 Elisabeth Guigo, thank you for being on WPC-TV, you're the former French Minister of Justice. But I want to ask you about how you see the future of the European Union. You've been on the panel this morning with that, and obviously you have Brexit, there's a right-wing trend, a populist trend in Central and Eastern Europe. How should the EU progress? Well, first I think that Brexit can be an opportunity for the European Union, because it's beginning, we are beginning to see that of course it's a bad event for the whole of Europe, but it's a tragedy for the UK, and I hope that one day it will be possible for the UK to come back. Thanks to Mr. Trump, who said to the Europeans that they should take their own problems, tackle their own problems and manage their own destiny, I think that we will be forced to go ahead. And in my view, of course the European Union has to reinforce itself, and we have to really have a complete economic and monetary union, and we are on the good way for that. We need to develop a capacity on defence. I think the consciousness has grown, but we have to look outside of ourselves, not to be so euro-centered. And in my view, the euro pessimism, pessimism, the euro austerity comes from the fact that the European Union, which built itself on internal question, peace and prosperity, has failed to tackle the global questions that create anxiety amongst our citizens, and that in the global world this is no longer possible. So unless we do what we succeeded to do after the World War II, that is find solutions to the fears and anxieties of our citizens, but today those anxieties crystallise on what do we have a decline in Europe? Are we going to control migrations? Are we ready and can we fight terrorism? Can we have more cooperation on climate? Those are the essential questions, and I don't see how I'm sure that there is a growing consciousness that we have to work together on these questions first with Africa, and of course it remains important to work on the stability of the continent with Russia, for example, but we really have to be aware that there is the first strategic priority for Europe is now to look south, which is Africa and the Middle and Near East. Yes, because we're obviously lessen the problem of immigration, which of course becomes a populist issue in the European Union. You see it centrally in Hungary and Czech Republic, Slovakia and so on. Yes, I see what you mean. We haven't done anything on that. We have not accomplished the whole Schengen project. I negotiated the Schengen Convention, I know what's inside when we suppressed the internal borders of Europe. We also wrote that we should strengthen the control of our external borders, but even if we do that, and I think we are having progress on that, even if we do that, we very well know that the medium and long-term solution, the real solution is on development of immigration countries, and where do migrants come? They come from, of course, countries in war, like Syria, but in Iraq and Libya, of course, but they come from Africa, the problems of development in general, not only jobs, but health, but education. And so because Africa is a continent that has a lot of potentialities, I think we Europeans have to make understood that Africa is not only a problem. Those problems we have to tackle in cooperation, but Africa has a chance for you. Let me ask you a final question. You said Schengen, of course. Britain was not in the Schengen area. Eurozone integration is a great ambition and so on, but is the future of the, if you look ahead for the European Union, is it going to be a Europe of variable genre of concentric circles, multispeed, et cetera, or can it really be a one-size-fits-all Europe? No, I think we are heading towards a more differentiated Europe. I'm not talking about circles, because if you say circle, you say some are inside and some outside. I think we've got to do what we did with the Euro and Schengen, saying a few countries saying, this is what we want to do. We are open to anyone who wants and who can do what we want. And so it should be an open process. But I think, of course, we will not be able in the future to do everything at the same time. What we have to secure as a unity of Europe is respect of our values, respect of the state of law, separation of powers, which is not the case in Poland, I'm sorry, by the government, not by the Polish people. And we have to respect that. And of course, I think that there are, for the whole of the European Union, there are a few policies that can be tackled and be conducted with the whole of the Union. Certainly, energy is one, energy and climate. And Africa. Elizabeth Kigu, thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks to you.