 Okay, so the latest update is that the former head of state president Edgar Chagualungu is equally in the cells, he has joined the wife in the cells and he is no longer in the waiting room, he is vowed that he is not going to leave this place until the rule of law that is so much preached about is being practiced. Right now the status is that the president is with the former head lady in the cells and age all his supporters to stand firm as the lawyers are still at post headquarters. Right now there is information that has come through that the police might even detain myself but I'm not bothered because look they kept me in Chimbokaila for 8 days, they kept me in Longhekar cells for a day. So if today again they decide to have me arrested there is no harm but I mean this country is a population of about 19 million people and the police are only about 40-50 thousand people. I think let's not make Zambia a police state. Let's not make Zambia a police state. Let the government do the right thing. If they want one of us to die along the way it's going to happen but this has become unbecoming, let the government do the right thing. If they arrest me for being here so be it. Some independent members of parliament, PF members of parliament that have been to rallies of the UPMD in Chitilawomu sympathizing with the UPMD. Why should it be a crime for me to sympathize with people that have built a relationship with over the years. So I'm waiting, should they arrest me, I'm here unlike them putting everyone in harm's way. I do not know how many more people they intend to arrest but that's a state of affairs. Women, come. Hi, have you even had anything to eat? No we haven't. President Khaboi, tell us what's the status of the former first lady in the cells and what do you make of what has happened here today. Our first and foremost we have not been allowed to see her but I think the former president has seen her. But in terms of everybody else who has come to see her they are really denying. And all these hours even President Blung was not allowed to see the wife. They have all these things whereby they are saying that they are waiting for instructions. From the local things also, instructions have been given to the point whereby she is supposed to sleep inside, she is not coming out. And our worry, no wonder we have seen that we are standing here as women. There are women from PAFIA, from SPNDC, various Scottish Papachis. We are wired as women because what we are seeing now we have never seen it before. Every time even presidents have been arrested in the past be it kawunda whoever. You see the president being arrested, not the wife. But kawunda never spent even one day in the cells. But here we are seeing a first lady all the time being followed. Madam Esther Lungu has never been political. She has never. If you buy politics in this country you can even say maybe they are political first ladies we've had where Dr. Kaseba and Maureen Manawasa, they were political you know the give statement they were doing. But for her she has always stayed away from politics. So to be going for such women that have strictly been first ladies in this country it's a very sad. And I'll say something because you the media have been following that up. If you look at Mrs. Ichilema for example another person who is not political yes but we have seen but allegations of those minds and everything her name has been mentioned twice in the media you get the point. So if you have a vengeful government after this one more vengeful than they are or even just at their level also should be followed and also something can be done you know even given an available case. But as politicians we should know where our fight should be directed to. Direct your fight to the politicians and not to the families. And with the UPND I think I've been consistent. As NGC and Savoia have been saying the UPND don't respect women. That's a message I've said several times in the media you know and we have seen right now in the arrest of women. Onariboka Tuta and they say she's in court right now. President Mawakwi and two time another woman had to come out on that. I'll say the truth. I'm in court right now. All sorts of minor allegations towards women and now the former first lady is here. Something that we've never ever seen before. So for me I appeal to President Mawakwi because he knows he touches her he's going to touch the heart of the president. I know a presenter judge as my traditional husband maybe he'll touch me up to kill cows. When you kill his cows that's when he's going to get head. That's when he'll get head. But for President Mawakwi he knows that when you touch the wife you touch the family. If you don't do that stick to the politics you know. Anyway there are many people here so let me allow other people to talk but just as I did here. Thank you. So maybe I can also say something. As a member of the Central Committee for the patriotic front and the woman what we are seeing, what we are witnessing is very very devastating to the female politicians. Not just the female politicians but also the people who have husbands who are politically active. The president, former president Lungu was denied entry to go and visit his wife. That is something that is unacceptable we've never heard of such a thing but now he's going to spend the night here to give solidarity to his wife. I hope they will allow him. We've seen the mattresses go in and the buckets and bedding for him to spend the night with the wife. What is so sad is that you are taking a domestic crime and turning it into a state activity. Why should the state police become involved in something that has happened outside the state interventions? This is very very sad and we are setting a very bad precedence because the next president who will come may wish to do the same. Is that what we want for the country? This is not about personal fight it's about the national sovereignty and the image that we are building for our country. It is most unfortunate and it should not be allowed. So the people of Zambia are seeing they know what they're going to say about this and I think it's about time that a stop was put to this. We all have to put our heads together and see how we can fight this. This is total injustice. Maid Olivia, what is the socialist party women saying about what has transpired here? Basically I think as a women from the socialist party we are so disappointed because I think from the past presentations have reached a move and it's doing the total opposite. And what is so sad to go for a form of history who is the wife of a politician? It is something that is actually not encouraging for women to join politics. For us politicians it's okay but even then even us we need to be given the eco platform and we need to be given the eco respect that they deserve but what has happened I think in the history of African politics has ever happened and President H.H. you have actually broken the record of the Zambian history where you go and arrest the first lady who never assumed office publicly was not a constitution office she was just the wife. We understand your battle is the former woman's wife really to have that woman and we are being told that they are following instructions can you instruct those men if you want let your fellow man sleep in the cells but not our man she is the former first lady that she is the mother to all of us we feel so sad and where you are President H.H. you felt it when your wife was crying but why are you doing it triple than what you were complaining about so I think to me really it is sad Zambian politics has gone to dogs that's what I can say what do you make of what has happened here today? First of all it's a sad day I must say and happening just a few days when the President was making assurances to the members of the public that people be arrested in the morning and in the afternoon they will be presented to court here we are recording history yes some of us have been available we have been arrested right left and center and we don't mind we have been available to the courts but what is happening today is the negative history in the making for the first time we have got a former first lady being arrested not recognized in our own person as a former first lady we made sure that the assurances were arranged as requested by the police we were only told that a debt stamp debt stamp was forgotten at the police headquarters up to now the debt stamp has not been found the inspector general is not available to talk to our lawyers and so the format of state has made it very clear to all of us and we are going to be with him here until we get clear answers as to why his wife should sleep here on a bondable matter and so we are with him here and if he is going to sleep here we are equally with him because it seems this is a new new way of doing things in the new dawn governance yes we have been warned about people coming for our threats I think we are valuable and if the the debris has started with the first family we are all not going to calm down and run away we are going to stick with the first family until they also come for our next because we have already been warned so in the meantime to just tell the people that the format of state the only available living format of state is here at the Ibex police station and is going to be here until we get answers as to why his wife should sleep here and he goes and sleeps in a bedroom so that's where we are we will be celebrating our freedom and look at this what is happening in Zambia where is the rule of law the rule of law and next month we will be celebrating independence our women they fought for the freedom for the women and now we are here the freedom they fought for us we are suffering we want to be enjoying our freedom but look at this man he is infringing into our freedom we are not happy as women of Zambia because we are mothers this is not right and it is not on we are going to take it on as women of Zambia it's not about quality now we are taking it as women of Zambia and the social media influence what do you make of what has happened here could it mean honestly speaking I'm here in my individual capacity but as when I say individual capacity I mean as a woman we see today as Honorable Kampiongo said it's something so unprecedented that a first lady must be behind bars on available offends really we're not trying to incite any type of violence for the country but as women as we've seen here we're not happy about the situation and honestly I'm making a serious plea to Mama Mutinta Ichilema who has always complained about justice for women this is not how you should act Mama I think that you should rise above it all if your politics are going to have to attest to something like this you should come through and be a woman and stand for a woman because this is very unfair honestly speaking Zambia let's rise up for justice for Mama Esther Chagwalungu today