 Okay, we'll call the order of the September 15th, 2020 meeting of the Sheboyton County Board. Are we certified in compliance with the open meeting law? We are. The agenda was posted on September 11th at 3 p.m. Next item of business is the Pledge of Allegiance. Next item of business is a roll call. There are 25 supervisors present. Very good. Next item of business is the approval of the August 18, 2020 Journal. Supervisor Abler. I'll make a motion that we prove the August 18th Journal, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Supervisor Abler. Supervisor Hoffman. I will second that motion. Thank you, Supervisor Hoffman. Under discussion? Seeing no discussion, we will take a vote. Supervisor Smith. That motion is approved unanimously. Next is presentations. We have Deidre Martinez from the Chamber of Commerce, Executive Director, and Starr Grossman, Public Health Officer, giving update on COVID. Good evening, everybody. Thank you so much for allowing me to speak for a little while this afternoon or this evening. I'm just going to spend a little bit of time kind of going through what our current picture looks like related to COVID in our community, unpack our benchmark criteria a little bit for the community and for the people that are here and then talk about the great partnerships that we've been able to develop through this process. This graphic hopefully looks familiar to you. We do release this every Monday through Friday from our office and we also have a daily update that goes out via email if that's something that people are interested in getting. So if you're not familiar with it, please follow us so that you can see and be more up to date about what we're seeing locally. This is actually yesterday's numbers, but we do have just over 1200 cases locally that have been confirmed. 54 cases came over the weekend and into Monday actually we had 30 cases yesterday. This is a fairly busy day for our office. We have 124 people who are actively ill at this time and 10 deaths and actually today we did add two more deaths to our death count. So our total is at 12 there. And then related to hospitalizations, we have seen a uptick in hospitalizations lately. I don't know for those who have been following closely. We were averaging 2 to 3 people in the hospital at a time for quite a while and our current hospitalization is at 9 earlier this week. It was at 13 which was kind of the highest that we've seen it thus far. And we have been hearing from our hospital systems that they're seeing an uptick in people representing with respiratory illness. So what does that all mean and why do we do this benchmark criteria and kind of share these metrics? So as people are likely aware in this room, shortly after the safer at home order was overturned, we were faced as a local community with trying to find a way to help people make decisions about what they're going to do day to day and keep the community safe. So as a result of that, we used a lot of different models and pulled together a lot of different metrics for how we could give recommendation to the community and we settled on these benchmark criteria which we release and update every week on Friday. So this is last Friday's benchmark criteria update. As you can see, our cases and activity level continue to be red. Cases is a state level metric. So that's looking at the state as a whole. Is the percent positive cases? Is it trending up? And that's consistently been read for quite some time. And then activity level is specific to Sheboygan County. It's looking at our burden and our trajectory. So what is our case burden locally and then where is our trajectory or where are we going? Are we trending up with cases? Are trending down or staying the same? This last week, our trajectory, we did not trend up, but we do still continue to have a high burden and we're not seeing a decline in our trajectory. Related to testing, over the last couple weeks, our testing capacity locally has decreased. We are seeing some of our larger systems not able to test or able to test very small populations. So we had, at one time, we had Aurora was able to do community testing. They've had to take a step back from that and are able only to test very specific people who made specific criteria at this point. We do have some community testing, but it's just limited in scope. So that's why that is a proceed with caution because that testing is not as robust as we'd like to see it locally. And we've been trying to work with our partners to increase that testing capacity. Related to care, even though our hospital systems have seen more cases recently, they are continuing to let us know that they are able to manage the cases that they're seeing. So that continues to be green, but we do connect with them daily to see where they're at with their case counts and how they're doing related to ICU beds and those types of things. PPE continues to be yellow, and we work really closely with emergency management to try and make sure that all of our health systems have the PPE that they need to safely care for people who are ill. And then related to tracing, that metric is specific to public health. That is our ability to follow up with confirmed positive cases or contacts to confirmed positive cases within a 24 hour or 48 hour period. And a green color there means that we're able to do that 90% of the time within that 24 hour time span. So if you had been following along a couple weeks ago that was in the red, we were able to onboard a bunch of limited term employees who are helping us with our contact tracing and they're doing a phenomenal job. And so we're really glad to see that metric in the green. That allows us to follow up more quickly in the community. I get these questions a lot, like why did we choose these benchmark criteria? So I thought I would just kind of lay out why we use this to kind of guide decision making locally. Related to cases, certainly if we see more cases locally that's going to increase the chance that someone's going to come across someone else with COVID within the community. Certainly it has an impact on local businesses and schools and families because as the cases rise the chance of being exposed also increases in the community. Related to testing, if we don't have testing available it becomes harder to identify outbreaks and keep people safe and keep people who are sick home especially since this can present with very mild illness or no symptoms in some people. Related to care, I also get this question quite frequently. What is our local picture related to care in our hospitals? So we do have 12 ICU beds locally within our health systems and we have 22 COVID dedicated medical surgical beds. So those are beds that they've set aside specifically for COVID patients and they try and quarantine COVID patients in one part of the hospital in order to prevent spread within the hospital system so they try and keep stacking around those patients limited. So that's what we have locally. That's our local capacity. Our hospital systems indicate that if 50% of our ICU beds or 50% of our COVID dedicated medical surgical beds were full that that would be a cause for concern for them related to their ability to continue to provide service at the level that they're doing right now. So as I mentioned we do connect with our hospital systems daily to try and figure out where they're at with that. For PPE, Steve does a fantastic job. Steve and Bernie do a fantastic job of managing our stockpile for PPE and they help connect our health systems with the PPE that they need when there's need of it. That includes our long-term care facilities when there's an outbreak. And then related to contacts, we do follow up like I said within 24 hours or we attempt follow up within 24 hours for positive cases. Delays in that follow up means a delay in our ability to keep people that should be home. And so there's an increased risk that that person may continue to be out in the community, continue to be at work or school and then can spread the infection to other people. So all of those pieces kind of as a collective picture help give us a better understanding of where we're at locally. So this is probably my favorite slide of all the things I'm going to talk about today and that's our local public health partnerships. We certainly could not do all the work that we've done over the last six months alone. We've been really, really lucky in Sheboygan County to work with such a collaborative community and I am so appreciative of all the amazing people that we have in this community that have pulled together and are doing the best that they can to keep others safe. We do meet regularly. We meet weekly with all of our long-term care and assisted living partners and provide guidance and resources to them and we partner with them. We meet weekly with our school systems and have been working with them very closely as school has started. We've already seen a half dozen or more cases within school since school has started. So certainly have been really working with them closely to keep students safe and in school as much as possible. We work, like I said, weekly with our healthcare providers and local businesses. We do a chamber call weekly with our local businesses to provide guidance on how they can best prevent the spread within their business and also keep their employees and their customers safe. So we do a lot of work with our community at large to try and make sure that everyone has the tools that they need in order to keep each other safe. So I think that out of all the work that we do, some of that collaboration has been the most effective in helping curb the spread of infection within our community. So I have to put my community health, public health hat on before I close. I have to always say, like, what can you do to prevent the spread of COVID-19? So I'm going to just use my public health hat a little bit here and go through some of the things and you probably already heard them. So please excuse me if you've heard this all before, but certainly as a community, if we all work together to support practices that prevent spread such as masking, physical distancing and hand washing and staying home when we're sick, those are some of the key things that we can do to keep others safe, keep our family safe and our community functioning healthily. Partnering with our public health partners when we are doing contact tracing efforts, we have to reach out to every person who has a positive test and we reach out to all their contacts. So certainly the more collaboration that we can have with community members who are experiencing a positive test so that we can make sure that we can keep them home and give them guidance about how to best care for their family. So partnering on that, staying aware of our local picture, so if you haven't already signed up for our newsletter or our daily updates, please do so and sharing those credible resources. We have a lot of good resources on our county webpage related to COVID and then certainly leading by example and promoting community wellness to protect vulnerable members of our community. I think everyone in this room is a leader and we all have a responsibility to lead by example as much as we can to protect others. So I so much appreciate the opportunity to talk today and I'm going to actually transition over to Deidra who's going to speak a little bit about our partnership. Hello there. I am Deidra Martinez, the executive director with the Shamblagon County Chamber of Commerce. Thank you, Star, and really thank you to our division of public health for the continued partnership and collaboration. We certainly would not be in the good space in comparison to other communities that we are today without that partnership. So as we fell into this pandemic mode back in March like most people, the Shamblagon County Chamber of Commerce didn't know how to navigate the pandemic, how we could better support our businesses and what we really had to do was take a step back where our businesses were experiencing the hardships that they were experiencing, the fears they were experiencing, the to help them better under, get a better space available for communication and information that is true and honest and transparent and verified. So we began reaching out to both our members and non-members alike. We felt that it was appropriate at that time to not limit it to chamber members, all businesses throughout the county as we needed all of them to be successful at the end of the day. So we began a series of surveys and one of the things that I thought was very interesting when we look at April 2020. So this is just a couple weeks after the shutdown, this survey was conducted and at that time the number one concern that keeps our businesses, business owners, employees, employers up at night about the health and well-being of their staff. Now, we fast forward that to August 2020 and surprisingly, even though we've learned a lot about the virus, we've learned a lot about how to navigate it, certainly better than we knew back in March or April and continue even in August to have the same number one concern. So our businesses, our employers, their employees continue to be concerned about the health and well-being of their communities and how does that affect us? So, I'm not here to debate, I am not a medical professional I am not a public health person but what it does tell me is that regardless of being open, being shut down, moving forward, not moving forward that our communities do not have the confidence that they need to get out and patronize our businesses and it's important because regardless if your business is open and if people are not walking into your store front or your restaurant and they're not buying your product you are not making ends meet and you are not where you need to be. So I think it's very important that we take that into consideration as we're continuing to navigate this. With that information that's kind of where the partnership and collaboration with Public Health began we wanted to find some ways to begin to build that confidence with our businesses to give them an opportunity to have real-time conversations to ask questions to get answers in real-time to ease the unknowns so on and so forth. So we started a weekly conversation that was again open to members and non-members alike we averaged at the initial onset our numbers were significantly higher probably more 60 to 70 per week now there are about 40 to 50 live participants each session and we've moved it to every other week but what we have also found is that recordings so we record this we offer this make this available also to anybody on our social media as well as our website and our recordings average 2000 plus views via social media and website after each session. So again people are interested in this information they want to know what's going on they want a trusted source to turn to I thought some other things that would be interesting to share what relates to the business community staffing changes in April of 2020 from a couple weeks after the initial shutdown we saw almost 44% stayed the same and 6.5% of businesses saw an increase in workforce or demand so when we look at other communities where the whole world shut down and people lost their jobs and they were in dire straits I'm so pleased to report that that is not experienced necessarily in Sheboygan we moved that to August 2020 all businesses have been open for months and again almost 42% have stayed the same as it relates to their staffing and over 19% of our businesses in the county have seen an increase in workforce demands so again our people it's not perfect we're certainly not at 100% but we are in a really good space in comparison to other parts of the nation and the world we also looked at sales in April of 2020 and clearly in April 2020 everything was shut down and it was really hard to do much of anything sales decreased significantly for obvious reasons almost 70% of our businesses reported a decrease in sales at that time I'm happy to report that as we've moved into August we're seeing the rise in numbers is now down to about 50% or 57% decrease in sales so we certainly have a lot of work to do we are not anywhere where we need to be a lot of our businesses are doing well but they need our continued support and it is vitally important that we keep our communities healthy that we also build consumer confidence again if they don't feel comfortable leaving their home and patronizing a business they're not going to buy your products or services and that's what we need right now we need our communities confident we need our communities safe we need our communities healthy and we need our businesses to be successful in addition to being a connector with public health the Sheboygan County Chamber of Commerce has continued to offer a variety of additional resources to again both members and non-members navigating the CARES Act as well as other social institutions when the world fell apart there was a lot of talk there was a lot of stuff going on and we certainly can't expect everybody to understand all of that so we really worked hard with some of our partners experts in these areas to help relay the messaging in a way that would make sense and be understood by our business community understanding unemployment resources for both employers employees losing their jobs or employers making really tough decisions we wanted to make sure that resources were available and people had an opportunity to again have those conversations and ask questions in real time virtual conversations with Dr. Lye of Purvea Health a trusted healthcare provider business resources showcasing changes in business practices curbside pickups, delivery options online shopping for our business community as they were transitioning their practices virtual activities to participate in at home to participate in at home during shutdown continue to showcase local business and keep people healthy we had a significant push for chamber cash local currency ensuring that more than a quarter of a million dollars stayed in our local economy during this time and wasn't spent on Amazon or Coles.com online shopping giant providing virtual conversations with local school districts, CPAs technology experts to help better equip our communities for success and then opening our resources again to non-members to give an opportunity for all of Sheboygan County businesses to be successful and that's all I have so thank you I can't tell you I have friends and family and other parts of the country where their situation certainly doesn't look as positive as ours does and I recognize ours does not look perfect but we are in a really good space and I am proud to be a part of Sheboygan County and the continued collaboration and partnerships is what's going to help us move this forward and get us to where we need to be so thank you very much thank you next item of business is public addresses alright the first is James Goldbeck my name is James Goldbeck 2420 South 18th Street Sheboygan Wisconsin but in a couple weeks I'm moving so I'll be calling up one of you here the reason why I'm here today is we all know what's going on with COVID all the previous speakers all said the exact same thing the reality is everybody's spreading fear this ordinance should not be here today this ordinance should not got this far today I'm expecting each one of you to do your job and defend the constitution you are giving away our rights by even thinking about passing this in the first place and each one of you are educated enough to know what rights this takes from us and also outside we're sick of it and we're growing we built the website We're Sheboygan for a reason and today is the beginning it is not the end and so I want each one of you to know that come this April it is recall time and it's not for you to do what we say it's for you to do what is right and that's what we're asking each one of you and I know some of you are amazing at what you do and you do the right thing without anybody even looking you're the person that does the right thing when no one's watching but what we see are people doing the wrong thing when everybody's watching and they're disguising it this was masked and this was brought in each one of us outside respect each and every one of you and yeah I've heard some of you before in previous meetings well now people want to come now they want to show up when this goes on we will show up when you're not doing your job when you're doing your job we won't show up that's a good thing you shouldn't see anybody in here because we should trust you you have our trust now you don't have our trust anymore so we're going to be much more diligent when we go to the voting polls and we see that about ordinance 3 and we see everything else that you've done ordinance 3 file it today yes if somebody pulls a snake move then to pass it is a no and I stand for everybody outside when I say that that is very important each one of you are going to be looked at from a magnifying glass what happens from this moment forward we understand everybody makes mistakes things happen we are here today we also understand that we are here today because someone else presented it who is not an elected official somebody else who is the CEO of this corporation and it's time for a change you see the red sign outside April 1997 voted the number one place to raise a family the number one place to raise a family leadership comes in and it's no longer that way anymore and it's a sad day for us it's all been around here the extended orders you don't think we know about the contracts that are issued that don't have to talk to the board okay you are in control this man you'll be held accountable particularly some of you up there outside we've had enough stop spreading the fear 99.98% survival rate the sheboyin county website please take care of this and have them adjust their numbers on their website it says 90% recovered that is false that is a lie that is spreading fear it is 99.98% recovered your accounting active cases instead hospitals or anything and you're automatically putting them in there that's not how you do data you need someone to take care of your analytics for you that's not how this works it is not 90% that's how you spread fear you want to know how you don't spread fear consumer confidence let's tell people that it's not 90% it's 99.98% survival that's what it is look at the numbers if you ignore the data I gave you a break for a reason do it look into the research hello I'm Patrick Johnson 644 school street colored it is much more important to kill bad bills than it is to pass good ones when it comes to ordinance 3 former president Calvin Coolidge is correct with respect to him and to add to his quote it is also important to update laws on the books that are outdated or bad as well including some of our state of emergencies that gives Mr. CEO ability to do whatever he wants in the name of an emergency and sees private property although it is predicated by many to go through a discussion tonight I'd like to commend the executive committee unanimously voting to file ordinance 3 I'm very well aware of the seriousness of COVID and its impacts on certain pre-existing conditions that people may have such as diabetes heart kidney and lung disease and individuals over the age of 65 to say that I don't take this seriously is very reckless and irresponsible I have family that works in the medical field my wife's a nurse my grandmothers in a nursing home in northwest Pennsylvania where COVID is much worse and extended family members are first responders and doctors the question of the day is why are people so angry and vocal about ordinance 3 it's a combination of multiple things but at the end of the day it's pretty simple one the initial ordinance 3 was introduced on a Friday at 8am let that sink in for a moment do you normally do a business deal like this on a Friday at 8am when no one's looking I don't think so why was a special meeting needed when health and human services the health and human services committee meets twice a month 2 giving public health officials authority to shut down businesses and evoke any relevant county licenses for not following a public health order what if a business invested in innovative technologies using the free market such as UV HVAC systems UV towers that killed 99.99% of pathogens and they don't play ball for the mass order that could potentially come down from a public health officer they're going above and beyond they're investing hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep their patrons safe how can we trust that this power will not be abused even with oversight from the county board especially since some of the motions and ordinances and state of emergencies have all been pulled straight from committee to the floor voted on that same day there's not a lot of trust there if you haven't figured that out yet hasn't the business community been hurt enough over the last 5 months let me remind you before you vote to either 4 or against ordinance 3 about the yoga instructor who in Sheboygan Falls who had less than $3 in her business bank account that is why the business community is furious 3 show hands how many of you read the Wisconsin County Association guidelines and implementing regulations surrounding communicable diseases that is continually referenced show hands is that concerning I think that's very concerning within this document it scopes out how to write local health ordinances suggests methods of enforcement and template court issued orders in addition it talks about some other draconian methods of enforcement interestingly enough there's a current case in the U.S. federal court system regarding COVID restrictions within the last 36 hours Judge William Stickman in Pennsylvania struck down Governor Wolf's administration's pandemic policies as being overreaching arbitrary and violating citizens constitutional rights but even in an emergency the authority of a government is not fettered this sounds very similar to ordinance 3 good intentions to address public health but regardless of circumstances civil liberties and constitutional rights rule the day in closing I spoke to the county board in June about how Sheboygan County residents will be very closely watching actions taken by the board it seems the warning about transparency and increased communications were not heated are you listening now vote no on ordinance 3 file it put it in the middle of a folder soak in lighter fluid and burn that baby thank you for your time next up Michael Jones my name is Michael Jones my address is W-4720 County Road F Waldo ordinance 3 is a draconian control measure against the working class contributing citizens in this great county it has deeply entrenched roots that stretch far beyond the surface portrayal of simply wearing a mask it will crush the very foundation of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness following the golden rule as of March 13th 2020 there were 2.1 million Americans living in long-term care facilities here in United States this represents 0.6% of the population as of June 1st by the CDC own statistics 53.3% of all COVID related deaths came from about 6% of the population then magically the percentage in that population started to rise and the CDC stopped recording it separately and they bunched them in with all the other deaths to make one scary even more gloomy and gloomy and fearful number this leaves a very very small percentage of the general population that has passed from COVID in fact it is considerably less than the average flu season amongst the county we have 10 I guess 12 now unfortunately every death is sad 10 COVID deaths many have had underlying conditions as well both here and throughout the country but I will not focus on that being 6 months into a manufactured crisis I rest assured saying that 12 is a very low number of deaths in this county again unfortunately the average flu season takes many more lives and is much more dangerous to the general population so what then made it to appoint a county health officer ironically shortly after Evers mask mandate was shut down by the Wisconsin Supreme Court this is exactly what you the board did eerie timeline I would add because everyone is wondering just what are startling growths prior life experiences and qualifications to act as a key decision maker for all of Sheboyin county's population seems like I believe you were given the public reference to the board no personal question I'm asking questions about her I'm not attacking her I'm taking that as an attack okay that's a question okay let me continue on then if that's okay with you seems like a very important position she holds who is she accountable to and for what did she take an oath to the constitution during her appointment what is her salary these are just a few questions I feel we the people deserve to know the answers to the question seems you'll be given unchecked power during a government deemed health crisis so who are we really dealing with here let's have some transparency between the board and the constituents of this county using your own numbers from ordinance 3 let's do some extremely simple math grade school level I might add there's 34 hospital beds as you showed earlier devoted to COVID in this county between HSHS Memorial if 50% so 17 of those beds are being used for COVID we supposedly want to get sidetracked but 6 months into this pandemic and we have not more than 34 beds in this county seems to me that if people in charge really cared about other members of this community some positive enhancements to our medical preparations and abilities maybe you've made in the last 6 months but then again if you thought ahead and you acted for once instead of waiting for something to happen I suppose that would limit your ability to cast more doom and gloom and fear and take away and control and take away from us and enhance your need to control us so back to the number 17 COVID cases out of 115,456 residents in Sheboygan County which is what I could find from the 2018 census so that themes a health crisis 17 patients that is .000147% of the population in this great county seems like a horrific dream to give anyone unilateral control over the population over such a minute number these are numbers that expose all of your thirst for control and power this tiny fraction being used to stifle our county is absurd and frankly creepy perhaps now you see why all of the freedom loving working class men and women gathered outside tonight in bright colors enthusiasm and support for America are here to say no to ordinance 3 no to more big government intrusions and no to any of you that decide to vote in favor of it we are not here to be in favor of it we are here to remind this pawn and further divide our community friends families and customers alike over a mask mandate that may not even work depending on who you talk to enough is enough to remember this fact we wake up every day and find some way to produce a good or service someone else is willing to pay for to fund your careers and salaries without the working class you have nothing either your system goes broke whether it's a 22 year career it's just differently going forward instead of trying to pass a permanent ordinance in a blitzkrieg fashion to combat a temporary situation discuss it with us first make the time to be transparent surely you cannot be so short sighted as really affecting every one of our businesses won't in turn jeopardize yours as well in the end I can't do one more quick paragraph thank you for your time God bless America the best is yet to come Frederick Phelps 69 North Milwaukee Street I've been glad to see the diverse backgrounds and views of the community that's come out to speak against this measure I do not share all the same views of some of those who have come before me I'm sure I won't share those of all who come after me however on one issue we are united this ordinance was a bad idea to me this is not an issue of the present virus this ordinance is not restricted self to that topic neither shall I no this is a question of liberty we are here to determine if you seek to represent us or to rule us we are here to determine if you see yourselves fit to direct us against our express will Mr. Payne has publicly and repeatedly defended this measure explaining that it restricts state law he assured me directly that this was important because some of these state statutes written in a bygone era were downright frightening to the extent to which they granted emergency powers on this latter point he's entirely correct I encourage everyone to read some of these state statutes we have worked ahead of us in Madison that does not concern this council however you cannot directly overturn state statutes you can only pass your own therefore the question before us what did this ordinance contain there are only three possible variants either it enabled an increase of power for the government it did nothing whatsoever or reigned in the government and provided extra oversight if it grants greater power that you both deceive and defy us we must ask do you find these downright frightening state statutes to not go far enough if you pass an ordinance that changes nothing then you demonstrate impotence and add to a sea of paperwork to no avail no this would be foolish indeed you all hold office for a reason so this cannot be the case restricting state overreach would demonstrate your capacity for responsive governance it would affirm that Americans are ruled by their consent alone you would leave room for timely and moderate response in the face of future crisis by doing so at the same time you could also keep frightening overreach from a bygone era at bay clearly this is the best option now you may not all understand where we're coming from you may view this as an overreaction or not take seriously some of the concerns expressed you may not understand why we insist so adamantly that such serious actions only be taken by elected officials alone however I contend that questions of liberty are never small matters this ordinance seems destined to fail good however we will not let our attention slacken we remember our history a decade before the revolution the British Parliament passed the stamp act this allowed the crown's taxman to bypass local representatives and take money directly from the people through peaceful demonstration we Americans got the act repealed we celebrated too soon the very same day that the British Parliament repealed the stamp act they passed the declaratory act which affirmed parliament's right to bind the colonies in all matters whatsoever a decade later the damage was truly seen a chink in liberty's it's a serious issue no matter how small it starts off as prove to us that you understand our relationship do nothing or stand with us but do not act against the people act responsibly repair our trust we are still watching thank you sure I'm going to get old okay good evening my name is Agnes Jackson 3, 4, 16, South 10th Street ordinance 3 is vague and dangerous why? any ANY defined as without restriction limitation, unmeasured, unlimited to any extent, any degree any is used many times in this ordinance 3 why begin by defining a tiny little 3 letter word because it gives unlimited power over you and your family's lives because you too are the public whether you're on the board or off line 22 and 23 says you the county board founded in the best interest of the public to create a civil enforcement mechanism yes civil enforcement for violations of public health orders I ask you do you do you find it in the best interest of your families all orders and their enforcement will apply to you and to them you will have unlimited power to be given to one health officer and the designees and assistants let's look at what you are authorizing the ordinance 3 line 42 states upon appearance that's vague of any communicable disease that's undefined the public health officer will report to you the board however lines 47 to 50 indicate that the PHO has already taken all measures necessary that is unlimited power before reporting to you the board yet in line 51 there is a loophole which says OR as the Wisconsin health secretary may direct so you may be left out of the information loophole that's vague line 54 authorizes a single health officer to do whatever is reasonable and necessary that's vague it's unlimited and it's dangerous I'm going to take you to line 68 a person who is suspected of being infected suspected that ought to scare the bejesus out of you let's get back to line 60 no one can interfere dangerous with the investigation of a place your home or the occupants your family by the PHO and assistants I'm seeing two problems here what law enforcement and investigative training have they had and for how long who monitors their unlimited powers dazzling grandpa's on the board if your kids or grandkids are suspected and come under investigation can you help them no ladies can you help your siblings or their kids if under investigation no gentlemen can you help your spouses or your parents no you board members who will help you if you're under investigation no one county board members do you really want to authorize a PHO and assistants to investigate your family on suspicion when your natural instinct and compulsion is to help them is labeled interference and therefore illegal this ordinance 3 is very dangerous line 76 limits an order to 60 days but line 77 nullifies that 60 day limit when it adds an order may be extended by subsequent orders that's multiple unending duration to answer concerns Mr. Payne uses soft fluffy vague words like well we hope not or that's not our intention but hopes and intentions are not in ordinance 3 what recourse supervisors would you have would you as a part of the public have should you or your family come under investigation line 116 tells us proceeding under any other ordinance or law relating to the same or any other matter shall not preclude enforcement under this section why is that even in the ordinance who needs such iron clad authority tonight your vote will determine the fate of the ordinance 3 and its revisions if you fail to file ordinance 3 you and your family must comply without recourse because like you because you like we are the public so we thank you for voting to file ordinance 3 and its revisions and we call on you to stay vigilant that no future proposals like this and I thank you Emilia Lopez thank you everyone for allowing us to speak on this my name is Emilia Lopez 2939 Enterprise Drive Sheboygan first and foremost any proposed ordinance wishing to give government say over what is best for me and my body is clear overreach the Minister of Interpaying has stated that this ordinance is not meant to do so however the proposed ordinance states that the health office will take any measures necessary to prevent, suppress and control communicable diseases and the measures used against them as needed it's very concerning to me what measures are we talking about the only ones proposed by our health officials right now are wear a cloth mask that is made similarly to the underwear that I'm wearing right now social distancing and vaccines which if you studied health nutrition at all you know that all of them our bodies need oxygen our bodies need community we don't need neurotoxins aborted fetal DNA etc. injected into our bodies to be healthy this proposed ordinance uses terms such as reasonable necessary measures etc. why they want this to be as vague as possible and ultimately give themselves the power to decide what those terms mean I think that's been abundantly clear by all the speakers here that that's not going to work ordinance 3 also states no person who is knowingly infected may willfully violate the recommendations of the local health officer and goes on to say that no person may take aid in taking or cause to be taken a person who is infected or is suspected of being infected to any public place or conveyance I don't know about you guys but it sounds like a lot of contract tracing to me as well as invasion of privacy again very concerning giving one person the authority to make decisions for an entire county for any length of time is ridiculous let alone 60 days does that individual forfeit their salary during this time? likely not but the people of this county will be gravely effective while this person sits in their office continuing on as normal making decisions for them you stayed in the beginning of this proposed ordinance that you recognize is critical that the economy and businesses remain operational yet you propose giving one person the authority to revoke their licenses how can we not all see the hypocrisy in that you know I only had an hour about an hour to prepare for this and I showed up during I'm sorry ma'am I forgot your name but you were the first speaker and it's very concerning to me again the health official only talking about cloth masks only talking about social distancing hand wash where are we talking about nutrition community getting out being around each other that's what keeps us healthy being out in the sun none of this stuff is talked about by local health officials federal health officials it's ridiculous you call yourselves health officials and don't speak anything about health it's bizarre I asked the committee to fill this ordinance in the trash and allow the people of this county to continue on with their freedoms best for themselves, their family and their community thank you my name is Linda Balkie I live at W4441 Willow Bend Road in Waldo and I'm here to urge you to reject proposed ordinance 3 when I first started researching this ordinance I was told that it doesn't give the county health officer any power that they don't already have then why do we need this ordinance passing this ordinance to give an unelected official unlimited power to create their own laws and enforce them it's like giving the police department the power to make their own laws and then enforce them there's a law making process in this land already in place and this circumvents that process there's already a law enforcement mechanism and law enforcement officers take an oath to uphold the constitution the county health officer does not we're told that the civil penalties that are being offered are less harsh than the criminal penalties that's because they can't enforce criminal penalties and there's less protection in a civil suit than there is in a criminal case in a criminal case you have the right to an attorney if you can't afford one one will be appointed to you in a civil case if you can't afford one you're just out of luck in a criminal case you're innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a civil case it's just a preponderance of evidence meaning whether or not you're more likely to have done what they said 51% certainty in a criminal case you have a right to a speedy trial not so in a civil case there are other protections in a criminal case that we have that aren't there in a civil case the penalties of the state are limited the state statutes limited to a $500 fine or 30 days in jail or both but in this ordinance there are no limits everybody seems to focus on $25 for the first offense 50 for the second and 100 for the third and seem to forget that there are other penalties that can be inflicted for penalties listed number three says the entry of judgment for a forfeiture forfeiture means you give them money how much money doesn't say totally unlimited very vague also there's no time limited it says orders to the public at large says an order can be issued for not more than 60 days which can be extended by subsequent orders basically it's unlimited it can go on and on Adam Cain's court is saying there's nothing in the ordinance that talks about vaccines there's nothing in the ordinance that prohibits mandatory vaccines again it's very vague and allows anything this proposed ordinance gives one electoral official the power to act autonomously and immediately we're told there's county board oversight but the wording is the board shall be submitted to the health and human services and executive committees upon issuance for review at a joint meeting basically that's after the fact I mean basically they're finding out when the public's finding out when it's issued so they're not saying this is what we're thinking of doing when you think they're saying this is what we did and if Adam Cain thinks that some of the state statutes are frightening I can't understand how you can champion this ordinance thank you for letting me express my views thank you Sue Kaiser is next good evening my name is Sue Kaiser and I live at 1024 Sunset Drive in Plymouth, Wisconsin I want to take you down a little trip down memory lane I want you to go back to a time in your life when you decided that it was time for you to serve your community as a county board supervisor for some of you that time is a relatively short period of time to have to think back to but for others of you that time frame is spanning many decades so it might be a little tougher to bring yourself back to that moment in time but I ask you to try I ask you to try to remember the time in your life when you decided that you cared more about your community than you cared about your own personal time try to remember that time in your life when you decided there was a certain set of tools that you could bring to this table that could make a difference in both email conversations and telephone chats that I've had with some of you time and again I heard the words care and heart come up frequently I applaud you and I deeply thank you for your years of service to our community I'm pretty sure that this particular day was not on your radar when you made your decision to become a county supervisor oh sure you knew you wouldn't always win the popularity contest but I bet you didn't see this one coming kind of like serving in the military ready to do that service but sure hope of war never makes you have to go in and serve that way but then there were masks such a small tiny little object to raise so much hoopla reminds me of being a parent or a mentor or a volunteer with youth our children can sometimes be errant children they can play nice with others until all of a sudden another little girl grabs your son's truck and he hauls off and hits her with it because it's his toy or when it's recess and best friends run out to the swing set and your daughter doesn't get there first so she pushes her best friend off the swing because she wanted it errant children malvy constituents not too much different so what exactly am I trying to say here I guess I'm trying to say vote tonight like a parent vote knowing that you aren't supposed to be your child's friend you're supposed to be their parent you're supposed to keep your children safe as you all know our county COVID numbers keep rising as well as our deaths but also as a parent it is your responsibility to make sure your children do not harm others therefore making sure public health guidelines are upheld I'd really like you to remember back to when you decided to run for this position remember that through it all words like care and heart were the words you all seem to keep using for our county so show that caring heart when you vote for ordinance 3 Adam Payne, Starling Grossman you rock last week I was thinking of calling and cancelling my time to speak tonight knowing I was going to be the only one talking during this public comment time about the positive sides of a mask mandate and having our county adhere to CDC guidelines was a daunting obstacle in front of me tonight my legs are quivering my knees are knocking my stomach is as tight as a knot my palms are sweating I'm afraid of racism not because I'm nervous with excitement but rather because I'm afraid yep afraid I'm afraid of the lack of caring for others in common sense that I see in my community I'm afraid to walk through the angry mob of protesters outside I'm afraid to say I support the mask mandate and I support following CDC guidelines I'm afraid to say I think public health should have the right to say we mask up and lock down if necessary but then I thought of Adam I thought of Starling and I knew that I could take it because of no matter how much backlash I get for speaking tonight you too have been taken a ton more heat and for a lot longer so if no one else tells you too or all of you supervisors tonight I'm going to be shouting it from the roof thank you all of you for your service to Sheboyin County thank you next Dr. John Wright good evening everybody thanks for letting me speak Dr. John Wright I'm a lifetime resident to Sheboyin County I also own the southwest state bank building on south 12th street as a way to revitalize this community and that's where my office is I have a lot of time, love, money and everything into this community in terms of volunteering and everything else I'm here to speak as a concerned citizen but also someone who's been in the health care world for 17 years in this community hopefully it can bring some light to some different scenarios and I appreciate all of the speakers tonight regardless of opinions but that's why we're here this is what we want to do and communicate with a government let me open by saying on public health that being said the ordinance is very vague as others have mentioned to explain all measures that are quote reasonable and necessary I don't think any of you would sign a mortgage with those words in there at all saying reasonable and necessary things down the road these are all things we want to really look at and look at details and I think the details are really important with everything that we do so why am I here I've been in contact with numerous health care providers and other people in this area as well as different parts of the state and all of them have said to me I'm not going to speak up because I'm afraid of my job and that's the thing that makes me very scared and they're afraid of reprimands from their employers whether it's big hospitals or small clinics in no way shape or form do I feel that's safe that doctors, nurses and other health care staff members are afraid to have their own opinions and their expertise whether it's however many years of service they've done in the health care world to give their opinions to their patients obviously I'll say it's a lot easier to go about your daily tasks and stay under the radar by following quote-unquote standards of care in the health care world but that's not okay, you know, Sheboygan County demands and deserves better and doctor means teacher and I want to hopefully truly educate some people about health we aren't doing our jobs if we're not teaching people about health so what am I standing up for at the end of the day we want people to be educated of what's going on and make sure we learn from previous mistakes right I'm not going to go over other things people have mentioned but what happens if people then stand up for Vioxx right it's an extreme case but bear with me it appears that it's caused 140,000 heart attacks and 60,000 deaths at some point though that had to effectively pass all the FDA regulations that are there we're not going to go into all the other details but from full of the mind and all the different things that are there and what happens in our health care world or government whatever we have a really significant lack of trust that occurs and that's been seen a lot with health care government and if this ordinance somehow gets through that would kind of add to the distrust and that trust is up to the members in this room this evening and how much do you want that trust of the community so going over statistics right so we could go from the CDC it says nationally if this is from quote influenza like illness activity remains below baseline for the 21st consecutive weekend at levels that are typical for this time of year quoted based on death certificate data percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia influenza or COVID for the week of the 36 is 6.3% which is above the epidemic range but we have to look at this from the big picture we're looking at COVID influenza and pneumonia altogether cumulative hospitalization rate since March 1, 0.16% overall 0.45 if you're over 65 in Sheboygan according to the studies that the numbers I saw the other day 0.78% and infection rate so what is the end game is that no cases in which case we have to get rid of testing I'm not saying we should do that so what is the effectiveness of flu treatment that we have and what have we done for the past couple decades to make sure that we're protecting our people honestly it comes down to what's the baseline health of the individual and I have no I'm not saying anything negative to people that's just the statistics of how it is the CDC says the average BMI is about 30 for every single adult which puts us on obese category again I'm not picking on anybody at all these are the statistics we look at infant mortality rate being very high in the in the U.S. so let's be honest right if the virus was the only factor in play again I'm not trying to be insensitive if the virus was the only factor in play if you had the virus it would be 100% death rate there are other factors in place so we look at all these things it comes down to we're not going to tell people you can't buy soda you can't do Twinkies you can't buy cigarettes but what we've done overall is not create a community of health and I don't have any negatives toward public health and everything else but let's make some maybe big changes to get this under control because it's a virus it's going to be around so what do we do to make sure that we're protecting our people young and old interestingly I went on PubMed last night which is where you get all the research I typed in vitamin D in immunity there were 5,237 articles that showed up I typed in exercise in immunity there are 2,771 when was the last time we heard anybody on TV talk about exercise or vitamin D let alone sleep better stress management and everything else and what I've seen in the last many months in practice after 17 years I've never seen my patients more stressed in my life and that scares me what more scares me is that when the flu comes and it the flu is going to come no matter who the person is it is here it's a virus it's going to be more prone to people that have been under stress for the last 6 months so we look at hospitals yes we want to keep them under control so they can protect people if they have really significant issues but this leads to the baseline health of the individual and that's where it comes down to the person in the mirror making sure we're doing things to protect our own health which will also help our community thank you very much appreciate it Dr. Joe Sheehan I am Joe Sheehan Executive Director of Sheboygan County Economic Development Corporation long word what does that mean before I go into some of their answers and their comments for you a couple things you need to hear Sheboygan County Economic Development supports you the discussions that we had as a whole group and you know who they are there are business, education government leaders saying Sheboygan is an incredible place to live it's going to continue to grow and develop as we had our discussions with them they said and you really need to hear this we support you they took a motion unanimously and I will read that to you very clearly because there's been some confusion of what the SCDC supports hopefully I can look at every one of you they support your actions they support what you've done and they have incredible faith and some may call it blind faith absolutely not it's earned faith and that is huge there's an earned trust here in our county of you and those of you that have gone around are the parts of the country don't take that for granted we surely can't good leadership also takes patience you've got people with different views thank you for listening to them and I know you continue to do that that's an important part of an incredibly healthy community it used to be an educator there's one thing you get out of this tonight from me from the SCDC is thank you, we trust you and we're going to work forward together to make sure that boy continues to grow and prosper the actual statement the SCDC again mouthful Boygan County Economic Development Corporation before I read the motion just in Detra what you said is accurate talking to our business leaders back to we got to take care of our employees by the way our employees are also parents by the way employers are also parents so the motion talks about business also talks about education the strength of that we just talked and that's how they felt it wasn't oh can you really think about they walked in with the discussions with that in mind how do we take care of our employees first things first so long term they're going to be safe and they're going to be able to stay here the SCDC supports local, state and federal public health guidelines to reduce and eliminate the spread of COVID-19 including requiring masks, maintaining social distance and limiting mask gatherings in addition if the data and health officials indicate that additional measures are necessary the SCDC supports the Boygan County officials and taking further measures to suppress the spread of the disease with the end goal of keeping our schools and businesses open and our economy going some of you may read that say that's a blank, that's just a blank check no it's not it's a earned trust thought and I know with you and your leadership you're going to have people at the table to talk about these things to make sure they understand so again appreciate all these people with their passion that are here tonight they're part of Boygan County and part of the strength of Boygan County is having an open government that's what we believe and that's what we're about in Boygan so on behalf of all of Boygan County and very specifically you need to hear the SCDC the trust the earned trust that all of you have done so go to bed tonight look in the mirror and go you know what they heard they actually trust me why because you want to be the best it can be so again thank you that is all of our speakers alright next is letter communications and announcements the only thing I have is a resolution from Price County regarding supporting the commitment to veterans support of outreach act since we've had that before we'll receive that for information that is all next is the county administrators report thank you Mr. Chairman good evening I hope everyone is hanging in there this is a longer and heavy board meeting and a very important one and we certainly appreciate all of the input that we've received associated with COVID and our emergency planning you know my sincere thanks and appreciation to everyone who's been working together to slow the spread of COVID-19 critically important for our community and we've seen what's happened in other communities across the state, the nation the world it's so critical that we keep our businesses open our schools open our places of worship open and we have been working as effectively as we can in collaboration with others to keep our communities safe so we appreciate the feedback and everyone taking personal responsibility to be part of the solution our public health professionals our direct care providers our emergency responders our schools and universities the LTC, the clergy county chambers, Sheboygan County Economic Development Corporation and thousands and thousands of residents in Sheboygan County have stepped up to be part of the solution it is making a difference it's making a difference and now is not the time to let our guard down I think for many of us it feels like we've been grappling with this for a long time yet it was just on March 13th that President Trump declared a national state of emergency I am so proud of our public health officer and our public health staff and the outstanding job they have done to work with others to work in collaboration to protect our community to protect residents I'm so proud of them they need our support, they've earned our support and they are very capable and qualified and passionate people we owe them a debt of gratitude for what they've been doing and how they've been serving this community on August 14th the Health and Human Services Committee was used in ordinance they didn't do it in the dark of the night they did it because we're in the midst of a battle with COVID-19 and we wanted to get our emergency plans up in front and center and unlike what was reported the county board wasn't voting on it the next day it went through the normal two month process for input and we've received a lot of input and we appreciate all and respectful input that we've received in fact when the executive committee got together to discuss this proposal they made a number of changes and some of the speakers this evening were referring to the first draft when there were further improvements made I readily admit the first draft could be improved upon I've yet to meet the perfect person and I've yet to meet the perfect ordinance or a law there's always room for improvement and without question it could be more clear and so some refinements were made to that but I want to be really clear again on what our objectives were we were striving to be transparent about our COVID-19 emergency planning if the ordinance was passed tonight nothing changes it isn't a mask mandate it isn't an immediate public health order we were striving to be transparent about our emergency planning for example if things got significantly worse and I'll use the word again I hope it doesn't we all hope it doesn't don't we but if things get significantly worse and our hospitals are on the brink of being overrun with COVID patients what might trigger a countywide public health order we have not had any countywide public health orders not one to date because of the good work of our staff and everyone involved was working in collaboration to defeat COVID-19 but if our hospitals were on the brink of being overrun with COVID patients what may trigger a countywide public health order what would be the process what would be the enforcement measures aren't these things that the community would expect us to share what it's parent about isn't that one of the objectives of emergency planning this is what we'll do if certain situations occur so to this end we work very closely with our hospitals and you've heard our public health officers say we speak with our hospital representatives daily in this instance we spoke with the president of both our area hospitals and we asked them what would be that trigger when would you be concerned there will be a key indicator that our hospitals are becoming overwhelmed we didn't know we asked them and that's where they shared if 50% of our ICU beds or medical surgical beds have COVID positive patients in them we need to be concerned as a community and we don't want to act after they're overwhelmed right we want to take some action and we're overwhelmed so they said that was the trigger we said okay we built that into the ordinance the proposed ordinance also and this is the irony of all the feedback that so many of us have received and thank you for that feedback this is Sheboygan County and we do listen to one another and we make changes and we make improvements I'll bet you 50% of the people that emailed me are called and said we don't want all that authority official one public health officer all that authority he or she is going to make that decision on their own you got to be kidding me really? at least 50% of the people said that to me and I said did you read the ordinance it builds in legislative oversight checks and balances and the first draft had it with the health and human services committee and the executive committee two standard committees we changed that to the full county board that's what's in the most recent draft so we appreciate that feedback but if you've read the ordinance it doesn't put all the power in the hands of one individual it decentralizes it to the full county board there's checks and balances which by the way isn't required under current state law that's currently not a requirement we built that in and then finally the proposed ordinance addresses enforcement provisions what's it going to look like if the hospitals are overrun if our public health officer has to make an order of some kind if the county board approves that what kind of enforcement mechanisms would we have to hold it up under current state law it talks about jail and 500 dollar fines law enforcement and our district attorney our law enforcement officials are stretched so thin today they're doing such incredible work our district attorney very stretched very thin we didn't want to burden them further so we put that enforcement authority in the public health staff and we reduced it from jail and a 500 dollar fine to what was mentioned earlier I think 25, 50 and 100 dollars we took the current state law and we're not changing it that law exists today and will continue to exist but we reduced the types of fines or penalties that would be in it if we had to take greater action to protect our community former secretary of state and general Colin Powell said never believe the first thing you hear sadly there was an initial news report I think within two or three days of the proposed ordinance and it got it all wrong it got it all wrong and in fact it said the county board was going to be voting the next night on the ordinance you know what as a resident of this community I'd be ticked off too what? what's all in this they're acting tomorrow night I can appreciate why it got people upset frustrated I get it but that was all wrong but then it got out on Facebook and here we are here we are I can tell you with 100% sincerity that the people that were involved with developing this proposed ordinance care a great deal about this community want to do the right thing and I'd like to think that history is a pretty good indicator of the future look at the track record of this county board the thoughtfulness of this county board the professionalism of our staff collaboration has been key to our success for decades yet during these very difficult times that the doctor said he's never seen his patients so stressed out I see it in my spouse I see it in my children I see it in my coworkers I see it in county board's faces I see it in the people who are here tonight and the people who are outside the current level of angst and frustration and uncertainty it's as high as I've ever seen and during these difficult times this ordinance this proposed ordinance with the best of intentions it's clearly serving as a liking rod and it's contributing to more angst and uncertainty we hear you we heard you all of us should be striving to keep our community safe every single one of us should be striving to keep our community safe we should be striving to support and lift one another up not tear one another down and we should treat one another like our parents who taught us treat people like you want to be treated through all this angst and uncertainty I've never seen this level of rancor and it's just remarkable all of us should be coming together with a common goal of defeating COVID I mean that should be our common goal, right our collective health keeping our business of schools places of worship open depends on all of us taking personal responsibility people say they would don't do anything don't tell us what to do allow us to take personal responsibility then take it right take it lead by example look in the mirror down the road when this is all past us and say what did I do to be part of the solution who did I lift up whose lives did I change for the better I hope the county board will follow the lead of the county executive committee and move to file the proposed ordinance I want to thank all who have provided us provided us with thoughtful and respectful input and again everyone for taking some personal responsibility to keep our community safe thank you Mr. Chairman next is consideration of committee reports executive committee resolution number 11 regarding the 2021 five years capital plan recommendation to that Supervisor Wagner thank you Mr. Chairman I move for approval of resolution number 11 thank you Supervisor Wagner Supervisor Gehring thank you Mr. Chairman I will second that motion thank you Supervisor Gehring now under discussion seeing no light let's vote on resolution number 11 this is a preview unanimously resolution number 12 regarding approving permanent easement for village of Kohler sewer interceptor at eerie avenue old plank road trail trailhead recommendation to adopt Supervisor Gehring thank you Mr. Chairman I will move for adoption thank you Supervisor Gehring Supervisor Wagner I'll second that thank you Supervisor Wagner now under discussion seeing no discussion please let's vote that motion is also a preview unanimously ordinance number 3 regarding creating section 10.09 disease control providing for enforcement of public health orders and legislative oversight committee recommendation amend by replacing original version with revised version and file with the clerk Supervisor Abler thank you Mr. Chair I'll make a motion to move to file the ordinance at number 3 as amended thank you Supervisor Abler Supervisor Wagner I'll second that motion thank you Supervisor Wagner under discussion Supervisor Hoffman thank you Mr. Chairman I believe it's my duty as chairman of the health and human services committee of this county board to speak I'm going to be a bit repetitive Adam said a lot of what I was going to say the question is why why are we scrapping this ordinance it was well crafted it took away no one's rights we spent a lot of time on this a lot of thought it was written only to be used in a real COVID emergency it was written with the guidance of the Wisconsin counties association it was vetted by our county's legal counsel its penalty section was for civil sanctions rather than criminal this usually means no jail time before it would have gone into effect two committees and the county board would have to approve it remember these are people that you the citizens elected we remember that you elected us that's one of the reasons why I'm going to vote to scrap this thing anyway I'm also going to vote to scrap this thing just to put it behind us okay but let's remember let's just remember this morning it was reported two more people died of COVID we now have it in the high schools where I'm teaching one hour a day north has a case south has a case if it really goes out of hand we're going to be back to complete virtual learning and then the parents will have to probably stay home with their kids because they can't find people to care for this is a serious disease it won't go away on its own now we only have three weapons to fight it face covering quarantine and social distancing and good hygiene by the way I find it reprehensible that people are going to attack Adam Payne his intentions were good I know I sat in on the discussions threats are out of line to this county board to your fellow citizens to each other, to anybody you don't accomplish a whole lot by threats oh you may get sometimes a thing or two changed but in the end it doesn't work don't make your cause personal don't attack Starlene Grossman what a great job I know I've sat in on hour after hour with my committee and meetings with her I'm really kind of upset with those people who attacked Adam and Star and some of the other county board members really kind of upset I've been on this board for almost 20 years I was a city alderman for six years I've taught high school in this community for 52 years 40 of it full time public service is what I'm about there is no way in hell I was trying to take away anyone's rights or hurt anybody my objective was to help people and I know that was the objective of this county board so those people okay we're putting the ordinance on the shelf but I would warn you that if COVID goes wild we'll see this ordinance back probably and we'll probably see it even more restrictive I hope that God helps us I hope that COVID does go away but just remember be nice to one another don't criticize we're all in the same boat together thank you for your time thank you Supervisor Hoffman Supervisor Nelson and for the county board rules this is a debatable motion thank you Mr. Chairman I know we have a large audience watching on TV if not today in the future so if it would please you I would just like to have you explain exactly what a yes and what a no vote will mean thank you Supervisor Nelson Corporation Council would you mind yes so I'm paraphrasing the motion but the motion was made to file as amended and under the county board rules a motion to file with the county clerk is in essence a motion to kill the ordinance which means it would not be enacted so if you are in favor of killing the ordinance then you would vote yes or I tonight and if you would prefer that the motion or that the ordinance continue to move forward then it would be a no vote Supervisor Netting I have the same question that Henry did and you've just answered it thank you see no other lights we will then vote on ordinance number 3 the motions approved unanimously next is consideration of committee reports finance committee resolution number 13 regarding authorizing county aid for culvert construction in the towns of Panama and Cheboygan recommendation to adopt Supervisor Gary Mr. Chairman I move for adoption of resolution number 13 thank you Supervisor Gary Supervisor Wagner thank you Mr. Chairman I will second that motion thank you Supervisor Wagner under discussion seeing no lights please vote the motions also approved unanimously I turn the gavel over to the vice chair good evening to you all resolutions introduced resolution number 14 from executive committee regarding reaffirming membership in Wisconsin Bay workforce development area consortium and approval of amended consortium agreement resolution number 14 refer to human resources resolution number 15 from the finance committee regarding authorizing the issuance and sale of $4166,000 taxable general obligation refunding bonds resolution number 15 will be referred to executive committee there are no ordinances introduced Mr. Distruty would you help me with Supervisor Distruty would you help me with the next order of business thank you Mr. Vice Chair I'll move to adjourn thank you Supervisor Distruty I second Supervisor Emel thank you Mr. Vice Chairman I'll second that thank you Supervisor Emel let's all vote please we are adjourned thank you