 I look at Francis. Francis' journey is how many years? Two, three years, and she's going through mystical experiences and huge, expansive states of consciousness from two or three years of joining and connecting. And I think the key word is trust. You know, she did... I might share about Kangaroo Valley. We were down there. That was a big experience. And then I think the other experience up in your house, which Jason and I, both of them are huge. But some people say, what's the key to all this? Is there any key? The key is trust. I mean, it's the first characteristic of the teacher of God. And I mean trust in the spirit. If you make that link and that connection of trusting in the spirit, it's going to go rapid. The ego has got no defense. And you really hook up into your higher power to the teacher within. You had... that was your path. My path was probably 1985. So here, what are we now? How many years is it? 27. And then her path is three. So let's hear from the three. Yes, trust is the trust of the spirit. Really, trust that our analytical, logic, egoic mind doesn't know the way to freedom. So we have to let that go and trust something that is unknown to the mind. And the first, actually, was the second retreat. I had two retreats with David in Sydney, Australia, back-to-back. A six-day retreat. And then I think six weeks later, there is a 12-day retreat. So the second retreat, I had a one-on-one with David just throughout all my fear and judgment and thoughts. And then in the middle of our one-on-one session, I heard an audible voice very loud and clear, saying that David is the living representation of me. And all you need to do now is to trust David. And it was so different. I have never had experiences like that before. Just this voice was so clear to me. It's not of my egoic mind. I knew it straight away. And then watching David's character still keep talking to me. The voice was coming while I was talking to her. And I was just looking at him like... Anyway, I just continued the whole session. Then after the retreat, David and the messengers, Jason, all went to stay in my house for a few more days in Sydney. And one day Jason and I went to have some grocery shopping. And I just asked him, I said, Tell me, Jason, give it to me. What does it take? I want to go all the way. I want to go all the way to freedom. What does it take? And he said, trust. He said the same thing, trust. So I said, I heard the spirit ask me to trust David. So is that that simple? Just trust David. I feel I can trust you as well. Can that just be as simple as that? That I can relate to. Holy Spirit at that time was too abstract for me. I didn't feel I could connect with the spirit at all. I don't know what it meant to trust the spirit. But I felt I could trust David. I could trust you. And he said, yes, that is actually that simple. You can just go with that and trust. So I really just started from there. And I see David and the messengers really, they don't have their egoic motive for anything. So really what comes through is from the spirit because there is no egoic preference or goal or motive. So when I come closer and closer, I really feel the trust is developing and I can really trust David and the messengers. But really it just, the whole experience helped me connect with this inner voice because we do practice to have this connection with the Holy Spirit and follow. The more we follow, actually the clearer we listen. We can recognize this voice more and more clearly the more I follow it. And when talking about no private thoughts and no people pleasing, it is like the people pleasing is like a loop. People please because I feel unworthy of way and I want people to validate me and give me what I denied myself. I want them to approve me and tell me that they love me. So that's the motive of people pleasing. And the more I do that, it's like reinforce this inadequate self. Actually just loop around there. And how can I really realize that the Holy Spirit is inside of me and it's talking to me, it's guiding me. If I keep thinking what other people want from me and base all my behavior pattern based on what I think other people would want me to do it's just like I feel like no people pleasing is almost giving me an opportunity to really get in touch with the Spirit and to follow and give me an opportunity to see who I really am by just following that. And I also feel like no people pleasing really is almost need to be done with expression, no private thoughts because when I first started to have these no people pleasing practice I was scared that if I don't people please I would go the total opposite way of being very nasty because there somehow feels there is a hatred or anger underneath it. Or some other people will start to get really angry at me so I was scared of both sides that sort of hindered me from no people pleasing. But because we practice no private thoughts it's really just to give us permission to express when we don't seem to behave according to what we think other people would want us to do then sometimes their guilt come out or fear then I will express it just to somehow release it and I will say this is how I feel right now and then I will see there is no truth in it really what I think that's in other people's minds I actually know it's only in my mind. So my journey has been my relationship with my mother has been this no private thought no people pleasing practice really because she also doesn't hold back from me you know a lot of these past 2-3 years just telling me how she was disappointed at me and how fearful she was and how she think I was wasting my life and everything and then they give me opportunity to actually communicate with her in a way I've never been able to I really spoke from my heart telling her I think this is what I truly want God is calling me I don't feel I have an option and I actually think this is set up before I was born here so I thank you for bringing me to this world just by allowing myself to really express to her and still carry out whatever I feel I have to do what the spirit want me to do and she was saying are you abandoning me you are abandoning me you know all this back and forth of just communicating and then for me keep doing what I'm doing eventually I have experience of just following the spirit's guidance bring everybody happiness not just myself you know it brings her happiness by me following the guidance not compromising and not holding back and when I hold back when I hold back from spirit you know we're either with the spirit or with the ego when I hold back from the spirit I experience the ego emotions I experience loneliness hatred, anger you know competition and I will experience that so I have no choice I have to follow the spirit to be in alignment with that so I can extend I can extend the spirit I can extend the love over the last two years recently actually I really see the reflection back that she is actually happy and we have this real relationship very deep, very authentic very open and there is no expectation you know that her love is not dependent on what I'm doing or how I treat her that's just all going all around