 I'm Mary Dots and Park neighborhood president I'm Joe Clark president of near-north neighborhood Jody Kramer president of Memorial neighborhood I'm bill young. I'm the treasurer and acting secretary of Memorial neighborhood Gary Weber just a visitor Penny Weber from SMP Tina wick president of the Gateway Association Mark Podian vice president of historic grant Chris Tamagalsky police chief Isra, Dwight's the South Side beat officer Okay, well welcome everybody next item is to see the Pledge of Allegiance. Please stand and join me Indivisible Now the reason I'd like to pass the mic around is because we taped it last time and a lot of you couldn't be heard There's another microphone on this table here. So feel free to use either one of them and When we started keeping track of the minutes We wanted to have a real robust minutes that really reflected what happened at this meeting rather than just record maybe motions and stuff like most city committees do and It gives us a real record of what we've done over the the time frame And so it's nice to look back on those and if people are interested To find out more about what happens at these meetings and the programs. They've got something some real information there But we've been recording them with just a voice recorder and then it takes My assistant quite a while to go through and transcribe it So now with this system we can take a video and we can put our agenda out on on our Board docs program and when you go to it You'll have the option to watch the video or read the minutes and the minutes are going to be written They're going to be rather short and the video really have all the content now So I appreciate you helping with that and just want to give you a little warning that we're filming this Okay Our next item is to approve the minutes from November 5th. Those were emailed out to you accept the motion Thank you for the motion in support. Do the minutes need any corrections? Seeing none all those in favor, please signify by saying aye Opposed they stand approved Tonight we have a feature presentation on the 2019 neighborhood revitalization year-in-review and Chad Pellichick and Nancy Maureen will be presenting so the floor is yours and please pull that microphone down again Thanks Chad, that's lovely We'll talk about 2019 neighborhood revitalization and Look into 2020 a little bit a lot of this will be familiar to all of you as we talk about it most every time we meet Really when we talk about neighborhood of our realization It's an interdepartmental effort and I think that's clear to all of you as you've seen and had Speakers from multiple departments come to your meetings and really partner with your organizations to get things done the PD DPW planning but also the city attorney the mayor and our administrative department and interdepartmentally we meet on a monthly basis to discuss issues and Items related to our neighborhoods so behind the scenes We're really working on the issues that are brought up in your associations as well as things that we see As a city team rather than just in our own departments in 2019 we chose Five target neighborhoods and those are South Calumet River Bend Riverwatch King Park and South Lake and in these neighborhoods we develop baselines so Our staff from city planning and the beat cops walk all of the chosen neighborhoods in each neighborhood in each of The areas each year since 2017 to develop these baselines and essentially what they're doing is gathering data on Current conditions in our neighborhoods this data that will then be Recollected in five years so we can have an understanding of how far we've come and what the changes are and if we're making an impact on our neighborhoods The data that they're collecting has to do with building condition and also property maintenance so landscaping and abandoned autos and that sort of thing in 2021 will be the first year that we will be Recollecting data on our first group of neighborhoods, so it'll be interesting to see how that compares This is our second round of lighting improvements. If you'll remember back in 2017. We did this as well Our third shift police officers partnered with us for this They surveyed all of our central city neighborhoods and they ranked each street block and Identified the darkest areas in our city where maybe we could need some additional street lighting If you look at these maps and it's kind of hard to see because they're small The darker areas on the map are the darker areas at night Sometimes it's because the street light was burnt out. Sometimes it's because street trees are overgrown But sometimes it's because there was a light lacking and we identified areas for suggested street Lighting improvements and those areas have been sent to Alliance to see if it's feasible for us to put additional street lighting in those areas in the 2019 and 2020 We made it a two-year Commitment because we learned in 2017 that Alliance has a hard time getting those lights up in the same year that we have the suggested improvements because Other things come up for them and that's okay We put in over 30 lights in the last time and there's 53 identified locations in this round So we'll see how many improvements we get to make this year We have end park who joined us as our 10th Association each of each of you know that as associations you have multiple things that you Each work on on an ongoing basis year over year including beach cleanups Black parties your neighborhood plans informational meetings that sort of thing New in 2019 is our large item disposal program and this was really born out of All of you and other residents Requesting large item pickup in the city of Sheboygan, which would have been a huge resource commitment So instead DPW created this large item disposal program as an incentive to our neighborhood associations where neighborhood associations as you know could apply to DPW to Have them stage a dumpster and a crusher truck in their neighborhood for a weekend and the neighborhood Associations then would provide the volunteer labor and organize the events in cooperation with DPW And as you can see I have the tonnage totals. I don't know if you guys have seen that all of those totals from those events So King Park collected 3.49 tons at your event Indiana corridor 3.95 tons LS historic 1.9 for historic grant 4.79 that was our most good job Memorial neighborhood 2.71 Val ref north point one point one seven Gateway neighborhood three point five nine and near north 1.43 for a total of 23 tons of Garbage collected those large items, which is a lot. I think I mean that's a that's a lot to think about They are going to release the dumpster program again for 2020 so I have those applications completed and I will be attending some of your first The first meetings this year to talk to your groups about the dumpster program again and hand out those applications It'll be a similar timeframe as Last year with the events happening in late April to early June So it'll be important to get those applications together and get your dates selected That being said I have most of your January meetings on my calendar and I'll be reaching out to make sure that I can either I or Israel or Jeff will be there to hand out the applications for the dumpster program We had Memorial neighborhood with its first annual historic walk and the Val ref north point neighborhood with their third annual historic walk We had over 50 neighbors attend each of these walks combined. It's again the most attended Neighborhood event so we are really grateful to the historical society and Travis gross for his time and his knowledge in these Events because they are huge for our neighborhoods More association achievements was the grant project by north point Valrath neighborhood they Their grant project was to Install brochure holders Because they get requests for brochures from their previous historic walks from neighbors So they installed this brochure holder on the side of the shack building on the trail at Valrath Park So they could put their previous Walks brochures in so neighbors could pick them up and go on a self-guided historic tour There's Chad Another achievement was the Indiana corridor Demolition of the gas station at the corner of 22nd in Indiana, and this has been on their radar for years Finally the county tax foreclosed on this property. It was a blighted property The neighbors had cleaned it up time and time again only to have the weeds Continue to grow and it was a huge battle for them once the county tax foreclosed on the property It was handed over to the city Demolition was completed in site contamination is being evaluated and waiting waiting to hear back from the state as to what needs to happen with that City development will continue to keep the neighborhood Engaged in conversations around what will happen with that property in the future We had the Memorial neighborhood drug house issue and this really was I Will call it solved for now because things have certainly calmed down But it was a unique situation that we are in and through cooperation of our neighbors and the police department. It's really been Improved in that area. So we are really grateful to the To the police and all of the time and energy they spent with us in our meetings and working with our neighbors to help us document and understand that problem the Indiana Avenue Association had an issue with abandoned autos and they would be moved throughout the neighborhood a lot of them were not functioning or they weren't registered some of them were dangerous they They were just a continuous nuisance throughout the neighborhood and and Izzy worked really hard to help abate that issue And that too has really been calmed down. So that those were two huge achievements through police cooperation with our associations This year Habitat for Humanity had their rock the block event in end park in North Railway neighborhoods It was three days in September that aligned with the day of caring In that there were 14 total projects that were completed and 85 total volunteers Nine of those projects were homeowner projects that included portrait builds garage repairs new siding lighting and fence removal Fiber community projects including some projects for RCS and powers and then Allian Streetway cleanups the city Planning and DPW really and the PD also we attend many planning meetings throughout the year And we offer resources to Habitat for Humanity to support this rack the block event We held a landlord training this year in November We had about 25 landlords in attendance and there was an improvement this year We brought in an attorney to talk about updated Landlord tenant laws, which was really valuable for the landlords that we had in attendance This landlord training happens every year and it's really made possible through a partnership between city development in the Shabuig and PD Our code enforcement statistics as most of you know, we have two code enforcement officers in the city both are part time One focuses on the north side and one focuses on the south side The housing inspection activity a total number of violations this year was 1047 that's only slightly less than last year the number of inspections that they completed was 670 The average violation per inspection is 1.57 so each property that they're going to inspect likely has about one and a half violations to it The number of violations that we've had fixed is 951 so that's a 90 percent Compliance, which is terrific. We're after compliance. We don't want to send people citations The number of citations that we've issued is 318 nuisance complaint statistics a Number of complaints is 683 the violations for sanitation. There was 505 storage 32 an off-street parking 128 The number of violations that have been fixed is 533 that's an 80 percent compliance rate And the number of citations issued here is 101 So looking into 2020 we will Be installing that second wave of lighting improvements that I talked about so those proposed 53 Street lights whatever a line comes back to us with being feasible to install within budget We will be installing those in 2020 We'll establish baselines for four more neighborhoods We'll continue the large item cleanup for associations like I said stay tuned In the first quarter of 2020 is when you'll get the applications for that Hopefully we'll expand that adopt a park program this In 2019 Volrath North Point adopted coal park So if any of you are interested in that adopt a park program we'll reach out to dpw and connect you with that The neighborhood grant opportunity so those of you that have the larger projects that your association Maybe doesn't know how to complete or afford we'll talk about that more in 2020 And we'll continue to partner with rock the block and this year rock the block will be held in franklin and king park neighborhoods So definitely the king park neighborhood association. You'll Be in touch with habitat and and our department to talk about that Any questions If you want to ask a question chat, I'll pass the microphone to you So I just want to I just want to start out by saying Nancy said there was 23 tons of Garbage collected in its heart This thing is working. Yeah talking at the top of it. It's hard to it's hard to know what tons means So there's 2,000 pounds in a ton So that's actually 46,000 pounds of garbage was collected amongst you guys So when you think about it that way, it's a large number and it's a lot of Garbage and it's a little bit more impressive than saying 23 tons because there's 2,000 pounds per ton So if that helps answer anything and if anybody else has any questions, let me know and I'll get to the mic all right Thank you very much. Nancy. We really appreciate that program and it's great to get these year-end reports and See all the accomplishments that were achieved Next we'll go on to the neighborhood round table and Chad wanted to give us a little bit of a Idea of what we're looking for in this presentation So Microphone What we're thinking here is, you know, usually in these meetings we take a few minutes and each Each neighborhood association gives a sort of a rundown of what they've been up to since the last meeting But I think what we're trying to get at is maybe a more useful Conversation about issues that each of you are having within your association And maybe ways that we can support each other what you're doing well what you're struggling with I think that each association has some commonalities in Maybe some struggles like membership board members Getting people to come to events organizing events that sort of thing That's a common sort of issue. So Some some of you deal with those things in different ways and what works for one association might work for another Some of you might have ideas for one another So not only do we want to talk about struggles But things that have gone really well or things that you found to be helpful with your association. So That being said Rather than having sort of a round table where we all just say that we met or we are missing two board members or whatever Whoever wants to kick it off With an idea or a struggle or a question or a success. I think that's Izzy has opinions on this too Um, that's kind of where we want to get with this conversation Well, I am hoping somebody volunteers. Thank you Hi mark again historic grant, uh, let's see Normally we have trouble with participation it ebbs and flows Our most successful way is to put the hangers on people's doors But that didn't really work for our picnic we generally can get 20 to 30 we think I think we just got about 15 for our picnic that happened in September And I'm not sure why or what changed Uh, as opposed to our large item disposal that was again hangers and obviously you can see by the tonnage We did pretty well of cleaning things up Uh, so I I'm I struggle to think of what What we can do to get more people to to show up We've tried, uh Tried pushing things out with email facebook next door And you know, it just ebbs and flows. It's not consistent So we don't know what works and what doesn't so if anybody else has ideas of trying to make sure that We can get continued participation. That'd be great So that's that's the only issue I can really think of bringing to the table Well, one of the things that helped our association a lot is Having rallying points things that we you know, like the gas station, you know, that was a rallying point Everybody was like, hey, we want to do this. We want this and that Brought a lot of people to our meetings, you know on, you know, uh The the gentleman with the cars parked all over our neighborhood, you know, that was a rallying point that kind of, you know You don't want those things some of the things that you have in like the cars We didn't want them in the neighborhood but that you know what we're having people that are being able to rally around You know that that that brought a lot of people to our meetings um And now it's kind of become I guess with our with our neighborhood meetings, it's They're kind of all become friends. So we kind of they really likes getting together. It's kind of that meeting Um, you know, just just to be able to get together and talk and stuff like that um So I don't know if it translates to everybody, but you know, that's one of the things that's that's that's what's what's helped our neighborhood the most um, the one struggle that we have Is when we were able to keep our board and everything like that, um is Maintaining us well the people that have been the secretary have not done a great job of keeping notes We don't have a really good record of what we have done. I will say that it's not been very good but I guess I got to speak into this thing. They're the the outsider looking in is you guys You know as we talked about this internally you guys meet at a bar And in the back room of a bar for inky's pub and people You know come because it becomes a social hour and they like to you know, some of them like to have a drink Okay, and some of them like to have a sort of but they you know It's I think it's that ambiance and that fellowship and that kind of being with other people and maybe it's You know, I hate to say it but maybe it's the bar scene that plays a little bit into it But uh, you know, I think it's you you've had good results of people showing up where they can socialize and And meet with their neighbors and have a drink and just celebrate one time and you know be on their way And and everything is good. So I don't know if you you want to comment about that I would agree. It is you're right. It is more of a relaxed atmosphere. It is nice to just kind of sit back and you know who I said people don't people don't drink like You know, it's usually like one beer or something like that or something because we like we do like to Patronize frankies because they are you know giving us the meeting space and things like that But it's not like people sitting but some people may be afterwards even after we'll stay and have a couple beers afterwards After the meeting is actually over with if they want. Um, but you're right. I think it is somewhat that I think it's the combination of things. It's it's we had the rallying point So now people started coming all that's got people to go and once they started coming to the meetings Then they said we became friends with each other almost We got to know our neighbors a little bit more which which has been a great thing, you know, and you're right It is more for relaxed Um atmosphere so people like just just do enjoy that I I don't know why I was off chad. Um I go to a lot of your meetings. So yeah, absolutely. There's this sort of atmosphere of camaraderie at indiana corridor that I wouldn't I don't want to say it's missing from other neighborhoods, but it it it's there for sure um And so I don't I don't I don't know that you have to be at a bar to find that but adding Adding, you know, some sort of social touch to the meetings really makes a huge difference people Relax, they're open to talk. Sometimes it's hard to talk over everyone else talking But it's if it means that, you know, you get 20 people to come to every single meeting It's totally worth trying to yell over everyone to get your point across. I think it's a fine trade-off Um, so finding maybe some sort of social touch Is is really worked for you guys So you can't lose sight of the fact that when we started this 10 years ago Some of the key things that we're talking about is Just what they've talked about what we're trying to do is build community and so community is socially based We're trying to build social cohesion. That means getting people to identify with common things in their neighborhood So that they have that social relationship It's really what we've lost in our society as people have become more mobile. So not staying in neighborhoods as much If you look back in the past people went to churches in their neighborhood people don't even go to churches in their neighborhood anymore They go across town or they they go someplace else So a lot of that community and those social connections is is really lost We're also trying to build social capital. Many many of our neighborhoods have certain Now I won't think of the the terms but really assets But but some of them really don't and that's why we don't have those social connections So again, if you go back in history and look at things when somebody lost their job In the 1920s or 1930s or 1940s the way they found another job Is the person down the street was working someplace and knew they were out of work and said hey come to work with me And i'll introduce you to the boss and we'll get you a job there So it's all of those social aspects that really bring people together And that's really the key of what we're trying to do We we just struggle with many of the things that that you bring up a Like I said people are more more mobile and they move more often um In in some of our most vulnerable neighborhoods People don't necessarily work work where they live anymore They don't go to church where where they do anymore and then really the speed of life that we live at now People don't have the free time that they normally would and so I think that's why it's important to find that Community place where you can get people to meet So whether it's a bar or it might be a church or a school or wherever it is where people are comfortable coming together and they see it as much as a social experience or You know like dean says where they they come together as strangers because of this common issue that they have But they figure out that they really like each other and like to spend some time together And so they they make that hour or two hours a month or every other month or twice a year Where they're going to put that time aside to come together And so I don't think that we can lose sight of that because it's it's really part of the key to it. I think with um king park One thing we do really good is we have a really good facebook page And we do notice that a lot of people are looking at the page We're just not getting the people at the meetings And the only time people do show up for meetings is when they want to complain So I think people are looking at sometimes association meetings As a place to complain and if they don't have something to complain about then they don't want to come So we're trying to get that Mentality out of them that these meetings aren't just for people's gripes and complaints. It's they're informational And we want people to come so we are thinking about doing the To bars and restaurants like you guys that could uh rick and I did sit on one of your meetings And we noticed it's a more relaxed atmosphere. I think a lot of people when they come through the pavilion They see it as you know stone walls and and they look at us like Uh, this isn't fun. So we're going to try doing that once in a while to Go into some of the bars in our area to have our meetings But the biggest thing for us is If people don't have a complaint then they don't show up and when they do have a complaint And if they don't get their answers, they want right away Then they don't want to come again because they're like, well, you're not helping us They think that we're just going to be able to fix something that day And if we don't then they think well, you don't care about us Uh, so why bother coming? So that's about our biggest concerns For memorial. Oh, sorry Um, our attraction now is the hospital Um, and our attendance has been pretty decent. I feel Um, another issue has been the drug house, which is you know on a up and up positive side But our issue is interest for board members, you know people that would like to be on the membership I think our attendance has improved quite a bit Hopefully it'll stay that way But um, how do you get people to be interest into the board members? Bill does a wonderful job in putting notes on next door as well as emails that are sent out And I have talked to a couple people. Oh, yeah, I read the notes. So I don't really need to come to the meetings That's what we find So Um, I thought it was interesting when you talked about um, a rallying point because like we've noticed because we've had a couple of Rallying points which have been kind of problems and not good rallying points We had a drug house in our neighborhood and we've got the ongoing issue of what's going to happen to Aurora memorial hospital after they move out to the Kohler area about what we're going to do with that building Um, but we all have Coming up. I think all neighborhoods are going to be involved in this a really good rallying positive rallying point And that the dpw is going to be coming to our meetings to talk about the changes to the garbage collection that are going to happen this year So part of what one of some of the things that we were thinking to get more people to come in Is if we really make that meeting as an event type of thing You know come come to our meeting we're going to be talking about the garbage collection and how it's going to change this year and The the containers that are going to be coming in and all of the ways that you're going to be involved I mean that's something that directly affects Every resident in your neighborhood and I would think that would be something that they would be very interested to hear it So just as a suggestion to get as a rallying point That might be something that we could all use as neighborhoods To use as a rallying point to try to get more people to come to our meetings because we found that because we've had these rallying points There's always When there's the big meeting we get a lot of turnout and a lot of people come 90 percent of them fall off and don't come again or don't continue coming to the meetings But there's always a few more That we managed to hook in to keep coming to our meetings on a regular basis So rallying points are a big thing and it's a good point and yes and guest speakers. We've had some terrific guest speakers Um over the past year and that that has brought people in too, but the rallying points Kind of hotbushing topic issues really do get people to come in Yeah, these meetings We've been trying to put different programs on that you can ask to have at your meetings and kind of emulate what's happening here But if you have some good ideas for programs that you thought of on your own and we're we're good for you That's something that maybe you can share with the others because having some title topics sometimes will bring people in just because of it like Today we had a meeting at king park where they talked about the the project to see what we need to do to shore up our lake shore and And fight all the waves that are coming in and they had a full house at king park today for that meeting and it was really neat to see Sort of piggybacking off of what the mayor said about rallying points And and what bill said about them being mostly negative If that's true a lot of times they're born out of you know a problem that everyone finds in common But the I will say the historic walks bring a lot of people out in that sort of an asset that our neighborhoods have found in common So that people are really interested in and i'm not saying you have to do a historic walk But sometimes it's looking Internally at assets that people want to celebrate within your neighborhood and and that has seemed to bring people out too We also have some neighborhoods that are testing a quarterly model And I know that's new so we'll see how it works To then trying to get a program Each month or and trying to get people out every month. Maybe you know, it's less of a commitment For people to come out quarterly They're more likely to come out. You can have a more of an event type atmosphere I think the event atmosphere coupled with a social aspect might be A really good formula and I have my fingers crossed that that's successful for those of you that are trying that out I guess time will tell And hopefully that's something that in the future we can talk about at these meetings whether it's been successful for you The other thing that I wanted to bring up is I think it was near north one of you guys do yard signs And you put out yard signs for events. Is that in your north? Did you have better results with it or Okay Okay, anyways, um The big thing with with us is I'll be honest with you Whenever we bring up, let's go hang door door door things. I get this No, I'm not gonna you know, nobody wants to do that I mean because it's a it's a lot of commitment. It's a lot of work and you know, that's So so that's the tough thing. So that's what we came up with the yard signs We did the you know the put them out Um I said for our hot dog events We've had mixed results. I guess I could say though our last hot dog event was on a very No, the day wasn't exactly the greatest. So It's it's always hard to hard to gauge when you have poor weather. I mean, it's not something you can always plan on. So Uh, we've had some of the very same Things that everybody else is talking about um Participation and just getting people Board members and I think people do Like to come to these to have a problem solved and I feel like The associations should be an extension kind of To help the city and the police to kind of get communities together and kind of be More communities like we're all I feel like we're all strangers like You can't even wave to your neighbor and they don't even look at you anymore Um, and we have tried to make it a little bit more of a social Thing we have ours at paradigm. We only have them once a quarter Because I felt like once a month gets people get to be like hey We were just at a meeting and If you're not solving anything or doing anything people do like what am I going to the meeting for? It's not productive So, um, we are trying to make it a little more social. I feel like also it takes time Um, you know, nothing happens in a day or even maybe six months It might take a year or whatever to really get I feel to get the gateway association kind of built back up and And going and we are a very business oriented association so I One of my ideas was to go around and personally invite some of the businesses To our meetings with a little card or something Giving the dates maybe for this coming year So that they're privy to it ahead of time And they might feel a little bit more of a connection and I don't want to say obligation but like if we've met and had a little chat they might feel like you know like well She seemed like it could be interesting. Maybe maybe I'll go and check it out. So Those are my ideas You know me and Nancy and Penny and Chad kind of talk about all these and you guys some of you guys really hit Kind of the nail on the head here, especially the chief talking about uh, you know social aspect of it Keep in mind too like we me and jeff get frustrated as well Because we we really want to see a lot of you guys succeed and you guys really go around and you guys change up the Damoc of these neighborhoods a lot Um king park. I mean shows one when I first got here five years ago. There was You know when I got here, I went to Kentucky Avenue going. Oh man, I moved here. What did I get myself into now? I take pride in king park. It's it's an amazing area I don't think the last time I've been to Kentucky avenue And that has hand-to-hand with neighborhood associations working with the city and rick gore and brine and stuff. So um We really want to propel you guys to be successful and Some of those are don't be afraid to reach out for resources You know star reaches out to andrea king park on social media advice You know, I sent rick to indiana court or because rick was getting frustrated with the amount of people showing up And just to see the difference of their meeting versus his meeting to get different ideas, you know Invite yourself to their meeting, you know, or anybody else's meeting to see what the difference is He might hear that in a court as 15 But as dean said he can't get anybody to do door hangers, you know They'll have their ups and downs and frustrations and and positives and negatives But go around and make those resources out Another thing, you know, those walks are really important because they really add value to your neighborhood So when you go around and you talk about the history people value that neighborhood a lot So I think really that's why those walks and stuff are Turned out so well because you get the negative that draws and tracks people But you also offset it with the value and people perceive their neighborhood as being different and more valuable with the information they're given And not you have to do walks for every neighborhood But find something that's of value in the neighborhood and And push that home too because people will visually look at your neighborhood as being different So I think that's why those walks are so so important and some big turnouts because they value that So what is he was saying made me think of something that we talk about in our interdepartmental meetings sometimes And that really has to go with the connection to place and the pride in place But also the transformation that we've seen in our neighborhoods and that each of you really plays a huge role in with your associations We talk about how to tell that story To the public at large and to other city departments and just really celebrate What our neighborhoods have evolved to become and what problems we've solved and how we are building community because sometimes it feels like On the day to day we aren't making a difference. But when we look back At what we've done It is powerful. So how we tell that story We we talk a lot about that at the interdepartmental meetings and one of the ideas that was put forward was maybe producing a couple a little two-minute segments on A video that could be shared via social media or other ways On the success stories of neighborhood revitalization and have it partnering with you all on telling the story of your own neighborhood and what The what you value and what you are proud of and how you've seen that Change happen within your association um I I met with south high and there's potential for maybe some students to produce those videos and I will be in touch more but it made me think about I guess what you were saying about maybe involving each of you in a production of of of those as an as a way that you all can share that then with your networks and the city can share that and we can have that as a record of What's going on but also as a way to maybe Tell the our neighbors. What's going on? What about now I know like one of the things that I think I I lament or whatever is is that like Like the used to be years ago. You'd read something like that. It'd be in the paper It would be an article in the paper. There'd be a community article. This is what's going on. This is what's we don't really have that anymore Could we partnership with possibly like the beacon or the sun or something like that and possibly work with something with them on something? Maybe like, you know, hey, you know, I know there has been some stuff with that But could we get maybe a little bit more? Because I think I think the more people find out I really think a lot of our stuff does not get out there It really doesn't I think yes As a whole as a group together I think this is why these meetings are important is because each of you could be out doing your own publicity But if we come together, we can really have maybe a more powerful impact the sun and the beacon We can definitely look into it. There might be a cost associated But we can be creative. We can see what we can come up with I think we can also carve out So the city struggles with that same exact thing as a whole being our own news source because there's really a void of A reliable local news source here. So how do we do that? How do we tell people what's going on? How do we tell people, you know, and then as a result we hear False information out there or people don't feel like they're in the loop and then that connection to place is lost in translation so Yeah, you might remember in the beacon they took I think our june, uh, or maybe April minutes and they they put the whole thing into an article which was really great And it really got a lot of information out about our neighborhoods. So that kind of happened by accident just because we had a robust You know minutes from our meeting We've been putting something in about the neighborhood associations and shabuagan neighborhood pride in our Our online newsletter the shabuagan insider But it would be nice to have something like those videos or something to grab people's attention And and let them watch right now. It just goes to the calendar So you can see where the next meeting is in your neighborhood and you have access to the website So it'd be neat to have something to focus a little bit on So yeah, it's Chad suggested facebook lives. We could absolutely coordinate that we have the equipment for that for sure We can talk to sarah about right now. She asks for sarah's Mike's assistant and She is the communicator of the newsletter. Yeah, she is our communications person in the city. So We could have her carve out More of a corner to highlight neighborhoods right now. She asks penny and I for updated information When really we just put okay So memorial had the historic walk and 24 people attended or whatever the event was if we can find a way to make that more I don't know celebratory or Talk about the neighborhoods as a whole or getting people involved rather than specific events one off I think we can do some brainstorming on that. So we have Various ways. I think we can keep talking about that But we can try some new ways of getting the word out about neighborhoods and and what goes on I don't think people know what happens at those meetings We at memorial, we don't have a facebook page And I hadn't really even thought about it a lot until I heard some of you guys talking about it How many of you have a facebook page? Three of you do. So do you are you also involved in next door as well? What what do you find is more responsive? To you Do you see facebook as getting more people coming on and commenting or do you see next door? 50 50 Is is is it easy to get a facebook page started and and start building it up? I'm not actually sure how Who started the faith? I'd have to ask my my wife was actually All he did christen. Okay. I thought I thought it was the neighborhood officer That's right. So it was chris staffel. Well, he was our neighborhood officer. He started it So my wife's the one that's been running it now Um, she's been taking you know, she puts like our meetings and things like that on there Doesn't we don't put up? We don't put a lot on there. I'll be honest with you We just put on you know a few little highlights. So this is what's going on We take pictures that are events and you know, put those on and things like that. So we try to get that But yeah, I would say, you know next door probably gets a little bit more, but The door the door hangers, you know, realistically, I I don't know how many roads I've seen door hangs I've been walking and do door hangs I I don't know what it brings in but I haven't seen anything bring in it's great information for people Um, I don't know if they use it or not But I never see them usually come up to a meeting maybe one I've seen my door hanger But other than that it's really providing information knowing it's out there Your social media, um thing is it's free to open one up on facebook You just got to keep in mind if you do social media You have to have to engage somehow meaning don't let it be stale for a month and not post anything Because people just knock it right off and not pay attention to it. What do you king park success successful Because they share things they post things you don't have to post every day But somehow you have to keep that going that content going and a lot of their content isn't their own It's shared from city's facebook page other neighborhood facebook pages So keep that in mind if you open it up, but um and also keep in mind For the city or jeff or i a next door some people don't realize this either we can post a next door We can't read messages on next door though So if there's a thing going on keep that in mind if there's a feud in a neighborhood or something We we don't know Those messages too. So something to keep in mind because some people don't know that the we can't read the messages We can only post them out Yeah, i'm a neighbor in my old neighborhood my new neighborhood and city hall So i have three accounts with the the program joe I just wanted to share a cautionary tale with the social media We set up several accounts and google drives When we first started and the board member who set those up Then dropped off the board and our access to all of that just disappeared And it took a long time to track down That information and i think now nancy's set it up so that all of the accounts are officially Held through the city so that whatever the turnover of the board is we can always go back to the city to get that access again That's great Yeah, you mentioned something about a next door in the postcards If you have email addresses of people you know in the city They'll send out as many invites to People with email addresses. There's no limit on them like there are with the postcards And I think every month you get a new batch that that you can issue with the postcards This isn't even worth repeating maybe but we joked at our last meeting that it would be really nice to have a fifth Board member position on there called chief communications officer That would be a person whose job it would be specifically to handle the communications issues and things like that but We can't fulfill the four board member positions that we have so I guess that's just a dream to come Again, my name is mary and i'm from the unpark neighborhood and We were really fortunate to have rock the block in 2019 people came out of the woodwork People we didn't even know we're in our neighborhood. So we gained a few members from that However, we have also found that through rock block We really feel that our neighborhood borderline is not correct We have end park which is 13th street The people that are really affected by end park are the people on the west side of 13th street and they are not part of our neighborhood And we have people contacting us saying well, can we come to the meetings? And I say yes Because you are dealing with the same issues that bell avenue los angeles avenue And 12th street are dealing with Our rallying point, I guess is definitely end park It's gotten much better After school, it's a problem. I do believe that I just came upon a drug deal tonight on my way home One girl running between several cars During the summer every year, there's a new group of adolescents that feel They have a right to Rule the park and they destroy things and They will just sit there with things and trying to hit the chimney on the shelter and they're very disruptive We've talked that is our main focus is end park again. It's gotten a lot better. We understand that People that live around the park have to almost police it and call if there's trouble Um I think a lot of the Adolescents that are hanging out at that park Might live just to the west of our borderline So those parents I'm very verbal on Next door where I'll say this child did this and this child did this and parents. Please talk to your kids about Our park it belongs to all of us I don't think all those messages are reaching the people across the street So We always talk about the border as being perhaps we need to change it We have not in my recollection. We have not had one person from a street We have the west side of a street. We really don't get anybody from 9th street It's more people that are concerned about the park. Well, first of all, thanks for inviting those people I think that's the thing you want to continue make them feel part of the group and You know, if you come up with a plan later on we can look at massaging those those boundaries for you Okay, anybody else and I just want to say that I really like the idea. I wish we had a bar in our neighborhood because That would really help We'll see what we can do We'll just open one but right now we we've gone we started out at north high that north or urban. I don't even remember Was it urban? north Okay north and then we went to the washington Apartments the manager let us use their room There were issues where people felt that they were locked out because you had to have a Key to get in So now we move to Bethel the synagogue on the corner of 10th and north avenue and it's really An eye-opener because those people are in our neighborhood and we've gotten to know them and We have welcomed them into our neighborhood and they have welcomed us into their facility That's fantastic I think this was a really good discussion. I hope you like you know the way this evolved and you got some some good ideas out of it I guess I'd like to move chad But before we leave this discussion You know we're in I would think we're intending to do this every time but we ask you we've asked numerous times and We're still looking for you know, what do you guys want to hear for presentations? What do you want to hear for? You know things where do you want to go? What's kind of like on your dream list? I'd like to see the behind the scenes tour We went to the sheriff's department and saw the emergency operation center So, you know keep in mind if ideas come through even not here But just drop Nancy right email on or the mayor on you know places or people or What you know what you want to hear from presentations that you think would be valuable to be able to take back to your group or invite that person back to your group to speak to a larger group as a Kind of sharing the positives. So, you know, let us know we're always struggling every time the mayor knocks on our door to say There's an agenda that's going on. What is the program going to be? It's like, uh, So if you have any ideas for sure, uh, send them our way Thank you, chad Now we'll go on to the report from shabuaga neighborhood pride penny All right, we continue to work with some neighborhoods that Haven't taken that step to the associations yet We've got franklin park keeney park eerie hill And all of those have a small core group of people that continue to come But we haven't been able to grow it In keeney park, we thought we would actually go out into the neighborhood in twos knock on doors Introduce ourselves tell them about next door our neighborhood meetings. We had great conversations one on one with these people Unfortunately when meeting time came they didn't come so It's it's frustrating. You don't quite know what it is that you need to do to get the people to come But yet the small group that does come participates And is genuinely interested in what's happening in their neighborhood So it's it's not lost time being there And I know in the beginning we said 12 months and we would be in association We've reevaluated and realized We're not going to quit on those groups that we need to continue with them We're building them up So if you start out and you tell them, all right, we're going to have three meetings and in the fourth meeting I want you to step up and you tell me what you're going to do to make your neighborhood better It's not going to happen and you're going to lose the people Instead, I guess baby steps Keep talking to them and as they grow in confidence and realize that there are some things they can do It's going to happen. You just have to be patient We did have one new neighborhood cleveland park We had a neighbor reach out and say boy, I'd really like to have a meeting We had one on the 16th of december It was just before christmas. I didn't know what to expect, but we had eight people come And great conversation. We asked them. Do you want to continue and they said absolutely yes So they asked questions about next door and it was just great So we're going to have another meeting in january keep that one going On the other side, we had south calumet Somebody had reached out to us and said I'd really like something to happen in our neighborhood So we had a meeting and the first time we had about 12 people and they were very vocal And they said absolutely we want to have another meeting And then the next couple of meetings they started dropping We had a neighborhood cleanup And the only one that showed up were the police officers and a member of smp Not a single neighbor showed up So we sent out an email and we said Any interest here if there is interest, please let me know or otherwise We will wait to hear from you and not a single reply was had So for the time being we're going to drop south calumet. They know where we are If they're interested again Appreciate you continuing to develop these I guess, you know, if you look at the work that's been done by shaboyga neighborhood pride You're all the children they've raised and they're still trying to have a few more and I think that's great I have a microphone, but I just want to say penny is you know Congratulations on the work that your group does and it's you know, it as the mayor said it's it's beneficial What I would say is if there is some of those groups that You know are kind of flaundering, you know invite them to these these groups and let you know And if they came, you know, if there was some new people in the audience that wanted to learn from this and they were from You know potentially organizing Neighborhood and they hear kind of the benefits of what? Granted we all have frustrations But they hear some of the positive stuff and some of what's going on that might push them over the edge If they're just lingering there So I think you know I this is a public meeting and anybody can come you just don't have to be An association to be here and if there's a topic on the agenda that makes sense You know send it out to them and encourage them to come to this public meeting I agree at first focus is the leadership of the groups and we want you to be successful And that's why we're we're meeting but We we've got plenty of seats left for more people if you want to invite people to be here and And take it in as well and that might be training a few future leaders for your group and they might Take that step to to take a little bit more of a leadership role So yes, team And I guess I would also echo that as far as people like when King park came to our our neighborhood if anyone wants to come to indiana corner um, it just um our our meetings are usually the um Second wednesday But check check check it with me otherwise give me a caller email me My email is with the with the city for the as all the person Also, if you'd like me to be at one of your meetings invite me If if it works out that that month, maybe not the very month, but somewhere along the line I'd be happy to go to your meeting also Thank you very much So the last item on the agenda is our next meeting which uh, we're planning for march 3rd So please uh, save that date With that I'd entertain a motion one more Immediate need of a speaker is there something that somebody would want or an idea? I don't I don't but I'm opening it up to you guys to I No, go ahead and see pennies got Yes, we tried for eerie hill. There is an addiction Residential facility going up in north 17th street and they were interested because that's their neighborhood So I invited I called the lady And invited her to attend she said she would to speak at the december meeting and she didn't show up But I think that might be a good topic. That's something different for the city The memorial neighborhood had a me uh speaker on um The air pollution And there's been some changes with that. So as an attainment community Um, that was an interesting speaker. I thought and I hadn't heard that group speak before Um on ozone and in all of that. So that might be an interesting. Who was that group? Do you? I have it. I have her sheets Somewhere Yeah, I'm pretty sick of the census, but Maybe in april We'll get the name of that that group, but that was an interesting presentation. I have her name right here It's uh, rebecca dos quinoa or something like that with a 4014 area code She lives in town. No, I know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I have her information here Okay, uh, all those in favor of adjournment signify by saying aye Opposed we stand adjourned. Thank you so much for your time tonight and hope you all have a great winter