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Check out CDKoffer.com. Check out CDKoffer.com. Alright, so thanks for joining me for Live from the Shop. We do this what's a month for basically we talk about what's been going on, like the builds we've done, the new stock that we have, and of course Intel 14th Gen came out Wednesday, I think. We ordered it actually, we're not supposed to say, but we ordered it like the day in advance. Then we got it soon after that. So, one of our customers was probably one of the first, if not the first, to get a 4900K. As far as I know of here dito sa atin. Sub Genome, Sub Chris Alvarez, what spec would you recommend for a racing simulator setup? We do actually have, I would be doing a delivery tomorrow that is pretty much a racing simulator setup. What they have is a 7800 XT, our 7500 X3D for GPU and CPU respectively. A very nice LG monitor, I think 49 inches na curved. We can send you like if you want to email us. Although to be honest Chris Alvarez, I can't remember if your name is attached to this project. But if you are attached to this project, you'll be seeing the computers very soon, I will be delivering them tomorrow morning. France, sa France, as long as we're working i5-6500, may mga MOBOs po ba ngayon na pwede dyan for gaming? We don't have any, the MOBOs we have for Intel are for 12, 13 and 14. I don't think we even have any more left for Intel 11th Gen, let alone for 6th Gen Intel. So sorry, we struck out, we don't have that for you. The thing is with Intel, they really change motherboards a lot. It's very rare, this particular generation 12, 13, 14, they all use the LGA 1700, so it's the same socket, you can still use the same motherboard. But it's very rare that Intel does that. Yung average, datinga actually, I think parang one Gen different, di naman to be fair, the 11.5X lasted a long time naman. But it's not like, they're not like AMD na, yung AM4 platform was around for a long time, was a great platform. Intel likes to change up its sockets and that causes a bit of headaches for customers who are thinking of upgrading rather than having to buy a new computer outright. Sa pleya magnaye. We do have wenki from YouTube, we do have 27 inches, 29 inches, I can't think of any off the top of my head, like we don't have it on stock, we might be able to custom order but I can't point think of any that, off the top of my head that would fit the bill na 29 inches. Yes, we are still in Makati on Chinuroses, Chris Alvarez. So, Frederick Caballero, thanks for dropping by. You missed me. I came in like around four, I think. Christian Lasak, 4070, we have Asus. Let me bring it out. Isa na lang. We had two of these guys, apparently somebody bought the other one but here is our 4070 Asus, tough dual, 4070. Tough ba do? Not tough, sorry. Tough is actually an imprint of Asus, so it's still made by Asus but they try to segment their products a little bit so they have tough, they have streaks, they have ROG, they have ROG streaks. You know, we've done a lot of business with Asus but I'm still unclear. I mean, ROG obviously is their very premium line but I'm still not clear where tough goes. Like, there's an ordinary Asus which isn't that cheap, right? I mean, even the ordinary Asus is kind of quality na and it's not the cheapest that you can get on the market. Then you have the tough and then maybe the streaks and the ROG streaks and the ROG but that is the 4070 we have now. Kofi, that's Hardware Sugar plan on branching out. We certainly hope to but to be honest, we still have growing pains trying to figure out how to make money with one branch let alone if you have multiple branches. Although that said, retail is really volume. I mean, the way to make money in retail is you have to sell a lot. The problem is like our sales model, we focus on more high-end components, more exotic builds. So just by the nature of the parts, there are less people looking for that compared to entry level, 20,000 pesos, computers for example. So we're still kind of trying to figure out the best way to make money and I've said this many times on the streams Hardware Sugar is not making money yet but hopefully, we'll get there soon because it's nice. You have quite expensive builds coming in but at the same time to buy the parts necessary for those builds also takes up a lot of capital. So constantly having to borrow money from various people. Fortunately, I do have access to capital but it is a little struggle but yes, hopefully once we get a little money saved up we do want to expand both in the metro and outside the metro. All right, so we are going to do so what I do, what I like to do with live from the shop I'm going to take the like a mobile camera we're going to make this the main one. Oh, the problem every time I do this I always mess up. Then can you hear me? Okay. Okay. If the audio cut out just please say so in the comments but para nagtransmit pa naman siya I think. So we have this computer here. I don't even know what case this is. I like it. It's really old school. You know it's old school just by the look and also by the panel the side panel which isn't full anayat and I think this might be acrylic actually medyog ganun yung cases before. Usually the side panel now is fully visible like fully transparent but here it's just like a it's a portion of it I think this is still acrylic. Nice front though. Can't look like of a night or something. So this is for diagnostics this nr 200p is also for diagnostics everything here is for diagnostics we have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight computers all in all for diagnostics this is actually ours but we're using it to test some components this AP-201 is ours thank you ASOS sent it to us for review and allowed us to keep it and it has been super useful because it has great air intake so a lot of air intake here then it's a vented side panel so it's imperforated steel rather than yung transparent na glass so great airflow quite roomy for an MATX case so it's very easy to install things out and things like that this also actually came from the brand deep cool sent it to us for review and then allowed us to keep it LS 720 I think so we're using this to test this is really ours this guy I have no idea what this case is dark flash maybe dark flash because of the dark flash fans we are expecting actually to get a case from dark flash for review so that is coming up oh and it's a ah it's a vertically mounted GPU na gigabyte na trifan not bad except you know to be honest my concern with the vertical mounted in these kind of cases I mean where is it going to get the air there's no there's no there's no easy access to cool air I mean at least if it were a vented side panel here and these fans are either blowing in or sucking depending on the type of GPU it still has access to some kind of fresh air pero itong I mean this looks nice kinda high 260 kinda leanly design aesthetic pero can get a little toasty id cooling AIO MSI edge MSI MOBO don't know what this GPU I mean it's a gigabyte GPU but I don't know what it is let me make sure okay nobody has complained yet na wala ng audio so I assume okay pa to this build is actually from us it's from my long time customer the Zotac looks very familiar this is the GPU I have I love the it's off na but I love the AIO on this I don't know if you can see it sir medyo masikip with the other case so it's a cooler master AIO the lighting is around the CPU block instead of being focused on top of it I really like this look and then it's an NZXT H5 but this is also in for diagnostics this NR200P which I am using as a table sorry to the I mean I'm not hurting it or anything but seems a little disrespectful to the NR200P but this is also for diagnostic I got a fractal used to carry stuff like this before I mean like this particular case I can't quite define C mini C maybe but that's also for diagnostic and this guy is also for diagnostic and we are running a mem test right now are the temps okay on the Pulsaphire 7800XT? to be honest I wouldn't know because we have not di ko pa na subukan we had one 7800XT which we sold but it was for ship out so we sent it out to the province we weren't able to test it in store we didn't do a build on it and we didn't run our usual benchmarks on it so to be honest I don't know I could not answer that question let me just get a nice view of the well I don't know how much how much better that view is maybe kung ganito na lang oh that's not great either maybe like this maybe like this riser cables so to since we're here to explain what these guys do basically if you want your piece your GPU is usually mounted like this but if you want it mounted like this you're gonna need to install you're gonna need a riser cable like this the GPU slots in like this and in the other part sorry well actually it's like it would be here so this is your PCIe slot you slot in your GPU here it's standing vertically like this and then this slots into the PCIe slot on the MOBO so these are riser cables brought the prominence actually not by gaming I mean usong-usong ngayong aesthetic na oh say bye-bye to the guys bye guys thank you for your work those are actually the guys who keep hardware sugar running I am just the I am just the the talking head that doesn't mean that doesn't the jibber jabbers but doesn't really provide value but those guys are the ones who give to provide value to hardware sugar and they actually do the work they do the services so we think about vertical mounted GPUs mostly for aesthetics for gamers but they really came to prominence for miners back in the day when you were using GPUs for crypto mining you wanted a lot of GPUs on one motherboard and so you needed riser cables because you couldn't physically fit the even though you had a lot of PCIe slots you couldn't fit the GPUs on the motherboard like physically fit them in kasi makapaling ma-GPUs but if with riser cables you could have them originating on the board and then you know rising they're still connected to the motherboard and then you can have like a whole line of GPUs on just using one motherboard so sumikat talaga sila from crypto mining 4070 trifan recommended the PSU I usually like colorful for GPUs I think they do have a trifan version MSI is really pretty good if a little pricey sometimes ASOS is also good I'm not sure if they have a trifan for 4070 but I'm pretty sure the one we have guys just do one so just two fan but in general I like the ASOS the MSI colorful for GPUs my personal GPU is a Zotac which has been running pretty well to be honest Kofi, new dcool CH560 might be good for vertical mounted GPUs so the half glass half mesh I haven't that's a good point I haven't actually checked out that um that case I think the last deep cool na I remember was the CH510 but yes so I'm not sure if we got a shot of the mem test over there we actually have had a bunch of builds but um they're all loaded up now I mean I'll deliver some tomorrow and some of them already got picked up over the week we've had a bunch of expensive builds um trying to see like we've had custom orders we had a custom order for a 4090 where is the 4090 well here's a 40 ah this is also a custom order 4070ti so what do I mean by a custom order if we don't have the item in stock oh actually we're running two different mem tests I mentioned that we're doing a lot of diagnostic in the shop so we're doing the mem test we're testing the RAM of this computer and this is our one of our test benches the RAM on it sorry actually this is yeah one of our computers this is also one of our computers um one of our test benches apparently we're testing the clevata to it and the color no why are we running mem tests on the color is this the colorful oh yeah CVN this is colorful RAM um so there's a mem test mem test takes a long time actually so it's very common in the shop na iniwan namin overnight either to do stress tests or the mem tests um although I have a standing rule in the shop that I want all staff computers turned off before they leave so if I come in after they've left and I find the computer on I will turn it off which is why the staff leave me notes that please don't turn this off because you know we're actually doing work on this thing and we left it running although itong isa parang one stick of RAM lang I don't know if you can hear it but there's a rattle here in this computer so there's a rattle here this computer also when it was on kanina may rattle parang may may something with the fans and it runs hot this one parang hindi maganda yung cooling although it's fractal design so it's a good case um it looks like a noctua inside can't quite make it out kasi it tinted yung side panel um this one actually is about I mean you know it's past three of the four tests so probably okay but we'll see how that goes yeah so we don't I mean there are some builds we have two builds waiting for parts um but apparently we have a lot of diagnostics a lot of builds for diagnostics in the shop insan how much is a 4060 we have ours at around 19,000 if you want more information about prices we do have a video that dropped just last Friday our price watch video for this month that's where we track the prices of CPUs and GPUs throughout throughout the Philippines through the major PC retailers so not we don't base it on the prices that we see from our dealers here at hardware sugar we look at the prices of the four largest PC retailers in the country at every average that data to get a general sense of makano ba tong GPU na to with the 4060 you need to be careful kasi there are still some stores na mas mahal yung 3060 nila and there's no reason I mentioned this on pwede magtanong yesterday there's no reason why a 3060 should be more expensive the 4060 is newer the 4060 is faster and the 4060 is cheaper in SRP so there's no reason why the 3060 should be more expensive than the 4060 we have ours ours is colorful 4060 we have ours at around 19,000 sub kaiser a lot of the a good majority of the bills that we get for diagnostics I wish that they would also consider our cleaning and cable management service kasi medyo makapal nga yung sometimes makapal yung I wouldn't even call it dust when dust conglomerates and kukumpul sa vent and stuff it becomes like this very solid thing so I do sometimes wish na pang cleaning and cable management dinto yes, I'm sorry I don't have exciting bills I'm about to deliver them so they're already in the car deliver them to more morning and we have two builds na pang we are still waiting for parts I know we got a we had a custom order 4090 but I don't know where it is I'm not sure the customer picked it up na but just to have a run down of what we can do in the shop other than full builds yung nga we're the only PC shop I know that will do diagnostics even for non-customers ito rig nato and di galing sa amin, the parts are not from us but we will help you figure out what's wrong plus if we determine that the problem is one part and you buy the replacement part from us wala nang diagnostic fee so you're just basically paying for hardware which you'll need anyway to get the computer up and running 100% and we advertise this a lot like on our Facebook we mention it a lot the other mainstream stores I've never heard them talk about that kind of service but for us it's a way for people to know us because we are a small shop also it's because we don't want e-waste to pile up okay para min computer you just need to replace the RAM okay para min computer you just need to replace the PSU para hindi sayang often times when a computer goes wrong either it's software so you wipe windows fresh install or there's just one part of the computer that's acting up the rest is still good so it's also in that kind of spirit na ayon namin na may sayang ayon namin na may you're still getting value for money okay we can replace it instead of having to get something new so in a way we are very pro right to repair at hardware sugar I'm just going to do speaking of things we do that can lessen e-waste I just also want to point out na that's a good point Kaiser pero like I like I've struggled to I don't parang it's hard for me to justify it based on that na it's more expensive because assuming you get the 12GB 3060 um but the benchmarks have like 3060 12GB versus 4060 8GB like the 4060 pumps out more frames so it's hard why the card should be more expensive like we talk about the 3060 and the 4060 although I do act knowledge that there are differences like just on the very surface level the size of the VRAM and the number of PCIe lanes um but in like in terms of like what the customer is actually getting in terms of performance parang I don't quite understand how the shops can have the 3060 12GB as more expensive continuation na pwede magtanong yung PC ko nag-blue screen bigla error 1962 no OS found then off ko po lang yung AVR then on again I don't know I don't know what error 1962 is if you want if you think it's your AVR you could try plugging your computer directly into the wall outlet which I do I do not use an AVR pop alright we seem to have lost some audio but we're still live let me check the droid cam doesn't seem to be working anymore oh yeah yeah because I there let's see if we can get it back I think I might have accidentally tabbed out of droid cam ah well boring conversation anyway points if you get the reference um so we're just going to use the main cam uh sorry this is the question of one ah yes if you suspect the AVR is a problem although it's usually not the problem but if you suspect that it is you can plug it directly into the wall your PC directly into the wall outlet and you can see from there if it's working again or if you know that error doesn't crop up anymore um say lemme google search 1962 according to the internet 1962 is associated with a faulty hard drive or SATA cable connection um which kind of ties into the message that no OS found so actually you might want to test your cables you might want to replace your cables your data cables rather than yung AVR you are not using an NVMe SSD an m.2 so it's not plugged in straight your computer into your motherboard so you were using SATA cables um we don't have any plans to update Shopee kasi yung experience namin sa Lazada and Shopee we've been scammed too many times like the customer will order a CPU and then it is COD they will take the CPU then they will return the CPU pero pag da ting sa amin baton na lang yung laman the customer will claim that the item that we sent was wrong so that's why they sent it back to the CPU Shopee doesn't care and the shop got screwed so I really had it up to here explaining to both Lazada and Shopee that you can take a look at the record why would we scam this guy when we send it out it was original but the platforms really don't care and we're a small shop we can't afford to send free CPUs to scammers so na puno na ako na it's a limited options on Lazada and Shopee for the SSDs on the site yes we are working on that it's a real pain in the ass to be honest but we are working on it 6700XT I would not know because we cannot get it anymore our suppliers are out and it's so hard actually to find prices of the 6700XT even from other shops for those of you who are unfamiliar every month we do a video where we track the prices of CPUs and GPUs in the Philippines based on the prices of the 4 largest retailers in the country so before we used to track the 6700XT but it's so hard to find now in the wild na pinilitanko na with the 7800XT or 7700XT sorry 7600XT sa Pesto I actually did answer Pesto I'll jump to you I did answer this yesterday so basically Pesto's question is the recommended advice for updating BIOS I still remember the example I used yesterday for example very simply you have 10 different BIOS versions 1 through 10 10 being the most up to date 1 being the earliest version and let's say you're at BIOS 3 and you want to update the BIOS 10 the advice is you have to go through BIOS 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 before you get to 10 but to be honest like who has the time who has the time for that and here in the shop what we usually do is we jump to the latest version kagad but if there's a problem that's when we start rolling back so we jump in the to apply to the example we would jump from 3 to 10 to see if the system is stable if it's not then that's when we start rolling back to earlier versions yes Kaiser is right so prang mabenta yung thermal paste sa shop through Lazada and Shopee actually our Noctua NTH1 thermal paste I think is the cheapest from legitimate source I think a lot of on Lazada at least a lot of the other Lazada stores are expensive price but we have kept ours a bit lower than than the average is what I recall the last time I checked thank you Ryan Kachalyan it is a lot of hard work the shop is not making money yet but you know it's a labor of love sometimes it's a labor it really is a labor of love you know how love is can be frustrating god I don't want to do this anymore but then there are days it's ecstatic na I love this build I love having access to new tech and this is really amazing so it's a whole bag really doing the shop we've been around for 5 years and this is our third shop and we keep expanding the memtest just finished and it passed good job maybe I can shut you down now I think the boys will get mad ko ano I really don't like leaving anything pumasa naman exits shutdown but there's a definite rattle in those fans so yeah we've been at it for 5 years this is our third shop every time we move shop always in Makati always getting bigger from scammers online I'm going to be posting this week about one scamer a new scammer that tried to scam us through our own website that's a pretty fun story but we met so many great enthusiasts our customers who were also equally enthusiastic about tech so it's been a very nice experience but also very tiring as well sometimes okay bang r7300x for gaming I would like to think so because the CPU I'm using now at a video card I use a 3080 some people would say it's bottleneck it probably is bottleneck but it allows me to play AAA games at decent frame rate so r7300x for the 3080, 3070 you'll be fine for 2023 AAA games that said I am thinking of upgrading to a r95950x because I'm tired of my edits being a little slow I talked about this more yesterday I did want to get to this question maliba na bumili ako ng 3070ti last year December bakit lagi bukang bibig na mata o 3060 no, I mean the 3070ti if you had the budget is a lot better than the 3060 in terms of performance last December can't remember the prices last December was it at a good price last December di ko malala but you shouldn't feel bad the 3070ti is faster definitely faster than the 3060 significantly faster than the 3060 so you shouldn't compare those two cards that was not a mistake I say this often regardless of what card if you did your research kung baga touch move na, nabili mo na then enjoy it don't worry too much is this bottleneck maliba timing ko that's buyer's regret and we're doing a video now it's going to be released next week but I already shot the ending my ending is we buy video cards about whether it's the most efficient setup whether it's the coolest in terms of thermal performance we don't buy video cards to obsess over getting the most number of FPS like a 5% increase we buy video cards to play games so once you've done your research bought your video card play your games and enjoy it there are means to an end rather than an end in themselves they really buy GPUs because they like getting a kick out of optimizing it the settings, underclocking, overclocking undervolting that's your thing well and good then the card becomes a toy in its own but for a lot of people the card is just the means by which you can play games so kung nabili mo na yung card fokus ka na sa games enjoy the games that you're playing find the proper settings rather than worrying na oh maliba timing ko dapat yung ibang model ba dapat nabili ko let it go as the song says let it go and enjoy the games usually most of the time like you have a B450 MOBO and you have 3,000 series mo mula ka ng 5,000 series CPU ay mo na dumaan doon sa ibang BIOS versions update sa latest usually it works out I was actually talking about this with the guys in the shop just now the 4060 Ti really got panned when it came out people felt that it was just so close in performance to I think it was close in performance at the 4060 then the 4070 so just a very incremental price very incremental performance increase compared to the higher price although the 16GB version at least after that which might be better value for money so usually the advice is 4070 for price to performance the 4060 Ti got creamed when it came out reviewers were not kind to the 4060 Ti they were also not kind to the 4060 but I can appreciate the 4060 to be honest and I'm not just saying that because we had a recently sponsored video from NVIDIA that focused on the 4060 the 4060 might have been overpriced but it is universally recognized as being faster than the 3060 for less money and the 4000 series with DLSS-3 the frame generation where it's like so you have two frames this frame and this frame and in the middle frame AI fills that in so the GPU doesn't need to work as hard to fill in that frame it is amazing we got to try it out with ASUS 4060 the frame rate increase was very substantial as we talked about in one of our shorts from this month so it's not the best X60 series card that NVIDIA came out but I think I'm choosing my words here that's why I let Rocky the programmer review because I didn't want to touch the 4060 it's like radioactive because it was so toxic already to the community but I can see where NVIDIA is coming from it's a little pricey but it's cheaper than the 3060 it's faster it has DLSS-3 so I feel that some of the hate for the 4060 was misplaced or is misplaced the 4060 Ti though I can't feel the same way about the 4060 Ti it's really kind of terrible at a price to performance although I did have one customer that said he needed the 4060 Ti because he was doing machine learning and the larger amount of VRAM was what sold it to him rather than performance in game so even those kinds of cards may use cases sometimes for individual customers and this customer knew what he was talking about he was doing AI learning so he was also very familiar with hardware and things like that so even cards that are not generally well accepted by the public they can't have their use cases so I find it I don't like jumping on the bandwagon oh, sobrang bulok ng graphics card na to because each card might have specific use cases na bagay naman sa customer na yun that said, I would go with a 4070 I actually also answered this yesterday ang pwede magtanong my thinking is if your budget is below 120,000 get an AM4 plat get an AM4 build you can basically I don't see any value of getting the lower end 7000 series 7600X, 7700 I feel that higher end 5000 series CPUs will be better for you in the long run first they're more stable so you don't need to worry about it plus may longevity pa yan it's a dead platform in the sense na wala ng upgrade options but the options that are there now are still very fast for a gamer, you get an R75800X3D get a 4080 that will be your gaming rig for the next 3 or 4 years easy if you have more budget 5950X 5900 although if you're a gamer R75800X3D is already the sweet spot then 4080 you can probably get something like that for 120K beyond that if your budget extends beyond that then okay fine get AM5 get a higher end AM5 you get DDR5 your well positioned to upgrade CPUs down the line and things like that so if you can afford a certain budget na medyo mahal I would go for AM5 but AM4 is still a very strong platform and again I'm just not saying that because I'm still on the AM4 platform with no plans of upgrading to AM5 but even with a new computer now I have no qualms recommending the 5600G for entry level for gaming na bago R75800X3D still super good so it's a dead platform in the sense that there aren't any new CPUs coming out for it yes but it's not dead in the sense that if you try it it can't run anything anymore that is false it can run a lot of things now darn well and even future games coming out future software it will run pretty well as well 3-4 years down the line I'm pretty confident that it will be good I would get the second hand the 3070 is a very good price yun na for me personally I always do this if I can find the part second hand I'll get it second hand save myself from money maybe even get a higher end part than I could have gotten if I had brought back new I love getting second hand so easy for me get the second hand 3070 sab ochi how are you doing I should ask you that I'm surprised you have the time to go online brand new spankin I wouldn't mention the component but it is pretty brand new and it is pretty fast I would be taking that around taking it for a spin metaphorically with some games yes enjoy it okay let me just go through the questions and I do need actually to skedaddle because we still have some family time plan for Sunday and on and on and on basically but nobody wants that okay po bang build na i513 gen rtx4060 yes get a 13600k maybe even a 13500 and then a 4060 you can probably do that 60k, 70k so a 4060 would be around 19,000-20,000 so that palang a 13500-13600 around 18 19,000 also so you probably do it with around 60k roughly just a computer not, wala pa'y monitor no no different different part still do love my pg4080 uq alright last question I currently have an r7 5800x and a 3080ti nice planning to upgrade the GPU, what GPU would you recommend and should I also change my CPU whoo it is hard kasi parang borderline the 5800x is still pretty good the 3080ti is also pretty good yes, like if you can afford to upgrade both I would like ahirap it's a really borderline case but I would there is a performance increase especially for games and I understand your gaming kasi you're interested in the GPU also the 5800x3d so you get the 3d version and then I don't know man the 3080ti is still pretty good I mean I can't remember the benchmarks I guess you'd have to get at least a 4080 to have faster I don't think the 4070 is faster than the 3080ti of course with the 4000 series you're getting a DLSS3 but just in terms of raw power I don't think a 4070 beats a 3080ti so you'd have to get at least a 4080 so that's like 805k or so 8080k 90k yeah so to change the GPU it has to be at least a 4080 I wouldn't get a 3090 just because since you're upgrading might as well get the 4000 series with DLSS3 some features that are not available on the 3000 series which are on the 4000 series and then after that if you can if gali ka sa pera and you just want to keep buying I would get a 5800x3d or better parang budget doesn't seem to be a concern I mean you could get better but the 5800x3d over the 5800x3d there's still value there you can still expect improvement in your gaming performance sa panton sa apliya magnaye if only we had world enough and time and money thanks so much for joining me for another live from the shop I do try to do these on holidays which today is not but I do plan to be streaming November 1 live from the shop so that's a holiday, I'll be here just to stream and probably shoot some stuff and we have a bunch of content coming out this week tomorrow probably a short or a game stream we owe two more dedicated videos which will focus on GPUs another actually we owe two shorts two games streams and there might be some review videos coming out as well so next week will be jam packed in terms of content because it's usual na gabul kami na nung October deliverables for the sponsor but we do try to make them quality also which is why it takes time and effort a lot of people not like a lot but some people ask yesterday bakit ano nangyari sa podcast and I just explained na I've just been so busy the past three or four weeks that I haven't been able to properly set aside the time actually I would do it on Thursday and record the podcast but I do want to get back to doing the podcast we're in transition Ren who is our main video editor will focus again on front end so I've had to take up some slack I've had to start editing more videos and we're also looking for a full time editor full time online comms guy because our current online comms guy Rosso will be moved to inventory so he'll be full time inventory so there are a lot of moving parts in the shop and also as it pertains to the youtube channel so like the past month has really been hectic that said I don't want to drop any balls it's kind of like you're juggling I don't want to we will fulfill our deliverables to the sponsor the shop is well stocked maybe get a better host apparently this current one can't even get the words out but yeah it's been it's been very hectic the past 3-4 weeks or so I'm teaching also in my alma mater again it's the second sem that I've been teaching so the subject matter is not something that I'm immediately familiar with so I do have to learn up on it so that I'm not like an idiot there kung ano nang sinasabi ko tas mali pala yeah so there's like a bunch of things like you know, daming taro-taro daming nangyari but yes, tune in next week we do have a bunch of content coming out okay sub gamer zone yeah yeah 5800X3D go for it that great CPU for gaming that's basically how that's basically the workload of our programmers now joke lang raki na programmer if you're watching the stream yun thanks so much for joining me have a great weekend what's the rest of the weekend just one more long week and then we are facing a super long holiday and I'll be back here November 1 live from the shop to share with you updates from hardware sugar see you guys