 We're going to wait another minute or two to see if Councilman, Council person. Elizabeth Beck is available to make a few words about. The city and this project good evening. The presentation. For the Carroll Street and 5th Street projects is about to begin. We have 2 projects in the Linwood. Area just north of West 7th Street. Good evening, welcome and this project. We have 2 projects called Carroll Street and Marinette Street. And the 2nd project that I'll be going over is the 5th Street. From Carroll Street to the railroad also known as a project that just north of Montgomery Plaza. Both these projects are storm drain pipe rehabilitation improvement projects. This evening, I'll be presenting this presentation. My name is Fred and we also have the design engineer, Rodrigo, this carry out with incorporated. As well in this presentation, the storm drain rehabilitation program is relatively new to the city. It's been around for a few years and our main purpose is to proactively maintain aging storm green pipes and prolong their service life. We have investigated historical pipe fires. Look at the pipe ages and based on institutional knowledge from our operations and maintenance. Personnel have compiled a list of projects that need. Attention in the near future, we prioritize these projects based on. Using close circuit TV inspections inside the storm drape pipes, which are under the streets. We reviewed videos for various pipe defects. And at this point, we prioritize several types for rehabilitation. Our goal for the real, the telly rehabilitation is to utilize translist technologies for repairs. Some common methods to do trench list repairs to. Inground existing pipes is cured in place pipe. Geopolymer pipe lining and pipe bursting. We've identified these 2 pipes on the sheet on the map on the left as a blue pipe and a red pipe. The blue pipe is the Carol. Maranek pipes, which are named after the streets that the pipes are under. The 5th Street pipe is actually in a public access easement. Going from Carol Boulevard and behind Montgomery Plaza towards the rare attracts. The photo near the center of the screen is the Carol Maranek. By the condition, it has some cracks and needs attention. The 5th Street pipe is a larger pipe that also has similar defects. The design engineer is HDR and most of the pipe rehabilitation will be done using a trench list method. There may be a situation where we might have to exhumate. To repair any special areas that need attention and we call those point repairs. For Carol Street and Maranek Street construction is expected to start in the summer of 2022. Last about 10 months and cost about 650 thousand dollars. In this project will be located within the city's right away. As shown before, the pipe is identified in blue. We have 3 manholes that are in line with the pipes. During construction, some of these manholes will be. Access to help construct the. Trench list rehabilitation of the pipes. The other project we're working on is the 5th Street from Carol Street to the railroad. HDR once again is the design engineer on this project. There will be excavation because of a proposed intermediate manhole. That we determined is needed. Construction is expected to start in early winter 2022. Last about 10 months and cost about 2 million dollars. This project is in a city easement. So 5th Street goes from roughly the center of Carol Street 5th Street intersection. To just about shy of the railroad. There'll be 2 staging areas 1 on the east side near the railroad 1 on the west side near Carol Street. Station area is going to. Help the contractor use equipment and get access to the manholes and entirely matter. And we're going to be constructing a manhole. Somewhere between the interior intersection. Of this retail development between Wells Fargo Bank. On the west and Chick-fil-A on the east. We are going to take into consideration when we look at traffic considerations. To ensure that we minimize impact. To the businesses in this area. Especially like drive-throughs for Chick-fil-A because. Does anybody have any questions at this time I do. Can you hear me? Yes, I do. Okay. So, um, I. I was wanting to ask how will this impact our Mary Mac residents? Like, what can we? Well, what can I tell them to what to expect? He said, 10 months. So we haven't really gone through a high. We really took a. There will be some traffic impact on it, but we haven't got to that level of detail yet. Okay, how much convenience that will have the residents. Okay, and so we can just keep in contact and I can kind of prepare them as we go along. Yes, and by the way, this is 1 of a few meetings that we'll be having on this project. Okay, this is kind of like the kickoff meeting for for both projects. Okay. And we'll have another meeting when. Our design plans are pretty much finalized. And the most likely will be a meeting before construction begins. Okay, perfect. Thank you. And and Stacy, this is Linda. It. 1 of the reasons that we're using this trenchless technology is to try to minimize disruption. To residents and businesses and the traveling public. And while we will have to have some lane closings and so forth, we just don't know what those are yet. Okay, we're going to be, you know, basically kind of working for manhole to manhole. And it's not going to be 1 of the larger excavation projects that you may have seen around the city. Okay, but Margaret DeLos here. Could you go over those dates again? You said they're going to both take about 20 months. And I was taking notes spring of 2022 and early winter. What does that mean? Is early winter starting November of 2022? 22 or January 2022. Okay, I'll get to that slide. Okay, we've been 20, 22. Our best estimate at this time would probably fall early December of 2022. Thanks. Do you need the approximate month for the other project as well? Sure, sure. So, I'm in 2022 is likely to be. Uh, June, July around the June, July part of 2022. Red and Linda, if I may, this is Rodrigo, he's kind of with HDR on. Stacey question about the manholes and lane closures. What our traffic engineers have estimated is that we don't need to close down the entire street for access to the manholes. There will be lanes open for access of traffic. So it'll, it'll be a matter of coordinating with a contractor to, to always keep at least 1 lane open or traffic flow. For both of those manholes that will be accessed on Carol and Mary. Thank you. Any further questions? Any further questions? Actually, I do, um, you said, maybe further our future meetings. Are we looking at months down so I can. Prepare the next meeting will be when we have. Most of the design plans complete. On the Carol, we just got to the 30% threshold on planes as of right before this meeting. So it's taken us several months to get there. So we're the next. Possible time of meetings most likely will be. Early next year and you said in a couple of days, this will I'll be able to share it with everybody. Yes, that's what Jeff Allen was mentioning. Early, okay, perfect and Fred, could you repeat that information for everybody? Yes, most certainly this presentation is being recorded. In a few days sometime next week, they'll be available by looking at, I guess, the community. Development community department will have it available for residents to view. This presentation, so it'll be we'll post it on our city's YouTube channel. And it'll be, I don't think I've created a project page for this yet since we're so early, but it'll be on there as well. Um, but Stacy, I'll just, I can just email it to you. Perfect, thank you. Yeah, Margaret, I can email it to you too. If, um, if you want to share it. Perfect, thank you. You bet. So that'll probably be, um. Maybe either tomorrow afternoon or Monday when I have it, it just depends on how long it takes to get it loaded onto YouTube. That's great. Thank you. Any additional questions? This, this Margaret, I'm sorry, I'm in looking at this map, the red, the 5th street project stops at the railroad. And is there are their future plans or are there issues? Each of the world wherever that that must connect somewhere. Yes, that pipe is. Pretty large pipe 1, actually walking that pipe, it's a little shy of 6 feet tall. It's an arch pipe and it continues all the way to the Trinity river. So, it follows the alignment of 5th street on the other side of the river tracks. The pipe that we're working up just north of Montgomery Plaza happens to be. The neediest pipe that needs needs attention. And so that's why we're handling that pipe. Within a couple of months gap of the Marinette Carol pipe segment. Have there been any tests done on the Eastern portion of that? I mean, I ask that because I know that. When we 1st moved into Montgomery Plaza 14, 14, whenever it was years ago. And there were a lot of problems with. Done that old infrastructure during the construction, a reconstruction of this building. And issues with sewer gas odor and, you know, all kinds of nastiness. That we're emanating, I think, out of this, this pipe that we're talking about. And we, we don't know right at this time if that pipe has been CC TV, if it has been investigated, but we. Um, we'll talk with the group that is doing that. And we will get back to you on that, but tonight we don't know if they've investigated it yet. Okay, thank you any other questions. Does anybody have any further questions for the group? Well, without any further questions, we may be able to conclude this meeting. I want to thank those who are in attendance this meeting. We value your input and as. Linda young stated, you will investigate these questions further and get back to. The people who required about. The area for storm drain. Thank you very much for attending this meeting. Once again, my name is Fred on the project. Manager for both the Carol, the street projects as well as the 5th, 3 projects. If you have any further questions, you can contact me. Apologize for that. That's my contact information. Well, thank you so much. You're welcome. See you in a couple of months. Thank you, Stacy for asking some really good questions. We appreciate it. You're welcome and I'll I'll communicate more with the residents. And we'll get everybody's questions and if everybody, well, if some can't. Attend, then I'll I'll have some questions from, but. Yeah, we look forward to this. Thank you everybody. Thank you. Have a good night. Good night. Thank you. Thank you. Bye.