 Hello, happy wiki tree challenge Wednesday. How is everyone doing this evening? Hope everyone's good. I See we have a bunch of people watching and we have as you can tell we probably have a couple faces missing But that's okay. We have some people who are here to fill in and I guess we can go ahead and start by introducing everybody who is in The stream so myself. Hello. I'm Sarah I am a wiki tree team member and then we have next to me We have Gina who is our current guest star who we're wrapping up today We're gonna give her all the goodies and surprises that we found Below me. We have Emma the team captain for Gina's week And then we have Karen who is another team captain as well not for this week, but since Mindy could make today She's offered to fill in so that's and that's everybody who's here So for those of you who don't maybe you're new to watching the stream your first time first time watching You don't know what wiki tree is. You don't know what the wiki tree challenges Let me give you a brief overview of that so Wiki tree is the community of genealogists who are all working together on a single family tree in Other words we collaborate to grow an accurate global tree that connects us all and most remarkably it's free The wiki tree challenge is our year-long event and part of our Europe Accuracy where each week a team of wiki tree years takes on a genealogy guest stars tree and Collaborates to make it more accurate and complete than it is anywhere else our goals to improve our accuracy on wiki tree add more family connections and Make more friends so That's wiki tree and the wiki tree challenge and just a reminder if any of you have any questions comments post them in the chat and we will Answer them show them when the time is right so Guess we can go on so Karen will be telling us all about our how the scoring works are How we collaborate on the wiki tree challenge and all that good stuff. That's right We enjoy getting together with new friends old friends and collaborating together Each week and this week We have had some fun working on genius tree and our main ways for keeping ourselves orderly We're pretty pretty unruly bunch, but we keep a sports sheet going with the names of the folks who are participating this week And we just know which ancestor of Gena's were working on so that we're not overwriting each other's edits. So so we keep ourselves Organized that way because everyone wants to contribute and especially in the first moments when we're kicking off the challenge We're all excited to tackle a new ancestor. So we use the sheet to note who we're editing and Then, you know, just having a static spreadsheet out there that we're editing Isn't enough collaboration for a lot of us. So we also enjoy chatting with each other on our own discord server Discord is an internet chat tool much like Slack or You know instant messenger and things that we use in our work life and Here on wikitree we we use the server and and keep a channel for each week of our challenge Where we tell each other what obstacles we're facing offer to help each other out Find out who's within striking distance of of an in-person archive Like I visited one myself this week Awesome Okay, so do you want to give a quick so we'll show the our NDPs, but do you want to give it a quick? Oh, that wasn't even updated. So we're gonna skip that slide We'll take a look at our points spreadsheet in a little while to see how we did there we go We like to make it a challenge and we like to challenge each other And so we keep track of how much activity we have on the tree and so We like to look for new ancestors and ancestors that are new to wikitree We can see in the second column there folks added ancestors that weren't already present on our tree So the ancestors and the relatives column and because it's a challenge. We give ourselves Bounty points so we give out 10 points when we find an ancestor That's new to Gina's tree that we don't see on the guests wherever we're comparing whatever Other website they might choose to use besides our favorite Will will go look at their tree and award points for folks who find new ancestors or find mistakes on on a guest tree and and Propose a new a new branch and so here we can see We have a top five team and look at that Some of us who are talking to you right now have been very busy this week So you'll see Emma and I as part of that and we have a most valuable wikitree here and this week That's great little of what and when we get into the discoveries that were made for Gina She'll start to understand why someone named love what might be the most valuable player So then let's see how many points we have overall so our total points For the whole challenge of including bounty points and ancestors created 724 so So we get the 10 pump like parents had 10 points for the bounties And then the one points when we create new ancestors or new relatives Then we have so our new direct ancestors Total we have 104 104 new well not not necessarily new just nor direct ancestors because we start off With just the great grandparents and anything we add after that that wasn't already on wikitree. We count that towards the Right, we'll see the things that are new to Gina will be More in our bounty points, right? But we love to look at our our total edits made for the week So each time someone went in and made an improvement to an ancestor or cousin or extended Relative then we have those total edits as well And then we had 310 Relatives created so nuclear relatives so any you know siblings aunts uncles all of that nuclear relatives I think just one one or I'm not sure if it's one or two, but just those nuclear relatives out So 310 of those and then bounty points. So that's when we broke a brick wall or corrected an ancestor We have 310 points that means 31 brick walls broken Gina So and then we have the all the profiles edited so unique profile edit so anything from ancestors created or Nuclear relatives or profiles already a wikitree there were 918 Unique edits to the profiles and then total edits were 3555 and this this doesn't count anything that was done on Maybe branches that went further out because people usually like to do that We also people also create free space pages or talking in g2g or on discord or anything else on the side That doesn't even count that this is just what wikitree counts for those ancestors nuclear relatives So it's kind of amazing It's a lot of work so now let's go back and Go back to our power point So we'll go ahead and start off with the filiburton lion Okay, then Emma and Karen and take it away because they know all this I First want to give a shout out to isabel rasseno who you'll see that she wasn't high on the points list because the work She was doing was a different kind of work She is I consider her our resident expert on some of the genealogy. That's way far back on Lines like back pre 1700 and she was going in and cleaning up a lot of the French ancestry that all of your French Canadian lines Went to she spent a great deal of time on that and just really cleaned up the tree and Very invaluable work and just a quick A quick fun fact those of us who are working on your French Canadian lines the three of us main ones We're all related to you We're all French Canadian Yes, and so Karen and I are ninth cousins once removed and Greg Levoix is fifth cousins once removed He said you're now his closest relative on wiki tree That's on the filibur line that he's related to you and that's part of how We were able to make a lot of progress too because he knows these families. Yeah No, we added some new ancestors for you quite a few actually on the French Canadian lines Starting with the marquee line here for I don't know how you say that the Pascal marquee and Yeah, sorry, it's really small. So I have to get really close Can I just can I just make one quick comments and I'll go where you begin So just let everyone know so the orange squares or arrows or things new and the green squares or arrows or what that was corrected So I think the first one here we actually have is Marie Let's at least at least on the at least that's the first slide I have Okay, what was the first slide did you go back a slide or where are we so this Hold on so this was we have Oscar filibur. So that is that's just a great grandparent that we're branching out from And I kind of did it. I put them in order. So the first we have Michael Let Marie Odette. So we had added new parents for Michael and some some out For for Michelle and Marie muddlin Okay, yeah, I guess you get kind of lost in all the the French Canadian people Are very similar Which is one reason we have to be very careful to get the baptism records Really dig into those original records and make sure we have the right kids with the right parents But the the big box and orange are all the new ancestors since we've added new Parents here and and you can see the blue and red Arrows at the very end on the right. That means there's more people going even further out Um, because as you probably know French the French Canadians kept very good Baptism death and marriage records. So if you know how to find those records and you can read French You can just keep on going until those records come to an end So there's quite a bit on those two lines Yeah, so what were these like they you added the The parents and then they already had lines made so then that's how we got all those ones, too Right Right and in a lot of cases that's the case because we have a very active French Canadian community on wiki tree Um, so a lot of what we did too is when we connected those lines up We went in and made sure You know, everything was correct as far as we could and that's why isabel was cleaning up Some of the stuff farther out When it got back to france, right? It seems like just like in here Um down here. We all like to you know claim European ancestors that we might or might not have It seems that we kept isabel pretty busy with you know crazy connections to French ancestors and huguenot French ancestors that that might or might not have been accurate Right And you know it gets passed around from website to website trees to trees So it's really good that and and when they're she's doing that cleanup. She's leaving notes So that those people don't get reconnected Um While we're on this line, I also wanted to mention that greg levois made a space page for you for the filibar line Actually have that here. Oh you do because it wasn't in my okay So what is that? What is this page? Yeah Basically what he did is he made some charts of some of the really cool people in your filibar line like he's got the The fiduwa Which are supposed to be really special, but they were the women who Were sponsored by the king to come over and marry Men in canada and then he's he's got some other tables on there as well for you to A little bit interesting that he put together for you this week So you've got the fiduwa and then below that there's the fee map a Um, and then I think he had some other people of interest as well You're like can't canada resident Other ancestors and like I was saying before like all this work that was put into this free space age Didn't even count towards the total edits the points. So It's awesome that our week trees are so Motivated to just make it the best that they can so and I know absolutely So that's the free space page and you'll get all this good stuff emailed to you or okay good And can I ask a question? So I know uh people looked at different sources And they cited those do they attach the documents or how does that work? No, okay Usually not because of copy because either copyright or Terms of service for the different websites. We try not to add the documents It just depends but there we try to leave a link as many many times as possible We try to use family search as much as we can because that's free and you don't have to have a paying subscription So wherever possible we were trying to and I know Karen and I were tag teaming and leaving like I would put ancestry and she would put You know one of the other websites so you had multiple gateways to get to the document Right. It seems like most of these um french canadian folks You'll see links that'll take take you straight to an image of the parish register Paris of the parish register Great. It just kind of depends on where the document is Okay, so I guess we can go on here. We add that the next Francois We have new parents for her which gave us additional ancestors As well, which continue in many cases here to continue on past pre-1700 era and then the next person is um Okay, I'm trying to remember which parent got corrected here. I think it was basile here Yes I thought it was just basile I know he had the incorrect parents connected and we got the correct ones Attached and then that gave some new ancestors there. Oh, that's right. There was a case where And on the filibur as well, there was a michelle That was correct in genus tree already where but like one who had immigrated to new bremswick Had been conflated with one who stayed in Quebec and we have Jean-Baptiste We have new parents. I think these were corrected ones Or maybe they were added. I can't remember We were elbow deep in french canadiens this week But we have all that entire orange block again our new ancestors and then the blue and red arrows take you pre 1700s So it continues on From there Wow, so most of these I'm assuming you took all the way to france. Yeah. Wow. Yeah And that's where uh, isabel was working was on the the france side of things for the most part We have a lot of new ancestors to go through jeanna I was gonna say now I'm kind of feeling tired thinking about because you know, obviously I want to go look so Well, the other thing we did the other and one reason why It shows that we added more than 400 new relatives for you this week Because we went in and not only added the Couple the ancestral couple But we were adding as many of the kids as we possibly could based on those original records Baptism records and such because that may help you lead to additional records Yeah, and as well it will also help you connect with Other cousins who may be related through those other children Absolutely That's always fun I was gonna say these people had a lot of kids So While there was no tv Yeah And I was gonna say for maybe those who aren't familiar with french canadian That they get baptized with their with usually the same name either. It's marie for the females and um Joseph Joseph so usually that's a very it can be confusing When the same similar and then particularly when people keep putting Madeleine and and louise in the middle name, which is not really the way it's conceived there You know that your name really is marie louise um And so so when we bury that in the middle name then it looks like everyone's name marie Right, but on the baptism record it always has all their names. So That's why it helps to find those original records And we're still on the french canadian so many I think that was what we mostly broke the our biggest Breakthrough was the french canadian. So so marie morrow. We had new parents for her and um, which includes A long line of ancestors and I saw that dna flag and I was like, why is there a random dna flag? So I went and checked and this is because somebody had a mitochondrial dna test done And this it ends right there at uh, french was uh, I can't think it was relay. Um, it ends at her and so It's uh, marie is not part of that mitochondrial line. So it's through one of french was other kids Interesting other french canadian Well, you know, it's funny because I had told mendy don't do the french canadians because I actually had a cousin Who did it and after I said that I realized, you know what? I don't even know if it's correct because I've never you know I've always left it alone because I thought well, you know, she did it I don't need to do it and then the other day. I thought, you know It's probably better that they do that because I have no idea if it's correct or not So yeah, and most of it was there were just a couple spots where there Some incorrect parents attached or it was a generation off for some reason Um, in other cases, we were just adding additional people on to the line So yeah, you were you were in pretty good shape and we just added a lot more kids to to the picture Well, that's exciting though because um Yeah, I mean, I'm excited I I got a chance to go to kebek a few years ago and I hope to go again soon. So this is great And then go ahead karen I'm just gonna say just the opportunity to have people Working on it to our from kebek and from yes Yeah, you know is is just so nice because I've made mistakes and parishes before where someone has said No, you're not thinking of that new v or that twilight year you're thinking of this one and and you don't understand that That's the neighboring parish, you know, absolutely. Yeah We yeah, you don't know what you don't know Exactly We we had a question about the french canadian line real quick for move on luis asked Does the row row lou spelling really change every generation? The thing it was spelling as you probably know The records will vary You'll see a different spelling depending on whoever was writing down the information And so I think what's happening is the spelling is based on whatever record was used for that person So, um It's not so much that it changes every generation. It's just maybe those are the only records that were available Or the priest who was writing out that register was quite sure that you were from the rouleau family when you were actually saying roulette and he just Knew better The handwriting on some of these records Yeah Now we're to england, aren't we wait? No, this is america. Montgomery I don't know Um, was this a correction? Yeah, the green is the ad says this was corrected the month Okay, that's right. You gave us a key on that. So we've had corrected parents for james mcgummery Um, which means that we had some changes. I think it was just in the father though Is what I thought it was I could be wrong. I was just going off my my notes when I was making boxes. I think it was just the father But we can go I can we can look at let's let's see what We can look at her change history. That's the best thing we probably do Well, I can just look at her Tree too and she had yeah, she had thomas mcgummery and a hannah Um, no thomas. Okay. It was thomas and elizabeth riddle were the original And Can you go back to the um the slide? I'm trying to go between my tabs here. Where'd we go? Um mcgummery mcgummery It helps me if I look at the original Here we go. Okay So, yeah Here we go. Okay. So it was thomas mcgummery that we have new parents for Is what happened because originally it was um a different I think it was either james or a different thomas mcgummery and a hannah Oh And so now we have james mcgummery and mary summer I think the last name summer there was still a question mark whether that was a married like a previously married name or Whether that was her maiden name and there's some research notes regarding, um that situation there And then we have some additional, um Oh, she moved on me. We have some sorry. I was just gonna go I was just gonna go show the research notes. I'm sorry I Yes, made a name probably summer but could be turner There's so there's some research notes on there as to why that was a question mark and then James has some a new set of um ancestors there for you because we've added his parents Okay, okay. Thank you robin thomas and hannah where the original is now james and mary Robin you should have come on we should have had you live and you could have talked about the mcgummery Work on these profiles. So I'm not as familiar with them. They had they had the french canadian down pat Yeah, I'm still I'm still in the french language. That's my problem. Okay, so I box So it's james mcgummery and mary summer that were were corrected and that ended up adding the robber and sara and all of that Right, right, okay And and we had a team working on those early one early wines early wines they they were really digging and trying to work on that brick wall, but um It was pretty solid this week But they did have you know, they did do quite a bit of work and probably left some good notes on there happiness, thank you and um, so james johnson we have I believe it was I'm trying to look I think it I thought it was we had a whole new set of parents for him I can add it after the fact after I made this Well, it's very possible because I know I can check I know and I was working on um Working as fast as she can to add people No, it's still just johan johansen but No new parents yet We have some research notes So we have found a first record. We did a great deal of work on this. So on the um dawn line I'll wait till you go back to it and oops since cards jen reiner's dawn got new parents cards jen Right and she's pulled a lot of records on this so you'll you'll be able to find those on the um On the profiles, uh, which is why you're gonna see some slight changes in the names because those were pulled from like the original baptism records um, so on the dawn line first of all we um Have the last name now for um, I think she was cassey dawn is what she went by when she was living in um, the united states, but um I can't even say the name is it jetchy casina dawn jelsie um so we What it's jelsie In fact, I knew uh, my great grandmother Yeah, um, yeah, so she was alive, you know when I was a little girl. So yeah, it's jelsie. It's kind of weird. Yeah Okay, so we were able to identify the last name for her mother Which then gave us the ability to go back another generation in germany and then for her father Being able to find his records. We were able to find his parents, which gave us then some additional generations as well So that was very good. Yes And there's there's quite a bit of research on those. There'll be some records and notes on those profiles Fabulous. Thank you. Yeah, tom is saying The residents books for the johnson line annoyingly didn't match any baptismal records Yeah I'll take his word for it And then and then a robin was saying about the met gummary is that they should trace back to scotland As there is a clan mutton gummary Oh, okay And i'm gonna give a quick shout out to frank who is one of our germany experts who popped in when he could to Help read records and check things out for us. Frank. Yeah, it's sick. I know I know how to pronounce that one Do we have anything else for this line or we yep, that's it on that one. Okay, I think Okay, there's we have some more germans. Yes. Um, the shoe We actually have more on the shoe marker line since you created this slide Because we have the parents of george michael shoe marker and then I can I can open his page I have I have them ready. You have them there, but they're just not box Um, the parents for martha Margarita barbara martin. I believe. Oh, they're new too. I think so Okay Oh, and it looks like on the shoe marker line, I can read arrows. They're extended here. Let's go. Let's go look Let's go look at all those shoe markers See how many more we have I'll just one at least for adam and Anna and then for Shelf blur looks like yeah, just the parents We're added so That's always exciting. You know as far back as you can get it. It's Absolutely because quite frankly, I would not have Done that because I was saying before I think you came on that. Germany is not my You know specialty. So this is fabulous Mine either so I'm pleased that we had some people who were able to find and read the records They would bring stuff into the discord chat and I'd be like, okay. I'm taking your word for it because I can't read that Exactly But I think that's where we really shine the ability to get you know, 30 40 people together who This is our idea of fun, you know is to get our german friends and english friends and irish and and french And chameleon and americans all together, you know working on one one mission and it's really When you can crowdsource stuff then you do get people who have expertise and every you know Different stuff. Whereas when you're just working by yourself, you don't have that expertise Yeah, and that's one of the beauties that I love about this week is somebody will come on the chat and say I have this record Here's what I'm thinking and somebody else will come on and say well I have this piece of information over here and let's compare and before you know it You have a full profile and new ancestors. So, yeah, very of course now we're showing off But you don't just have to be the famous Gina filibre or tega to get this kind of help, you know, I forums And you know in the messages we we send back and forth all the time that I'm I'm so always impressed with just the knowledge and the generosity of the members Definitely All right, what else do we have? I think I did this baby's the last one. Yes. Oh, that's the last Okay, yeah Didn't make it on there, but you'll get in a complete list of every all the brick walls that we broke and All the new ancestors Do you want to explain the serum? Yes. Yes. So this is Mindy's fancy-dancy brick wall chart. So she has The yellow or all of the potential brick walls that have been broken And then all of the bees are actual ones that we broke through So and there were or they're actually Or the says there's 41 on here She'll she'll we'll send you this chart as well But basically all of the yellow were the potential and the bees were the ones that we actually broke through So and just the nice little visual That we and we like to show Because of it. We did break down at least one brick wall in england that didn't get Talked about tonight. So yes, there were definitely some other ones Yes, Mindy being sick So she's better explaining this chart too. We're just all all apart without our challenge leader But we I will say that I did peek at one thing Um, and I noticed that you guys found something that I had not found and I had done Search on that person and you found an opid that I did not find so that was very exciting Which one was that? That was uh, uh, it was melinda randall Montgomery So she spent her last years in the organ state hospital Which I knew because I had gone there many years ago and researched and I had gone to the funeral home and uh, I think and I have her death certificate But the problem is and this is a good reminder is yeah, her name was melinda randall and then melinda Montgomery But she married a second time and her name was lenny bean Oh, wow. Yeah, well, I forget, you know to look under lenny because her name's melinda And uh, when I peaked and I saw that open I thought oh, that's right So that was very exciting and I think that's the beauty of having grabbed crowdsourcing as other people think differently And they're not so entrenched in this is the name You know and then different people are are have Better experience at different records like newspapers are not my go-to place because I struggle with them But we have people on our team who are wizards at newspapers and bring all these obituaries and articles To the table, which is amazing Absolutely So it was an amazing week and I just loved watching uh, how everybody worked together and all the progress We made you had some tough brick walls. I will admit But I hope that we made a little bit of progress on them Yeah, I'm excited to go through and go page by page and look and look at that french canadian stuff and um Yeah, I'm I'm really excited to look through it all so and I I meant to invite a cousin who also Is uh on one of those lines, uh, he asked me about it and now I can give him that information. So, yeah Hey, are we here to use it a fabulous job and I an awesome You know, it's not like you just got 31 new ancestors You've got the 31 plus whatever other connections were there and the siblings and the children and the so So much Yeah, well It's amazing to me that you know, however many people there were 30 or 40 who worked on this You know that you all spent a week doing this and I mean that is fabulous and I really appreciate it It's like one big party for us It's a chance to get together and play kind of But seems like some people were having some people were saying that we didn't start on time while others Said we did start on time. So I am not sure It's I'm just reading the chat. So Yeah, I know, you know, we we were going live right on the hour. So I wonder if the The Partner sites where we're viewing the stream had a delay So I it should all be recorded. So you probably you should be able to go back There might have been something that happened live So if you guys can just it's recorded so you guys can go back It didn't tell me anything on my end. It says we've been live for 37 minutes and it's 37 minutes in so But it is all recorded On facebook and on youtube. So you can watch it as many times as you want over and over again So what did we have any other questions jenna? Did you have any questions or comments or remarks? before or anybody else Well, so I'm trying to look at the chat while you're talking. So thank you donna for finding that obit. That's very exciting That might be donna. Yeah, that is wonderful. I'm so excited about that um, you know, I feel like I need to go and look and I'm probably gonna have questions afterwards. I I really do want to thank everybody. I am honored that I was chosen and this is really Uh, wonderful. So, um, I'm sure I'm gonna have questions I think I shared with uh, mendy that I'm not very good at figuring out the website. So, uh It's a block. It's a learning curve everybody. It is it is So I think it's going to be me trying to figure out and then Trying to you know, absorb all the new information and the sources and stuff Mm-hmm. Well, we we are so glad that you accepted to come on. We're honored to work on your tree I know everybody had a fabulous time. Thank you. Looking at all of that so Unless there is anything else we will probably just say goodbye. So this coming week we it is a rest week We like to give our weeky tree years a week of rest every once in a while because if we're just having them Go go go all the time So this coming week's a rest week. So Uh, you know, you know rest or just do other things on weeky tree up to you And but we will still have next wednesday. We'll have our next guest I will probably put her name event Nick I think I said that right. So she'll be our guest next week at 8 p.m I believe but keep an eye on that time. I haven't checked We have our saturday live cast every saturday at 10 a.m I know I was not there last weekend because I out of town. I didn't have internet But this saturday I will be there 10 a.m And don't forget to like subscribe tell your friends And with that we will See you next time everybody. Thank you all so much for watching