song Sheboygan is my heart performed by Mary Decker and then again the Wilson Lincoln Erdman School Chorus will finish up then Saturday at 10 o'clock 10 a.m. we start at the Armory and that goes from 10 until 2 or 2 30 and there will be Bratz hamburgers nachos coffee and soda products down there for that you can purchase but we'll start with the monk traditional dance forester school of dance the shoe plotters there will be a game who wants to be a Sheboygan there and there will be audience participation correct Michael Sheboygan pops band will play and then there'll be other activities going on so that will go from 10 until 2 everyone's welcome to be at Armory Saturday and I would hope every one of the alderman who can either be here Friday or Saturday would would participate Mike if I may just add one more thing it'll also be about three dozen exhibitors down in the Armory which all of them which will have special displays showing Sheboygan's history over the last hundred and fifty years so it'll really be a great educational event also thank you correct and they are on the inside so if anyone would like a pamphlet telling you who's going to be down there we have more room so with that Pat tells me we're set to roll notice of the 25th regular meeting of the Common Council that would you call the roll please well then I would move that we approve the minutes of the previous meeting has entered on the record move to the second that we approve the minutes of the previous council meeting under discussion hearing none all in favor opposed motion period pledged allegiance all the reports would you lead us please I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all thank you we have two hearings this evening the first is the proposed use of federal community block grant funds and the second hearing is amend the zoning classification of property located in the south pier district any interested parties wishing to be heard on any of the two any interest parties please step up the microphone I work at Vandal and Associates in Madison I'm here representing the Great Lakes companies can you hear me no he said get close I'm here today to ask for rezoning of our project which is located in the south pier district you can see it on the map there it's the orange parcel and the purple parcel those two are separated by a right away that will be owned by the city which will not be used for a road but rather a pedestrian connection down to the lake but currently the the two parcels are zone pre-plan unit development which is basically there aren't really aren't any land uses associated with that for us to continue our project and go on with the precise implementation plan we request that we rezone the parcel to south pier district PUD 2003-1 and that'll allow us to continue our design work and come before you again with you know pictures of buildings and actual what our project is pretty much it if there's any questions I'll be happy to take them clarify any points council do you have any questions all the wind chills you want to make a motion to hear you be closed thank you your honor I make a motion hearing be closed moved in second hearing is be closed under discussion hearing none all in favor I pose motion carry thank you okay Michael I'll wait for you to move it out of way I'll be formed back no one okay all of them in van Akron thank you your honor you know I look up there and I've been here a long time but I don't think it's been you don't want to go there I I move that all RO's be accepted and filed all committee reports be accepted and adopted all resolutions and substitute resolutions general ordinances and substitute general ordinances be put upon their passage moved in second at all RO's be accepted and filed RCs be accepted adopted resolutions ordinances substitute resolutions and substitute ordinances be put upon their passage under discussion Alderman Berg thank you and I'd like to pull 2529 RC by public protection and safety we recommend filing documents ready to the study of a public safety department for a set of separate consideration okay moving to second that we pull 2529 for a separate vote you want a roll call on that this is a document that really looks at changing or evaluating the model of how we offer public safety services a couple of things along that line we're soon likely to have a building that can accommodate the police department you travel the matter to walk you will see they have a public safety bill that includes both police and fire Alderman Schultz has a document currently in strategic pistol planning that looks at request that we look at how our organizational charts are structured and looking at individual positions I think that rather than looking at it linearly this really is a occasion to look systemically at how our police fire services are delivered if you were to look at our organization charts you will see that there are some similarities between how those particular departments are staffed and I think if if it is likely that we build on the county site I think we should take into account the possibility of at least including the management staff under one roof and otherwise we're going to have a management staff on 24th Street looking out a window and a management staff on 25th Street and I think that we could perhaps easily look towards any economies of scale by changing our departmental models by studying so for that purpose what I'd like to do is refer this to strategic fiscal planning of the new council there's been a motion to refer this to strategic fiscal plan of the new council under discussion hearing none all in favor all those motion carried thank you Alderman bird Alderman Doyle thank you your honor 25 30 I just like to complain about that and pull it for a separate vote okay the most of the programs under the block grant I think our outstanding is outstanding especially the housing rehab one which I think is doing a wonderful job but I think the drift of the use of funds in in the last couple years is getting away from the low and moderate income intent that the federal government had for that program there's more and again human beings are pretty clever and we can rationalize almost anything we want to but I think baseball lights at the field down there is getting pretty far away from helping low and moderate income people and I notice there's a tendency to use more and more of the money to fund parks which is basically what we're trying to do is move it away from the public works budget with a shortage of funds and so on and but I think that kind of thing is appropriate I think we need to fund those things out of the regular budget including the bus transportation and other topics you'd like a separate one I know please just know if there's another discussion on the press thank you if you would just please explain what the yes vote knows and no means yes would be passing the substitute resolution as it is here which is decreasing the transit by 5,000 and adding the literacy council at 5,000 the rest of the plan stays as it was originally brought in okay if there's another discussion on that would you call the roll please D. Berg E. Berg Doyle Manny Moody Perez ports Schultz Stefan D. Van Akron T. Van Akron then Vanderheel Wongamann Warner Weninger Baumann 14 eyes to nose motion carried okay Alderman Schultz thank you your honor I apologize but on 25 18 I was going to call Ed Suric today and I neglected to do that I was going to ask for an explanation as to what we're changing and why we're changing it I thought the document had received a tremendous amount of discussion at the time that it was approved originally and here we are a few months later amending that you know I guess why are we doing it and are we going to find a reason to amend it again in the future if it seems if it isn't fitting some persons or people's ideas as to what it hiring free should be so I guess again apologizing for trying to put in anybody on the spot if somebody could give us an explanation as to what we're changing and why we're changing it thank you very much it's what we did in late last salary and grievance committee meeting was trying to clarify what we meant by filling or not filling positions and basically what we're saying is that a position will be reviewed if we have the hope we don't have the whole document here but basically we're saying is that what a position becomes available would be viewed by the mayor by myself through salary and grievance and then brought to council and that's basically the change because I think we had two or three different versions of the the document or in impressions of what what the document actually meant so this is simply a clarification that it will require positions to go through the whole system did you want to say oh hey what was the original wording I don't have the approved document I remember last time when we had three positions in DPW to fill there was a confusion as to how it would get to the mayor to decide and then we decided that he'd have to come through with an RO giving his permission salary grievances had to come in with an ROC with their favorable and then the two were voted on as a favorable so this way I believe it would mean that the mayor would give his favorable to the committee and it would all come from the committee at one time rather than Mishmash maybe that's why it took an hour to discuss that when we created it okay thank you in order to bring it up the way it should have been all the way T-van accurate thank you dad so we're really not changing the process is what you're telling me and if the mayor if an open position goes to the mayor not just the and Ed right through the department head I think if Tom would meet with Ed two of them would go to you you would say yes or no even the nose go back okay it's all I need no all of them in order I think just to clarify that the way it read before we had the words kind of flopper on there and it was it was coming the department head and Ed were reviewing it and then it was coming to salary and grievance and in salary and grievance was sending a report of committee to the mayor right and then there what was the mayor going to do with it we had to come back to starting grievance there was we just had the word switcher on us actually we just straighten it out is what we did what is the same thing if there's no other discussion you want to accept all the Roland separate okay if there is no other discussion oh excuse me Alderman Manny one quick question on 2517 directing the public hearing request for that for rezoning the property at Forest X Pennsylvania would that be to be rezoned as commercial and would that require knocking down that house of that property I believe the application has been made by the applicant to rezone the property it's presently zoned urban residential there's a little blue residence on the house right now they want to rezone the property to central commercial that will come to the plan commission for us to review all they're doing at this point in time would be looking at the land use designation changing it from residential to commercial the idea is to do that because they have some type of idea that they would like to develop the property commercially thank you Steve okay there's another discussion Pat would you call the roll from 251 through 2534 Eber Doyle Manny Moody Perez courts Schultz Stefan Devin Akron Teevin Akron Vandereel Wongan Warner Winniger Solomon D. Burr 16 eyes motion carried it 2535 to be referred 2536 through yeah through 53 to be referred and 2548 4950 and 51 that will go to risk management of this committee not the new committee 2554 by Alderman Baumann Berg Berg Doyle Manny Moody Perez Ford Schultz Stefan Van Akron Teevin Akron Vandereel Wongan Warner Winniger supporting local and Wisconsin military personnel Alderman Baumann oh excuse me Alderman Van Akron or whoever Alderman Baldwin thank you I'd move that the resolution as stated be put upon its passage moved in second at the resolution be put upon its passage under discussion hearing none all in favor opposed motion carried 2555 and 56 will lie over 57 and 58 to be referred along with 59 through 61 and that will go to the new council 2562 will be referred to the new council the public works of the new council 2553 through 65 to be referred 2430 an RO by city plan commission recommending rezoning property in the south pier district Alderman Warner thank you and I make a motion to accept and file the report of officer impact and to pass the attached ordinance moved in second accept and file the RO and pass to ordinance under discussion under discussion your honor this is relative to rezoning the described property of the south pier district from pre-planned unit development to class south pier plan unit development 2000 that in 3-1 the present pre-planned zoning does not meet the mixed use needs for the future of this site planned unit development zoning is more suited to mixed land use it is also consistent with the city's 2000 comprehensive plan the staff and the plan commission recommend approval thank you thank you is there any other discussion if not what you call the role please Doyle Manny Moody Perez ports Schultz Stefan D. Van Akron T. Van Akron Vanderbilt Wangeman Warner Wieninger Bauman D. Berg E. Berg 16 eyes motion carried I should have did this before and excuse me but we have one of our new Alderman out here at night I only see one Alderman Montemire congratulations and thank you for coming to the meeting this evening she will be taking Alderman Van Akron's position 2447 by Alderman T. Van Akron Schultz Perez and Doyle transferring funds in the 2003 budget Alderman Van Akron thank you your honor I wouldn't move that the resolution be put upon its passage moved in second a resolution be put upon its passage under discussion hearing none would you call the role please Manny Moody Perez ports Schultz Stefan D. Van Akron T. Van Akron Vanderbilt Wangeman Warner Wieninger Bauman D. Berg E. Berg Doyle 16 eyes motion carried 2459 in general orders by Alderman Warner Doyle Wieninger Vanderbilt and Manny amending the no-standing stopping or parking areas to add David Avenue from a point west of the west curb line of South 22nd Street to the east curb line of South 24 Street Alderman Warner thank you honor I make a motion the general ordinance be put upon its passage moved in second ordinance be put upon its passage under discussion under discussion your honor this is an ordinance relating to the standing stopping or parking area so as to add David Avenue as described to the no parking stopping or standing regulations there have been increased safety concerns raised in the area due to traffic and young children at James Madison School in keeping with our effort to increase the safety of the areas around our schools the Public Protection Safety Committee recommends this change to the parking regulations this will be effective on school days only from 7 a.m. to 4 p.m. and is consistent with changes made elsewhere and I would expect Alderman Schultz to vote against this as he usually does and I'm looking forward to hear that one thank you all of us Alderman Schultz did you want to speak? Disappoint Alderman Warner. If there's another discussion would you call the roll please? Moody, Perez, Portz, Schultz, Stefan, Devin Akron, Teevin Akron, Vanderbilt, Wongerman, Warner. You said no? Neither wants to disappoint each other I was confused. Bauman, Diber, Eber, Doyle, Manny, 13 eyes, 3 nose. Motion carry. Steve? 2566 is a resolution authorizing the purchasing agent to participate in the DOT Rural Salt Purchase Program. Where'd you find 2566? I have 67 but where's that one? Oh you were supposed to have one. Oh thank you. Sorry. That goes public works. Thank you. 2567 is a resolution authorizing the continuation of health insurance for employees that have been called up for active military service in the Iraq War. Salon grievance. 2568 is an RO by the city clerk submitting an application from Lutheran social services for change and zoning classification of property located at 706 North 9th Street from UR 12 Urban Residential 12 to class UC Urban Commercial. Plan commission. 2569 is a resolution directing a public hearing to be held in connection with changes of the city's official zoning map for property located at 706 North 9th Street. Baldwin, Van Akron. Your Honor, I move the resolution be put upon its passage. Moved to the second resolution be put upon its passage under discussion. Are you none all in favor? Opposed? Motion carried. 2570 is an ordinance amending the city's official zoning map of the zoning ordinance to change the use district classification of property located 706 North 9th Street from class UR 12 Urban Residential 12 to class UC Urban Commercial classification. Plan commission. Moved in second to adjourn. Just one thing. All other persons, the revised draft of the development agreement is in your inboxes. You got the clean version. I made copies also of the redlined or marked up version that compares your prior version to this current version, but I didn't make enough copies for everybody. If those of you that would like copies tonight come up after the meeting, and I'll give them to you. And if there's not enough, I'll make more tomorrow and make sure they get to you. Alderman Van Akron. Your Honor, just to remind everybody that we will have a committee the whole next Monday at 6.30 here to discuss this document and any recommendations coming from finance from that same union. Okay. We have a motion. Okay, we have a motion to adjourn. All in favor? Opposed?