 with this or a show human human architecture on thing take away. And this happens to be our 310 show you are our accumulated viewer which you see down there. And that's all story Michael and Jay without promotion so with shameful non promotion just promoting itself. And so we're going to go back to the 9th time talking about Lahaina. And it is us. Membring Lahaina on top of what you to Soto Brown in when you are not with us during your Bishop Museum up there as a historian so welcome back to Soto. And we have you Martin Ancelini back with us here for this. So this this is us going back and you just Soto had been we said it was four times. Remembering Lahaina and both from the archives and also from you having been going there and now we're in multiple times looking at what could one do and starting out on this slide. I just want to put into perspective so you the audience when you want to see the whole narrative you got to go back to the recent shows. And here we basically show you what we are not talking about which also one could do maybe one should do. I put this from the Web site that funded can this the con had put together this exhibit of traffic hearing which the Web site Web site features two approaches that could have been done. One is using two by four is the all American system version of the pre contact six of your ancestors to Soto. But he says the mindset is the same the new indigenous you just go with what you have. And then you have one wrench and one connection and you put this together. In it all fits on one flatbed pickup truck his port one and then you go there and put it together or as we've been reporting on a couple of times you take cargo steel which is around shipping containers and you stack them on top of them as in this project. So these are all suggestions and more many more that are based on using what you have from scratch. And please get us right. We appreciate the intention of what we see at the very bottom right there which is people who mean well, but they don't any and any different as to import things from. After all the world where I am from from Hungary and they import these you know folding out boxes that bring shelter yet yes which is good but they bring too much and they also bring back what was not good which is the missionary and I compared it with the image of a winter cold you bring a winter cold here which people in the Ukraine need now again is season wise but we don't need here. We just need an umbrella. And so also bunded has kindly given me trying to keep me hydrated this son Pellegrino bottle which are also you know I drank and I brought it with me which is really nice. But I have to reuse this now all the time because you know this is this is a lot of embodied carbon in it to make glasses melting sand. Now I have to reuse it. So this comes from Italy if you haven't known and also the solo at the bottom left you reported on that quite excessively recently this is the new rail system, which again the train comes where this comes from from Italy. And I just drove there and I want to throw up this picture here of the rail in the back as an all her medic invasive thing that also already started to break down it isn't quite perfect it right. We keep going back to my to our pying mobile, which is more exotic right is also from at the other end of the world from Germany and old Mercedes, but it is a convertible so it's easy breezy. You know, makes no sense to even have that car over there for the few months in the summer, not worth it because I have to have the heart up on all the time. Right. And so that is just just just the points we try to, we try to make about about things this can also be the Arbor day week show because Arbor day is around Arbor day comes from my home away from home, Nebraska. This is where the Morton family that we know from the assault more from later generations has started this thing to to basically plant trees in the world. And the former supposedly former owner of this car, which is former first lady Jean Arioshi has, you know, just like Jimmy Carter has done a lot. You know, during and past her reign, which is having a million trees planted and I just watched you know this. I think this is a show quote of a quote of of public radio having interviewed here where she said well we had a million people at that time now have more. And I suggested to plant a million trees, which they basically did. Right. So we just want you the audience to join us, you know, and thinking beyond what you see but actually, you know, you look at what you see and make up your mind about it and take a critical position, getting us to the next slide because this is what we did when we first met Martin right and you want to stay a little bit what that was and what we looked at. So this is a we should absolutely talk about you the easy breathing know we see it in this image. No, the, the Hawaiian weather in general, don't requires a to be enclosed. We now know that most of the of the casualties that happened in the high now we're because of and what that happened normally with fires are not for the fire itself but but for the smoke and the smoke is dangerous when it is enclosed. You know, even vernacular construction, tropical constructions, when they were closed with palm or or or or straw or different vegetable materials that that were breathing. Now we cannot make this hermetic architecture as the the something you know, and the metro wagons, because this is what is dangerous. So if we leave the air passing, of course we are saving tons and tons of of carbon produced in this in this local context, but also we are generating safer architectures. Yeah, and we, the very the large picture picture at the bottom right is in our favorite mid century modern master mid and late century modern master run Lindgren late partner of Edward killingsworth. And this is the Holly Colani and next slide. This total share with us the update on Ron. Well, Ron is our friend Ron is a retired architect and we've been friends with him for some years now and he is responsible for the entire refurbishment and redevelopment of the Holly Colani hotel right in the middle of wiki key. He worked for the company that created the Kahala Hilton hotel and in both cases of what what they ended up with was this beautiful free open space classical types of attitudes and how they did it but still a lot of openness a lot of live ability and and some things that we really admire. Of course that's not all that he did. Well, our friend Ron is now retired. He's getting elderly. He is working on his finances, and he is living in a wonderful house that's in Long Beach, California, that is just perfect for him architecturally. And again is historic to coming from the 1960s. And he's working on that and we're hoping to help him out in a variety of ways as he gets older and we're hoping to, I won't go into the specifics because that's his business but still, we want to be helping him to live a better life and not only an architecturally nice places but also financially secure as well. And yeah, this is Ron's runs. We've got a lot still to learn from Ron. Let's put it that way. Yeah. And, and again, when you now watch the show and you have been, you know, hit hard by lost everything. Hopefully, you know, not your life but otherwise you couldn't listen to us. You might say, hey, you behemians. Don't you have any other problems as talking about your, your luxury problems? We want to, I want to make sure and I will allow myself, hopefully it's okay for you, Ron, watching us as one of our most loyal viewers to talk about because what your, your life has a lot to do with Hawaii with its architecture and with what to do and what not to do. And what you actually did, Ron, is for me the utmost, you know, hero because you have never done anything that other, other howlies have been doing ever since Cook came and they wanted to steal pieces of the Soda, your islands because that's not what one should do. Steal other people's land, right? And so Ron has not done that versus most other architects, even the ones that we admire that we like. They have that shop here and they bought even Pete Wimberley built himself a house, a beautiful house, a lovely house. But maybe it's, you know, this is your land, the Soda of your people and there was no land ownership. So there is no such thing. Ron always went back home to Long Beach, California and the house he bought that you mentioned that we did many shows about is not what he even designed is the best compliment. It was inspired. It's a track home. It's a developer's house that was inspired by his work. Best compliment you can ever get. If you inspire the mainstream with your avant garde, that's the best you can do. And he never, he just took, you know, as profit what he needed to shelter himself, not make, not making anything more, which puts him in the place that he can't even come back and visit the lovely places he designed as a Hali Kalani, because he can afford it. In fact, he can't even afford a flight here. And that's why he's personally taking care of himself. We're proud of you, Ron, because you talk the neighbor into of your duplex into you selling your half to him. And then he allows you to stay there for lifetime. Thank you, new owner. And that gives you more cash liquidity. But hopefully he use it, Ron, to come back to us because we need you here. There's an article in the star appetizer that we all read it's called called home sharing Hawaii. So one of the problems of the terror of both tropical and temperate territorialization as we call it that it isolates people, right. So Ron, we want you about next to us as the good times we had with you at the docomomos symposium where you were a keynote speaker, but more importantly about all the good times we had before and after because we need you around. Like, like, like rich, you know, is has been taking around just yesterday the soto and the days before, and him playing piano at an art event. That's the way to involve people evolve people who are the wisest, rather than shoving them away locking them away, enslaving them in the golden cages and best case of real estate as we call it. And this gets us to the commune the communal idea that we've been talking about and that you are revitalizing Martin that you are giving a renaissance. And, you know, next slide because we have to talk about touchy things also on our side because there might actually be a problem in Maui that has to do with embracing things with the best intention, not just like the people shipping in these affordable metal boxes, but actually then also not just having the best intention, but also doing the best. And this is here, Ron's masterpiece of the Kapa Lua Bay Hotel that was built in the late 70s. I have to correct myself on previous show. We said it was in 78 and they tore it down in 2006. And you might say, well, because it wasn't, you know, cool enough anymore. Well, this lady in the New York Times as just one example wrote how cool it was and it could have should have easily been kept. And recently we recognizing how great Akashi Anbi was a similar thing. Next slide. This is the Maui Prince Hotel. In fact, what it was from the 80s. And is this shame on us? It got torn down when I was already here and I was the founding board member of Doko Momo and I didn't do nothing to prevent this. They tore this down a few years ago. I think it was 2018. And I leave it up to you guys to judge it. How does this come across to you? And this gets hold into the whole issue of, you know, hotel rooms and should you have people staying there and living there. Does it keep the way the, but I mean, pairing something like everyone talks about, you know, great energy talks about circular economy and ecology. Sorry, something both things, both places, hotels that have, you know, not even been, you know, 30 years or around it. Pairing these down. I want to have, I don't want to quiz your, I'm getting very emotional about that as you can tell. So share your emotions about it please now. Well, the Maui Prince was somewhat controversial when it was first built because it was kind of out in the middle of nowhere. And in fact, the road to get to it was very undeveloped. So there were a lot of people who complained about, you know, you're going into pristine landscape and building this, this huge concrete structure. I actually visited it at first a few times. I don't believe I stayed there, but I gave a presentation to the guests at some point. And again, what you see, which we all admire is the openness and the fact that the air flows through this. And yes, it is concrete. But at the same time, it is not a monolithic concrete monster that's entirely enclosed and uses nothing but tremendous amount of energy to keep it cool inside. So that is part of its, that's part of the appeal. But the other thing that of course we must mention too is that architecture and buildings do not exist in a vacuum. They exist for people with people, people live in them, work in them. And there are economic factors. And unfortunately, and Martin, you and I have discussed this a great deal. Economic factors will be used against buildings sometimes to justify their destruction, even if they are architecturally distinguished. And even if the whole process of demolition and rebuilding is going to consume a great deal of energy. And let's go to the next slide for that because it looks pretty good. Here's the picture that we're going to see of that, of demolition. So there are lots of reasons to preserve things. And there are lots of reasons to build things that are environmentally conscious and that also, as Martin just said, that are open to the elements that are not only safer but better and easier to live in, more pleasant to live in. And again are, and economical too. It's economically wiser to do that rather than to go through the entire process of destruction. And Martin, you and I have discussed this before, the whole, the whole concept of, well it is no longer economically viable so we must destroy it is not necessarily really the truth. There are times people have other motivations and they'll claim that money is the root of it. Well, okay, that's enough for me. Before I let you jump in, Martin, I'm just going to quickly say the sort of, the initial sort of, you know, you stepping up and trying to, and you know, immerse yourself in the thinking of the ones who wanted it go right to say it was, it was remote. Sorry, give us a break because so was the Kahala Hilton. It totally flopped when it was built. And I'm now basically retraining myself into a business person teaching a class of resort architecture with your support, your guys support and Ron's support and Don's support. So again, the people we're teaching then are the upcoming new leaders in hospitality design and we got to let them know that Kahala Hilton was saved by them by a clever manager who turned the dilemma into a virtue in reaching out to the people who love remoteness which is all the celebrities, all the royals in the world and all the movie stars who didn't want to be paparazzi in the center of Waikiki. So you just have to be smart and clever and there are other. So that's how killings were started out and with Ron they ended with Larry Stricker as the design architect who shows are out there by us about it. The Ihi Lani which is now the four seasons to really give us a break. I mean they are all talking by rebranding if there's a will as a way, but there was no there was no will here. Obviously and and how does this resonate with you. I find it Martin ironic that you see this is green architecture as people like to call it. Because what you run always did the beautiful planter trough Bella straight integrated. There is actually nature living in architecture here. So again coming back to this. This is only green on the surface and not in its substance. And I have to eat this baby here that Ethel gave me that I already had last week, because this is real the real deal. I can either that I should write. So what we see on these lanais is also real green. So I stop here and give it to you Martin. Not just just to compliment is the fact of belonging that we're also talking this in this following shows is probably a hotel where people of course there is people that have an appropriation to these hotels because they work there or because they go often every summer every every winter. Every year. But going back to the high now what is keeping the high now life is the the the people that still makes the high and the high and the the remembering and the big old belonging of a site. No, if sites really generate belonging on a community level also in an individual level. Spaces will survive. No, doesn't matter if they are made out of wood or even spaces that as a tree. No, this bunion tree that it is not a build space. It is a space it is a place that will generate a meaning for that generates meaning that implies meaning for some people. And this is what will line up the keep alive. Yeah, go to the next slide here. This is actually then. Shockingly, the proof of evidence for your theory this total that you said, you know the reasons for all this stupidity irrationality, not acting as smart as nature but stupid as human mankind, which we also said you know our agenda is responsible we are not doing the wars. We are out killing, you know, elderly and women and children currently in the Ukraine out there in the in in the Middle East. Right. We're unfortunately doing that. And it's often driven by greediness. And this is here again. We, you know, on when we try to keep our spirits up this total we say okay if you tear something down that is already really good. You've got to replace it with something even better which is really hard, but show quote at the bottom right has not happened at all with replacing Ron's beautiful Kapalua Bay. In fact, the opposite. This is what it's been replaced with this looks like a poop, you know, a piece of poop in its really most ugly way. And so that's what's there now. And they call it the it's too small but you see it there it has this weird name. My picture is too small that something with in front of Kapalua Bay the montage montage what kind of a montage what does this wants to say, well the montage is that it's not that the Kapalua Bay was a budget hotel six hotel which you don't even have here on the island right something cheap budget. No it was already a pretty high end hotel. But of course that was not enough. One is never satisfied greediness means I want more I want more I want more so what I found here now is what is now is actually the fifth law in the fifth most expensive hotels flesh resort in the world right. That's what it's all about. And it has big rooms like sweets and it has kitchens in there right so well that's what these rich people have a 1500 per night that's what people have already where they are. Why do you want that where you go right this is really absurd and obscene horrible besides all the like the great energy loss and carbon footprint you know wasting all this stuff. I think that's one of the cultural ways because again run brought tropical exotic player here. He acted like we said many times the Soto as your ancestors were thinking, and he did this as a howly that never robbed your land. I mean that that's why Ron you're I can't repeat this more often you know you are on all levels the most responsible as you So now instead of Takashi on be which you know it probably you know killed him because he died too early at the young age of 60 around that time. They actually build you know he built the the prince Maui and he probably now turns around in his grave if he sees And you know this is again architecturally there's this DeRuse architect I don't know if that pronounces the right way and he's actually you know doing architecturally versus what they did instead of you there bottom right again. He does well and he says you know if you do research he's trained as a carpenter and he does pretty you know nice crisp and and sexy things also tropical exotic. Again on the expense of tearing down things and in there also were part of the team of renovating. Larry Strikker is he he Lonnie into the four seasons now on at Corlea up there out out west right, and they, they recognize what the killings worth was so they know, but you know then they stay outdated. And that's why I think this account as an excuse because there is no such thing you got to educate the visitors first and foremost and say you know you might think this is outdated what you're staying in but instead it is vintage. And that's what we have complimented the management of the Holly Colani because that is actually the last one of the killings worth and your prime piece run where the management is smart enough to understand what vintage is, and that they can justify to the customers that it doesn't need to be renovated but just touched up to keep it fresh right. Yeah, and I was going to just say that the photographs that you showed of your field trip to Waikiki. You also show the Royal Hawaiian hotel and and that the Royal Hawaiian and Holly Colani both from the 1920s 1930s were built before air conditioning and they are both meant to be trade wind cooled and they both survived like that. Unfortunately, those those buildings have survived, which again are easy breezy. Yeah, and do we just wanted to have this show next week we're going to wrap up and we let me mainly you talk Martin but we thought we needed to make clear what we're not doing. What also one maybe should do as traffic hearing but also what some you know unfortunate legacy and some of the psyche of there in Maui might might actually be some fear being afraid of tropical exotic which again one does not have to be if the mindset is right, as Ron you have proven so well and you Takashi, not with us anymore physically but spiritually also have proven well. And I think one could have beautifully, you know, a retrofitted and maybe repurposed these these hotels, and maybe building some of their, you know greedy lust for high end luxury somewhere else for better not if you ask me but that I think this qualifies me for the course I'm supposed to teach, because I'm believing in a more cultivated capitalism and that I won't give up because again you're on. You are the hero you showed us how to do that. And we have to figure out with the emerging generation both architecturally as thanks to you Martin and then from the business side, the Tim people how to continue to do that in the future. And that we will go back to that next week in wrapping up this here and showing your fantastic proposal, Martin that I believe is that's why I threw this in in the tradition of these two projects, but differently they're still based upon a sort of a contemporary, you know mainstream paradigm of hotel rooms and stuff like that but they at least did that fairly well. I'm showing above and beyond that in a in a in a fantastic way so let's wrap this up and conclude that with your additional many thoughts on that. Sorry we didn't get you to talk about it that much today but next week it's all yours. We promise I promise because I talked the most, because I get so emotional about things alright so wrapping this up. See you next week for the final fireworks of you Martin and until then please stay exotically tropical tropical exotic as you Ron keep teaching us in the best way. Bye Ron and everyone else.