 You have an opportunity now to see what pigs are going through in these chambers. So look at that. Look at these four animals. I can only see all of these just properly. And I'll hand that over to you. Please just have some humanity. I'll be going down as big as we're going to eat more. Pigs in your advertising. Affairs director, I hear. OK. Have you heard what we've been chanting? I haven't actually, I've just heard. OK, so essentially the reason we're here is because pigs are being tortured in CO2 gas chambers. I don't know if you know about that. I don't, but I'm a bit aware of it. OK, you should inform yourself. Me and my team got the first footage from the inside of a gas chamber in the UK. Where is this happening? It's happening in gas chambers all over the UK. I think it's happening in all of them. 90% of the pigs in the UK are being gassed in CO2. OK. OK. And we know for a fact, for a 100% fact that you are being supplied to by companies, at gas pigs. Do you know the name of those companies? So I can look into it. You don't know who supplies you with pork? I do know who supplies the pork. OK. And you don't know how they kill the pigs? I don't know that detail, but I can go look into it. But if you give me the names of the companies, I'm likely to be more than one. Yeah, well, I can tell you the names of the companies that do this to pigs, and then maybe you can see if they're supplying you. So I don't think Pilgrim's Pride is, but Pilgrim's UK is one. Yeah, I've heard of that one, actually, but I don't think it is. Kranzwick is another one. Kranzwick is one of our suppliers, yep. Oh, I know. Caro Foods, I think maybe you should look into Kranzwick if they supply you. They do supply one at a time. OK. And what would you do if footage come out of one of your suppliers, CO2 gas chambers? What would you do? I need to look into the issue more closely, because I don't understand. Do you have to make any, what's your, what power do you have at this company? So I'm the director of corporate affairs. OK. So when issues like this are happening here, there's my responsibility to look into them. OK. I don't know the specific one and enough detail to understand it at the moment, but I will look into it and see if it's your contact details. We're saying let the customer make an informed choice. They are buying this packaging and this marketing. Right. You're allowing the industry too much. We need a free market where people can make informed decisions and say that by definition these pigs are being tortured. Right. By every scientific study done on this topic. Right. I will look into that, because I don't understand the issue. OK. Well, you should be informed, which is gross negligence. That is gross negligence, because you're responsible now. Who does your marketing? You're marketing tortured pigs to consumers and they do not know. I will look into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You do have a welfare guideline, so what you're saying is true. I will look into it. And this is supposedly the highest. There's no alternative for pigs. So you've got to tell your customers they are being tortured. Are you OK with paying for that? If they're not OK, they can buy something else. They're still going to Sainsbury's. They can buy a product that doesn't contain this. They're not being informed, so they're being misled, because it's all green grass and pastures. And we supply a lot of RSPCA. RSPCA pigs go to the gas chamber too. Let me answer. Let me look into it. OK. You can watch Pigner and it talks all about it. But you're there at the moment, but I'm ready to pause here. If Sainsbury's do not become transparent as soon as possible, we will force transparency, because we've investigated one. And right now you have an opportunity to say to the customers, pigs are being literally tortured, caused immense suffering, pain, fear, agony, distress, respiratory distress. And you can say it to them, oh, they're going to find out. Or they're going to find out themselves by footage. Which, so, I'm going to give you my undertaking. I've listened to you. I don't know enough of an issue to comment on it in detail today. There are lots of issues that I do know things about, but this one I don't know enough about. It's having an informed conversation with you today. But I promise to you that I will go away and look into it. And I will. Thank you. You've shown a lot of courage to come out here and to face a group full of protesters. So I want to commend you for that. But it is grossly negligent of Sainsbury's not to know about this. I've heard you. I understand you all about it. Because it's literal pigs being tortured, right? This is a serious topic. It's a serious topic of animal abuse. I just don't have enough knowledge of it myself to have a good conversation with you. I would like to have a good conversation with you about it. I would love for you to, right now, it will take you one second, right? One second of your time, right now. If you do, do you care about pigs that are being supplied to Sainsbury's? Do you care about them? Do you care about what Sainsbury's reputation is? Very much so. Yeah, I would too. Because you're putting your name on it, right? I just want you to see one minute of a... I'm not going to do that right now. Why not? I've heard you. Why not? You don't care? You don't care? Sweet child suppliers. I care very much. No, you don't. Oh, shit. You have an opportunity now to see what pigs are going through in these chambers. This is our cameras that we put in here. You can see them suffering to death. I don't doubt that. I just need to see which of that relates to Sainsbury's and I will do that and I'll come back to you. CO2 is CO2. This is 90% concentration. The same that RSPCA assured. Look at them trying to escape. Look at them trying to escape. CO2 causes immense pain, fear, suffering, asphyxiation, causes carbonic acid to form in their eyes and lungs. So they're literally suffering in torture. So look at it. Look at these four animals. Please just have some humanity. I do, which is why I'm talking to you. But the vital time pick is which is a bit related to Sainsbury's. Cran'swick have gas chambers operating all over the UK. I'm going to talk to them. And what are they going to say? Well, there's no alternative. We're searching for alternatives. For 20 years, they've known this is doing this. They're not going to get alternatives. So we know people are going to buy a bacon and you supply what people want. But you need to tell them so they can make an informed choice. That's it. OK, thank you very much. I expect you to. If not, we're going to blast the footage all over wherever we can and let the public know that Sainsbury's are misleading them in their complete in-torturing pigs and gas chambers. All right, that's what we have to do for the animals. Bless you. Thank you very much for coming out and talking to us. It was good. I don't expect anything to be done, but she showed a lot of courage to come out here. That was brave. Yeah, credit where credit is due. But it's still walking in like that when we're shouting and stuff. That takes some f***ing courage. Well, she's our commender for that. But it's gross negligence. Still, animals have been tortured. I hope she does look into it. But I'll give her the benefit of doubt for now. Because she had the courage to come up and approach us and speak to us. And I think that I'm actually happy with that. And so she could have been a PR stat. It was a bit PR-y. Look, I've heard you. We're going to take it back. I've heard you. We're going to take it back. I'm most of that PR statement. Yeah, she's a PR statement. She seems like exactly the kind of person that could do something. She's brave enough to come out here. She's brave enough to go through big waves. And Sainsbury's do always respond to investigations. But it is like, we care about animal welfare. We are s***. Nothing changes. Bid a lip service. Could be lip service, but give her the benefit of doubt for now. But she didn't want to watch the peak. Wouldn't she be curious to watch the peaks? Yeah. It's kind of hard. You're complicit in their torture, wouldn't you want to see it? Yeah. If you can't even watch it, why are you feeding it to children? Yeah.