 Right on bro. We're live. Let me make sure my camera is on here. Okay, cool Right on man, okay So let me why don't I why don't I walk you through on your end if you want because I can I can show you on my end But I want it. I want you to kind of get familiar with it, you know, yeah, that'd be great Yeah, so go ahead and try to share your screen Are you there? Yeah, yeah for sure awesome So what do you what are you working on as far as the communications that seek? Yeah, so I just so I'll show you the page Right now we since we've had a hiccup and I'm talking we me and my personal trainer He just linked it so when they click on the thank you button it downloads, but we originally had you know this here Where they have two options to buy and then it goes to different different pages or different thank you pages different products And then different thank you pages So Your face here There we go. All right, so If I go to my communications what we're having and it's not all the time it might even be what we did but I'm gonna say it's a user error, but When the people we've had like five purchases already since last night we put it up and man Yeah, I'm like really stoked about this product because it is making this way easier but like I We played around with it a lot and apparently not everybody once they buy it is getting the email sequence afterwards It's happening like sporadically like some people get it some people don't Okay, we even ran some test runs. So when I don't when I purchased it It went through. I got the email my Trainer he had his girlfriend purchase it. She got it one time out of four. So she purchased it four different times and Only got the the sequence email one time So I don't know if we just set it up wrong or maybe it's a Cartra error that they need to like fix on their end or something Okay, so let's um Let open up the start and roll let me look at that tag real quick Okay, so purchase leaders assigned tag perfect. Okay, so that tag is right Okay, you can cancel out of that So then whoever purchased that product, they're not all getting put into this sequence is what you're saying Yeah, they're not everyone's getting this and I'll show you what this this is where they're supposed to get Click on click on them click on the receipt. Okay. Click on the recipients has purchased product. Yeah. Yeah, so that's the right product right there This is correct product. Yeah. Okay, so has this is one of this is one of the two they can buy to do this one another one Okay, perfect so but either case it's not always going through where Is it always this like kind of lag that could be my computer my computer's a little but So email Content this is what they're supposed to be getting stuff in here Whoever their first name there's you my D and then you know, that's that's for the show that they they bought the package They bought the class and then they'll be able to access it this Saturday so tomorrow In this right here what you also want to do just as a site is you want to hyperlink that zoom link? Yeah Yeah, I told my trainer to do that. I guess you forgot but yeah, I've been I've been hyperlinking it Okay, you think that's the problem. No, that's not Yeah After our first call I click here and hyperlink to click here to download whatever right because that's that's what you and I've been doing Or that's what you told me to do after our first call. Yeah But what you can do is just just highlight that entire link You either can show the entire link or you can just say click here Correct. And so but but at the same time you still want to at least at least hyperlink it So just copy the whole thing and then just hit that link at the top just yeah hit that So at least so that's where that link should go. Yeah Okay, so whether it's the whole thing or or not you want to I got you Yeah, so just yes You might as well just copy the whole thing and then just paste it. Hi. Yeah, click the hyperlink and then just paste it in Just for now, but Yeah, ideally it's the click here. Yeah, he just forgot to put that. That's a big deal. We could get no worries Yeah, okay, cool. So just yeah save that and then just That tag that tag is set up, right? So I'm wondering why not everyone's getting the email go back to go to an actual lead So let's go to Let's go to my communications. Let's get out of this part out of the sequence And let's go to the actual yeah, so let's let's exit out of this one Just hit done and exit and then let's take a look at the list real quick So we'll take a look we'll take a look at the list and we'll click on so go to so at the top left. Just hover over Up hover over leads and click on list and then click on the number the amount of leads that are on that list So is it three? Is it two? Which one is it? Trying to think we're on this one would be I think it would be this one So actually don't open it up, but click on the number three. Oh, okay. Yeah Okay, so we're well right now. This is only showing the test runs that we did Yeah, yeah, so let's click on click on one of them for example Click on the name on the actual and then also you can see right through the tags hover over the number two for Tony Hover hover over the number three for a Brandon in the tags and you'll see if it's properly tagged So purchase single class. Okay, so that's probably tagged. So click on click on your name click on Brandon Okay, and then let's click on Log I believe it is so let's click on the name and then click on I believe it's log at the top Yeah, click on log and then let's see What was sent out so page visit sell So there wasn't an email That was triggered. Do you even have an email that's sent out because because the way you have it in the sequence that's for when That that that that sequence could be could be could be could be set up where okay I purchased a product now and then in the sequence that first email is supposed to go out Right, that's one way you can have that first email sent out So what you're saying is that first email hasn't gone out But what you can also do is you can set it up in my forms. So right here Page visit that would be in my forms or would it be in the thank you page because Ideally it's the land on the landing page They click it goes to the checkout product and then they get the thank you page And then shouldn't it then trigger the sequence or or whenever they purchase that's what triggers That's what triggers that that's what triggers any email So what I'm saying is that an email that that email like for example, thank you for purchasing right that first email It can either go out through my forms to the left or it can go out through your sequence But either way on the sequence you're saying it's not going out and that's right not not all the time Yeah, not not all the time and and Yeah, so that that's okay, so right here it would it would say if it went out So obviously it did not go out. I don't see any email sent Where where would it show that it did go out right there where it says refund page visit sell It would also say email sent and description. It would it would be the title of that email So, you know, you'll know what email went out. It'll say email sent rather than refund Under here under there. Yeah the description Well the event is refund page visit sell the event would be email sent and then yeah The description would be the title of that email Even if there was a refund that went out with it. Yeah, because they still they still they purchase they Email and then they refund so this just literally tracks every activity by by the second It's all real time But either or I don't see email sent so that's kind of that's kind of the problem there check out check out the The other two real quick just go to them and see if that email Because sometimes a customer might hit you up and be like, hey man, you know I didn't get the email and then it's in their spam, right? But okay, but but I'll come here and I'll and I'll know if it was even sent so page visit page visit page visit Sell so after the sell happened on April 3rd at 9 17 There was never an email sent That's that's the problem, right? so Let's go back to so let's let's exit out of this and Go to go to my forms real quick click on my forms to the left Which form is set up for for that? For you know what well you can also do actually he for that one he I don't think he created a there's no form, right? There's no force. So go to my products Okay, got my products products. We have okay, so go to that Specific product and let's go in and and and edit real quick Man, you got a lot of work done bro since last time we spoke I've been playing around with it some of it's incomplete, but some of it is done and ready to go Yeah, I try to get it done man Awesome. So yeah, click on edit and then let me look at this real quick edit product Yeah, I have the downtime now money's well crank this stuff out. Is it is it pretty crazy in your area or what man? Yeah, like we're we're like less than 10 miles outside of New York City and obviously they're getting pretty hard So it's just a dense population area. I think my county has the second highest Outbreaks in the in the state. So a lot of people are staying home Man dude, yeah, so I sat down two weeks ago Yeah, now we're finally, you know here hearing stuff in my in my actual city Yeah, okay, what city are you gonna in California? Yeah, I'm in San Diego. Okay. Oh, that's area man. Yeah, man. So Crazy times real crazy times. So hit hit next real quick save and next yeah, and then pricing so that's 39 and Then scroll down. Okay. So save and next and then pages so the thank you page Is that the is that the thank you page the product? Yes? Okay, perfect. Okay. Yeah Okay, so hit the green one save and then save it next and then check out Okay, got that got that. Okay, perfect. And then saving saving next Okay, so let me see the Your custom. Okay. So what you want to do is you want to Okay, so this this might be the problem is that when when they go and purchase that They're not tight any list you have them on a sequence, but you don't have them on a list Okay so Right here your customers list. They're they're not going anywhere So, okay, so, okay, do they need to I thought after you could just set tag people on what they did I think they do I think they do need to go to a list man I don't think I don't think I ever heard where a person buys a product and then they're automatically on a sequence They have to be on a list as well Okay, so so yeah Edit that part make sure they're on a list and then and then you're tagging your customers, which is correct And then yeah that they purchase We even had it like we're playing around with this We had it where they clicked on the email or they purchased or like we've tried different tags Okay, but what one one one test you can also do is now that we have them on a list So now we're telling the system. Hey when they purchase put them on this list So now we what we can test is we can go into the sequence and Rather than having the starting role based on the tag put the starting role based on the list that they're up that they're going on Okay, okay, so that that's one way to To test it as well, but let me just see if I go either way it should work though If this is the missing piece either way it should work. Yeah. Yeah, exactly exactly. Okay, so Definitely want to test again. So click save it next. Okay, and then and then what type of part is this your book? No, this is not the book that one I actually had a create an Adobe like e-book. So it looked nice and I just did that today So I have to get that up and going. This is we're hosting a virtual training Package or classes for the next couple weeks. Awesome. Okay, so then the product is set up right Go to go to my forms real quick. Let's go to that and to because there is an initial form, right? They do opt into something right or do they go or do they just go straight to a product page? No, so this one was set up for go straight to a product page So this well the way we have it right now It's not even an ad because this group of people we know so yeah, yeah, we're we're putting it in there It's a it's a runners group. So We have a page in their email So basically they're getting the initial landing page link they click on the link it brings them to the landing page and then it starts from there Okay, so then one thing you you may want to put in for sure is a form So when they click on that initial page, they opt into a form That that even though we even though we have their email stuff like email information ready Yes, even though you have their email information because now you're putting them into the cartridge system So now they're now they're stepping into the cartridge ecosystem and and what triggers everything is a form Okay, so so that could be another another missing piece when they when they come to that initial page Not this not the not the sales page, but there should be a page before that like a landing page Yeah, I'll show you that so yeah, show me that make sure we're the same. Yeah, that pair So this one do you want to open it or just yeah? Yeah for sure Okay, and and here's another thing too. You for sure for sure Want to have this page go to a form? because because If you're taking me straight to this page and all I got to do is click the blue button And I'm on a product page and then I can decide if I want to buy or not Mm-hmm. You're missing out on all the people who didn't buy at that given time Okay, even even if we have a tag like abandoned cart. It's not gonna track them Especially especially if you have an abandoned cart because the abandoned cart tag cannot track Who that is? Because they're they never opted into a form Okay, that makes sense. Yeah So your tag right now your current, you know issue that tag is not reading the person who opted in But your but but I get how you're thinking as well You're thinking okay. Why opt-in when they purchased the product and then I tagged them, right? That's how you're you could be you know possibly thinking. Yeah, but at the same time it all it all starts with this with this page right here Rather than having a single virtual class Okay, I would I would I would put something like click here to learn more and Then and then and then right when they click on the blue button an opt-in form comes up And now I got that naming email once they click submit then they go to the product page Okay, right so the product page is then linked to the opt-in form the product page is then linked to the to the opt-in form Yes, yes, so now what we do is we go into my forms and That specific form we're gonna tell Cartra anyone who fills out that form Then they go to the product page Okay, okay, so now now that person's in the system now the tags can all make sense on who's opted into what? That that that's another thing that I would for sure do And another reason why as I mentioned is that because when once I click on that blue button And I go to that next page there's gonna be X amount that don't purchase But I but there was an interest and I still need that name and email Yeah, I still want that name and email, right? So you're losing without the opt-in form. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So That's one thing right there is that opt-in form. So if you Go ahead. I'm sorry. Is there is there a way to like if I don't even click this To have a pop-up form like they can't do anything else like that opt-in form becomes like a pop up layover Is that what it's called? Oh, here we go like if we do one of these things Yeah, you can you can do that for sure. Can that become the pop-up or the opt-in form or no? No, you don't really want that because that okay. I mean, yeah You don't you don't really want that because once they come to the page You're gonna just automatically freak them out with a pop-up You want that on the exit? So if you go back to pop-ups Like so for example if they come to this page and let's just say they hover over the blue button But then they end up come to the top and X and out I can have an X an exit pop-up Which would make more sense? So, okay, so click on pop-up pop-ups real quick and just scroll up above 10 Yeah, all the way up No, I was like up to the top of the page at the top. Yeah, see so right there exit pop-up If anything actually go back to landing page pop-up and click the blue make it go to gray Yeah, so let's get rid of that one So if anything an exit pop-up would be would be cool Because that that pops up right when someone goes to exit the page So they come to the they didn't click the blue button they go and exit and we have a pop-up Hey, wait, wait one more minute. Don't leave just yet. You know what I mean? So that's your last your last chance to get them off in All right, so let me just give you a little insight why Anton my my trainer designed it this way He he wanted this and then I think he had an actual pop-up come up here after 10 seconds or six seconds or whatever where We were trying to get people more so to buy this one than the single one That's not what it was. Okay. That's okay. So he yeah, you know, that's fine. That's so so for example the way the That's exactly the process for sure like great strategy That's exactly what you want to do is upsell them on a higher package for sure But it's not right there. What I would do is I would again on the blue button I would say something like learn more something like less aggressive and non-attractive Is that is that the right word? Like, you know You know buy, you know now so that blue button could say something like learn more or click here for more information They click it they opt in Then they go to the sales page when they go and purchase that first product at 899 They go and purchase that you they click purchase They're then taken to a second page which tells them about the 30 999 So would I create a different upsell page in general for that? Yes. So and that's that's done in my product So we'll need another page for the 3999 But that would be done in in my products All right So then two questions of that and I think part of the reason why he created this way because this was a group of people We already knew and had a basis from so it was just like yeah for sure like to sign up Yeah, but I totally get what you're saying with that After this then that leads me to another question Because I was playing around with one of the upsell forms Mm-hmm and the copy on that was just like so long and I wanted to get your perspective on the long form I think they called it a long form copy Like what do you leave in what do you not because then I just feel like a cheap use car salesman like we've all seen those Those ads and landing page where you just keep scrolling. Oh, yeah, dude Well, wait, this is another reason why wait hold on right now. You if you buy now, you'll get something else wait But more like I Personally, I don't want to I don't feel like that's I don't want that message to come across Yeah, I don't like that way So can I chop it down even though they have all this copy for there? Oh heck? Yeah, bro You can delete all that shit heck Yeah, especially these people like I think it was a Frank Curran's one So like here we have a guy who's like really good at writing copy and I'm believing his shit because I think mine's better Like I don't know like so I just want to get your perspective. Oh for sure for copies yet For sure for sure But then again, you may have you may have looked at the wrong template You may have looked at one template that was completely long form and meant for long form There's a ton of other templates that are super short, but he but he but on the upsell to really keep it simple Here's just a suggestion. I mean you have all the knowledge Like you have you have crazy knowledge on this topic What I would do is I would say on that blue button learn more or whatever that that non-aggressive type of you know Approach could be learn more. It's simple. They click on it Optin form pops up. They enter their name and email. They go to the sales page They click on buy now for 899. They're then taken not to the checkout They're then taken to a second page Which which is the one you're talking about but that long form page is not a long form page that that next page Is a video. I don't know how how comfortable you are with that, but you have so yeah, where I would do the upsell with you on video Hey guys, thank you so much for purchasing the 899 899 But don't click don't check out just yet. Here's what I also want to tell you about this 3999 product Here's why it makes so much sense. I would make that a video. I would make that an upsell Five five minute three minute four minute video and and and then and then give them the option to to purchase it from there So suggestion how how would I give them? The option so that's an upsell. What if I don't want the upsell? What if I want them to have an option? Hey, you could either buy this 899 one Yep, or you can buy this 3999 one, which you get way more for so Mm-hmm. Can that one be done in the same page or would you still have? Oh, yeah. No for sure, you know, so Strong out No, for sure. It sure can because all it all it is is let's say for example It is a video. Let's say it's a video and then the blue button is No, thanks Brandon. I'll just take the 899 and then there and then to the right of it There's a green button that says I'll take 3999 and that's on one page So they can either click the blue button or the green button And if they click the blue it takes them straight to the checkout for 899 if they click the green which is right next to it It takes them to the 3999 checkout. So there's two checkouts now Does that make sense? Yeah, so basically that's what we have here out. You would make that after the opt-in page After after the opt-in page, but after also after once they click on 899 So once they think they haven't even they haven't even saw your your your your 3999 yet, right? So yeah, so but but here they do right here. They're seeing both right now I want to take them through a funnel where they only see 899 right now And when they click on it thinking that they're buying that only I then take them to a second page Which is the long form Frank Kern when but we're gonna chop it up where it's just a video I would recommend and on that page Then they still have the 899 option and now they also have the 39 option Okay, so Let me let me let me I know there's 10 I know there's done for you funnels in here that have that exact Funnel layout already, but really all it is is another page. It's it's yeah, it's it's one extra page That's all it is it's one extra page and that's the upsell page and then on that upsell page They still have the option. No, thanks Brandon. I'll just take 899 and they click that button Or they click the 3999 button and so No, finish where you're saying no, no, so what whatever button they click on it doesn't matter. That's fine They're then taken to to the checkout So I think he made What you were we're talking about here. We just It was it was a redirection page. We didn't have a video. We didn't have an opt-in opt-in form. That's the only thing so So we have to add that add in The opt-in form. Yes, and for the very beginning right in the very beginning. Yes. Yeah Yeah, we have to add that in that opt-in pay that opt-in form for sure add that in for sure Because even though you guys are sending this link out to a warm market a group people that already familiar with you We still have to be able to know who the hell opted in Correct, right? Like cuz right now the way we have it set up. We don't know who's clicking on it, right? So, yeah, yeah So we want to be able to track it all from the from the moment they land on the first page opt-in if this interests you opt-in You know or more Yeah, this I thought this page was what you're talking about what we didn't we didn't create that Yeah, I totally go we saying yeah, this is a perfect example. So scroll down. So right there So scroll down that that right there could be a video or it could be a cells a cells message whatever But that's what I'm talking about the to learn mores down and then boom. Boom. Yeah, so so I can click 899 or I can click 3999 Correct. Okay, right. So we would yeah, so we make we we can make this the video After the opt-in page they come in Here's the video and then we have 899 or 3999. Is that what you're saying? Not necessarily. Yes, but not necessarily. Let me explain as they come to the very first landing page and they click on that blue button to learn more Yes, they then opt-in and then we take up to the 899 cells page Okay, only the 899 only the 899 only the 899. I'm not showing them 39 right now Once they end up clicking purchase for 899 They they click on that button and the way you guys have it set up right now is they click on it And they go straight to a checkout. I'm saying have them click on it and go to another page where this is there Have them go to this page and then and then on this page. It's gonna be a video of me Pitching them why they need to go 39 and Again based on whatever they want to do. Okay, at least there there's now the two options They and that's why the only people who are seeing this are the people who actually went to purchase 899 Yeah, okay Right because although we may think logically. Okay, let me show them both packages now No, I don't want to show them both packages now. I need it. I need to wait till the end I'm gonna show them 39. That's that that's what a technically what a quote-unquote upsell is you don't see that So until you're through the funnel Okay, until until until I already have you pulling out your credit card Yeah, so I totally get what you're saying I think where I was getting confused was I was playing around with one of the Other upsells and it was a upsell in the term of they can buy product a and then product B as well Mm-hmm and not like an and or like this is we just want them to buy one of the other versus what I was playing around with before was By this one include a bump offer in it and then have an upsell after that and it was just like, you know Teared that way so now they're buying all three of those products gotcha gotcha So so is this an and or This is a yeah and or one of the other yeah one of the other right? Yeah So yeah, so that that's how you how you want to do it and I tell you truth. It's the landing page Let me tell you exactly how many pages the entire funnel would consist of the landing page They opt into that page and then they go to your 899 sells page Which is our second page they click the buy now for 899 and then it takes them to our third page Which is that video page now? I'm telling them about the upsell on That third page. That's what I'm giving them these two options That's it. Okay So so the tags The tags are based on the opt-in form as well Even though even though it can be based on the purchase, but I think I think that opt-in form has something to do with it for sure Okay, so I come to your landing page. Yeah. Yeah have me opt-in first. You need that name and email first Gotcha landing page Have an opt-in our page 2 is that 899 they click that it takes us to the video and the upsell which is page 3 So it's gonna be 3 so they're telling me before because I'm gonna have a thank you Exactly, you're gonna have for the buy it's actually 5 because now it's a it's a it's a it's a different Thank You page for the second product. Well, yeah, okay, so yeah, correct, right? Yeah, and we have the two different. Thank You pages correct. Yes So and so just just as I mentioned in the email the conversions That conversions also that Thank You page. That's what you set as a custom conversion on in Facebook Yes, okay, okay, so All right, so yeah, all right, so all right if I go back and edit this and The email sequence doesn't work That's a culture problem and I need to reach out to them most like yes Yeah, for sure because everything everything is there but here, you know what? Let's exit out of this real quick saving saving and Publish or publish. Yeah publish live Let's get out of this real quick and let's go to Let's go to My communications So now we set up we set up the product the product is good with the tag But then we also set up the actual list. So now that now whoever buys that product is going to that actual list But what you also want to set up is the form so whoever fills out that form They go to that list They need to go to a list as well So so on that landing page, whatever form you tie to that landing page make sure you also tied to a list It all starts with that list Not the sequence Make the tag it starts with that list So if you have to create a new form for that new yeah, yeah Then then you know then create a new form but um and And it's yeah, so and then it's in that form that you're gonna set it up where when they fill out this form They go to this page Which is the 899 page? Okay, so Let's go to so so now let's go to let's go to sequences and Then this is a an edit that I'll have you do and then just test it test it from here So let's go back to that sequence and rather than rather than tagging them Let's change it to Whoever fills out the form So, I mean they give you all those options. Can't can you make it all of them? Or is it better off just to make it? One or another yeah, it's better off to make it one or the other Now now based on on how you set it up. You did it, right? I'm just I'm just I don't know why that tag isn't triggering what I can think of as a form because Okay That could be affecting the tag So One test made it off the tag and not the form. So you you're saying make it the opt-in form Yeah, make it the form. So let's go select category but also in in product when you had to go to product We went to I forget what page it was but basically was a subscription list. There was nothing there I had a tie to something. So that could have been it too as well. Oh, yeah. Yep Mm-hmm. So we didn't create an opt-in form So there's nothing to click it to tie it to yet. So go ahead and create one then right here You can click so get out of this part and it should say right there. Actually, it doesn't okay So yeah, you have to create an opt-in form. That's fine. We started it. We just never finished it That's fine. So I would then tie it to this opt-in form Yeah, and then do it that way and remove this tag exactly get rid of that exactly and then it should the cascade should should flow Yes, okay. Yes for sure For sure for sure And let's see what else could it be Go to and so what's super important is is these emails down here is yeah The tags the tags on that on that is super important, but you had it set up, right? So it can't be it can't be that These emails are all based on yes who fill out the form who has the tag but then also right here it's also Reading the tag the recipients so that parts that parts right so all I can really think of is the fact that there Was never an opt-in form So the system didn't even know who was in that who was in that funnel Prior to the tag even being applied Yeah Does that kind of make sense? Yeah, it makes total sense. Yeah, so And then yeah, so let's exit out of this part. So that part That part set up right The list is also set up now. So now people who buy that product they're on that list Just yeah, so just tie a form tie a form to that first landing page that blue button needs to pop up a form Okay, and that's all that's all that could be wrong with them And if that doesn't fix it then yeah wait on on Karcha's email Because they'll go for sure though. They get back within 24 hours You'll never go 24 hours where you don't hear from them like they'll get back within 24 hours for sure Has it been 24 hours you coming up on it if not exceeded we filled it out What's it Friday? So yeah, it was filled that yesterday to support ticket probably around this time three four o'clock How did how did you do it? What did you do? I didn't fill it out my my Anton my performance trainer coach was filled it out What what I was the one deal with it what what I always do is that's one way to do it too But it tells you that I never ever ever filled out a support ticket. I always just email them So support at Karcha calm I always just email them with my problem and here's another thing what I always were not always But what I probably do maybe maybe maybe maybe seven out of ten times is all literally record a short video And I'll tell them exactly what's going on in my video Okay, that right there is way way better So if like what we're doing here if we were to take this clip and send it to them But not make it as long maybe maybe make it, you know, two three minutes if that and Email support at Karcha email them your video and that would help out tremendously as well Gotcha, okay, cool. I use zoom for that, you know Just record a quick video and then I'll email it to them or I'll take that zoom video upload it to YouTube and send them my YouTube link Okay, I'll just put the video on YouTube. I'll put it unlisted. So it's not, you know on my YouTube page You know, I'll just put it unlisted and so they'll be able to see it and know what the hell You know I'm talking about because writing writing this stuff out could be could be weird too You know someone reading on the other end. They're like damn What's this guy talking about? They know what you're talking about but at the same time writing it It's very very different than me verbally visually showing you what the hell my problem. Yeah, of course Okay, so that's what I would start doing. I would start saying them video for sure. I got you And then also also, do you ever use the have you added yourself to the Karcha Facebook group? Yeah, he did it and was asking some questions that I don't think you got the correct answer that he wanted yet Yeah, that's why I was like alright support ticket and let me reach out to you because yeah, perfect Perfect. Yeah from what I'm seeing man It's it that form has a lot to do with it. The product was never tied to a list You always want to have it tied to a list and then and then and then test the opt-in form on the actual sequence Rather than reading the tag on the starting rule. Yeah started with the opt-in form Gotcha. Yeah, and then and then always go into the actual you can always go into the list Click on the number pull up that lead or go into leads and find that lead click on it And then always check the log see if that email was even sent. Yeah, I didn't know they had a log This is you know very very detailed Yeah, dude, and that's real time. So it'll let you know what happens and you know by the second on that lead and The sales will reflect that to basically Hell yeah, yeah So we could track it Question have you like all your your YouTube videos do you upload them into cartridges my videos or Or maybe your Facebook course that you're making it are those Uplated to my videos in a membership section or something. I haven't gotten that far yet I just want to know it does it slow down cartra or or the web page Having all these videos uploaded very very good question. I Have both I do both I do both so actually actually I do three There's three different ways that I that I do it only because of you're right because it doesn't slow down the system It doesn't slow down your page. It doesn't slow down the loading It can actually it can slow down the loading based on how big the video is So if I uploaded that video to cartra and that's and it's a huge video It's a long video then it can slow down the loading of the page for sure So what three ways I do it one way one one way I do it is I'll put Just like like a random video like for example These video the video that you that we're talking about as far as on the upsell page That video I can easily put on cartra like that because because it's it's one video It's on one page and I can I can host that on cartra Correct, so any any so any video like that I can for sure host it on cartra But if I have a ton of videos which is in my memberships So in my case I have a ton like I have a membership course not the Facebook one yet But I have another course which is for realistic agents and in my memberships under my course. I have 50 videos And so it doesn't it doesn't slow down the page But what it does do is it increases the bandwidth which which which alters how much you're spending monthly for cartra So if you had a shitload of videos on Cartra and they were all running by a ton of people every day your bandwidth is gonna be so high where cartra It's no longer 99 you're gonna start spending a couple hundred a couple hundred a month on just cartra Because of the bandwidth that you're using because these videos are hosted on cartra Okay, so so if it's a membership so to make to make to really make make clear what I'm saying If it's a membership course and you have more than more than 10 videos, right? I have 50 videos in a course for what I do those videos I hosted on Vimeo and So with you still keep you still keep Vimeo that because I have Vimeo and I was gonna get rid of it because This can host it, but if it's gonna slow it down. No, no It Vimeo is only needed if you have a shitload of videos Yeah, I have a bunch of online courses that are in person that I want to make online and some other things so for a course Yeah, online course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah those those videos I would I would host on Vimeo Okay, and it's not it's not it's not because it's gonna slow anything down It's all because I don't want to be spending a few hundred a month for cartra Like I'm trying to keep that that expense as low as possible Because I have a ton of videos. It's gonna just eat at my bandwidth Doesn't Vimeo Charge you more for each video. I think right no, they don't charge you they don't charge you per video But they do charge you annually. So I think I spent I think I and it's not exactly cheap But at the same time it I think it is I mean I think I I think I spent and you're gonna need you can't use the free one You got to upgrade to the to the business one or whatever the hell they call it But I think I spent like I think it was like two. I think it was like 220 for the year Okay, and how many videos are you hosting on Vimeo on there cuz because right now I have 40 40 videos on like I'm hosting all of my videos for my course on Vimeo Okay, but any random one-off video for a page is on cartra. So do you then link your your Your membership to Vimeo or whatever that's integrated. So they're on they're still on cartra or you know Subdomain of your website, but you brought it to to Vimeo. Yes. So Yeah, let me let me let me share my screen real quick. Yeah So let me let me let me show you. Can you see my cartra account? Yeah Okay, so here's the way the way it works. So I'll I'll record that video on my, you know On my camera or whatever right here and then I'll take that video from my computer and then I'll upload it to Vimeo, right? And then in Vimeo Each video obviously has its own, you know, share link That's the link that I then put into Cartra. So for example, here is one of my videos and I have so on here I have Go to manage my videos go to my videos. I everything for my actual training course is right here So I have modules and in each module. There's the welcome video. There's a bonus Module which is 25 videos module five has four videos Module eight module four has eight. So I just have a ton of these videos Module one two three four five. So any any video. So let's go to any random video This one right here all I do is I just grab the link and Then I put and then I and then I paste that link. So right here I'll go to share and then I'll go to copy in bed code That's what I'm embedding into Cartra. So now the bandwidth isn't affecting Cartra The bandwidth is coming from Vimeo, but it's but it's still on a cartra. It's still on Cartra So I come over here to my memberships And this could be in any in on any page in any video section actually, you know what I can just let me just show you from any Any video. I don't have to go into the course. Let me show you any random So on my pages Let's say let's say this video right here. So if I come in here and this is the second way So so when it comes to my membership course a ton of videos those are on Vimeo Run one off videos just random videos on like it's not it's not that it's a random That's that's not the exact word, but the one video for your upsell for example. Yeah, that could be on Cartra Okay, and then and then any other video I I could I could for sure put a YouTube link And I have a ton of pages that that are random. We're all sending email Like if you're on any of my email list, I sent out an email and When you click whatever the hell I'm trying to you know mention when you click in that email It'll take you to a cartridge page where on that page is my YouTube video So that's the third way so so so some pages I'll have a YouTube video on that some page my membership course are all Vimeo videos and then and then and then an Upsell page for example could be hosted on Cartra So here's a regular page regular Cartra page and then over here all I do is I just hover over the video Come over here to the edit and right here it's gonna give me the option I'll just go Vimeo and I'll paste in that Vimeo link and then I'll click apply Gotcha that but that's not for Pages that's for my membership course. That's your membership. Yeah. Yeah, that's it Or I could have just uploaded that video to Cartra and I could have just grabbed the video here But again, that's if you have a ton of videos, you don't want to you don't want to do it through Cartra Okay, it's just the one-offs the upsell page if I just have a couple of those. That's totally fine. Yeah All right, I mean, I'm a little bit away from creating the membership I just want to yeah, well, how did you when you when you upload it to Vimeo? It it condenses the actual size So it'll take it from like a huge size of a file down to a smaller when you upload the video to YouTube It then it then conduct condenses the size as well and now it makes it a smaller size file So when the page loads it loads fast So any random video that you do on your on your phone or your camera in your camera Before you upload it to Cartra if you are gonna upload it to Cartra like the upsell video for example I would have it condensed and So there's there's like free software that you can you can do that It's like and you can do it with images as well because files That's what slows down the the loading of a page is the fact that the file whether it's an image or a video It's a large file. Yeah, that's what slows down the loading of a page So if you are gonna ever put a video on on on Cartra and host it there not Vimeo not YouTube You want to run it through you want to run it through this software right here first Because it's gonna take your large file And make it a smaller one Okay, and then I want to take that small file and upload that to Cartra. Okay So this way you make a note for your guy for this one handbrake okay if if I make a landing page and I You know once it's all done and everything with the video can I think delete the video off of Cartra or does it then remove it from the video because it's no longer there? Very good question. No, you want to you have to leave it on Cartra. It has to you have to okay, even with images to yeah Okay, so yeah, so it's called handbrake. Correct. Yeah, handbrake To condense the size of the file whether it's an image or a video and that allows the page to load faster Wow, who knew? That's golden information. Yeah for sure for sure for sure So so those random pages that you have an upsell or just here and there you could for sure host them on Cartra Just run them through handbrake and run them through handbrake first Yeah And the reason why and in the reason why you don't want that to be on YouTube like let's say for example I go and buy the 899 I click on it and then now I'm taken to an upsell page and it's you on video the reason why you don't want to have that a YouTube video which it can be but I Don't want to take their attention away from what I'm trying to tell them because when you like with this one for example I'll do it on these pages on certain pages inside of my Cartra I'll put a YouTube video because I'm actually promoting my YouTube channel But if I was trying to keep their attention on buying something I don't want them to kind of this page No, it's a YouTube video and then all of a sudden they click on the damn title and now they're on my YouTube channel watching another random shit Like I so so if you're gonna take me to this page and it's an upsell page this is a video and and and That's hosted on Cartra or or hosted on V meal, but you're not gonna need you V meals for your membership course These other videos you could for sure host them on Cartra because they wouldn't see this title They wouldn't see my profile picture up here where they can then click on it and go and go to my YouTube like I don't want to show them any of that Yeah, you know but again These are pages that I set up that I email to my list and and I actually want them to go to my YouTube channel and And I want to get that credit of them watching it on my view count, right? So yeah, yeah, and then you're able to Make it so your other videos pop up and hopefully to click on your other videos. Yeah. Yeah for sure Yeah, for sure for sure and yeah and ads would run on this and everything so But I wouldn't be taking them here I wouldn't host a YouTube video if it was my membership course for sure like I don't want them watching these videos on my YouTube Inside of my membership course Like I wouldn't do that and and I wouldn't make it an upsell video either YouTube Gotcha So hopefully that makes sense. I know that I know we were kind of all over the place So hopefully no no that's good good stuff man. Like I said, you do a great job explaining it and you know your shit So thanks, bro. Thanks. Just um test test that opt-in form change that yeah On the landing page and then also on the starting rules on the sequence Change that and then and then and then let me know if that works or not man, and we'll jump back on Yeah, we'll do man. Appreciate it. Sounds good, bro. What else anything else? What else you got for me? No, can you just go back actually I just wanted to show you that that long form real quick And yes, so go ahead and go ahead and share your screen So I think I called Yeah, it was yeah, dude, you're using the you're using the book. So that is for your book Okay, so yeah, well, yeah, this was another book. I was I was selling because I have a few I've been wanting to just put out there, but this was more of it. I just wanted to play around with the software As well, so it was kind of it was kind of both. Okay But this one I was like alright if I saw one book Can I bump and give them and do a bump offer for another book and then upsell the third book or something But you totally can you totally can you totally can? But yeah, I just I didn't like this long form Yeah, dude, you can the template is there But don't take it as if it's freaking like, you know God, you know what I mean like you could totally change it You could totally edit it take out the entire bottom half of the whole page like you could totally change it, you know to your liking but um In my case like I'll give you a perfect example. I This is the exact page that I've been using for Forever as far as my book this page right here So it just depends on you know your strategy and what you really want But but here's another thing as people scroll down, right? They're reading all this and then they scroll down and they purchase That's when you take them to your upsell page Yeah, so click here click tear this would go to an upsell page. That would go to an upsell page Yeah, that would that would go to an upsell page Send me the thing they click on it actually, you know what that would go to an actual that would go to a page But it's not exactly it's yeah. Yeah, it is the upsell page. It is the upsell page Because and then they could just check out from there Yeah, I think do you play around a lot with the pre-made ones or you make your own stuff No, dude, I do I use the pre-made ones Because there's so many of them and then I'll just freaking delete, you know Stuff that I don't want from it because you could change you could totally change the whole entire page So I just I go off of the template and then I I just you know change it from there Yeah, this it was where is it think I can't I have to delete this one But yeah, it was see look go to that form and then down sell an upsell. Thank you page Click on click on the upsell real quick. Just hover over the eyeball and click on it. Yeah, click on that Scroll down. See that's what I'm talking about 899 3999 Gotcha that right there is your page bro that one right there. Okay. Okay. I Gotcha and then the video. Yeah. Yeah, dude. That's it now again The reason why I'm saying video is because you know your shit better than anything and you on camera you look good So you got the look you got the knowledge. It's like shit, bro Tell me in a three minute video like why have a long ass freaking 10 paragraphs of all this other random shit When it's like, let me just verbally visually tell you this and I'm telling you man, that's what you're That's what people gravitate to anyways is the real you video Is video and seeing the real Brandon now if we're trying to build a brand without you, okay That's okay, then that's a whole other thing and that's understandable But it but if you don't mind putting yourself in the brand that needs to be video Okay So all my stuff on all and you know what dude? I'm gonna show you exactly how powerful that is Let me let me share this really quick This is what just literally happened Just about an hour ago just and it's the same exact process But instead of taking them to an upsell page where I'm selling them something else in my case What I do is I send them to a thank-you page where I'm getting them a schedule an appointment So I'm selling on my book They go to a thank-you page. Thank you for ordering and then on that page It's me on video Selling them on book and a call so just today bro like at 1035 like right now. It's a lot. It's one o'clock 1035 today This cell just came through so this Sheena she just bought my book for 550 and then she she go look And here's my page same exact freaking Frank Kern shit Long-ass shit. Here's my cells page same exact thing. So there's me and my little boy And then here's my freaking book. So it's the same shit and then they they go to buy it Go to the thank-you page. So that's what happened and then on that thank-you page Is what I'm selling them on to schedule an appointment. And so what just happened is this also came in right after that cell This came in actually I think I deleted it. Let me show you in the trash folder That person that same exact lead So this right here so that same exact lead clicked and scheduled a call So that that exact Sheena So so you get a lead filled out a form I'll get that email and then I'll also get the calendar. So new calendar booking This happened two hours ago. She booked a call. So that's an upsell page I could have easily sold or something else, but I I'm selling her on scheduling a call So went from buying my book to my thank-you page to me telling you hey click the red button to schedule the call and So that's what happened. So that's how I get a lot of appointments, you know for for what I do is I'll You know, they see my book they go to my upsell page and boom they schedule a call Gotcha So you could be doing the same exact thing man in crushing it bro like crushing it I like the model you have here. How long you're gonna take you to bill all the stuff out So it's a couple years. I mean I'm gonna keep it real bro like I'm telling you like Once I got on a cartridge like I have video I documented this whole entire two-year journey I every video is on my YouTube channel like I literally documented the moment. I was signing up for Cartra Like that's on my YouTube channel where I'm actually showing, you know on-screen sure. Hey guys, I'm leaving click bottles I'm coming over to Cartra. I'm gonna show you right now I'm putting in my credit card number and I'm setting up my 14-day trial Like I'm literally recording the whole damn thing and that was in July of 20. I think that was July of 2018 Okay, um, yeah, I think that was July of 2018. It might have been July of 2017 Actually, now I think about it because now it's been about two years, but to answer your question Probably again as I told you on our first call like two weeks. Yeah, like it took me like maybe two or three weeks Familiar with Cartra. I'm talking about like yeah, you have yeah, okay No to get familiar with Cartra, but then right away. I started making sells on it. So yeah, yeah, yeah So so you got to account for the learning curve But if and even if you're delegating this to someone else man, you still want to learn, you know, the shit, too You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, I'm not tell it. I'm that was just you know He has his I don't say his side, but yeah Helping out with some of that stuff and then I'm wanting it to yeah, like I said on the first call I need to learn this stuff. I need to handle the marketing stuff and not outsource it I've been putting time since last Thursday. So it's been a week since Playing around with this bro. You're gonna learn it quick Facebook ads. So yeah, I Truly believe you're way smarter than I am man. You're gonna learn this shit quick I don't want you do it. It's landing pages Facebook ad bro. That's it Yeah, like there's nothing else you need to know man like landing the cartridge system Facebook ads Yeah, you do those two things That's why that's why I'm and I sort of on a video that I think I released I think I released this video yesterday where I'm like, dude I am tired of fishing for people because I truly believe everybody can fish for themselves Everybody can learn every small business owner can learn the marketing site, you know, because it doesn't take much You know, so rather than having to spend a thousand a month or 1500 a month on some marketing person No, dude, like you'll learn this stuff and be able to do this stuff in your sleep Yeah, agreed and it doesn't take much time at all once you learn it, you know Yeah, it's just that upfront cost, but that's anything you got put time and learn it and you know chip away at it And then once you learn it, it's it's all downhill from there Yeah, and and keep it simple to do like start testing this with just a few pages like there's some real freaking, you know like Huge type of sales funnels where it's like so many pages involved keep it simple like with this book start testing Just a couple pages with the 899 39 99 Keep it simple in three four pages like start testing that first before you try to learn even more detailed type of funnels and all this other random shit You know, I got you sounds good man. Get some cells on the board first and then you know go from there Yeah, let's get small wins. Yes small wins, bro. Add up. I love it Awesome. All right, Dave. Thanks again for all your time and stuff Let me know about that that cartoon thing if you need anything else for me It's all good brother drop that that Facebook ads course. I'm definitely looking to buy that and yeah, I'll be in touch, bro It's all good bro. Stay safe man. Hit me up anytime. Yeah, you too. All right, brother. Thanks a lot. Thanks. Bye