 Do you know what vegan is? No, I'm not vegan, but I support your activity. Oh, sorry. Okay, good luck man. Take care. Vegan means we don't eat, use animals. We don't eat, yeah. Thank you so much. Thank you. It's the only way. Yes, thanks a lot. So we are vegan. We don't eat meat or eggs or milk from the cow. We leave them alone. Let them be. It's like vegetarian, except we don't eat eggs and cheese and dairy or use animals at all. We don't wear their skins. We don't test products on them. We don't think animals should be free to live their lives. We eat tofu, rice, pasta, vegetables, vegan meat, you know. Otherwise, yeah. That's the baby chickens, baby chickens. You know, eggs, they kill the males. The males can't lay eggs, so they kill them when they're babies. They mince them like that. And this is the gas chamber. They put the pigs in there, the gas chamber. Scary for the pig. Very scary. That's pork, so eggs, milk. Horrific, very horrible, horrible. So tofu and rice, stir fry, vegetables. Maybe fish. Only fish. No fish. No fish. Fish, the ones who don't scream. Fish feel pain, they suffer. When we put the hook in their mouth and drag them out of the ocean, they suffocate. Not good, not good. We don't have any animals. We leave animals completely alone, you know. We think that they want to live. We don't need to eat them to survive. We can be healthy without them, you know. Yeah, even if we eat, maybe you can sin. A lot, yeah, yeah. That pig doesn't have to go to the gas chamber if we don't eat it. We pay for it, you know. If we go to the shop, we say we want pork, and they go okay, they go kill a pig, they put it in the shelf. You understand? Our money makes this happen. So if we buy a tofu, who gets killed? No one. Soybeans, we eat soybeans, you know. So, yeah. Vegetarian. Yeah, vegetarian, but without the eggs or milk or, you know. Not good. Australia's not good for animals, no. All around the world, though, the same. Yeah, yeah, all the same. If we eat our animals, we have to kill. Yeah, yeah. And there's a lot of people on the planet, so we have to kill a lot of animals to feed us. We're feeding all the food to the animals, all the grain. It takes a lot of grain to feed a cow to get it big, a lot of water to grow a cow. And there's 60 billion of these animals that we eat, and there's only 7 billion of us. So if we fed all the animals' food to us, we would be no starvation. We'd have enough food that there's people starving and we're feeding cows. Do you know what I mean? If we didn't eat the cows, there'd be less of them. You know? So... Yeah, that's true, yeah. Yeah, I didn't think much about that. Because I'm not thinking much about this one. Yeah, well, me neither. I know I used to eat lots of meat. All the time, but I didn't... I just thought it was food. It looks like food. But then when you see before it turns into that food, what it looks like, what happens? Yeah. And you know, I believe in karma when you eat some violence. You put that in your body, you know? It's not good, not healthy, you know? Also, all the layer hens, when they can't lay eggs anymore, they get sent to the slaughterhouse. Animals still die, because we would argue that eggs and milk is a lot more cruelty in those products. Yeah. You know, so... So you're all hot after you get it? We're all vegan, yeah. So we don't eat any product that comes from an animal. We don't wear their skin from their bodies. We don't test products on them. We don't use them for entertainment. We think that they just deserve to be left alone and live in peace like a dog, you know? Yeah, yeah. Maybe, like, because they trust us, you know? Yeah. They trust us and we do this to them so we can eat them and we just... Well, do you still eat animals, animal foods, yeah? I eat fish sometimes. A fish, okay, yeah. See, a lot of people think that fish don't feel pain, which is understandable. I used to think the same thing. I just thought fish were like vegetables, like their food. But if we put a fish hook in their mouth and we drag them out the ocean, they suffocate. They try to escape pain, so we know that they want to live. We just don't think it's necessary. I mean, we can go vegan fish now, vegan prawns. What nationality are you guys? Hong Kong. Hong Kong. Hong Kong. I'm sure you've seen all the fake meat, the tofu meats and vegan beef and vegan... Yeah, yeah. So I think Asia has the most vegan options I've ever seen. They've got the best fake meat, best tofu. It's so easy to eat Asian food as a vegetarian vegan, you know? They're a lot more educated, I feel, about vegan options. Like, you know, tofu is massive in Asia. Like, you know, so... Yeah, but this is... All right, booklet. Yeah, okay, I already have a lot. Thanks for listening, thank you. What do you think about that? Upstairs, of course, guys. They're in on the first level. Look at you, animals. Like, the animals won't feel anything. Oh, humane. He likes to say something. Well, the industry might tell you that, that the animals don't feel anything, but we would argue that that's a lie. Well, it's gonna be worth a lot. And even if they did, we would say that the animal has an interest in living. The animal wants to live. So to take the animal's life away from it, even if we did it in a nice way, would be wrong because the animal wants to live. Like, we couldn't kill a human being nicely if we electrocuted him if we... You know what I mean? I know it, but... Yeah, actually, no problem. Wild. They're not wild. They're not wild. They're not wild. Yeah. So we breed them so we can eat them. Yeah. Do you think that makes it okay? Of course not, but... As an activist, we look at it from the animal's point of view, you know? So put yourself in their position and we want to eat you. Could we kill you nicely? The reality of most of these places is that the most humane method for killing pigs in Australia is the gas chamber. I mean, I don't think it's nice to put any living being in the gas chamber like a dog. Do you have pet dogs? No. No pets. But you don't even have to like animals to not want them to see them get hurt or killed. Well, we don't have to like other people to know that they don't deserve to be put in a gas chamber or, you know, electrocuted to death or anything like that. So, have you got a book? It's just one place. Yeah. So vegan lifestyle prevents a lot of this unnecessary violence. What do you think about it? I really like meat and eggs. Oh, me too. Oh, me too. I used to love the taste of it. But we would say like that because an animal's flesh tastes good doesn't justify killing them for it. Because it doesn't belong to us, you know. It's their body and they want to live and we can get food. Vegan food tastes the same. Not far off. Vegan chicken and vegan root milk and vegan cheese and vegan tofu beef, all vegan, you know. So there's no real reason for us to take an animal's life for it. Like, you like apple. I feel how good it is. The apple also feels good. Ah, client's feel pain? Yeah, but an apple it doesn't have a brain? Maybe, you don't know. No, we know because we can cut it open with a brain. And we know there's no nerves. So nerves, you feel pain? Yeah. And the apple it doesn't experience reality like an animal, like a like a dog does, okay. A dog and an apple. If you cut the dog, the dog will try to escape from the pain. The apple, there's no need for the apple to escape the pain because it can't feel it. That's why trees don't have legs, they can't escape pain. There's no nervous system, there's no brain, they don't scream, they don't suffer, but a pig. If I had a pig here and we hurt the pig, you would know it's hurt because it would make you feel bad. Well, the egg, all the eggs, they have to kill the male babies because they can only keep the females because they can lay eggs. So the males, they collect them all, baby chicks and they mix them up in a blender while they're still alive to kill them. And you'll see that it's upcoming so we can eat the eggs because they get rid of all the males. And every, even free range, they all kill the males. And we would still argue that keeping a chicken in a shed so they can, we can take their eggs from them isn't right. We'd say that those eggs belong to the chicken and all the chickens that lay the eggs, they get killed. So they're still all killed. Milk is the same. Who does the milk belong to? The cow, who's the milk for? The baby. Where does the baby go, do you know? Where does the baby go? They go to the meal industry. They get taken away at birth. Sometimes about a week after, the baby cow away. So the mother produces the milk, we take the milk, we take the baby. The mother's very distressed upset and the calf gets killed. We take the milk and then we're humans. We're humans. We're not baby cows. It's not natural to drink out of the breast of another animal. We have breast milk when we're a baby. When we grow up, we don't need milk. But as a vegan, you can still get milk. You can have soy milk or rice milk or almond milk. You can save lives by doing this. Actual animals and to put that if they are scared and they die and you eat that, you're eating this fear, you're eating the violence and suffering and it's not healthy for us. So something to think about. Thank you so much for listening.