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So there is a story on there at the moment about David Ancelotti, who has been like the forgotten man of Carlo Ancelotti's new reign at Everton, obviously lots of talk about Carlo himself, lots of talk about Duncan Ferguson because obviously that's what we all hoped for, we all hoped he'd become the assistant manager but David is also one of the assistants and has sort of just gone under the radar a little bit, has he? The answer to that is yes. Okay, fair enough, just asking you, you've asked me, I'm just asking you, has he gone under the radar? Yeah, he's been obviously with Carlo at Real Madrid, he's with Carlo at Bayern Munich, with Carlo at Napoli, this is 30 years of age, obviously hasn't been a successful Premier League footballer, or a successful top league footballer like his dad was rather in Serie A or whatever, he's took a coaching route, obviously being around Carlo for a number of years and seeing his dad working at these top clubs managing and got the bug for it, you know, helping his dad from a young age just picking up things and took his coaching badges, you know, and he's got a UEFA B licence, a UEFA A licence, top of the class I think in both of those, you know, scored highly, so just a fellow who's very experienced being around some top clubs, top players, top players, you know, Real Madrid outstanding when Ronaldo was there and, you know, one of the decimidated names when Antielotti was there, so very successful and he's come into everything now, you know, and like you say, he's one of the assistant managers alongside Duncan Ferguson and by all accounts, I've settled in really well with the club and players kind of like him, I think I've seen something saying that Duncan Ferguson would give me a seal of approval, so that was a big thing for everybody there who may be a bit wary of this fellow coming in with his dad You know, I was going to get the nepotism shots and of course, you know, there might be some validity in that in terms of he's been given a leg up, so to speak, because of his dad, but listen anyway in the world, nepotism can rain, it can be in any industry and the fact is he's a coach in his own right, he's a qualified coach, how far he goes in the game will be determined with how well he does, how he continues to develop, it's one thing having only the technical side, you know, and the academic side of coaching, can you get your point across to the players and, you know, he's worked at those big clubs and he seems to be doing okay? I think from the nepotism point of view, I think obviously it will be seen as a negative for some people, but for me I can only see it as a positive because, you know, he's been around those other clubs, Carlos seems to want to surround himself with maybe not the traditional way of having coaches where it's like, you know, you have your assistant manager and then you have like a couple of first team coaches, he's obviously put him as one of his assistants and Duncan one of his assistants and that to me makes perfect sense because obviously with Duncan you're getting the tradition of the club and this is something that Carlo Antolotti says that, you know, he likes to have something that he did when he went to Chelsea, you know, when he went to Chelsea the first thing they asked him to do was hold off on the coaching staff, they said we've got good people here, we just want to bring you in given a month and he enjoyed having, you know, having those people in with them who knew about the players that were already there, were already good coaches as well, Ray Wilkins? Ray Wilkins, obviously right next on there, obviously spoke Italian as well, that would help, knew the players, knew this addition which is a big how to do things and not to do things and you know, we know about what Duncan has done and Duncan taking them out, you know, for a meal and for a drink and stuff like that, but I think having a son there as well is really important. Just from the point of settling into the club, having someone right straight away you can trust at the club, someone you can just talk to every day, just whether they'd be picking up the phone or in the same building as you, and going through that journey with someone from the start and when you, okay, listen, a lot of coaches come in, managers coaches come in and bring their own staff with them and that is beneficial, but sometimes maybe it pushes, well, we know, we know it pushed Duncan Figgs and knows how to place when, you know, Michael Silver was here because it was almost like a little, you know, little group of little clique away, whereas because Davy is working with Duncan and stuff, it's more, for me, feels more integrated. And as you mentioned there, this fella has worked with some of the best players in the world. You know, if that's one of the best coaches we'll have seen, okay, he hasn't become a player, but we've seen in the last few years a generation of coaches who weren't players at the highest level, who weren't fantastic, fantastic, amazing players, you know, Ars and Wenger and Merino, two, that's been to mine straight away, weren't necessarily players, but they were students of the game. He understood, you know, so while other players were playing the game. Clock played, but he wasn't a top player. No, he wasn't, and he'd become a student of the game and I think that's important as well, understanding the psyche of players. So, for me, you know, I think, you know, Cos Carlo himself is such a good coach and has been such a good manager. I think, you know, he can only lay in off his dad and become a top coach in his own right. Yeah, definitely. You hope to take everything little bits and pieces that you learn from every coach with you and develop on your journey, if you like, as a coach. Working with top players from that young age, seeing how they behave, gives you that education, gives you that experience, that when you move on to other clubs, you can then judge those players by the standards of top players. Someone had to work with Cristiano Ronaldo. Somebody's gone and worked with, like, Zlewandowski at Bayern and James Rodriguez when he was there and, you know, Thomas Muller and lots of players like that. Reiland's had littered with them. Gone and worked with people at Napoli, you know, good players at over at Napoli, Culebarli, and Allen, Zeilanski, you know, good players, Fabian Ruiz, you know, all good footballers in their own right. You know, he's a modern coach as well. I think, Evan, I've got almost got the perfect mix, if you like. You've got Carlo Ancelotti, who's one of the, if not the most decorated manager, certainly one of the top managers in Welsh football, he's 60. And then you've got Duncan Ferguson, he's 48, he's a good age, you know, Premier League experience coach for the last six years, worked with Premier League football, he's had a few games in charge as well, he's played in the Premier League as well. And then you've got David, who's 30, who was younger again, you know, and half the age of his dad and bring, you know, these new coaching methods. And if you can kind of mash it all together, you've almost got a perfect mix. And then just building on what you said, having his son here, and he's come over, he's also got his son in law here, of course, who's the fitness fella, because, you know, which means his daughter's over here. Then that's a massive thing as well for someone coming in, a new manager coming into the area. You know, there's been a lot of top clubs, probably wouldn't have been an issue for Carlo anyway because of the way he is, but to have those family members here with him, it means it's very easy to settle it. But it's not, you're not going to get like, say, sari situation at Chelsea when he was like missing home and he was just wanting to go back and, you know, you're not getting marino in a hotel in the lorry for two years while his family are in London and, you know, silver, Michael Silver back to Portugal every week or every other week for a weekend. You know, the games finished on the plane home. You know, you're not getting that cumin, you know, couldn't wait to get to his villa. I don't think that was to see his family, just think. No. You're ever as a man. Or else me a post, you know, we didn't like his house that much. So, the thing with Anciolotti is he's very quickly coming. We've seen him round the city, we've seen him in Buton Newstrand. Well, that's the key. That's the cultural hub of the city. And we've seen him on Crosby Beach going for walks and looking at Anthony Gordon, his tattoos and all that. They're all, he's got his house, he's settled. And these will have helped that and be part of that as well. And the article says, you know, like you said before, he's well respected now and everything. People feel like he's got the club. He's like his dad, he's approachable. There hasn't been a barrier. They've all gone in and just been down to earth. This is what the article's saying. They've been quite down to earth and just gone on with it. And even, you know, we've seen the first game when everything's good and he jumps off the bench and he's jumped on the back of his dad and Carlo looks as if he's going social distancing please as he's swinging off his eyebrow. But that's good because it gives you that, it gives supporters that thing of like, they're really, they bought into it immediately, they want to do well and they'll want to do, of course they'll want to do well. And this fella eventually will want to be a head coach. He's, what does dad do it? He's not going to just want to be an assistant. I'm saying he'll want to be a head coach at Evan, maybe he will in the future, I don't know. But he's the hunger and the desire is there and it's there because he's got himself in that position. Okay, his dad might have given him a leg up, but he's had to get the qualifications and they're not easy to get. And he's, like we've just said, he's coached a lot of the troff, he's coached a lot of the troff players and our players seem to like him as well. So it seems to be, you know, all working. Yeah, it's not easy to be a coach and it's saying it can't be easy when your dad is who he is and then you've got, you throw in that thing of, you know, did he get this job because his dad is the manager? So it's not easy and it's not easy if you haven't played the games, played the game either because players will, you know, will hold you to that or you've, you've chose your medals, what have you done? But I think because he is sort of 30 and he is around the same ages, some of it like the senior players, some of the younger players will look at him probably and look at him and go, well, you're not that old. So you're in and around your understand. Something that, and it's funny because it's just literally sprung into my head now. And it was something that got said that like the Howard's way, Premier when we were there and they brought John Clincard on and he said, well, he was the same ages as he was a physio. He was, he was all quite new, this physio thing. He was the same ages and he liked going out for a bevy with us and that kind of, you know, but the point being was it was, he was one of us. He wasn't like this half fellow or whatever who just, he said, they were like, he's one of us and they still have that thing, he's part of, they accepted him as part of the team, you know, because he was one of them. And I think that maybe that could be something with this as well is that with him being that age, the younger players will look at him and go, well, he's not that old. And the players around the, you know, as I said, the more senior players will probably can talk to him on the same level, you know, kids the same age, moving from countries, that kind of thing. A lot of players will look at that and identify that as what they've had to go through. And that all helps, that all helps humanise people at all, you know, because he is a coach. He is, and this is where it becomes quite, this is where it does become quite funny though, because obviously I wonder whether Carlos had to listen to me. Carlos looks like the most approachable man in the world. He looks so nice. He looks like he, you know, could be your granddad. But obviously that's not going to work if you're a manager. But when you listen to what people say about him, where he's only after games, he doesn't say much to the players. He leaves them to do it and comes back a couple of days later when whatever's settled is settled. And I just wonder what that relationship is like with players. Sometimes we might look at him going, well, you'll be the snitch, you'll be the grass. So that could be slightly worrying, but at the same time I suppose you've just got to drop that barrier and just letting... Well, that was what was levelled at Napoli, I think. I think it was Napoli. Players didn't feel like they could have gone to him if they've had an issue with Carlos, because obviously it's a son. But we've got Duncan there, haven't we? And so you'd like to think that the players would go to Duncan or one of the physios or whatever, do you know what I mean? I know Carlos got his own team, but then you could have that with anyone. That's where people trust, isn't it? That's where people are just looking for something. And I always think that if anyone does go to a coach, they're still trying to get to the manager, but they're just trying to do it in a softened way. Or can you have a way to do it about this? I don't really feel comfortable going in and out on his door. And people talk about Howard Kendall and Colin Harvey, a lot of people say it didn't click into place with Howard till Colin come. And a lot of people say, well, Colin Harvey was the barrier, but also Karen Harvey was horrible on the training ground. Horrible, ruthless, and Howard Kendall stood back and let him... And that was the thing that whipped a lot of people into shape, so it can work in a lot of different ways. It just seems to be something that works for certainly Carlos or as recently, and as you said before, I think the fact that that team now seems to all be together and the backroom staff, there's a group he trusts, he's obviously got a son-in-law as well. And so having your son-in-law and your son, that means your daughter's happy, means your grandkids are happy. You're all in the same place. You're going to the same... You're going to share those experiences, whether it be of your home life or where you go out, restaurants and all. And you know what? Those things are so important in getting a manager. Like you just said it, you don't want to see your manager at any opportunity jumping on a plane to go back to his family. You do not want to see that. It's not good for anyone, I don't think. These managers you go, yeah, I'm going to go over. No, you've got to come lock, stock and barrel. You've got to bring your kids. You've got to... And I understand the idea, you know, we don't want to uproot my kids and uproot my family for a couple of years or I'll go and work here and I'll go back. And that's not just football. That happens in all kinds of industries. But I think for football, there's been some football managers who say, well, I like that because football is so all-encompassing. I'd rather my family might as well be in a different country for the amount I'm going to see them, but you just wonder how long that can last and how much of a strain that takes. I don't want the distraction. You don't want the... You want them to feel settled. That's the biggest thing. You can get your manager settled and then he buys into it and then the family buys into it. Then you're all in it together, aren't you? It's not a case of does he really want to be here? It's just a stopgap for him. And I think that Carlo's kind of proved that he does want to be here. And I also think that helped us get Carlo in the first place because, you know, Carlo's just left the job in Italy and it's like, I'm going on holiday and I'll come back next year. Obviously I haven't spoken to him, but having that support network must have made his decision easy for him to say, no, I'll just go back to England. It's fine. I go to a city I've never been to, never lived in, you know, because I'll have that support. I'll bring me son. I'll bring me son, Lord. I'll bring me, you know, that means all the families coming. So there'll be no problem. So that must have made the decision a lot easier for him. Oh, yeah, because then he hasn't got to go and take six months off, which is the plan. He's going to go back to get his house in Canada with his wife who's obviously Canadian and he was going to live there for a bit. And he was going to recharge the batteries, but he wanted to get straight back in it and he will have spoke to them and I'm quite sure they were like, yeah, let's do it. Let's get into the Premier League, let's all come over together and have a new adventure. And obviously it's been curtailed by what's going on at the moment, but, you know, bar in the Chelsea game, the sounds were quite good really. I know we've had a couple of setbacks. It's always going to get the bumps in the road because it's the same team that was getting spanked in the Derby match and losing an injury time against Leicester and stuff before Christmas. So no one's using it, you know, so it's a case now of whenever it starts again and it could potentially be due, now be I close those, then we'll see what happens. But going forward, it looks good. Let's open. It carries on, but in terms of, you know, we've got the bit between his teeth. He's a young man. He's very ambitious as well. And it just looks a nice little setup on the coaching side. So we all, as we can do, is put our faith in it and hope that it works. But yeah, there you go. Yeah, if you want to check that out, that article out, make sure you go over to the athletic. 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