 So this is the mesh video, I got a mesh on this car with this guy, a mesh on this car with this guy, and a little thing I learned today, you can mount these in a window by rolling them up part way, and hopefully this doesn't turn into one of those fail videos where we see the windows break. So we're going to be meshing two cars together at a distance, ouch, I ran into them here, and the shop is way over there, and they're already meshed and linked, so then we're going to hop from Marvin's car to Steve's car, and we're going to watch a YouTube video and make a phone call to show just how well these meshes work with Unify. So I have finally at the same time some of these pros and the standard Unify mesh units, and I want to do some comparison for them. So this video is one about meshing, two about the comparison between why you'd want to buy the more expensive one versus the smaller one. There's a pretty substantial size difference, spec wise, yes, they're very, very similar, but these devices, which actually are, although being rather large, have more antennas in them, but don't weigh much more than this one here, there's not a substantial weight difference. But to make sure that these don't fly off in a windstorm, they do have a much more solid mount, they are a lot heavier duty in terms of that, actually the mount itself is even metal, and I'll get you a proper review soon of this device itself on its own. So today we just want to talk about Unify, how we'll set up mesh, and a performance comparison head to head with these mounted, and I'm going to show you how we have this set up for our test bench and how our test scenario, we're actually going to spend it outside today, it's beautiful out, and then we're going to talk about how the meshing works and why you would want to mesh or why you wouldn't want to mesh and what the differences are in those configurations to help with your Wi-Fi planning. Alright, so let's start with the test scenarios here. So here's our fancy testing rig that we have outside of our office. Happens to be in front of our building are these poles, which are convenient because these are really easy to mount to the poles. So we zip-tied the AC Mesh Pro and one of the standard Unify AC Meshes right here. The tags that you see on them are the last two digits of the MAC address, that way when we're connecting and meshing I understand which one I'm connected to when I'm going over all the screenshots and that later. This is just a really easy way to do it, don't ignore the simplicity of it, but it works. So we put them at roughly the same position, but purposely we're not turning them out at the same time. Because do a subjective test, if you had them both on at the same time, you create a different issue while they're kind of fighting with each other because when you're designing a wireless network, don't put two just right next to each other, it's not necessarily going to be the ideal way to do it, so you don't want one to work against the other one or cause any interference. So we're going to test them each individually, so we'll plug in one and we're going to go all the way across the street and we'll show you the scenario there. We got to figure out exactly how long that is, I'll know before I get over there. Then we'll have the distance and we're going to do exactly the same test with both of these at that same distance across the street. So we'll unplug one, swap it to the other, plug it in so our testing share is exacting as can be. One of the problems with wireless is the little factors make a big difference in things like that. We are going across the street, so one factor we're going to have to wait is for traffic to clear. Because I did notice in the preliminary testing of stuff this video that cars cause about a 4% variance when they go by. Like in a truck, it's about 5% or 6% when they go by. You'll just watch various small dips in the Wi-Fi. Thought it was interesting. The network's the 4077. Because it's a mesh network. M-E-S-A, spider. All right, so we are here across the street and we have it connected. My link is roughly 61% on the link quality. We're measured by Wavemon, which is the tool I'm using here in this. And I'm going to do a quick ping test because one of the important things is that you have a low ping. And the reason why is because a lot of people, myself included, I like standing outside and using my phone for things like phone calls. And if you have a really high ping time, that's where you'll start having problems with the phone. So, ping-wise, we're getting no packet loss, 16 packets received, 16 packet sent, and a round trip average. Looks like it's nine. It's hard for me to see the screen here. You can see this on the edited version of the video. Now, we're going to go ahead and do a speed test as well. And right now, we're testing this on the standard Unify AC mesh. This is not the pro. So the first sample is going to be with the AC mesh. We're going to stand at the same place and actually keep the camera rolling here. And we're going to call Marvin and tell him to plug it back the other way. Now, this is a speed test across my network. So it looks like I'm averaging about five megs, five megabit back and forth across. So go ahead and call Marvin and tell him to do the switch. So now we're doing a test of the pro model. And for whatever reason, it's actually a couple percent lower on the link quality as measured by wave mine here. But let's actually do the test again. So last time, we were at 5.8, 4.5 megabits. As you see here on the screen, let's do the same test again. All right, so speed-wise, we've definitely seen a big increase here. Now, I'm still on the 2.4, as I was for both of these. So even though the link quality, as measured by the Wi-Fi device here, we actually see a little bit of a speed increase with the pro. So that is nice. And that is one of the features that they have on there. So at least we've got an now subjective me standing here between this distance, between the two devices, mounted on the same pole, inches apart, turned on and off each time. So there's your first test with the AC pro versus the standard mesh. So let's go over to the meshing part. So now we're having fun. We're going to mesh the cars together. Yes. All right, so we're in the car now. And we're across the street. And we've got Marvin over here with a mesh. Steve with a mesh and a window. Steve's stuck it in a window here. And now this is the next step in this, is making sure that this works. And I have my laptop here. And I'm going to go ahead and do a speed test. And I'm going to do a screen check. It's really hard to turn recording on and off. But the reason we're doing it in step by step. So this is a one hop mesh. This mesh that I'm in the car with, and Marvin's got another one, is doing a test. How fast are we, Steve? 30 megabytes a second, 33. 33. So we're in a pretty good distance from the shop. I'll post a distance right here, because we're going to measure it all after we do the video. So it's working. It's linked. And you can see the shop right over there. Well, you can kind of see shops way in a distance. Yeah, if it wasn't so blown out. So now what we're going to do is we're going to drive this vehicle. Marvin's going to hang out here at the party store. Tough job today, right Marvin? I know, right? I might, yeah. I might just run in and grab, you know, a little something to put in my coffee. 27.9 megabits. I looked at the transfer payload. So what is it? 27.9 megabits per second. Okay. We read the transfer payload. Yeah. Not bad. Okay. So now we know the speed at which we're linked and it's working fine. We're one hop in. Now we're going to go two hops in because we're going to leave Marvin here at the party store and we're going to go over a little further away. So it's going to hop from our office to Marvin's car because he has power in his car. And then we're going to hop it there. Now the base station is the pro, the mesh pro. And then we're, each link station are just the standard unify outdoor mesh units. All right. Let's roll, Steve. Hello. All right. We're recording and I got Marvin on a speakerphone here because we're using the VoIP system to hops out. So we've made it across. We're still getting four to five meg. Kind of depends a little bit when we move the car around here. So we're hopping from the store where it has the mesh pro to Marvin's car, which just has a standard mesh to Steve's car here, which has a standard mesh. And then we're making a phone call with Marvin. Hi, Marvin. So we've done two hops this time. Jump, jump. Two hops this time. So there's no latency. The phone works perfectly fine because I could talk about like pings and speed and all that's fun, but the ultimate is does it work? Does the latency? So yes, not only are we meshed and there's a big truck that just went between us that didn't seem to stock it. That's a big truck. Yeah, wow. Fun note that truck is a trailer, is made by one of our customers and the truck was probably delivering to one of our other customers. Fun note, anyways, not to digress, but this is kind of the proof of concept of the mesh. So how's my voice sound, Marvin? You sound fine. I mean, I don't really hear any latency or there's not much cutting out or anything. Yeah, and that's the kind of point if you didn't hear what Marvin said, he can hear me and I can hear him. And it's kind of the proof of concept of the mesh. Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? Let's pull some YouTube up on my phone too. I'm gonna hang up Marvin so I can watch YouTube. Okay. So the link speed and link that is not as a big of a deal on my system here, but we will do is pull up some YouTube. I know this great YouTube channel. They don't do wifi real well, but they have a lot of good tech tips. Oh wait, that's a different channel. But YouTube plays perfectly fine over the mesh. So we can sit here in Steve's car. Hopped twice. Whoops. Watch YouTube and full screen, 1080. It's, yeah. Okay, now it switched. Took a second to switch to 1080. So does the meshes work? Yes, do they work really, really well? I'm really impressed with them. Even the car setup that we have, which is weird, but definitely works. So it's an easy way to test the maximum potential distance. Yeah, we've pushed these right to the edge. Ideally, if you're setting these up, you're gonna have a little bit of closer than we do. And we'll put the distances and kind of give you an overview. I'm gonna do a debrief after we get back out of the car. But this is the mesh system and I'm really impressed with it. So we've now meshed the cars together and because I can actually take my laptop about another, what, two or 300 feet away from the car, I can go way over there in a parking lot somewhere with my laptop and still have it. So these things are definitely really cool. All right, let's jump to the debrief. All right, so let's start with kind of an overview of like a top-down view of how we were doing this. So this is our building. And for the very first test we did, we were standing over here by this bush. So we were standing in this parking lot right here down in a corner. And then when we got in the cars, this is when we did the speed test where I'm standing with the laptop. Then we went from here to the party store, which is kind of across the street from us, but that's being a pretty good distance here. Then that's where Marvin was parked and then we parked a vehicle over here and there's the checkers. We call it rallies if you don't know that it kind of like the same company, not that that's relevant at all. That's the fast food place that I was joking that I could walk over to and still have Wi-Fi. So we hopped it from here to here to here. And this was the Unify AC Mesh Pro and this was your Unify AC Mesh, Unify AC Mesh and me and Steve with the laptop sitting way over here in the parking lot. In case you're wondering, let me put it down a 3D view. There's that building right there and there's that building right there in the video that I was, while I'm still editing, now this is the end part of the video. This is the, so I can finish this up and wrap this up. But we are really impressed with how well these worked. Now, this comes back down to which one do you wanna buy, which one is a good decision? Well, if you start with the Mesh Pro, it has a little bit more power, more antenna, so more things can mesh to it and we were able to get better thorough put from that device. So from a planning standpoint, when you're setting these up, they make a really good choice for using as your main primary ones. They will mesh with each other. We didn't bother testing that because each one of these that we're gonna put in are gonna be hard lined in. And anytime you have an option of either a mesh network or hard line, always go hard line first. And the reason I'm saying that is because you want always a solid wire connection from the switch, from the routing equipment, the switch to the device. That's the way you're gonna get the absolute best performance. That being said, we know that's not always possible, so meshes are popular. And Unify has done a wonderful job with their mesh. The performance we had off these meshes, especially because we were at the distance greater than they had recommended for a mesh network and still able to make a phone call and we had from my phone connected to our network, then went out of our network and called Marvin on a cell phone, so I was using Zoiper for that. No latency issues. Well, there was a slight one when Marvin paused because he realized I was supposed to talk just kind of joking, teasing that he had a brain latency issue there because he was coming up with a proper joke, I guess. But these two models are great. Now, the thing that I was a bit confused about, and I'm hoping to clarify here, and these are the specs, if you wanna see the real detail, I'll leave a link here to the devices. They're all listed on Unify's website. But both of these are outdoor, both of them are waterproof. They have mesh in the name, but I don't want you to think that that's the only feature they have. They will work as standard Wi-FIs or they can mesh. And this is kind of a setup here. By the way, these will mesh too, even though they don't have mesh in the name. And this is kind of a neat thing that Unify has done with their controller software, and this is what makes it that much, just really cool design. So you get your, you know, whatever you have, whether it's the USB gateway or the Unify switch, then you have the controller software, and then this is what we were doing is a two-hop mesh. So we had one wired and connected, and it's what represented Marvin's car, and this represents the one that was in Steve's car. So now we're two hops out. And obviously you're going to lose a certain amount of speed. You have, anytime you start going over wired connections, it's not like running standard hardline copper. But even at two hops out, phone calls are working, YouTube at 1080 was working, and we were at a maximum distance. These are working really, really well. So let's talk about the Unify software and how it's configured. This is really cool. So we had, I added a couple of them to this network for the meshing, and you see the status here says connected wireless versus connected, and I know it's kind of small to read. It's, I don't think this, I guess it will kind of zoom in. Maybe that helps a little bit. It says connected wireless, connected wireless, connected. The difference is, and we were meshing these together, and how you do that, let me just sort of start over so you close it. So we're gonna take this one here. By default, they don't come this way, and you may have noticed this is not a Unify APC mesh. Just like I said, there are other devices do support it as well. So we're gonna go here to the mesh Marvin, this one that was in Marvin's car, config, wireless uplink, allow meshing to other access points. It's labeled as a beta feature, but it works really, really well. So here we're gonna allow meshing, and if you want, you can manually configure the uplink priorities and choose which device you'd prefer it to uplink as well, to as well. Now, that's actually a neat feature that way you could, if you know one's closer instead of letting it decide which one it should link to, you can do it. If not, it auto-magically does it, which I think is really cool. When you wanna program these, because out of the box, when you first provision them, they don't have that box enabled, you do still provision them the same way. So you're gonna plug them in, get them set up, adopt them into the network, and once they're adopted and networking to go into the config, wireless uplink, and turn that on, and once they're turned on and it provisions and it's fine connected, just unplug the network cable and it works, that's all you gotta do. Nothing else that needs to be done to make that work. So, pretty straightforward, works really well. Like I said, the distances we got were impressive at just how far away we were to go with those and they just, no problems at all during any of the testing, you notice this one just got unplugged. They're probably unplugging it, they don't know I'm doing a video. If you didn't notice on the very beginning of the video, I laid these all out at a desk in our tech area and they also are working in that tech area right now. So, hopefully this was helpful, give you an idea of the performance that you get with these, really impressed with them. Despite minor differences, they're both really good performers, these little ones I would probably say make great for the edge settings and mesh them to the bigger Unify AC mesh pros, but both of them excellent performance out of there. Obviously with the mesh pro, you have a few more features, you get a little bit more thorough put, go check out the specs that they have on there so you can kind of get an idea of those little details and read through all the coverage on there. But yeah, these are top notch and I may do a specific review just on the devices that take a closer look physically at them. Obviously this one also has the dual gigabit ethernet ports so you can do bridging and get even more speed than you could get out of one of these, but yeah. Top notch devices, we've done some installs, we've been doing more installs with these, this equipment is solid, definitely highly recommended and definitely fun meshing around in cars and creating a mesh of cars working and things like that. And if you're wondering, part of the fun besides the humor of doing it in a car was also because we wanted to see the distance and it was an easy way, hey, there's a power adapter in Steve's Jeep, so we just kept driving further around until we're like, it still works? And that definitely was impressive how far away we got. So, all right, hopefully you enjoyed this video and hopefully it makes sense to you. Got questions and whatnot, comments, leave them below and I'll look for more upcoming Unify videos. 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