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Philip asked me as a kind of preview to this particular interview to give you a little bit of an update on the activities either in the United States or elsewhere where the 9-11 truth movement called truthers for some reason the 9-11 truth movement is still making an effort to bring certain aspects of 9-11 to court and they have to be very careful. One reason is that the FBI has decided that 9-11 truthers could be considered terrorists. Now where they draw the line of course is entirely up to them but if you bring something to bear as a 9-11 truther that has already been established I don't see how the FBI is going to find a way in and on the other hand if you bring something to bear that's completely ridiculous they'll love that because then it makes truthers look all the more silly. I mean for example what if a 9-11 truther came up with the idea that some guy in a cave defeated the entire military apparatus of the United States and caused buildings to collapse symmetrically when they had had asymmetrical damage and shut down the the FAA effectively and caused the FAA to destroy evidence and caused FEMA to destroy evidence I mean a theory like that I suppose the FBI would love that because it's absolutely idiotic so it's interesting to me that the FBI took the steps to announce that truthers could be subjected to a prosecution through terrorism through domestic terrorism and as you probably know if you're watching this that means whatever they want it to mean at the time and it means it's secret so we will talk a little bit about that with Philip Kraski but here's the latest development from the 9-11 truth contingent and this is tiny print I couldn't make it any bigger and it it's hard to read but let me it's important so I'll try to give you some of this. Two fire districts in New York are demanding a reopening of the 9-11 investigation to sum it up they know that explosives were used and they are demanding a real investigation that has every incident and every crime called to account this is new news they just released the following statement the Franklin Square and Munson fire to fire district 9-11 resolution says whereas the attacks of 9-11 2001 were inextricably and forever tied to the Franklin Square and Munson fire department of New York I'm sorry there's a there's a gap in this so it's difficult to piece it together and Thomas J. Herzl badge 290 of Hook and Ladder company the Munson fire department was killed in performance of his duties along with 2976 other emergency responders and civilians and whereas members of the Munson fire department were called upon to assist in the subsequent rescue and recovery operations and cleanup of world trade center site afflicting many of them with illnesses as a result of breathing the deadly toxins present at the site and whereas the board of fire commissioners of the Franklin Square and Munson fire department recognize the compelling nature of the petition before the united states attorney for the southern district of New York reporting unprosecuted federal crimes at the world trade center from 9-11 2001 and calling upon the united states attorney to present that petition to a special grand jury pursuant to the united states constitution etc in said petition said petition demonstrates beyond any doubt that pre planted explosives and and other incendiaries were used and not just airplanes now I did I forget whether it was two or three programs with those people bringing forward the grand jury petition so we will give you further updates as to the success or denial of the petitions and the work of these two fire departments to bring things forward I said when I first heard about the grand jury effort and I interviewed the wonderful people who were bringing that forward I told them that in the past any evidence whatsoever that would obviously lead back to certain parties would be excluded no matter how difficult it was no matter how legally impossible it seemed that evidence would be excluded if it came right to the heart of the Bush administration the deep state and Israel and I particularly mentioned Israel because they were the only party actually caught everything else is you know we we know that Osama bin Laden couldn't do it we know this happened we know that happened but the only people actually caught and well described in the in the newspaper coverage at the time the only people caught were Israelis and Chertof made sure that that got taken care of and they got sent back to Israel so here we are today in a situation where the evidence is coming it's not new but it's finding its way into the court system into the legal system and so as a journalist I'm interested in seeing how that evidence is either ignored or buried or swept aside just as other evidence has been swept aside in the past and I primarily today want to talk about this wonderful book but then Philip Kraski and I will tell you a little bit about the importance of the historical importance of certain events over the years in this country 9-11 being the one we're going to focus on to me it shows a little bit about me and that I'm not married to the idea of the United States government is always good it always has good intentions that is to say and it sometimes makes mistakes I think that's an idiotic idea and we can talk about that today I have seen in my questioning of officials in the past that they simply no matter what no matter what kind of evidence is possible they will not look at it privately publicly ever they simply will not look at the evidence and that's a combination of willing ignorance and it's also involves the cover-up of evidence that will lead in the wrong places so these people just pretend whether it's you know Bernie Sanders or anybody they just pretend that the whole concept of 9-11 truth is carried out by questionable people who have nothing better to do and not by patriots who would give their lives for the truth to come out and for the guilty people to be prosecuted so with that rather long introduction I will ask Philip Kraski to tell us a little bit more about himself because you may have missed the first two interviews we did and also tell us give us his own introduction to 119 and the terrorist who loved bonsai trees okay take it away Philip well thank you Jim it's good to be on with you again um anyways just briefly the the story which I don't want to go into too much because we've talked about it previously but I'll just give you a brief rundown um 119 and the terrorist who loved bonsai trees is a a thriller and it starts when Trudy who is a conservative quiet statistician arrives at her new company a digital marketing firm to start her first day of work the company is in a converted brownstone in jersey city which is right across the river from Manhattan she goes in and she sees these paramilitary guys all over the place and a bunch of dead people laid out in the living room one of the militaries try paramilitaries tries to grab her but she manages to get away 20 minutes later a car with six terrorists who just botched their job of planting a bomb in the empire state building pulls up to the same house with the police on their tail they run inside a hostage standoff begins the hostages now ostensibly being the employees of the company well this ends badly and the majority of the terrorists are discovered to be Iranian well the US now wants to go to war with Iran so what we have is actually a false flag op that ends in war with Iran which might sound familiar so on one side the story is about Trudy now presented to the public as one of the terrorists running from the people chasing her because she knows that the whole event was staged and on the other side is paul clippen an american state department official who's trying to keep a deep state cabal from starting war with Iran um and i'll give your listeners a hint jim trudy and paul have met before okay anyways that's what the book is about and uh i uh bow in april and i've been quite happy uh sort of a steady trickle of sales that's good and even some of my some of my old books my my previous four titles have uh awakened a little interest so that's uh that's good news so and anyways as to me i i live in uh a little town a little village that goes back two thousand years north of madrid about 50 yards down the street from where i live there are also there is some of these old ones uh from 2000 years ago uh just down the street from where i live so well anyways how's that how's that for an intro well thank you it's romantic is what it is it is romantic back also about a thousand years it was actually put up by the uh arab state as the entrance to their mosque and they could from the top it's about oh i would say about seven stories high and it commands a view from the bell tower way up high it's quite a it's quite an interesting town hmm well it's compelling now i now i really want to go there so yeah that's the nice thing about spain you know it's one of the reasons i really like cycling every five seven miles you've got a little town that you know goes back a thousand years or so and uh beautiful way well i'm i'm glad it's still there yeah i absolutely i lived near i lived in bezelsault france for a while and we were near some charming places like that like pantalier and other small towns in france where the stone homes were built up along the river and so you you couldn't have a more picturesque and romantic lifestyle than to live in a stone home built you know a thousand or hundreds of years ago on a crystal clear river that flows through your little town um yeah yeah that's the nice thing about spain and france the whole the whole country is just one huge museum and you can just go forever just looking at things now yeah but hopefully it can remain that way but that's another topic all together so uh as far as the book is concerned one of the things that you will learn reader gentle reader is that the players on both sides of the table whether they're trying to create war with iran which is on one side or whether they are trying to stop war with iran which is on the other side everyone in the book knows that it is absolutely pointless to bring factual evidence to the media and i i can't emphasize strongly enough that it goes without saying to these people they know that the everybody in the book knows that the deep state and the media are if not exactly the same thing they are married closely and so the protagonists the good guys and the heroes have to do what they do knowing that and there's no preaching about it there's there's no lesson it's just a given in the book and i certainly appreciate that because in real life you meet people who seem to be still enamored of the mainstream press and the mainstream and the alternative media for that matter many of them because such things as what actually happened on 9 11 are never ever mentioned other than to reinforce the lie that we were told on 9 11 the lies about the four disappearing planes and the other fantastical events that occurred are accepted now as legend and myth and there's no point in saying anything about them which makes this legal effort uh which gives a certain amount of importance to the legal effort because there are people higher up as you go throughout the legal system who are also well aware that any move they make in the direction of 9 11 truth could be career ending that's real life that's not just what happens in the book and we know that because i have since i followed this and i've reported it and i've interviewed people whose careers have been ended i'm well aware of the power of that lie and how important it is for them to maintain that lie and so i'm going to ask philip a question that he and i have been sort of playing with which is the importance of 9 11 historically and not just the importance of the event but the importance of the ramifications of the event so if that wasn't too convoluted a question i'll turn it over to philip avoids 9 11 and you know something uh what i i've seen a month not just that they avoided but the mainstream reporters really resent the truthers because the truthers essentially have scooped them they have gotten to the story and the reporters haven't and they don't want to admit that in the second place the the truthers have the freedom to really go after the truth and reporters mainstream reporters i'm talking about here they do not have that freedom and they resent it because they know they know that there's more to this story than they've been able to report and of course 9 11 is the biggest the biggest mass uh massacre uh in american history even just a massacre of civilians of people uh just at work going about their jobs it's probably the biggest crime in american history um and yet reporters cannot go there and i think that's one reason that they hate the truthers the other thing is that reporters generally are conservatives in the sense that they are real believers in the system and they don't want to rock the boat you see all those reporters going after the the uh stories of behind the candidates and this and that and they really believe in this system of finding out the truth and the candidates and an election and a democracy and they don't want to rock the boat and they don't want to offer a story that says well this whole thing has really been a lie so anyways that's uh my point about that as to as to 9 11 in history um it's um i would say there are two things that are are really at play the first is in the classic decline of america the classic decline of empire than america's following 9 11 marks the beginning of the drive for power of the military security sector this is this is my opinion they are replacing the rich plutocracy that to a large extent began with the ring and administration that's when really the divergence and income equality really started to take off in the 60s and 70s 50s there the income equality was really not so bad in america but in the 80s it really took off and now what we're seeing is uh the plutocracy which is the next to last step in the decline of empire being followed by a military dictatorship and this is the the military security sector now taking over the country from forms of democracy are always kept in place now you see this very clearly with the homeland security department which is now the third largest uh with defense um and second then completely changed the conversation before we had communism and now we have terrorism which suits the the deep state much more because as you were talking about before jim terrorism is a ghost terrorism is whatever you you want it to call whatever you want to call it's essentially a ghost any this is why we have homeland security which is placed on top of the cia fb i et cetera that we have but this is as i say to me 9 11 of course well and to pick up on what you said about terrorism being a ghost that way they get to invent the scenario continually over and over again and the the to me the fact that terrorism is an invention for that purpose is a something that angers me every time i think about it angers me no end because it it it changed the conversation but it changed the way we all live it changed the way we fly on an airplane it changed the way we we walk into a building it changed everything and it was all created with the myth of 9 11 and so it's so important to keep the idiots the sheep the way that you want to keep them if you can't maintain that myth then maybe there'll be a few more sheep who step out of the flock and more a few more people who are thinking about what actually happened to them and and to me that includes the monetary system the web of debt hegemony over everything and the taking over of territory the slaughter of pallets palestinians sort of fits into that too and the number of americans you find who think it's perfectly okay for israel to slaughter palestinians because and they give you the quote you know they give you the same old crap no matter what the evidence is israel has a right to defend itself end of discussion for them that's that's it so that there are a lot of ends of discussions for these people because they're incapable of following the logic to the next step now we have one minute left so philip uh what do you have to say about that has ever asked why destroy the buildings why not just ram the ram the two buildings with is just what you're talking about jim you had to really terrify the country so you had to bring the the buildings down they had to with you know the risk of of detection and so on and so they had to mine the buildings with explosives and that was really the point that was going to terrify people and it worked very well one thing you have to say about the people who did 9 11 they had a lot of vision and uh that's uh when you look at it very carefully like that it was very carefully planned and very carefully brought off yeah and they knew that they had the media behind them all the way no matter how badly they got caught the media would cover up for them well nine seconds left thank you everyone for listening and uh hopefully we will be back with part four thank you