 Yes, please come. Good afternoon, please sit down. Ms. Jain, are you working anywhere? No, sir. No? And you finished her in 2015. So, after that, 16, you were in intern. 17, you were in AMA. So, you completed your AMA. Yes. And after that, I presume you have taken the exam. Yes. So, why do we wish to join the switch service? Sir, my inclination, when I started thinking about what I wanted to do in life, I was very much interested in public services. And I realized that this is the biggest platform for public services in the country. Apart from that, since my father is an IT officer, so I had a lot of familiarity with the services, which also helped me in my decision. Very nice. So, what qualities do you possess, which would make you a good civil servant? Sir, first, I would say empathy. I believe that I am an empathetic person and it's a good important quality for a civil servant. So, analytical skills, which will, I'm sure, help me in decision making. And apart from that, sir, I think optimism would also be one. Right. You're from Tamil Nadu? No, sir. You were born there? Yes, sir. I see. Where do you live now? Sir, currently, I mean, after starting my undergrad, after that I've been in Delhi. In Delhi mostly. Yes, sir. What is the ambit of Article 19-1A, freedom of speech and expression? Sir, it gives freedom of speech and expression as a fundamental right to all the citizens of the country. And so this extends to press freedom also and also freedom of expression in art, literature, movies, etc. But, sir, at the same time we have reasonable restrictions on the basis of things like morality, public order, relations with the foreign nations and other clauses, sir. How do we regulate speech on the social media? Sir, what we currently do is, sir, we collaborate with platforms like Twitter and Facebook, etc. So if there is any content which is unconstitutional or against the provision of the IT Act 2000, then, sir, they take it down. Apart from that, sir, we don't regulate. In terms of the government doesn't directly monitor what kind of content is there on the social media. Sir, as far as press is concerned, is there regulation for the press? Sir, there is some regulation. We have the press trust of India, I believe for the press commission of India. Yes, sir, press council of India for the written journalism. And, sir, we don't have a government body for the television media, but there are self-regulatory organizations. There is a self-regulatory organization. Okay, what is rule of law? Sir, rule of law means that the law of the land applies to everybody in the nation equally, irrespective of the background of that person. Okay, there was this Me Too movement sometime back. Yes, sir. Do you think it was a failure of our laws? Why did people not involve the regular process of law and went to the social media? Sir, yes, to some extent, there was a failure of implementation of laws because these laws were unable to make people feel safe enough to make people feel that, people did not feel that law was so accessible that they could complain to the non-aggressive. Apart from that, sir, Me Too movement has been a lot about just expressing that there is a sexual harassment in the society. Rather than particular cases, they have also been there. And in those cases, sir, many people have also taken the course of the law along with the Me Too campaign on the social media. Do you list some of the laws targeted against crimes against women? Sir, there is the Sexual Harassment at Workplace Act of 2013. There is an Act for Domestic Violence, Abolition Act, and there is Act against Daughey. There is an Act for a Child Prohibition of Child Marriage also, sir. So, under POCSO, we have special provisions for sexual harassment of girls and children. So, these are the Act set. What is the same Act in the Sexual Harassment at Workplace Act? What is the mechanism? Sir, according to the Act, every organisation must have an internal complaints committee to which if a woman feels, I mean, if a woman has a complaint of sexual harassment, they can directly complain to that committee. Sir, apart from that, another Act or every organisation must also regularly create awareness campaigns against sexual harassment and include it in their training as well. And so, so that is… There is a provision for penalty as well. Yes. I mean employer. And what about visitors to that office? Are they covered? Women visitors to an office. Are they covered under that ambit… within the jurisdiction of that committee, internal committee? Sir, I am not aware of this exact… Can you tell us about… There were some changes in law post-Nirvaya and various… Nirvaya incident… Yes, sir. Are you aware of some of the changes that were… what about in law? Sir, a Nirvaya Fund was created out of which there are many schemes which are operating including the Sakhi scheme, which is basically women's centres where women can go for support, legal support, medical support, etc. So, apart from that, the laws against rape have become more stringent. Why is that, sir, even in juvenile cases of juvenile… involvement of a juvenile in sexual harassment, the age of 16 in cases will be taken, sir. When we say it is the right against self-incrimination, what do we mean by this? Sir, it means that a person will not be opposed to become a witness against himself or herself during the law custody. Okay, thank you. You've written your copies as writing. Yes. What was the last article you wrote on? Ma'am, I wrote a poem last. You wrote a poem? Yes, ma'am. So, you have had your poems or your articles published? Ma'am, I had two short stories published in the annual College Magazine of the Landhouse and apart from that now, sometimes I upload my work on my blog. So, it is informal publishing. You have a blog? Yes, ma'am. Okay. Now, painting is also hobby. What meeting do you use? Ma'am, watercolour and oil paint. You put up some exhibitions? No, ma'am. Only in school and college. I'm jogging. How does it benefit you? Ma'am, it helps me keep fit. It helps me keep my focus. And I think, ma'am, it keeps me happy throughout the day. Good. Now, you also conducted or worked as an intern for two months. Yes, ma'am. What was the work you did here? Ma'am, we worked on Nalanga University website. So, we curated the content there and how it appears on links that are posted on Facebook and other social media. We also made the students handbook for that particular year and we would interact with the international students who wanted to join Nalanga University. So, Nalanga University is only for the post-graduation studies or even point of plans? Ma'am, it is only a post-grad. A post-grad. And residential. Yes, it is residential. Now, since you've studied in Delhi and lived in Delhi for a long time, we have a number of problems related to Delhi. One of them is pollution. Can you tell me why Delhi is becoming such a polluted city, especially where air pollution is concerned? Ma'am, from what I have read from multiple sources, vehicle pollution constitutes more than 40% of the air pollution in Delhi. So, ma'am, the number of vehicles in Delhi are too high and even though we have a good public infrastructure, it is not enough to cater to the demand. Ma'am, the issue of stubble-burthing in neighboring states like Western UP, Punjab and Haldana, apart from that, ma'am, construction activities create a lot of dust in particular matter. Brickins, thermal power plants, and... And the rotas. So, what did we do to address these problems? Ma'am, firstly, I think that in the long term we should focus on transit-oriented expansion of the city. Do they have any body which looks into pollution? Ma'am, recently, a body was created. I am... There is no great tribunal? I've never done that. Yes, ma'am, that's a judicial... What does the NGT do? Ma'am, the NGT is a tribunal which has a judicial and a non-judicial number and they take up directly all those cases which are related to environment. So, what has been advised? Ma'am, they banned the incoming diesel vehicles into Delhi. There was a ban on firecrackers as well. During the peak time of pollution in winter, they also asked the Delhi government to take certain measures. And one more... What about the diesel vehicles, private diesel vehicles? Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am, that was also done by the NGT. What do you think should be done to bring down pollution levels? Can you think of any practical solution which you as a student or a resident of Delhi can do? Ma'am, there are giant air purifiers which are being employed by China. Ma'am, when you bring it in as a student, I use the word as a student. As a student, what NGT is? I am sorry, ma'am. I misunderstood the question. Ma'am, as a student, in my personal life, there would be small steps like conserving as much electricity as possible. Apart from that, in front of wherever I live, we can take water sprinkling measures so that there is possible role for personal health. Ma'am, I would advise people to use air masks during the peak hours of pollution. And awareness creation as a student can be an important thing. Now again, Delhi is not a safe city, especially for women. What steps would you suggest to make Delhi a safer place? Ma'am, can I take a moment? Yes. You studied in Miranda, so you would be aware of the problems in and around your college. So, tell me. Ma'am, should I first say the steps over the past? Yes, twice the steps that you would suggest. Ma'am, firstly, there needs to be awareness generation on mask level in Delhi because it is the attitude of the society which means you might start from the school level. Yes. Ma'am, apart from that, there needs to be better, I mean, more police monitoring, more police figures, especially at night and in sensitive areas. Women's health has been introduced in Uttar Pradesh, so that could be a good initiative. Not about streets? Yes, ma'am. CCTV cameras? CCTV cameras, lighting of the city. Yes. You are saying that the title won't do, so we teach women to... Yes, for their own safety. Ma'am, Delhi Police has a program to teach martial arts to women. All right. Thank you. Ms. Jain, have you heard of the Right to Information Act? Yes, sir. What are the objectives, primary objectives of this act? Sir, the primary objectives were to make the government more transparent and accountable, so that people... and to make it more accessible also, so that people could ask questions and get answers to them. Now tell me, have you ever used the RTI Act? No, sir. I haven't. Now, when a person seeks information from the government department, can the government department withhold some information? Yes, sir. On certain grounds, the government can... national security. There are eight grounds. Relations with foreign nations. Also, there is the plus-plus-two information, which does not have a large public interest. Business interest. Now, apart from this, does the act provide exemption to certain government organizations? Complete exemption. Can we do a review of the RTI Act? Sir, whether or not it's an act provided, but for example, judicial is not the copy of the act, right? Government? Organizations? Judiciary is... they design most of the issue, but if you recall, Yalabad High Court used to charge 500 rupees for a RTI Act. And the Supreme Court had recently given a direction saying that you cannot charge more than 15 rupees. Yes, sir. So, RTIs have been filed. It's a different matter than all many issues. They do not give a response, right? Yes. Now, the Central Information Commission, what is the role of that? Sir, it takes the appeals of all the people who fight with what we denied the submission in the RTI Act. And... Let's say, it's an appellate... what do you mean? It also works proactively in our institution about the RTI Act. Right. Now, is there any linkage between the Central Information Commission and the State Information Commission? Yes, sir. The Central Information Commission operates at the national level, state information at the state level. That's it. That is the thing. I mean, there is no subordination of the SIC to the CIS. Central Information Commission looks after the Central Government Department. The State Information Commission looks after the State Government Department. Yes, sir. Now, can a Supreme Court judge be removed? Yes, sir. Are there any grounds laid down in the Constitution? Sir, there are two grounds, two misbehavior and interpassive. Interpassive. What is the procedure which was established? Sir, a bill has to be introduced. Motion, motion. A motion has to be introduced in the Lok Sabha or the Rajasabha. In the Lok Sabha with 100 people's signatures and in the Rajasabha with 50 people's. And, sir, after that, there is a committee is created of three members which goes into the aggregations. That particular committee consists of a a jurist member, the Chief Justice of India is not implicated. And, sir, I cannot remember there is one more member. A... Chief Justice of it? State. Yes, sir. And after, if the committee is the Chief Justice of the House passes a resolution and if the resolution is passed by a special majority, then... Then he stands. Have you heard of the Malabar Naval Exercise? Yes, sir. What is that? Sir, it is a theatre level tri-lateral exercise in which India, Japan and USA participate. There is something else called the Millen Naval Exercise. What is that? Sir, can I take a moment? Sir, can I make a guess? I am not sure about this. Sir, is it with France? No, Millen is a it is a much larger Indian Ocean region countries. Yes, sir. And that is held by India. That is twice in India. And it is held by under the Andaman Naval Command. Like in June last year there were 16 countries which participated. But, the world is backed out in the last one because of the change in the government. So, there are two different exercises, right? Yes, sir. And now, Kulbushan Jadhav who was arrested by Pakistan what prompted India to appeal in the international court of justice? Sir, Kulbushan Jadhav was not given the... the Indian Council was not given access to him and he was being denied some basic rights under the law. And he was sentenced to death. So, all these three... That should have come first. He was sentenced to death. Yes. And because of that we had to move the... So, what has happened there now? Is the trial over? No, sir. It is still under being... Yeah, in fact, it is to be held... in fact, to be held tomorrow in the next couple of days for a final decision. Okay, thank you. Do you know the good governance concept? Yes, sir. World Bank gave it? Yes. What are the ingredients of it? So, the proactiveness, responsiveness, accountability, transparency. Sir, I cannot remember all the components of it right now. You know the basic structure concept? Yes, sir. As propounded in the Krishna M. Bhakti case? Yes, sir. Names are very important. Basic features of the Constitution which cannot be touched So, secularism? You think secularism is important? There are others, more important than secularism. Sir. Or greater importance. So, federalism? Federalism, federal structure. Federal structure of the world, in important. Very good. What else? So, there are many others I... Identify only the most important ones. Sir, can I take a moment? Yes, of course. So, some of the fundamental rights are part of the basic structure. Which ones? Sir, right to life and liberty. Sir. What is the article? Twenty-one sir. Very good. What else? So, freedom of speech and expression is also part of it, but with restrictions. Yes, in a way. Article 19, entire article 19 is part of it. Yes. Yes. And last, which is one more article? One more fundamental right? Equality. Yes. Very good. Article 14 and 19, 21, these are part of it. Yes. But there is still some more important features which we left out. All right. I will end it. Yes. Separation of powers. Yes. Independence of the nation. Our constitution is a combination of rigidity and flexibility. Where does the rigidity lie? Sir, rigidity, can be seen in the basic structure itself that we don't compromise with the basic structure. What else? There is one more source of rigidity. We have a single, we have a constitution, written constitution that gives rigidity to the human. Real core of the system. Sir, can I take a call? Yes. Sir, I cannot call it. Certain subjects cannot be amended in the constitution. Except when there is number one, they are required to third majority. Also, consent of 50% of the states. Yes. Others require only to third majority. Yes. And that is where the rigidity comes. The 50% states, you know, they have to consent to a change. Our constitution, our quality is a combination of federalism and unitary, unitary features. Yes. Name two most important unitary features of the constitution, of our quality. Sir, in the demarcation of the list, the residuity powers live in the centre. No. But something else? Sir, sir, I... Yes. Thank you. Sir, India is, I mean, sorry, so the states can be, the boundaries of the states can be made and remade by the parliament without any consultation with the state, so that is a unitary feature. Our emergency powers, the unitary feature. Yes, sir. It gives overwhelming power to the district centre. Yes. Yes. Emergency powers, where do they live? Article 352, Article 356, and Article 316. 316, and I shall discuss it, right? Among the three lists also, centres will will prevail if there is a conflict in concurrentness. Yes, sir. It can also make laws on the interest with the consent of the rasana. Yes. And if there are two states are willing to... Yes, are willing to do it, right? Those are the unitary features. Yes. You know, criminals have been entering politics and Supreme Court has been trying to bar them from politics. Yes. There was a landmark judgment in 2013. Are you aware of this statement? Are you aware of it? Do you know what it did? What was the effect of this verdict? Sir, it banned those politicians who had been convicted of offenses with more than two years of punishment from contesting in the elections. No. It barred them immediately. Immediately. Otherwise, the previous law permitted them three months time to appeal, etc. Yes, sir. Supreme Court said, no. That law is investigational. They will be barred at once. Some important issue. UP is your choice, first choice. Yes, sir. Why UP? Why not deadly pattern? Sir, I have woken up in UP. This is my school diagram. Then you tell me two most very important issues of UP when they were forced to be imported. So, that is a good case. Good. So, Second, 1100 police accounts. Yes, sir. So, I was actually not aware whether there is a case or whether the Supreme Court had to actively sent or I did not mention it. Yes, sir. Supreme Court has sent a notice to the UP. Yes. NDA has launched a number of major schemes. Name two schemes which you consider flagship programs. Two schemes, think very carefully and then answer. So, what I would say is the Ujwala scheme. Excellent Ujwala. And so, second would be baby buttocks or baby buttocks because it is we have seen remarkable improvement. It is quite good but financially including the schemes have done much better. Now, what was your subject in MA literature? Period but you reported this to be basic or romantic. So, all of it, sir. All of it. So, we started to Who is your favorite author? So, I have many but if I had to name one, I would say Virginia Bull. So, she don'tness is always so. That is your favorite name? Yes, sir. Who has written these lines? I am reading some lines. The snail is on the form. Lord is in his heaven. All his life with the world. I will start from the beginning and then if you will. The season is at the spring. The day is at the morning. The morning is at 7. The dew is the leaf is dew but. Sir, I am not sure but it seems like Shakespeare. No, Robert Brown. Yes. The past song famous word and who has written this? I wonder lonely as a club that's boards on high or hills and veils and all at once I saw a host of golden daffodils. Sir, William Bordsman. What's the name of the phone? Daffodil. All right, we close the interview. The view is on 15th of March. So, you might call most of now. By large, you might be able to handle it nicely in this interview. There are certain areas where I wish to say that you should strengthen your knowledge. Yes, sir. But since English literature happens to dominate your daff. Yes, sir. Then also you took it as a important writer. Just brush up your knowledge. Yes, sir. Which you should be able to do in 10-15 days. Yes, sir. Secondly, you are from Delhi. So, get your lot of data on Delhi. For instance, what is the relationship between left-hand governor and Delhi administration? 239 W.A. article of the Constitution. Yes, sir. Then two Supreme Court judgments are the same relationship. Two Supreme Court judgments. Last year, one came recently. Yes, sir. A few days. Leader of those. Yes, sir. Then pollution is a very serious problem. What has been done to protect pollution in Delhi? Yes, sir. In this, I will give you a little this. I can give you a little help about this. You can take a look and leave it outside. Yes, sir. This will give you some of the judgments important and reassuring. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. What have you done? Then like Delhi saved Delhi for women. What is being done? You were asked a number of questions on Nirmaya, Hosni Nirmaya, etc. There can be a question. What happened to the Nirmaya fund? Then what is the situation as the situation about women's safety proved or not? Now this is the last report of 2016 which says most of the crime against women remains either under investigation or conviction rate is very poor. So you can quote those statements. Yes. Similarly about children like you were saying about oxoids. Yes, sir. So that also you will get from NCRP. Yes, sir. Then you must know some important principles, constitutional principles like basic structure. Our rigid constitution is rigid of flexible, unitary or federal. Yes, sir. Then a few important judgments like Nenka Gandhi judgment, Neelay Thomas judgment, etc. Good governance cards are considered. Yes, sir. U.P. I passed you only two but supposing they want to ask a little more about U.P. You live in Noida. No, sir. No, sir. No, sir. I live in Delhi currently. Yes, sir. I did my schooling till 12. All right. I missed it. I missed it sometimes. So these are the and lastly your say police martial arts. Yes, sir. Now they can ask you what are these arts? What is their practical utility? Whether it should be promoted or not promoted? So you should be able to hold your ground and say yes, why it is useful? You see these things are and then writing, playing, painting, etc. All this become a subject for Christians. Christians are interested in religious paintings. Names of painters are you fond of Netscape or Portrait or Cubism or you know yes, sir. Whatever art you fond of. So on that you should know some authorities. Yes, sir. Sitna Kareng or Kareng affairs Kareng or Kareng or Kareng or Kareng or Kareng or Kareng Yes. What now? Ah Ah This should have an hilichatt This should have an hilichatt as well. Mr. Srree Shall I make it up? Sir, should I make it up? Ah Ah Don't forget to like share and subscribe to our And press the bell Icon to never miss an update